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- ♪ MTV ♪
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[rain pattering]
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[Eminem's "Stan"]
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♪ ♪
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- A lot of people ask me...
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♪
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- Why did you write
the song "Stan?"
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- Is "Stan" based
on a real fan?
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- Why do you share so much
about yourself in your music?
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- What the hell goes
on in your brain?
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- Are you happy?
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- How's your daughter?
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- Who is someone that
helped you the same way
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that you helped me?
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- Do you feel like
the impact you've had
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is what you hoped
it would be?
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- What's it like
being famous?
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- How much fan mail
do you get?
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- How does it feel to be
followed by so many people?
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- Have you read my letter?
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♪ ♪
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- Is everyone ready?
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- All right,
Marshall, take one.
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- What's your first question?
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[Eminem's "Bad Guy"]
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ Time you can see
the truth ♪
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♪ But it's easier
to justify ♪
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♪ What's bad is good ♪
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♪ And I hate to be
the bad guy ♪
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[upbeat music]
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♪ I just hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ I just hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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- ♪ And I hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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- Hi, my name is
chicka-chicka Slim--
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[laughs]
I wanted to say Zolt Shady.
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Hi, my name is
chicka-chicka-chicka
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Zolt Shady.
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- Hi, my name is Alex.
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- Hi, my name is Daniyela.
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- Hi, my name is Giovanni.
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- Hi, my name is Brooklyn.
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- Hi, my name is James.
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- Hi, my name is Kyle.
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- Hi.
"My Name Is."
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- Well, no, you--
- [laughs]
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I'm s--I thought you
mean it like the song.
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[laughs]
Hi, my name is Nikki.
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- Let me just put my cape on.
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I don't even know
what these look like on.
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[laughs]
Too much?
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[laughs]
It's called the Eminem.
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Um, it's based off--
in his music video
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"Without Me."
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Um, although I did leave
my plastic ass at home,
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but this is my costume.
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- [laughs]
This is art.
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[laughs]
This is crazy.
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Early Eminem, Slim Shady.
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This is the type of mask
that he always wore
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in every concert,
early 2000s,
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everything like that.
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- How and why does a white
T-shirt become iconic?
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- Because, uh, there's
a Slim Shady in all of us.
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When he wears that shirt,
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and when I wear
that shirt as well,
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it symbolizes unity.
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They, um, have an Eminem
subreddit, r/eminem,
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and I enjoy being there.
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It's actually, uh,
where I found my people.
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- So I follow him
on all social medias.
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Every social media
that he has, that I have,
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I will follow him on.
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- I, like,
followed him every--
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not followed him everywhere,
'cause that
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sounds weird and creepy.
[laughs]
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- You should see
what my explore page
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on Instagram looks like.
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Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies,
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Eminem, Eminem, horror movies,
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Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles.
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Stuff like that.
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- I wake up every morning,
and it is a habit.
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It's a ritualistic routine.
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I think I do have
an addiction to Eminem.
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- Occasionally, like,
I'll go into, like,
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a YouTube, like,
rabbit hole where
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I'll, like,
watch old performances
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or music videos or interviews.
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And, like, what people
could say in interviews
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25 years ago versus
what they could say now, like,
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half the shit he said
was insane.
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[hip-hop music]
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- All right, y'all.
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Back here live
on the "Rap City" thing.
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I'm looking for my man.
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My man is not--
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- Ow!
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Ow!
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[sped-up speech]
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- Yo, cut the cameras, man.
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Come on, dog.
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Come on.
Come on.
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You all right?
- Hey!
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One...
- Ladies and gentlemen--
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- And a-two, and a-three--
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- Insane.
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This guy's insane.
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
introducing Eminem.
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[imitates cheering crowd]
Y'all give it up for Eminem.
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- [imitates cheering crowd]
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- What's up, dog?
- What's up, man?
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How you doing?
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- That right there,
it brought me back so much.
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Just the energy that he
came in when he was onscreen
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was a different type
of energy.
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[dramatic music]
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- This is an artist
called Eminem.
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It's spelled funky.
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If you're going to
pronounce it,
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it's like the candy.
Eminem.
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- I'm keeping it
gangster, homie.
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I'm keeping it gangster.
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I am flexing my bum-bum.
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[laughter]
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- There was a shock factor
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when I was first
discovering Eminem.
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- Here's Eminem doing one
of the best Michael Jackson
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impersonations I've ever seen.
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- He was definitely
a loose cannon.
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- Mom!
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No, yes, you did molest me.
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- This dude, he's got
a good sense of humor,
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and he's willing to express
his art, you know,
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with no boundaries.
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- I was 10 years old
sitting at home watching MTV
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in hopes to see
the Backstreet Boys
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or NSYNC come on,
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but it was Marshall Mathers.
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Slim Shady came on
with "My Name Is,"
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and my whole life changed
after that.
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[Eminem's "My Name Is"]
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- ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is
chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪
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♪ My name is ♪
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- I was coming home
from the police academy,
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and I hear, "Hi, my name is."
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And I was like, what is this?
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And so I listened to it
all the way home.
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It's not like anything else
I've heard before.
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I'm in.
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- ♪ Chicka-chicka
Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, kids,
do you like Primus ♪
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♪ Wanna see me stick
nine-inch nails ♪
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♪ Through each one
of my eyelids ♪
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- You want to copy me
and do exactly what I did?
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Try 'cid and get fucked up
worse than my life is?
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I was like, what?
Yeah!
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Sign me up.
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I'll do it.
[laughs]
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- ♪ My brain's dead weight ♪
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♪ I'm trying to get
my head straight ♪
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♪ But I can't figure
out which Spice Girl ♪
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♪ I want to impregnate ♪
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- Most of these rappers
back then,
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they want to portray this,
I'm from the streets,
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I'm a thug, I'm this,
don't fuck with me.
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He's just being him.
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He's just having
a grand time.
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- ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is
chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪
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- Nobody was making those
type of music videos.
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Most people were like,
half-naked, dancing,
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doing, like,
these big numbers.
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And he had, like, storylines.
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- ♪ 99% of my life,
I was lied to ♪
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♪ I just found out my mom
does more dope than I do ♪
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- When he started going
at these pop culture people,
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making fun of them to the T,
I'm just like, oh, my God,
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dude, this guy really
doesn't give a fuck.
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- I was, like, hypnotized.
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Like, my eyes were, like,
glued to the screen,
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and that kickstarted
my obsession with him.
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- We be live in Times Square,
"Total Request Live,"
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with the big videos,
the most requested ones.
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How about a round
of applause for Eminem?
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- Hi.
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- Making his--
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"TRL" at the time was new.
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It was always our intent
to have it be
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an exact reflection
of our audience.
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It was like, what if we gave
one hour of this network
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to the fans?
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And let's ask them
what they want.
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Let's take their requests.
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I was a radio guy,
and we did a lot
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of, like, requests in radio.
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Who did you want to see?
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Congratulations.
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"Slim Shady" is going
to number two next week...
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- Thank you.
- On the charts.
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- Thank you.
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- That deserves a round
of applause right there.
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- With a little--little bit
of help from MTV.
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- I've seen fans.
I've seen it all.
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I've never seen anything like
Marshall, Eminem fans, ever.
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- My name is!
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- How they show up,
what they look like,
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the connection that
they have with this artist,
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it's really deep.
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- The reason why
we're here today
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is because of his
creation of "Stan."
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He created a culture that is
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so out of the boundary
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of regular pop culture
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that he made his own term.
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- Anything I can grab
on Eminem, I'll find.
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Over a thousand interviews
I've watched, rewatched.
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He was the first one where
I was like, you know what?
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I could marry this guy.
[laughs]
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- I would say that
I'm a stan.
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I know three albums
back to back lyrically,
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every single word
of--of everything.
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I remember being him for
the talent show when I was
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11 and dressing up,
white T-shirt.
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I sprayed my hair yellow.
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- When I was five my brother
exposed me to his songs,
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and I kept listening
to it over and over,
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and all my friends
were like, oh, my God.
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Like, girl,
you need to calm down.
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- I have a book, a specific
book that I made.
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When I see Eminem,
[clicks tongue]
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I put it in the book.
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- There was a point in time
where every single magazine
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cover you looked at or saw,
no matter where you were,
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Marshall was on the cover.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- For so many people
admiring you that much
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and having such a strong
reaction to you,
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it must have been, like,
a high or something.
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- And the winner is Eminem,
"My Name Is."
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- I want to thank all the fans
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that made "Slim Shady"
possible.
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- All of a sudden,
you're skyrocketed into fame,
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and it's everything
you've ever wanted,
254
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everything
you ever dreamed of.
255
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I can't even imagine that.
256
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- Has it ever felt normal
in any sense of that word?
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- Well,
none of this is normal.
258
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None of it's normal.
259
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Once the "Hi, My Name Is"
video,
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once MTV accepted that
and played it,
261
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it was like a fucking switch
went off overnight.
262
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And all of a sudden, I woke up
the next day from that,
263
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and my entire life
was changed forever.
264
00:11:07.579 --> 00:11:10.191
Um, uh, we're gonna go
to, uh, my old house,
265
00:11:10.321 --> 00:11:11.409
and I'm going to knock
on the door
266
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and see if I can get in
267
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'cause I left something
in my room.
268
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This is the house.
269
00:11:16.153 --> 00:11:17.981
See back there,
that used to be a garage.
270
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One of my longtime friends,
DeShaun Holton.
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He's a rapper too.
His name is Proof.
272
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He used to take me up
in the lunchroom at Osborn.
273
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- What's up, dog?
274
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- I used to battle, like,
a lot of kids in the school.
275
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- Proof was Eminem's
best friend.
276
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He was there
from the beginning.
277
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Proof gave him a lot
of the confidence
278
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and a lot of courage.
279
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- The illest story is
we used to do
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the "White Men Can't Jump"
thing.
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I used to go in to sneak him--
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I used to sneak him
into Osborn,
283
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and everybody would be like,
I'll battle you, man.
284
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I'll battle.
285
00:11:43.746 --> 00:11:45.748
I'm like,
you ain't can't battle me.
286
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Why don't you battle him?
287
00:11:47.532 --> 00:11:49.012
And they'd be like,
oh, the white boy?
288
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[laughs]
I'ma kill him!
289
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I'ma kill him!
290
00:11:52.668 --> 00:11:53.800
Then he'd come out
busting a rhyme--
291
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- [trilling tongue]
292
00:11:55.758 --> 00:11:56.933
- Everybody
and they friends like--
293
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- [laughs]
294
00:11:58.456 --> 00:12:00.981
- One of the reasons
I love Eminem's story
295
00:12:01.111 --> 00:12:04.680
is because he didn't set out
to become famous.
296
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He loves his art.
He loves what he does.
297
00:12:07.074 --> 00:12:08.858
- Hello, I'm Slim Shady.
298
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- I don't think
he ever could have seen
299
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where it would have gone to.
300
00:12:13.907 --> 00:12:16.170
- I cut class--
don't tell my mother--
301
00:12:16.257 --> 00:12:17.867
and...
[laughs]
302
00:12:17.954 --> 00:12:19.695
And we were sitting
in my boy's house,
303
00:12:19.826 --> 00:12:23.612
and we had MTV playing,
and my boys were just like,
304
00:12:23.743 --> 00:12:25.440
oh, just another
white rapper.
305
00:12:25.570 --> 00:12:27.311
And I was like, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
306
00:12:27.442 --> 00:12:29.879
I've never heard anybody
do it like he did it.
307
00:12:30.053 --> 00:12:31.620
And that's when I started
going down that wormhole.
308
00:12:31.751 --> 00:12:33.491
[dial-up modem beeping]
309
00:12:33.622 --> 00:12:35.102
Where did he come from?
310
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Where was his origin story?
311
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- ♪ Bus it, what? ♪
312
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♪ It's only fair to warn I was
born with a set of horns ♪
313
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♪ And metaphors attached
to my dang umbilical cord ♪
314
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♪ Warlord of rap that'll
bash you with a 2x4 board ♪
315
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♪ And smash into your Honda
Accord with a four-door Ford ♪
316
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[laughter]
317
00:12:55.122 --> 00:12:58.255
♪ Look, any rapper saying
those kind of rhymes ♪
318
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♪ In this day and age,
in this period of time ♪
319
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♪ Trying to battle Eminem
is worse than David Starr ♪
320
00:13:03.478 --> 00:13:05.785
♪ Trying to battle Proof,
Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪
321
00:13:05.872 --> 00:13:07.308
[laughter]
322
00:13:07.438 --> 00:13:09.919
- When I found out that
this is a battle rap rapper,
323
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and rapping all these
Black rappers in Detroit?
324
00:13:13.531 --> 00:13:14.968
- ♪ Look, my face is pale ♪
325
00:13:15.098 --> 00:13:16.665
♪ But you look like
you seen a ghost ♪
326
00:13:16.796 --> 00:13:18.101
- I knew this was
a matter of time
327
00:13:18.232 --> 00:13:19.799
that this guy was
going to make it.
328
00:13:19.973 --> 00:13:21.278
- I've been rhyming
a long time,
329
00:13:21.365 --> 00:13:23.324
and battle rap is everything,
330
00:13:23.454 --> 00:13:24.934
you know what I'm saying?
331
00:13:25.065 --> 00:13:30.070
It is the equivalent of being
completely vetted in hip-hop,
332
00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:31.245
you know what I'm saying?
333
00:13:31.332 --> 00:13:33.073
Because you learn
crowd control,
334
00:13:33.203 --> 00:13:35.336
those lyrical choices,
that storytelling.
335
00:13:35.466 --> 00:13:37.512
That's not stuff
that you can make up.
336
00:13:37.642 --> 00:13:39.122
You can't fake that.
337
00:13:39.253 --> 00:13:41.603
- Eminem is forged
in battle rap.
338
00:13:41.777 --> 00:13:44.258
He's what I call
a natural-born killer.
339
00:13:44.345 --> 00:13:46.173
And then he took that
to the Rap Olympics,
340
00:13:46.347 --> 00:13:50.177
where all the best rappers
battle for number one.
341
00:13:50.264 --> 00:13:51.874
- ♪ I'ma tell you this
for your own benefit ♪
342
00:13:52.005 --> 00:13:53.528
♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪
343
00:13:53.615 --> 00:13:55.182
♪ Especially when
you wrote 90% of it ♪
344
00:13:55.312 --> 00:13:59.099
The first prize was $500,
and I needed that $500, man,
345
00:13:59.186 --> 00:14:00.361
and I lost.
346
00:14:00.491 --> 00:14:02.189
I was fucking devastated.
347
00:14:02.363 --> 00:14:07.020
- For him to lose,
he was crushed.
348
00:14:07.194 --> 00:14:09.718
But an intern approached him
and said, "Hey, man,
349
00:14:09.805 --> 00:14:11.285
can I have one of your tapes?"
350
00:14:11.372 --> 00:14:13.504
And then he left to go
back home to Detroit
351
00:14:13.591 --> 00:14:16.246
to try to continue
to make music.
352
00:14:16.420 --> 00:14:19.032
- All of a sudden, we get
a call from Jimmy Iovine
353
00:14:19.162 --> 00:14:21.904
and Dre himself saying,
"We want to meet with you.
354
00:14:22.035 --> 00:14:23.514
We like your tape."
355
00:14:23.688 --> 00:14:25.690
- Dr. Dre, to me,
356
00:14:25.821 --> 00:14:28.868
is the greatest producer
of our time.
357
00:14:29.042 --> 00:14:31.653
- ♪ You never been on a ride
like this before ♪
358
00:14:31.783 --> 00:14:33.698
♪ With a producer who can rap
and control the micstro ♪
359
00:14:33.829 --> 00:14:34.961
♪ At the same time ♪
360
00:14:35.091 --> 00:14:36.876
The first time
I heard Eminem was in,
361
00:14:37.050 --> 00:14:38.878
um, Jimmy's garage,
where he used
362
00:14:38.965 --> 00:14:40.531
to have a listening section.
363
00:14:40.618 --> 00:14:42.664
And back then,
it was just cassette tapes,
364
00:14:42.838 --> 00:14:44.709
and he popped this one in,
and he said,
365
00:14:44.796 --> 00:14:46.146
"What do you think
about this?"
366
00:14:46.233 --> 00:14:47.843
And it just happened
to be Eminem's demo,
367
00:14:48.017 --> 00:14:49.845
and it had five songs on it,
and one of them
368
00:14:50.019 --> 00:14:52.804
was a song called
"I Just Don't Give a Fuck."
369
00:14:52.892 --> 00:14:54.981
- ♪ When you see me on
your block with two Glocks ♪
370
00:14:55.068 --> 00:14:56.808
♪ Screaming fuck the world
like Tupac ♪
371
00:14:56.896 --> 00:14:58.027
♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪
372
00:14:58.158 --> 00:15:00.334
- I thought it was just
fucking fascinating.
373
00:15:00.421 --> 00:15:02.771
I had no idea that
what I was listening to
374
00:15:02.902 --> 00:15:04.425
was a white guy, right?
375
00:15:04.555 --> 00:15:05.817
I had no idea.
376
00:15:05.905 --> 00:15:07.515
I just knew that
I wanted to work with him.
377
00:15:07.602 --> 00:15:09.996
- Dre was just all in.
378
00:15:10.083 --> 00:15:12.824
And when Dre likes
something that much,
379
00:15:12.955 --> 00:15:15.392
we really pay attention,
especially me.
380
00:15:15.479 --> 00:15:19.222
So I was kind of like,
OK, fly this guy out here.
381
00:15:19.353 --> 00:15:20.832
- And when you first met,
382
00:15:20.920 --> 00:15:21.964
what did you think
of each other?
383
00:15:22.095 --> 00:15:23.270
- I thought he was
Tweety Bird.
384
00:15:23.357 --> 00:15:26.099
[laughter]
385
00:15:26.229 --> 00:15:28.188
No, 'cause he had this real--
- Fuck you.
386
00:15:28.318 --> 00:15:31.931
- He had this real bright
fucking yellow sweat suit on.
387
00:15:32.061 --> 00:15:33.149
- Man, if I hear
one more thing
388
00:15:33.236 --> 00:15:35.717
about that goddamn sweat suit.
389
00:15:35.847 --> 00:15:37.588
- Why are you wearing
a yellow sash?
390
00:15:37.762 --> 00:15:38.850
- The yellow sash.
391
00:15:39.025 --> 00:15:41.810
Um, in honor of Eminem's
yellow jumpsuit
392
00:15:41.897 --> 00:15:43.855
the day he met Dre,
which I think is just
393
00:15:43.943 --> 00:15:45.553
such a magical moment
in itself.
394
00:15:45.683 --> 00:15:47.990
- But he called me a banana
when he met me,
395
00:15:48.077 --> 00:15:51.037
so it was on from there.
396
00:15:51.211 --> 00:15:53.822
- Dre has always been
pushing the edges.
397
00:15:53.909 --> 00:15:56.956
And this guy starts
on the edge,
398
00:15:57.086 --> 00:16:00.568
so it was a--it was
a marriage made somewhere.
399
00:16:00.655 --> 00:16:02.309
[laughs]
400
00:16:02.439 --> 00:16:06.226
- Without Dre, I don't know
where Eminem would be,
401
00:16:06.313 --> 00:16:09.664
and what shaped him
in his earlier life
402
00:16:09.794 --> 00:16:12.493
carries on with him even now.
403
00:16:12.623 --> 00:16:14.147
[line beeps]
404
00:16:14.277 --> 00:16:16.366
- Hey, Em, what's going on?
It's Paul.
405
00:16:16.497 --> 00:16:18.151
Uh, listen,
if you wanna talk
406
00:16:18.281 --> 00:16:20.022
to those camera crews,
go ahead,
407
00:16:20.109 --> 00:16:21.806
just don't say
a bunch of dumb shit.
408
00:16:21.893 --> 00:16:23.417
All right, call me back.
409
00:16:23.591 --> 00:16:25.680
[line clicks]
410
00:16:25.810 --> 00:16:28.030
- There's a lot of method
to this madness.
411
00:16:28.161 --> 00:16:30.772
I always keep this shit,
Entertainer's Secret.
412
00:16:30.859 --> 00:16:33.383
Shh.
Don't tell nobody.
413
00:16:33.514 --> 00:16:37.648
Um, it's, uh--actually,
Rick Rubin told me about this,
414
00:16:37.735 --> 00:16:40.303
and ever since the day
he told me about it,
415
00:16:40.434 --> 00:16:43.785
I've been using it for
the past seven years straight.
416
00:16:43.959 --> 00:16:47.006
I use it onstage.
It's fucking incredible.
417
00:16:47.136 --> 00:16:51.271
Especially, like, you know,
my voice only lasts so long,
418
00:16:51.401 --> 00:16:53.882
especially if I'm doing,
like, some, like,
419
00:16:54.056 --> 00:16:55.579
screaming shit or something.
420
00:16:55.710 --> 00:16:59.322
So like, this is the--this
is my best friend right here.
421
00:16:59.453 --> 00:17:01.498
- What's it taste like?
422
00:17:01.629 --> 00:17:03.544
- Uh, semen.
423
00:17:03.674 --> 00:17:06.329
Not that I know
how that tastes.
424
00:17:06.460 --> 00:17:11.900
But if I were to guess,
I would say semen.
425
00:17:12.031 --> 00:17:13.510
I go through pens.
426
00:17:13.597 --> 00:17:15.338
I did go through
a couple years
427
00:17:15.425 --> 00:17:18.167
where I was trying to use
red ink and blue ink,
428
00:17:18.298 --> 00:17:20.735
different colored inks
for different color ideas,
429
00:17:20.822 --> 00:17:22.911
like different ideas and shit,
but it didn't work.
430
00:17:22.998 --> 00:17:26.828
I just stuck to the black
and just stayed with it.
431
00:17:26.958 --> 00:17:29.483
Every time I write, there's
different stages of it,
432
00:17:29.570 --> 00:17:32.921
and that's one of the reasons
that I keep a book now
433
00:17:33.052 --> 00:17:34.531
and I never get
writer's block.
434
00:17:34.662 --> 00:17:37.969
♪ ♪
435
00:17:38.057 --> 00:17:40.450
I'm always able
to go back in my book
436
00:17:40.581 --> 00:17:43.758
and have unlimited ideas.
437
00:17:46.195 --> 00:17:49.459
Sometimes I just write
my rhyming words down
438
00:17:49.590 --> 00:17:52.332
and not the stuff in between,
so that it can't be
439
00:17:52.419 --> 00:17:54.986
put together
if someone finds it.
440
00:18:00.514 --> 00:18:03.560
- To see his lyric sheets,
I mean, this is--
441
00:18:03.647 --> 00:18:05.301
this is magic right here.
442
00:18:05.388 --> 00:18:08.130
If I could own
an original piece
443
00:18:08.261 --> 00:18:09.827
I would frame this
in my home,
444
00:18:09.958 --> 00:18:11.090
and I'd point it out
to any fucking people
445
00:18:11.177 --> 00:18:12.439
that walked in.
446
00:18:12.613 --> 00:18:14.267
I'd make them look at it
with me.
447
00:18:14.397 --> 00:18:16.573
I'd make them dissect it
under a microscope with me.
448
00:18:16.704 --> 00:18:19.185
I'd make them say,
"oh, yo, this song--
449
00:18:19.315 --> 00:18:20.708
this line
went into this song."
450
00:18:20.838 --> 00:18:21.839
- I'm looking at something
451
00:18:21.970 --> 00:18:23.754
that resembles
my grocery list.
452
00:18:25.147 --> 00:18:26.540
I write like this.
453
00:18:26.627 --> 00:18:27.628
My husband hates it.
454
00:18:27.758 --> 00:18:29.978
I seriously write
the same way.
455
00:18:30.109 --> 00:18:32.154
I want to pick
this man's brain.
456
00:18:32.285 --> 00:18:33.938
- Like, it's a lot of
just, like, scribbles
457
00:18:34.069 --> 00:18:34.983
and, like, thoughts.
458
00:18:35.157 --> 00:18:38.639
But wow, this is--
459
00:18:38.813 --> 00:18:40.815
yeah.
[laughs]
460
00:18:40.902 --> 00:18:42.730
There's--there's
a lot of cursing on here.
461
00:18:42.817 --> 00:18:44.253
But I think it says,
462
00:18:44.340 --> 00:18:46.734
"Fuck, I'm sick
of duckin' in public."
463
00:18:46.821 --> 00:18:50.085
[soft music]
464
00:18:50.259 --> 00:18:53.001
- When I look
at the handwritten lyrics,
465
00:18:53.088 --> 00:18:55.264
I feel like
I see a busy brain.
466
00:18:55.395 --> 00:19:00.400
♪ ♪
467
00:19:00.530 --> 00:19:04.578
Seeing how he gets
the things out of his brain
468
00:19:04.752 --> 00:19:07.842
that way definitely influenced
me to get your thoughts out
469
00:19:07.929 --> 00:19:09.017
and making sense of them.
470
00:19:09.104 --> 00:19:10.236
- You know, I have a PhD,
but it's not
471
00:19:10.366 --> 00:19:12.281
in typography or whatever.
472
00:19:12.412 --> 00:19:14.065
But it's like, it certainly
looks like someone
473
00:19:14.153 --> 00:19:18.157
who is dealing
with some intense emotion.
474
00:19:18.287 --> 00:19:20.246
It looks like it was
very scribbled down
475
00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:21.856
kind of hastily,
476
00:19:21.943 --> 00:19:24.598
and trying to spontaneously
capture something.
477
00:19:24.772 --> 00:19:27.340
♪
478
00:19:27.514 --> 00:19:30.299
- I think it was, like,
a "Rolling Stone" interview.
479
00:19:30.430 --> 00:19:32.562
They asked him
if he ever thought about
480
00:19:32.693 --> 00:19:34.521
going to a shrink,
and he said he don't need to
481
00:19:34.651 --> 00:19:37.698
'cause his music is
his therapy, and honestly,
482
00:19:37.828 --> 00:19:40.135
that's--that's the best
therapy there is.
483
00:19:40.266 --> 00:19:42.050
Like, when you have an outlet,
something that you're
484
00:19:42.224 --> 00:19:44.835
passionate about,
and you use that.
485
00:19:44.922 --> 00:19:45.836
That's the best way.
486
00:19:46.010 --> 00:19:49.536
♪
487
00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:53.496
- My childhood certainly
wasn't the greatest.
488
00:19:53.583 --> 00:19:57.239
I always took that learning
experiences from my childhood
489
00:19:57.326 --> 00:19:59.415
and life lessons
and kind of was able
490
00:19:59.502 --> 00:20:03.680
to apply them
through my music.
491
00:20:03.767 --> 00:20:06.466
- I definitely find
relatability in him
492
00:20:06.553 --> 00:20:09.773
because he's somebody
who has written
493
00:20:09.904 --> 00:20:13.342
so honestly about struggling,
and I feel like that's why
494
00:20:13.429 --> 00:20:16.215
so many people
can relate to him.
495
00:20:16.345 --> 00:20:17.694
- I had the greatest life
in the world,
496
00:20:17.825 --> 00:20:19.348
coming from
a single-parent home.
497
00:20:19.435 --> 00:20:20.784
You know, my mother
never had a job.
498
00:20:20.958 --> 00:20:22.656
I hate to say that, you know.
499
00:20:22.786 --> 00:20:25.572
But, um, it took a toll, man,
being bounced around
500
00:20:25.702 --> 00:20:27.269
from school to school to
school to school to school,
501
00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:28.705
from state to state.
502
00:20:28.836 --> 00:20:30.707
And friends come over
and you don't
503
00:20:30.794 --> 00:20:33.536
want them to see your family's
on welfare and shit,
504
00:20:33.623 --> 00:20:35.712
so you hide the cheese
and shit like that.
505
00:20:35.843 --> 00:20:37.148
You know, that's real.
506
00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:38.149
I mean, it's funny,
but it's not funny,
507
00:20:38.324 --> 00:20:39.542
you know what I mean?
508
00:20:39.716 --> 00:20:41.327
It's like I look back on it
like, damn,
509
00:20:41.414 --> 00:20:43.198
that's fucked up,
you know, but--
510
00:20:43.372 --> 00:20:46.723
- My mom and I had a pretty
unstable relationship
511
00:20:46.810 --> 00:20:49.552
growing up, and there was
a lot of struggles
512
00:20:49.683 --> 00:20:52.729
with finances 'cause
it was just the two of us.
513
00:20:52.816 --> 00:20:55.341
I also came out
as a transgender man,
514
00:20:55.428 --> 00:20:57.386
and transness,
or even queerness,
515
00:20:57.473 --> 00:21:01.608
was not a conversation
in the area I grew up in.
516
00:21:01.738 --> 00:21:06.177
Being born female, it was
a very isolating, like,
517
00:21:06.352 --> 00:21:10.312
feeling to not really
know anyone else
518
00:21:10.399 --> 00:21:12.009
who I could relate to.
519
00:21:12.140 --> 00:21:17.624
His struggles with bullying
also lined up with mine.
520
00:21:17.798 --> 00:21:20.191
There was a lot of moments
where I didn't make--
521
00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:24.283
like, I wasn't sure if I would
make it out on the other side.
522
00:21:24.370 --> 00:21:27.111
- Eminem was
bullied relentlessly
523
00:21:27.198 --> 00:21:29.113
in elementary school.
524
00:21:29.244 --> 00:21:32.726
And it's horribly tragic
to me because even now
525
00:21:32.813 --> 00:21:34.336
I carry some of the traumas
526
00:21:34.467 --> 00:21:38.732
of my own life
from being bullied,
527
00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:41.822
and I can feel that in some
of the music he's written.
528
00:21:41.952 --> 00:21:43.824
- So in the song
"Brain Damage,"
529
00:21:43.998 --> 00:21:48.045
Eminem or Marshall is
getting bullied at school.
530
00:21:48.176 --> 00:21:50.961
[Eminem's "Brain Damage"]
531
00:21:51.135 --> 00:21:58.229
♪
532
00:22:09.545 --> 00:22:11.808
- You know, bleeding
on the carpet
533
00:22:11.895 --> 00:22:15.029
and then having your parent
being like, look at you,
534
00:22:15.116 --> 00:22:16.770
you're getting blood
all over my rugs--
535
00:22:16.900 --> 00:22:19.033
I felt that.
536
00:22:19.120 --> 00:22:21.165
Growing up, I would
get into fights.
537
00:22:21.296 --> 00:22:24.255
I'd get into fights
a good amount.
538
00:22:24.343 --> 00:22:27.346
I'd get bullied
from other kids
539
00:22:27.476 --> 00:22:30.174
calling me a faggot
for wearing tight pants
540
00:22:30.305 --> 00:22:32.568
because I was a skater kid.
541
00:22:32.699 --> 00:22:34.614
Going into my room,
and then putting on
542
00:22:34.744 --> 00:22:38.661
a song like "Brain Damage,"
that's what helped me.
543
00:22:38.792 --> 00:22:40.359
- It was sophomore year,
and I went to go
544
00:22:40.533 --> 00:22:42.448
to a Super Bowl party
with my friends.
545
00:22:42.578 --> 00:22:44.101
We were watching
the Super Bowl,
546
00:22:44.232 --> 00:22:45.233
and I had my hands
in my head--
547
00:22:45.320 --> 00:22:47.322
my head in my hands like this,
548
00:22:47.453 --> 00:22:49.846
sitting on the ground with
my stomach on the ground,
549
00:22:49.977 --> 00:22:51.674
looking up at the TV.
550
00:22:51.761 --> 00:22:55.374
And a kid on the couch
spilled his iced tea
551
00:22:55.548 --> 00:22:58.289
and went, "Oh, I know what I
can use to pick that up with,"
552
00:22:58.464 --> 00:23:00.117
and grabbed his other friend.
553
00:23:00.291 --> 00:23:01.902
They picked me up by my feet
and used my hair as a mop
554
00:23:02.076 --> 00:23:06.167
and then threw me
on the ground, and I was--
555
00:23:06.297 --> 00:23:10.084
these were supposed
to be my friends.
556
00:23:10.214 --> 00:23:13.566
It made me sometimes not
want to go to school,
557
00:23:13.696 --> 00:23:17.657
but I went because
I had Marshall's music.
558
00:23:17.831 --> 00:23:19.528
[bell rings]
559
00:23:19.659 --> 00:23:21.312
I would put my CD player on
560
00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.533
and just walk
through the hallways.
561
00:23:24.664 --> 00:23:26.666
He inspired me to write.
562
00:23:26.753 --> 00:23:28.885
I write poetry.
563
00:23:29.059 --> 00:23:32.933
I loved how he could just
bend the English language,
564
00:23:33.020 --> 00:23:35.544
use different words
to rhyme off other words
565
00:23:35.675 --> 00:23:37.981
that necessarily
wouldn't rhyme,
566
00:23:38.155 --> 00:23:41.332
like orange,
door hinge, syringe.
567
00:23:41.463 --> 00:23:45.424
That's great.
[laughs]
568
00:23:45.554 --> 00:23:50.429
His music made me feel like
I wasn't alone in this world,
569
00:23:50.603 --> 00:23:52.343
with what I was
going through.
570
00:23:52.474 --> 00:23:54.433
[somber music]
571
00:23:54.563 --> 00:23:56.347
- Hip-hop was
the most important thing
572
00:23:56.435 --> 00:23:58.393
that empowered me as a kid.
573
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.787
It made me feel tough
when I wasn't.
574
00:24:00.917 --> 00:24:04.007
I was a scrawny little kid
growing up on 8 Mile,
575
00:24:04.138 --> 00:24:07.184
walking up the fucking block,
put headphones on,
576
00:24:07.271 --> 00:24:10.623
and it made me feel powerful.
577
00:24:10.710 --> 00:24:13.495
Hip-hop, it taught me how
to throw my first punch,
578
00:24:13.669 --> 00:24:16.019
gave me the confidence.
It was like my dad.
579
00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:18.413
And it was the only thing
that made me empowered.
580
00:24:18.544 --> 00:24:19.980
It made me feel good
about myself.
581
00:24:20.067 --> 00:24:21.590
And when I started being able
to write rhymes
582
00:24:21.721 --> 00:24:23.636
and figured out
I could do it,
583
00:24:23.810 --> 00:24:27.901
that's where
the feeling comes from.
584
00:24:28.031 --> 00:24:31.252
- As a teenager, I definitely
had a lot of anger.
585
00:24:31.382 --> 00:24:34.298
I haven't met my father in
person since I was probably,
586
00:24:34.385 --> 00:24:37.737
like, one or two or something.
587
00:24:37.911 --> 00:24:39.826
But I never had anybody
that I could relate to
588
00:24:39.956 --> 00:24:43.003
in that regard growing up.
589
00:24:43.090 --> 00:24:44.526
Whenever he would talk
about his father too,
590
00:24:44.613 --> 00:24:46.615
he always sounded so angry.
591
00:24:46.789 --> 00:24:49.444
So I always gravitated
more towards
592
00:24:49.575 --> 00:24:51.533
the angrier-sounding Eminem,
593
00:24:51.620 --> 00:24:54.231
and Slim Shady was
his alter ego
594
00:24:54.318 --> 00:24:55.711
and split personality
for that.
595
00:24:55.885 --> 00:24:58.540
- Eminem, Slim Shady,
Marshall Mathers.
596
00:24:58.671 --> 00:25:00.673
Could you briefly tell us
where one stops,
597
00:25:00.803 --> 00:25:02.065
the other one begins,
and the difference
598
00:25:02.239 --> 00:25:03.893
between the three
different characters?
599
00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:07.157
- Marshall Mathers stops
when the Bacardi kicks in,
600
00:25:07.288 --> 00:25:09.029
and then it's Slim Shady.
601
00:25:09.159 --> 00:25:11.118
- Marshall is
the human being where
602
00:25:11.248 --> 00:25:15.905
the heart and the human
experience come from.
603
00:25:16.036 --> 00:25:19.561
Eminem is the artist
through which Slim Shady
604
00:25:19.648 --> 00:25:21.389
and Marshall are channeled.
605
00:25:21.520 --> 00:25:23.478
That's where you see
the skill and the talent.
606
00:25:23.565 --> 00:25:27.134
And then Slim Shady is
this cartoon character.
607
00:25:27.308 --> 00:25:30.311
- Slim is, uh,
the jokester, the hey,
608
00:25:30.441 --> 00:25:31.921
I'm here for a good time.
609
00:25:32.095 --> 00:25:34.054
- A crazy son of a bitch...
610
00:25:34.141 --> 00:25:37.057
[laughs]
Um, that I love.
611
00:25:37.144 --> 00:25:40.103
- He has, like, this
I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude.
612
00:25:40.234 --> 00:25:42.497
- He's like a psycho,
but in a good way.
613
00:25:42.584 --> 00:25:45.021
Uh, says whatever
the fuck he wants to say.
614
00:25:45.195 --> 00:25:48.068
He'll probably kill if you
look at him the wrong way.
615
00:25:48.155 --> 00:25:49.199
- I'm putting the mask on.
616
00:25:49.330 --> 00:25:51.071
I'm like, I can be me.
617
00:25:51.158 --> 00:25:52.333
I can say what I want.
618
00:25:52.463 --> 00:25:54.509
I can flip a fucking desk
if I needed to.
619
00:25:54.683 --> 00:25:56.424
Even though he was
just being himself,
620
00:25:56.511 --> 00:25:57.730
people didn't like that.
621
00:25:57.904 --> 00:25:59.775
People did not
like that at all.
622
00:25:59.906 --> 00:26:00.646
- I mean,
let's just say the least,
623
00:26:00.776 --> 00:26:02.386
it was a trying time.
624
00:26:02.517 --> 00:26:06.129
We were criticized enormously
for putting his music out.
625
00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:09.698
- That controversy was covered
extensively by the media.
626
00:26:09.785 --> 00:26:11.047
- While Black rappers
often get a pass
627
00:26:11.134 --> 00:26:12.396
on lyrical nihilism,
628
00:26:12.527 --> 00:26:14.311
Eminem, who's white,
has been taking
629
00:26:14.398 --> 00:26:17.358
some intense critical heat for
his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes.
630
00:26:17.532 --> 00:26:19.316
- In Eminem's songs,
women are portrayed
631
00:26:19.403 --> 00:26:22.102
as little more
than strippers,
632
00:26:22.232 --> 00:26:24.974
punching bags,
and sperm receptacles.
633
00:26:25.148 --> 00:26:26.976
- It's so sad to see
those parents dropping
634
00:26:27.107 --> 00:26:28.761
their children off
and saying,
635
00:26:28.891 --> 00:26:30.371
I don't know what
the lyrics are all about.
636
00:26:30.501 --> 00:26:33.113
[Vivaldi's
"The Four Seasons, 'Spring'"
637
00:26:33.243 --> 00:26:37.900
♪ ♪
638
00:26:37.987 --> 00:26:39.946
- Perhaps one
of the most interesting words
639
00:26:40.120 --> 00:26:43.950
in the English language today
is the word "fuck."
640
00:26:44.124 --> 00:26:45.342
Out of all
of the English words
641
00:26:45.429 --> 00:26:47.606
that begin with the letter F,
642
00:26:47.736 --> 00:26:50.913
"fuck" is the only word that
is referred to as the F-word.
643
00:26:51.044 --> 00:26:55.309
It's the one magical word,
just by its sound,
644
00:26:55.396 --> 00:26:59.269
can describe pain, pleasure,
hate, and love.
645
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.360
In English, fuck falls into
many grammatical categories.
646
00:27:03.491 --> 00:27:05.711
As a transitive verb,
for instance:
647
00:27:05.798 --> 00:27:07.713
"John fucked Shirley."
648
00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:09.758
As an intransitive verb:
649
00:27:09.932 --> 00:27:11.586
"Shirley fucks."
650
00:27:11.673 --> 00:27:13.022
It can be used
as an adjective,
651
00:27:13.153 --> 00:27:16.330
such as, "John's doing
all the fucking work."
652
00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:18.332
As part of an adverb:
653
00:27:18.419 --> 00:27:20.726
"Shirley talks
too fucking much."
654
00:27:20.856 --> 00:27:22.423
As a noun:
655
00:27:22.553 --> 00:27:24.381
"I don't give a fuck."
656
00:27:24.468 --> 00:27:26.993
With all of these
multipurpose applications,
657
00:27:27.080 --> 00:27:30.083
how can anyone be offended
when you use the word?
658
00:27:30.213 --> 00:27:33.173
Say it loudly and proudly.
659
00:27:33.303 --> 00:27:37.003
Fuck you!
660
00:27:37.133 --> 00:27:38.569
- You rap about raping
and killing women,
661
00:27:38.657 --> 00:27:39.832
but you really don't do that,
do you, Eminem?
662
00:27:39.962 --> 00:27:41.137
- Yes.
- You do rape and kill women?
663
00:27:41.268 --> 00:27:42.443
- Yes.
664
00:27:42.573 --> 00:27:43.966
- Uh, are you amazed
at the, uh,
665
00:27:44.053 --> 00:27:45.576
the firestorm that has begun,
and are you afraid
666
00:27:45.707 --> 00:27:47.274
it could be
a career-destroyer?
667
00:27:47.404 --> 00:27:49.232
- Um, I'm not worried
about it because anybody
668
00:27:49.363 --> 00:27:50.756
with half a brain is
going to be able to tell
669
00:27:50.843 --> 00:27:52.932
when I'm joking
and when I'm serious.
670
00:27:53.106 --> 00:27:54.890
With the first album,
"The Slim Shady LP,"
671
00:27:55.021 --> 00:27:57.240
all of a sudden,
now it's important.
672
00:27:57.371 --> 00:28:00.069
What I have to say
is important.
673
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.857
I remember one of the first
times signing autographs,
674
00:28:04.944 --> 00:28:06.946
there'd be, like,
a line out the door,
675
00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:10.123
and somebody would be like,
yo, I just want you to know,
676
00:28:10.253 --> 00:28:12.952
man, you helped me so much
for--for this or for that.
677
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:14.388
So now I'm like...
678
00:28:14.475 --> 00:28:15.737
What's your name?
679
00:28:15.868 --> 00:28:17.521
Writing a long paragraph
for them and shit,
680
00:28:17.652 --> 00:28:19.523
and signing their name,
and people are like, yo,
681
00:28:19.654 --> 00:28:20.916
can you speed it up
a little bit?
682
00:28:21.047 --> 00:28:21.743
'Cause we're not going
to get to everybody.
683
00:28:21.830 --> 00:28:22.788
Hello.
- Can I have a hug?
684
00:28:22.875 --> 00:28:24.267
- How you doing?
685
00:28:24.398 --> 00:28:26.617
I was living inside it
when it was all new to me
686
00:28:26.705 --> 00:28:28.707
and I still didn't
understand it.
687
00:28:28.837 --> 00:28:31.492
- You know, this guy
has been somebody
688
00:28:31.622 --> 00:28:33.712
that I've been trying to meet
for a long time,
689
00:28:33.842 --> 00:28:37.803
and he's not easy
to get close to.
690
00:28:37.890 --> 00:28:41.328
Since I was 14,
I had this fandom in me
691
00:28:41.502 --> 00:28:43.156
that I wanted
to, like, express,
692
00:28:43.286 --> 00:28:44.810
and I just didn't
know how to.
693
00:28:47.508 --> 00:28:50.685
I remember the first
portrait tattoo that I got,
694
00:28:50.859 --> 00:28:54.297
being really anxious
about the pain.
695
00:28:54.471 --> 00:28:59.825
It's like a scratch,
quite a sharp scratch,
696
00:28:59.912 --> 00:29:01.914
and it depends kind of
697
00:29:02.001 --> 00:29:03.219
what it is that
you're having done.
698
00:29:03.306 --> 00:29:05.787
Like, the lines are
the worst because it's
699
00:29:05.961 --> 00:29:08.007
being dragged
against your skin.
700
00:29:08.094 --> 00:29:10.270
But I fell in love
with the process
701
00:29:10.357 --> 00:29:12.751
of tattooing that day.
702
00:29:12.881 --> 00:29:15.971
I've kind of described it as,
I walked in one person
703
00:29:16.102 --> 00:29:19.540
and left a different person.
704
00:29:19.714 --> 00:29:22.978
And then it kind
of snowballed after that.
705
00:29:23.109 --> 00:29:25.546
In 2020, I set
the Guinness World Record
706
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.332
for having the most tattoos
of the same musician.
707
00:29:29.463 --> 00:29:32.596
It has become my identity.
708
00:29:32.771 --> 00:29:36.122
Now that I've got the ink,
I feel like
709
00:29:36.296 --> 00:29:38.689
I've got to have
a possibility of meeting him.
710
00:29:38.820 --> 00:29:40.822
[flashbulbs bursting]
711
00:29:40.996 --> 00:29:42.345
- The first time
I met Marshall was
712
00:29:42.476 --> 00:29:44.086
for the "Rolling Stone"
cover.
713
00:29:44.217 --> 00:29:47.263
I was just shown into,
like, a conference room,
714
00:29:47.350 --> 00:29:49.091
and no one else was in there.
715
00:29:49.222 --> 00:29:51.224
And I sort of asked
the security guy to let me in.
716
00:29:51.354 --> 00:29:52.921
Like, just, hey,
is Marshall around?
717
00:29:53.052 --> 00:29:54.836
I just want to say hi,
and all that stuff.
718
00:29:55.010 --> 00:29:56.664
So he pointed to a door
that I didn't
719
00:29:56.751 --> 00:29:58.971
realize was the bathroom.
720
00:29:59.058 --> 00:30:02.713
And, uh, and I opened it up,
and I heard him puking.
721
00:30:02.844 --> 00:30:03.932
[toilet flushes]
722
00:30:04.063 --> 00:30:05.542
He came out of the stall.
723
00:30:05.673 --> 00:30:07.109
I was like, uh, hi, Marshall,
724
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.328
it's really nice to meet you.
725
00:30:08.415 --> 00:30:09.546
Put my hand out.
726
00:30:09.633 --> 00:30:10.417
I'm Anthony
from "Rolling Stone,"
727
00:30:10.504 --> 00:30:12.811
like, super dork.
728
00:30:12.941 --> 00:30:14.725
And he just looked at me
and, like, burped...
729
00:30:14.856 --> 00:30:15.901
[belching sound effect]
730
00:30:15.988 --> 00:30:17.163
And, like, walked out.
731
00:30:17.337 --> 00:30:20.209
[hip-hop music]
732
00:30:20.296 --> 00:30:23.343
One of the three venues we
went to that first night was,
733
00:30:23.430 --> 00:30:25.998
like, a 16-year-old's
birthday party.
734
00:30:26.172 --> 00:30:28.174
You know, it was
basically Beatlemania.
735
00:30:28.304 --> 00:30:31.394
They were grabbing at him,
pulling at his shirt.
736
00:30:31.525 --> 00:30:33.570
The police were there
to, like, make sure
737
00:30:33.701 --> 00:30:35.224
that the limo got in and out.
738
00:30:35.398 --> 00:30:36.791
There were girls, like,
putting their boobs
739
00:30:36.965 --> 00:30:38.532
on the glass of the car.
740
00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:40.534
I remember him saying,
like, you're pretty cute.
741
00:30:40.621 --> 00:30:43.842
I love you too,
but I'm not going to jail.
742
00:30:44.016 --> 00:30:46.235
The night went from,
you know, then until
743
00:30:46.366 --> 00:30:47.976
about 4:00 or 5:00
in the morning.
744
00:30:48.107 --> 00:30:49.238
And for the whole time,
745
00:30:49.412 --> 00:30:50.849
he didn't speak
a word to me at all.
746
00:30:50.979 --> 00:30:53.242
♪ ♪
747
00:30:53.373 --> 00:30:57.029
- So I've got my little
circle of family and friends,
748
00:30:57.159 --> 00:30:59.031
people that I've basically
grown up with,
749
00:30:59.118 --> 00:31:00.380
because I feel like,
at this point,
750
00:31:00.467 --> 00:31:03.078
anybody that I meet after
this only knows me
751
00:31:03.209 --> 00:31:06.560
for Eminem or Slim Shady
and doesn't know Marshall.
752
00:31:06.647 --> 00:31:08.605
So that's why I keep
those friends around,
753
00:31:08.736 --> 00:31:10.259
'cause I know that
those are the people that
754
00:31:10.433 --> 00:31:13.001
really care about me for me.
755
00:31:13.088 --> 00:31:15.134
- I think it was
a defense against, like,
756
00:31:15.221 --> 00:31:17.658
the attention, the fame.
Just survival.
757
00:31:17.788 --> 00:31:19.007
Just trying to, like,
take it in
758
00:31:19.138 --> 00:31:20.530
and figure out what
the hell's happening,
759
00:31:20.661 --> 00:31:21.880
'cause it happened so fast.
760
00:31:22.010 --> 00:31:24.404
[plane whooshing]
761
00:31:24.534 --> 00:31:26.014
♪ ♪
762
00:31:26.188 --> 00:31:27.886
- So you show it to Eminem?
- Oh, yeah.
763
00:31:28.016 --> 00:31:28.930
- Yeah?
- Yes.
764
00:31:29.017 --> 00:31:30.366
- Hello, Eminem.
[laughter]
765
00:31:30.453 --> 00:31:33.804
[cheering]
766
00:31:33.935 --> 00:31:35.284
[chainsaw buzzing]
767
00:31:35.458 --> 00:31:38.287
- It's really an eye-opener
to see how crazy
768
00:31:38.418 --> 00:31:40.115
some people do get
for Eminem.
769
00:31:40.246 --> 00:31:42.596
I travel the world for him.
770
00:31:42.726 --> 00:31:44.598
[cheering]
771
00:31:44.728 --> 00:31:46.252
- Nobody here.
772
00:31:46.382 --> 00:31:47.862
Just me and the camera.
773
00:31:47.993 --> 00:31:49.690
- Oh, no.
774
00:31:49.820 --> 00:31:52.911
- Well, one of these have
to be the jet for the day.
775
00:31:53.041 --> 00:31:54.695
Want that one?
Or even that one.
776
00:31:54.869 --> 00:31:56.871
- Paul's telling me to put on
my fucking seat belt,
777
00:31:56.958 --> 00:31:59.439
like if the plane crashes,
it's gonna help.
778
00:31:59.526 --> 00:32:03.443
- I've seen Eminem in concert
about 30-something times.
779
00:32:03.530 --> 00:32:05.314
15 different cities
780
00:32:05.445 --> 00:32:07.360
in six, seven
different countries.
781
00:32:07.447 --> 00:32:09.101
- I'm a parrot.
782
00:32:09.231 --> 00:32:11.625
I'm an embarrassed parrot
in Paris.
783
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.148
- Oh, Eminem!
- Eminem!
784
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.063
- Eminem!
785
00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:18.284
- I made this costume
because I wanted to wear
786
00:32:18.414 --> 00:32:21.983
something very eye-catching.
787
00:32:22.114 --> 00:32:24.638
They actually put me
on camera
788
00:32:24.768 --> 00:32:26.292
throughout the stadium,
789
00:32:26.422 --> 00:32:28.598
and some random man
put me on his shoulders
790
00:32:28.729 --> 00:32:30.905
to, like, showcase it.
791
00:32:30.992 --> 00:32:33.603
I was hoping, of course,
he's gonna see my costume,
792
00:32:33.734 --> 00:32:35.083
and he's gonna think
it's so cool,
793
00:32:35.214 --> 00:32:37.259
and he's gonna invite me
on stage and meet me.
794
00:32:37.390 --> 00:32:39.087
- I was asking Paul today,
I was like, uh,
795
00:32:39.218 --> 00:32:40.654
why do people want
to talk to me?
796
00:32:40.741 --> 00:32:42.786
And he was like,
you rap well,
797
00:32:42.961 --> 00:32:44.701
you say a lot
of personal shit,
798
00:32:44.788 --> 00:32:45.920
and your music
and your life is like
799
00:32:46.051 --> 00:32:48.488
the fucking
"Jerry Springer Show."
800
00:32:48.618 --> 00:32:49.793
- "I didn't really start
doing drugs
801
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.534
"until I rapped about them.
802
00:32:51.665 --> 00:32:53.710
"When I was on tour
rapping about Vicodin
803
00:32:53.797 --> 00:32:55.277
"or mushrooms or ecstasy,
804
00:32:55.364 --> 00:32:57.236
people started throwing
that shit my way."
805
00:32:57.323 --> 00:32:58.498
- "I couldn't believe
the effect
806
00:32:58.585 --> 00:33:00.152
"my lyrics had on people.
807
00:33:00.282 --> 00:33:02.067
They thought we were
literally drug addicts..."
808
00:33:02.197 --> 00:33:03.590
- "And that they could
get backstage
809
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:04.678
"and bring us substances.
810
00:33:04.808 --> 00:33:06.027
"It was wild.
811
00:33:06.114 --> 00:33:07.942
Welcome to rock and roll."
812
00:33:08.073 --> 00:33:11.119
[cheering, chanting]
813
00:33:12.773 --> 00:33:14.296
- Yo, they were so loud,
we couldn't rap
814
00:33:14.427 --> 00:33:15.776
for, like, 10 minutes.
815
00:33:15.906 --> 00:33:16.907
- Just seeing, like,
how he was living
816
00:33:17.038 --> 00:33:18.474
and the breakneck pace,
817
00:33:18.561 --> 00:33:21.173
instant stardom,
instant fandom,
818
00:33:21.260 --> 00:33:22.348
and people starting
to get obsessed.
819
00:33:22.478 --> 00:33:24.611
- What the fuck?
820
00:33:24.785 --> 00:33:25.960
- I was just rooting
for him to, like--
821
00:33:26.047 --> 00:33:27.048
to hang on
for the rocket ride.
822
00:33:27.135 --> 00:33:28.658
- England, we're out of here.
823
00:33:28.745 --> 00:33:30.356
We love you.
Thank you.
824
00:33:30.530 --> 00:33:32.053
Peace.
825
00:33:35.013 --> 00:33:37.145
- Were you prepared
for how much the fans
826
00:33:37.276 --> 00:33:39.017
would connect with you?
827
00:33:39.191 --> 00:33:44.370
- What I put out was
very much, um,
828
00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:47.851
raw and, like, just real,
829
00:33:48.026 --> 00:33:51.638
as far as situations
in my life and how I came up
830
00:33:51.725 --> 00:33:52.987
and shit like that.
831
00:33:53.118 --> 00:33:56.338
And I think that
that's maybe one
832
00:33:56.425 --> 00:34:00.821
of the things that
made some people
833
00:34:00.995 --> 00:34:02.475
feel like they could relate.
834
00:34:02.605 --> 00:34:06.044
It was a weird, strange
kind of adjustment,
835
00:34:06.174 --> 00:34:10.570
and my personality wasn't
well-equipped to handle that.
836
00:34:10.700 --> 00:34:11.527
[pulsating music]
837
00:34:11.658 --> 00:34:13.007
- "FANatic."
838
00:34:13.181 --> 00:34:14.748
- I've never gotten
into any music
839
00:34:14.835 --> 00:34:16.619
like I've gotten
into Eminem's lyrics.
840
00:34:16.706 --> 00:34:20.232
Like, once I started listening
to him, I couldn't stop.
841
00:34:20.362 --> 00:34:22.364
We are at the restaurant
that Eminem worked at
842
00:34:22.451 --> 00:34:24.018
before he made it big.
843
00:34:24.149 --> 00:34:26.107
- Around the time Marshall's
really starting to blow up,
844
00:34:26.194 --> 00:34:27.848
there's a million channels.
845
00:34:28.022 --> 00:34:29.328
You know, the Internet
starts picking up.
846
00:34:29.502 --> 00:34:31.286
- This is where Eminem
spent most of his time.
847
00:34:31.417 --> 00:34:32.635
- [gasps] This is
the phone Eminem touched.
848
00:34:32.809 --> 00:34:35.899
- Content is just at
its infancy of becoming king.
849
00:34:36.030 --> 00:34:38.163
From a media standpoint,
you are really
850
00:34:38.293 --> 00:34:40.339
now into the minutia
of what it takes
851
00:34:40.469 --> 00:34:42.123
to hold on to an audience.
852
00:34:42.254 --> 00:34:44.125
And what that came down to
for us, really,
853
00:34:44.299 --> 00:34:47.128
was like, the fan experience,
we gotta go even more.
854
00:34:47.302 --> 00:34:48.608
- What was your best
subject in school?
855
00:34:48.782 --> 00:34:50.436
- Oh, my God, none.
856
00:34:50.566 --> 00:34:52.264
Maybe English.
I was all right at English.
857
00:34:52.394 --> 00:34:53.569
Everything else
I was horrible at.
858
00:34:53.700 --> 00:34:55.354
I was the worst.
859
00:34:55.441 --> 00:34:57.747
- Fans just had such
an insatiable appetite
860
00:34:57.834 --> 00:34:59.271
for more and more access
861
00:34:59.445 --> 00:35:00.794
to the artists
that they loved.
862
00:35:00.881 --> 00:35:02.448
I mean, now you're really
opening the floodgates
863
00:35:02.578 --> 00:35:03.840
for people who see that
864
00:35:03.927 --> 00:35:05.146
to live vicariously
through that moment
865
00:35:05.277 --> 00:35:06.930
and go, "Well,
that's all it takes.
866
00:35:07.105 --> 00:35:08.889
"I'm just going to jump
on a plane to Detroit
867
00:35:09.063 --> 00:35:11.109
"and go find 8 Mile
and walk around,
868
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:13.154
"and I can just have
the experience
869
00:35:13.285 --> 00:35:14.199
that they just showed me."
870
00:35:14.286 --> 00:35:16.244
- I was in my early 20s
871
00:35:16.375 --> 00:35:18.464
when I started working
at Gilbert's.
872
00:35:18.638 --> 00:35:20.640
And I knew Eminem worked
there, obviously,
873
00:35:20.727 --> 00:35:23.773
so I was like, fuck it, I'll
go work where Eminem worked.
874
00:35:23.904 --> 00:35:25.471
Like, I always wanted to,
875
00:35:25.645 --> 00:35:28.213
so one more thing
closer to Eminem.
876
00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:30.737
And I stayed
at that bitch for--
877
00:35:30.867 --> 00:35:32.391
for, like, 10 years,
878
00:35:32.478 --> 00:35:34.219
'cause I'm like,
he's going to come in.
879
00:35:35.872 --> 00:35:37.091
- That's crazy.
880
00:35:37.178 --> 00:35:39.093
The whole neighborhood's
gone now.
881
00:35:39.180 --> 00:35:42.488
Me and Proof used to climb
this tree all the time.
882
00:35:42.618 --> 00:35:44.664
And we would sit
up in the tree,
883
00:35:44.794 --> 00:35:46.056
and he would always climb
higher than me
884
00:35:46.231 --> 00:35:47.449
'cause he wasn't
afraid of heights.
885
00:35:47.536 --> 00:35:48.668
I was.
886
00:35:48.755 --> 00:35:51.410
Um, and we would
just sit there
887
00:35:51.584 --> 00:35:53.803
and talk about, like,
what we was going to do
888
00:35:53.934 --> 00:35:55.675
once we made it as rappers.
889
00:35:55.762 --> 00:35:58.068
[dog barking]
890
00:35:58.156 --> 00:36:01.071
We shot here when
the house had been condemned,
891
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:02.682
but it wasn't burnt down yet.
892
00:36:02.812 --> 00:36:04.727
And, like, I don't know
if you've ever
893
00:36:04.858 --> 00:36:07.730
been to, like, a house,
go back when you were a kid--
894
00:36:07.861 --> 00:36:10.342
everything seems smaller.
895
00:36:10.516 --> 00:36:13.127
Bro, that motherfucker
was like, here to here,
896
00:36:13.214 --> 00:36:14.868
you could touch
the living room walls.
897
00:36:14.955 --> 00:36:16.522
We tried to buy it,
and the city
898
00:36:16.652 --> 00:36:17.914
had already condemned it.
899
00:36:18.045 --> 00:36:21.962
So they wouldn't
sell it to us.
900
00:36:22.092 --> 00:36:24.051
- Did it ever occur to you
that fans would
901
00:36:24.138 --> 00:36:26.662
come here and make
a pilgrimage?
902
00:36:26.749 --> 00:36:29.012
- It's cool that people care,
903
00:36:29.187 --> 00:36:34.235
but it's also weird,
still, 'cause you're like,
904
00:36:34.322 --> 00:36:36.150
but it's me,
you know what I'm saying?
905
00:36:36.281 --> 00:36:38.370
Like, why?
906
00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:41.068
It's really not
that big of a deal.
907
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.331
- When Em was blowing up,
908
00:36:43.462 --> 00:36:46.552
there was lots of kids
with white T-shirts
909
00:36:46.682 --> 00:36:48.206
and bleach blonde hair.
910
00:36:48.336 --> 00:36:50.599
But again, this might be
by Em's own doing.
911
00:36:50.686 --> 00:36:53.733
I mean, the videos,
the imagery that he put out,
912
00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:57.693
it's this million-white-boy
army behind me, you know?
913
00:36:57.867 --> 00:36:59.217
Like, I am you.
914
00:36:59.347 --> 00:37:00.305
[Eminem's
"The Real Slim Shady"]
915
00:37:00.392 --> 00:37:03.612
- ♪ May I have
your attention, please ♪
916
00:37:03.743 --> 00:37:07.486
♪ Will the real Slim Shady
please stand up ♪
917
00:37:07.616 --> 00:37:11.141
♪ I repeat, will the real
Slim Shady please stand up ♪
918
00:37:11.272 --> 00:37:13.622
♪ ♪
919
00:37:13.709 --> 00:37:17.931
- I was at the MTV Awards
when Marshall came out
920
00:37:18.018 --> 00:37:19.628
and that gang
of fucking dudes
921
00:37:19.759 --> 00:37:21.500
followed him up on stage.
922
00:37:21.630 --> 00:37:23.458
Everyone around me
kind of fucking locked in,
923
00:37:23.589 --> 00:37:24.894
like, what is--
what's going on right now?
924
00:37:25.025 --> 00:37:26.156
Who the fuck is that guy?
925
00:37:26.244 --> 00:37:28.594
It was hands-down like, yeah.
926
00:37:28.724 --> 00:37:30.900
Like, that dude right there,
he's--he's--
927
00:37:31.031 --> 00:37:33.599
he's fucking--
he's cooler than me.
928
00:37:33.773 --> 00:37:35.383
- When Eminem came
on the scene
929
00:37:35.514 --> 00:37:38.081
and when they seen
the bleach blonde hair,
930
00:37:38.212 --> 00:37:40.562
it kind of infected
the whole world.
931
00:37:40.693 --> 00:37:43.304
- So many kids were dyeing
their hair yellow,
932
00:37:43.435 --> 00:37:44.958
dressing in, you know,
baggy clothes.
933
00:37:45.088 --> 00:37:46.699
And I saw it.
934
00:37:46.829 --> 00:37:48.614
So, you know, I had guy
friends that were like, oh,
935
00:37:48.744 --> 00:37:50.093
I'm Slim Shady, you know?
936
00:37:50.224 --> 00:37:51.181
And I'm just like,
no, you're not.
937
00:37:54.054 --> 00:37:55.795
- It was who they were now.
938
00:37:55.882 --> 00:37:57.362
It wasn't like, hey, I'm going
to go down to Times Square.
939
00:37:57.449 --> 00:37:59.059
I'm gonna--you know,
I'm gonna pay homage
940
00:37:59.189 --> 00:38:00.016
to Em and, you know,
do my thing.
941
00:38:00.147 --> 00:38:01.888
It was like, I'm becoming him.
942
00:38:14.117 --> 00:38:16.903
Nine years old, you know?
943
00:38:17.033 --> 00:38:19.427
One day I wanted to--
to make my hair blonde.
944
00:38:52.330 --> 00:38:54.593
You feel like a real Shady.
945
00:39:01.164 --> 00:39:03.428
Every people who look
at you, they--
946
00:39:03.558 --> 00:39:08.476
they know what is about,
you know, Shady, man.
947
00:39:10.913 --> 00:39:14.743
- Eminem is absolutely like
an unwilling cult leader.
948
00:39:14.917 --> 00:39:18.965
He's someone who did not
want to take up that position
949
00:39:19.139 --> 00:39:22.272
but has been,
to no fault of his own,
950
00:39:22.403 --> 00:39:24.144
kind of thrust into it.
951
00:39:24.274 --> 00:39:25.754
- Eminem,
ladies and gentlemen.
952
00:39:25.928 --> 00:39:30.063
[cheering]
953
00:39:30.237 --> 00:39:31.586
Big day.
- Right.
954
00:39:31.717 --> 00:39:32.718
- New album is out.
- A really big day.
955
00:39:32.892 --> 00:39:33.893
- Yeah.
- Really big day.
956
00:39:33.980 --> 00:39:35.285
- "Mathers LP" is out.
957
00:39:35.373 --> 00:39:36.765
Now, that's your real name.
958
00:39:36.896 --> 00:39:37.723
Is, uh--does that mean...
- It's my real name.
959
00:39:37.853 --> 00:39:38.941
- That this is sort of
more of, like,
960
00:39:39.072 --> 00:39:40.856
reflective of who you are?
Or, uh--
961
00:39:40.987 --> 00:39:42.641
- I think so.
962
00:39:42.771 --> 00:39:44.947
I think I got kind of personal
on this album,
963
00:39:45.078 --> 00:39:46.688
and just basically
I just wanted
964
00:39:46.819 --> 00:39:48.516
to let people know that
this is--this is the real me.
965
00:39:48.647 --> 00:39:50.431
This is all jokes aside,
you know what I'm saying?
966
00:39:50.605 --> 00:39:52.128
There's a lot of songs
on the album that
967
00:39:52.215 --> 00:39:53.695
are like that, that
are like, you know,
968
00:39:53.782 --> 00:39:54.827
more serious than
the first album.
969
00:39:54.914 --> 00:39:56.568
- Right.
970
00:39:56.655 --> 00:39:57.264
Actually, we're listening
to it right now,
971
00:39:57.395 --> 00:39:58.613
a track called "Stan."
972
00:39:58.744 --> 00:39:59.701
It's the third track
on the album.
973
00:39:59.832 --> 00:40:00.659
What's--what's all this about?
974
00:40:00.746 --> 00:40:02.269
Explain this to me.
975
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.314
- Um, basically,
it's just about crazy fan mail
976
00:40:04.489 --> 00:40:06.229
that I get from people.
977
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.058
And it's about, like,
a kid who is really sick,
978
00:40:09.145 --> 00:40:10.669
you know what I'm saying?
979
00:40:10.843 --> 00:40:12.932
And--and takes everything
that I say literally.
980
00:40:13.019 --> 00:40:15.500
What inspired me
to write "Stan" first
981
00:40:15.587 --> 00:40:18.111
was when I got the beat
982
00:40:18.198 --> 00:40:19.939
and it had
the Dido sample in it.
983
00:40:20.069 --> 00:40:22.158
"But your picture
on my wall reminds me
984
00:40:22.289 --> 00:40:23.377
that it's not so bad."
985
00:40:23.551 --> 00:40:26.249
I felt like, that is--
986
00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:29.949
that line right there,
that's LL Cool J to me.
987
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:33.387
Like, LL Cool J was
one of the rappers
988
00:40:33.518 --> 00:40:36.564
who helped get me through
so much childhood shit.
989
00:40:36.651 --> 00:40:38.479
I kept thinking,
like, oh, my God,
990
00:40:38.566 --> 00:40:41.090
am I LL Cool J
to somebody else?
991
00:40:41.221 --> 00:40:42.744
Instantly, I was like,
yo, this has
992
00:40:42.875 --> 00:40:44.616
got to be about,
like, an obsessed fan
993
00:40:44.790 --> 00:40:48.402
who's taking my shit
too literal, and slow down.
994
00:40:48.533 --> 00:40:50.448
I'm not--I'm just Marshall.
995
00:40:50.622 --> 00:40:51.753
[thunder rumbling,
rain pattering]
996
00:40:51.884 --> 00:40:55.061
Like, I'm not
your fucking savior.
997
00:40:55.148 --> 00:40:58.804
[thunder crashes]
998
00:40:58.978 --> 00:41:03.243
♪
999
00:41:03.373 --> 00:41:06.725
[thunder rumbling, crashing]
1000
00:41:16.125 --> 00:41:17.083
- Let me in!
1001
00:41:17.170 --> 00:41:18.824
[knocking]
1002
00:41:18.954 --> 00:41:20.826
- What?
1003
00:41:20.913 --> 00:41:22.436
- Stanley, what are you
doing to yourself?
1004
00:41:22.567 --> 00:41:24.612
- What, the hair?
You don't like it?
1005
00:41:24.743 --> 00:41:26.135
- Stanley!
- You like it?
1006
00:41:26.266 --> 00:41:27.789
- Stanley!
Don't--
1007
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.184
- Don't call me that, OK?
1008
00:41:31.271 --> 00:41:32.359
Don't call me that.
1009
00:41:32.490 --> 00:41:33.752
- Don't you think
you're taking this too far?
1010
00:41:33.839 --> 00:41:34.883
Stanley.
- Here.
1011
00:41:34.970 --> 00:41:36.319
- Stanley!
1012
00:41:36.406 --> 00:41:37.451
I was listening to the lyrics.
1013
00:41:37.625 --> 00:41:38.931
I was just like,
this is amazing.
1014
00:41:39.061 --> 00:41:40.628
I mean, I just think
his lyrics on that song
1015
00:41:40.759 --> 00:41:42.282
are absolutely brilliant,
you know?
1016
00:41:42.456 --> 00:41:45.198
He's, to me,
the ultimate storyteller.
1017
00:41:45.285 --> 00:41:46.765
[Eminem's "Stan"]
1018
00:41:46.852 --> 00:41:49.376
♪ And I can't see at all ♪
1019
00:41:49.507 --> 00:41:52.901
♪ Even if I could,
it'd all be gray ♪
1020
00:41:53.075 --> 00:41:55.295
♪ But your picture
on my wall ♪
1021
00:41:55.469 --> 00:41:59.038
♪ It reminds me
that it's not so bad ♪
1022
00:41:59.168 --> 00:42:01.127
♪ It's not so bad ♪
1023
00:42:01.214 --> 00:42:03.651
- ♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you,
but you still ain't calling ♪
1024
00:42:03.738 --> 00:42:05.392
♪ I left my cell, my pager,
and my home phone ♪
1025
00:42:05.479 --> 00:42:06.654
♪ At the bottom ♪
1026
00:42:06.828 --> 00:42:08.308
♪ I sent two letters
back in autumn ♪
1027
00:42:08.438 --> 00:42:09.483
♪ You must not have got 'em ♪
1028
00:42:09.657 --> 00:42:11.006
♪ There probably was
a problem ♪
1029
00:42:11.093 --> 00:42:12.530
♪ At the post office
or something ♪
1030
00:42:12.660 --> 00:42:13.835
♪ Sometimes
I scribble addresses ♪
1031
00:42:13.922 --> 00:42:15.271
♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪
1032
00:42:15.402 --> 00:42:17.360
♪ But anyways, fuck it,
what's been up, man ♪
1033
00:42:17.447 --> 00:42:18.623
♪ How's your daughter ♪
1034
00:42:18.753 --> 00:42:19.841
♪ My girlfriend's
pregnant too ♪
1035
00:42:19.928 --> 00:42:21.408
♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪
1036
00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:23.279
♪ If I have a daughter,
guess what I'ma call her ♪
1037
00:42:23.366 --> 00:42:25.020
♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪
1038
00:42:25.151 --> 00:42:27.327
♪ I read about your
Uncle Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪
1039
00:42:27.501 --> 00:42:29.198
♪ I had a friend kill himself
over some bitch ♪
1040
00:42:29.285 --> 00:42:30.939
♪ Who didn't want him ♪
1041
00:42:31.070 --> 00:42:32.506
♪ I know you probably
hear this every day ♪
1042
00:42:32.680 --> 00:42:34.421
♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪
1043
00:42:34.552 --> 00:42:36.902
♪ I even got the underground
shit that you did with Skam ♪
1044
00:42:36.989 --> 00:42:38.294
♪ I got a room full
of your posters ♪
1045
00:42:38.468 --> 00:42:39.861
♪ And your pictures, man ♪
1046
00:42:39.992 --> 00:42:41.471
♪ I like the shit you did
with Rawkus too ♪
1047
00:42:41.646 --> 00:42:43.038
♪ That shit was phat ♪
1048
00:42:43.125 --> 00:42:44.736
♪ Anyways, I hope
you get this, man ♪
1049
00:42:44.910 --> 00:42:46.346
♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪
1050
00:42:46.476 --> 00:42:48.000
♪ Truly yours,
your biggest fan ♪
1051
00:42:48.130 --> 00:42:49.349
♪ This is Stan ♪
1052
00:42:49.523 --> 00:42:52.657
- ♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1053
00:42:52.787 --> 00:42:54.528
- I used to write him
all the time.
1054
00:42:54.702 --> 00:42:56.617
I was like, hi,
I'm your biggest fan.
1055
00:42:56.704 --> 00:42:58.750
I love you so much.
1056
00:42:58.924 --> 00:43:01.404
- [laughs]
When I was like, 12, yeah.
1057
00:43:01.535 --> 00:43:02.797
Yeah, I wrote him a letter.
1058
00:43:02.928 --> 00:43:05.974
And then later on,
I would write and be like,
1059
00:43:06.105 --> 00:43:08.020
your music is saving my life.
1060
00:43:08.150 --> 00:43:09.978
Thank you for everything.
1061
00:43:10.109 --> 00:43:12.633
- I actually took a few hours
writing all the things
1062
00:43:12.807 --> 00:43:17.159
I wanted to, but I thought
it was, I don't know,
1063
00:43:17.333 --> 00:43:19.118
like too much like "Stan."
1064
00:43:19.205 --> 00:43:22.425
- I wrote one email
about 10 years ago.
1065
00:43:22.512 --> 00:43:23.775
I haven't heard nothing back,
1066
00:43:23.905 --> 00:43:25.341
but I'm still got
my fingers crossed.
1067
00:43:25.428 --> 00:43:27.343
It's only been 10 years.
We good.
1068
00:43:27.474 --> 00:43:29.345
- ♪ Dear Slim, you still ain't
called or wrote ♪
1069
00:43:29.476 --> 00:43:30.346
♪ I hope you have a chance ♪
1070
00:43:30.477 --> 00:43:31.957
♪ I ain't mad ♪
1071
00:43:32.131 --> 00:43:33.698
♪ I just think it's fucked up
you don't answer fans ♪
1072
00:43:33.785 --> 00:43:35.177
♪ If you didn't want
to talk to me ♪
1073
00:43:35.308 --> 00:43:37.179
♪ Outside the concert,
you didn't have to ♪
1074
00:43:37.310 --> 00:43:39.355
♪ But you could have signed
an autograph for Matthew ♪
1075
00:43:39.486 --> 00:43:40.443
♪ That's my little brother,
man ♪
1076
00:43:40.574 --> 00:43:42.054
♪ He's only six years old ♪
1077
00:43:42.184 --> 00:43:43.838
♪ We waited in
the blistering cold for you ♪
1078
00:43:43.969 --> 00:43:45.753
♪ For four hours
and you just said no ♪
1079
00:43:45.927 --> 00:43:47.146
♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪
1080
00:43:47.233 --> 00:43:48.843
♪ You're like
his fucking idol ♪
1081
00:43:49.017 --> 00:43:49.888
♪ He wants to be
just like you, man ♪
1082
00:43:49.975 --> 00:43:51.585
♪ He likes you
more than I do ♪
1083
00:43:51.716 --> 00:43:55.807
- Stan, he's a really, really,
really hardcore fan of Eminem,
1084
00:43:55.937 --> 00:43:57.591
and he believes he's in, like,
1085
00:43:57.678 --> 00:44:00.986
a parasocial relationship
with Eminem.
1086
00:44:01.116 --> 00:44:04.250
- Parasocial relationship
is a one-way
1087
00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:07.732
mediated relationship where
it's like, there is Eminem.
1088
00:44:07.862 --> 00:44:09.429
He's on stage performing.
1089
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:10.996
He's in music videos.
1090
00:44:11.083 --> 00:44:14.086
And you start to feel
like you know this person.
1091
00:44:14.173 --> 00:44:16.001
- ♪ Bad ♪
1092
00:44:16.131 --> 00:44:18.786
- Over time,
parasocial relationships,
1093
00:44:18.873 --> 00:44:22.616
they increase
in psychological intensity.
1094
00:44:22.703 --> 00:44:25.358
They can develop into
what's called identification.
1095
00:44:25.488 --> 00:44:27.969
You become so absorbed,
1096
00:44:28.056 --> 00:44:31.016
you start to take on
his attitudes
1097
00:44:31.146 --> 00:44:32.713
and beliefs and behaviors.
1098
00:44:32.887 --> 00:44:34.715
- ♪ I can relate to what
you're saying in your songs ♪
1099
00:44:34.802 --> 00:44:36.151
♪ So when I have
a shitty day ♪
1100
00:44:36.238 --> 00:44:37.762
♪ I drift away
and put 'em on ♪
1101
00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:39.067
♪ Because I don't ♪
1102
00:44:39.241 --> 00:44:41.461
- After that you get to
what's called worship--
1103
00:44:41.548 --> 00:44:43.811
- ♪ I even got a tattoo of
your name across the chest ♪
1104
00:44:43.942 --> 00:44:45.813
- Is when you treat
the media persona
1105
00:44:45.944 --> 00:44:47.597
like a godlike figure.
1106
00:44:47.772 --> 00:44:49.643
It is the less healthy place
1107
00:44:49.730 --> 00:44:51.166
you want to be
on the spectrum.
1108
00:44:51.253 --> 00:44:53.038
- ♪ See, everything
you say is real ♪
1109
00:44:53.125 --> 00:44:54.822
♪ And I respect you
'cause you tell it ♪
1110
00:44:54.909 --> 00:44:57.564
♪ My girlfriend's jealous
'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪
1111
00:44:57.695 --> 00:44:58.652
- I mean, I could relate.
1112
00:44:58.826 --> 00:45:00.306
I was like,
yeah, that happens.
1113
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.700
Really awesome fans
that can get,
1114
00:45:02.830 --> 00:45:04.832
you know--you're like
their best friend,
1115
00:45:05.006 --> 00:45:06.312
and you don't even know it.
1116
00:45:06.486 --> 00:45:07.617
- ♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪
1117
00:45:07.705 --> 00:45:09.619
♪ PS, we should
be together too ♪
1118
00:45:09.707 --> 00:45:12.622
- ♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1119
00:45:12.710 --> 00:45:14.668
- The connotations
from the song
1120
00:45:14.842 --> 00:45:18.063
are somebody that
is a crazy fan.
1121
00:45:18.193 --> 00:45:20.630
It's probably how
a lot of people see me,
1122
00:45:20.761 --> 00:45:23.068
I would imagine.
1123
00:45:23.198 --> 00:45:25.853
- ♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good
to Call or Write My Fans ♪
1124
00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:28.987
♪ This will be the last
package I ever send your ass ♪
1125
00:45:29.117 --> 00:45:30.466
♪ It's been six months
and still no word ♪
1126
00:45:30.597 --> 00:45:31.816
♪ I don't deserve it ♪
1127
00:45:31.903 --> 00:45:33.687
♪ I know you got
my last two letters ♪
1128
00:45:33.774 --> 00:45:35.123
♪ I wrote the addresses
on 'em perfect ♪
1129
00:45:35.254 --> 00:45:36.864
- Reaching out, reaching out,
and no answer.
1130
00:45:36.995 --> 00:45:41.086
I could see how that
could affect someone.
1131
00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:43.088
- ♪ Hey, Slim,
I drank a fifth of vodka ♪
1132
00:45:43.218 --> 00:45:44.916
♪ You dare me to drive ♪
1133
00:45:45.046 --> 00:45:45.786
♪ You know that song
by Phil Collins ♪
1134
00:45:45.873 --> 00:45:47.048
- That's extreme.
1135
00:45:47.135 --> 00:45:49.834
But then at the same time,
I was so someone
1136
00:45:49.921 --> 00:45:51.749
that was like,
well, why isn't one of my--
1137
00:45:51.879 --> 00:45:53.359
why isn't it one
of my letters he's reading?
1138
00:45:53.533 --> 00:45:54.752
- ♪ That's kinda how this is ♪
1139
00:45:54.926 --> 00:45:55.840
♪ You could have rescued me
from drowning ♪
1140
00:45:55.927 --> 00:45:57.842
- It was one of those
moments where
1141
00:45:57.972 --> 00:46:00.540
I had to look in the mirror
and be like, wow,
1142
00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:02.498
am I one of these crazy stans?
1143
00:46:02.585 --> 00:46:03.935
- ♪ Well, gotta go ♪
1144
00:46:04.065 --> 00:46:05.066
♪ I'm almost
at the bridge now ♪
1145
00:46:05.197 --> 00:46:06.546
♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪
1146
00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:08.461
♪ How am I supposed
to send this shit out ♪
1147
00:46:08.548 --> 00:46:11.246
[tires screeching, screaming]
1148
00:46:19.602 --> 00:46:22.040
- I was shocked.
1149
00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:25.173
I mean, my first reaction was,
did this actually happen?
1150
00:46:25.304 --> 00:46:27.045
- I don't think
he's a real person,
1151
00:46:27.132 --> 00:46:29.395
but it's definitely
possible that there's
1152
00:46:29.525 --> 00:46:31.049
somebody out there like that.
1153
00:46:31.136 --> 00:46:33.921
[somber music]
1154
00:46:34.095 --> 00:46:40.232
♪
1155
00:46:40.362 --> 00:46:42.016
- I think there are people
out there that have
1156
00:46:42.190 --> 00:46:46.978
that type of mental obsession
over another person,
1157
00:46:47.065 --> 00:46:49.850
and I believe that it does
come from a real place.
1158
00:46:49.937 --> 00:46:52.548
Whether it is
exaggerated or not
1159
00:46:52.635 --> 00:46:54.115
is all depending
on the creator.
1160
00:46:54.246 --> 00:46:59.904
♪ ♪
1161
00:47:00.034 --> 00:47:03.821
But I believe it is
coming from a real place.
1162
00:47:03.995 --> 00:47:08.347
- If it wasn't a real person
who actually did do that...
1163
00:47:08.477 --> 00:47:12.830
♪ ♪
1164
00:47:13.004 --> 00:47:17.399
It's a message
to all of his fame.
1165
00:47:17.530 --> 00:47:20.272
[engine rumbling]
1166
00:47:23.144 --> 00:47:24.885
[vehicle rumbles]
1167
00:47:27.366 --> 00:47:28.367
- Hi.
1168
00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:42.729
But the word "Stan"
changed with the time.
1169
00:47:42.860 --> 00:47:47.560
Stan, in 2024, it's being
crazy of something.
1170
00:47:47.734 --> 00:47:50.693
Like, very, very crazy.
1171
00:47:50.824 --> 00:47:52.565
Like, really, really crazy.
1172
00:48:07.797 --> 00:48:09.495
I never killed my wife.
1173
00:48:11.366 --> 00:48:13.629
I've never been
crazy like him.
1174
00:48:15.109 --> 00:48:17.982
I don't have a wife, by
the way, but I'm just saying.
1175
00:48:24.423 --> 00:48:27.165
Well, so--
1176
00:48:27.252 --> 00:48:29.210
OK, so you guys
think this about me.
1177
00:48:29.341 --> 00:48:30.646
That's fine.
1178
00:48:33.693 --> 00:48:35.129
Not because I don't want to,
1179
00:48:35.260 --> 00:48:39.220
but because
it was too big to me.
1180
00:48:39.307 --> 00:48:42.963
I had and I still have
a dream,
1181
00:48:43.094 --> 00:48:47.185
is to travel
and discover Detroit.
1182
00:48:47.315 --> 00:48:53.321
Because I grew up with Eminem,
so I wanted to--
1183
00:48:53.452 --> 00:48:57.630
to know and to understand
where Eminem came from.
1184
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.592
So my family thought that
1185
00:49:03.723 --> 00:49:05.551
that was all bullshit,
1186
00:49:05.681 --> 00:49:08.075
that I spent my money
for nothing.
1187
00:49:08.162 --> 00:49:10.338
But you know, when you're
passionate about something,
1188
00:49:10.469 --> 00:49:13.776
just do your dream.
1189
00:49:13.863 --> 00:49:15.648
That's it.
1190
00:49:15.735 --> 00:49:18.085
[indistinct chatter]
1191
00:49:51.945 --> 00:49:53.294
[Eminem's "Rap God"]
1192
00:49:53.425 --> 00:49:56.167
- ♪ I'm beginning to feel
like a rap god, rap god ♪
1193
00:50:09.484 --> 00:50:11.095
- How do you know
Eminem's not here?
1194
00:50:22.323 --> 00:50:25.109
[playing tune on keyboard]
1195
00:50:49.046 --> 00:50:51.613
Because I was back in Paris
1196
00:50:51.787 --> 00:50:53.528
after a beautiful week
in Detroit.
1197
00:50:53.702 --> 00:50:55.313
I cried.
1198
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.550
♪ ♪
1199
00:51:15.637 --> 00:51:19.119
- If "Stan" sort of showed
mainstream people
1200
00:51:19.250 --> 00:51:22.340
who didn't understand how
powerful a rap song could be,
1201
00:51:22.427 --> 00:51:23.732
if "Stan" did that to them...
1202
00:51:23.863 --> 00:51:25.778
[cheers and applause]
1203
00:51:25.952 --> 00:51:28.041
[pensive music]
1204
00:51:28.172 --> 00:51:31.958
Then "8 Mile" did that on
a much more mainstream scale
1205
00:51:32.045 --> 00:51:34.439
across all swaths of culture.
1206
00:51:34.613 --> 00:51:39.835
♪
1207
00:51:39.966 --> 00:51:41.141
[banging]
1208
00:51:41.228 --> 00:51:43.622
He was a global phenomenon.
1209
00:51:43.752 --> 00:51:44.971
- How are you feeling?
1210
00:51:45.058 --> 00:51:47.234
- I feel good.
- You feel good?
1211
00:51:47.365 --> 00:51:48.235
- Yeah.
1212
00:51:48.366 --> 00:51:50.759
[tense music]
1213
00:51:50.890 --> 00:51:52.761
- All right, next up
is my boy Bunny Rabbit.
1214
00:51:52.848 --> 00:51:54.241
[crowd booing]
1215
00:51:54.415 --> 00:51:56.635
He's a genius, man,
a motherfucking genius.
1216
00:51:56.722 --> 00:51:57.592
DJ, kick it.
1217
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.291
[scratching record]
1218
00:52:00.465 --> 00:52:02.119
all: Choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke,
1219
00:52:02.249 --> 00:52:04.686
choke, choke, choke, choke!
1220
00:52:04.817 --> 00:52:07.036
- I believe what they did
with "8 Mile" was amazing,
1221
00:52:07.211 --> 00:52:08.951
the way that
they loosely based
1222
00:52:09.082 --> 00:52:12.259
a lot of things on his life.
1223
00:52:12.346 --> 00:52:14.043
And it wasn't full
full-fledged,
1224
00:52:14.174 --> 00:52:16.220
this is what happened, but--
1225
00:52:16.350 --> 00:52:18.744
so it keeps me excited
because my imagination
1226
00:52:18.874 --> 00:52:20.702
starts going like, all right,
so what was real?
1227
00:52:20.833 --> 00:52:21.703
What wasn't real?
1228
00:52:21.834 --> 00:52:23.705
Is that story true or not?
1229
00:52:23.792 --> 00:52:25.011
Did that really happen when
they were in the parking lot
1230
00:52:25.098 --> 00:52:27.187
in the shelter?
1231
00:52:27.318 --> 00:52:29.929
- Yo, that's like one of
the best movies of all time,
1232
00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:32.453
if you're a rapper, 'cause
it wasn't over the top.
1233
00:52:32.540 --> 00:52:34.063
It seemed like
real-world shit,
1234
00:52:34.194 --> 00:52:36.153
going through it
with his mom.
1235
00:52:36.283 --> 00:52:37.023
- What are you doing
with your life
1236
00:52:37.154 --> 00:52:39.112
that's so great, Rabbit?
1237
00:52:39.243 --> 00:52:40.766
- Freestyling
in the car with Proof.
1238
00:52:40.940 --> 00:52:43.334
- ♪ A 1928 Delta ♪
1239
00:52:43.421 --> 00:52:45.858
♪ This shit won't even
get me to the shelter ♪
1240
00:52:45.945 --> 00:52:46.772
- Breaking up with
his girlfriend,
1241
00:52:46.859 --> 00:52:48.034
all this extra shit.
1242
00:52:48.121 --> 00:52:48.991
Like, that was
real-world shit.
1243
00:52:49.078 --> 00:52:50.906
- [blows raspberry]
1244
00:52:51.037 --> 00:52:54.345
- Him showing a glimpse
into what he went through
1245
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.609
right before he got famous,
it showed the world
1246
00:52:57.739 --> 00:53:01.613
that it's like, hey,
I come from this background,
1247
00:53:01.743 --> 00:53:03.441
but it doesn't define me.
1248
00:53:03.571 --> 00:53:05.356
- [grunts]
1249
00:53:05.486 --> 00:53:08.576
- It is who I am, but I am
so much more than that.
1250
00:53:08.707 --> 00:53:10.361
- In my mind, we're connected.
1251
00:53:10.535 --> 00:53:12.276
In one way or another,
in this universe,
1252
00:53:12.363 --> 00:53:13.451
there's a connection.
1253
00:53:13.538 --> 00:53:15.148
Yo, you--you're me.
1254
00:53:15.322 --> 00:53:16.497
You're a regular dude.
1255
00:53:16.584 --> 00:53:18.673
This is not lights,
camera, action.
1256
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:22.111
This is Marshall Mathers,
and I followed the story.
1257
00:53:22.286 --> 00:53:24.375
And most parts,
I lived the story.
1258
00:53:24.462 --> 00:53:27.029
- It enhanced my fandom
of him because
1259
00:53:27.204 --> 00:53:29.945
I just saw
how relatable he was.
1260
00:53:30.076 --> 00:53:32.426
And I didn't have, like,
a male figure in my family
1261
00:53:32.557 --> 00:53:35.734
or, you know, in my household
to look up to,
1262
00:53:35.864 --> 00:53:38.954
and I really looked up to him.
1263
00:53:39.041 --> 00:53:43.524
- "8 Mile" did the most to
explain Eminem to the world.
1264
00:53:43.611 --> 00:53:46.571
There were all these critics
who were anti-Eminem.
1265
00:53:46.658 --> 00:53:48.268
Maureen Dowd, one of them
at "The New York Times,"
1266
00:53:48.442 --> 00:53:49.835
she had a bunch
of columns, you know,
1267
00:53:50.009 --> 00:53:52.141
saying he was a misogynist
and all the other things
1268
00:53:52.229 --> 00:53:53.491
that he was controversial for.
1269
00:53:53.578 --> 00:53:56.537
And then after "8 Mile,"
she had a column
1270
00:53:56.668 --> 00:53:59.932
about having a crush on him
and talking about him
1271
00:54:00.019 --> 00:54:01.194
with other soccer mommies
1272
00:54:01.368 --> 00:54:03.065
and listening to him
at the gym.
1273
00:54:03.240 --> 00:54:05.372
It explains him
to a wider audience,
1274
00:54:05.546 --> 00:54:08.027
contextualizes him,
but it also
1275
00:54:08.157 --> 00:54:09.985
is myth-making, for sure.
1276
00:54:10.116 --> 00:54:12.074
And I think that
to the fans that
1277
00:54:12.205 --> 00:54:14.207
aren't able to separate
the man from the myth,
1278
00:54:14.338 --> 00:54:16.470
this might as well be
a documentary.
1279
00:54:16.601 --> 00:54:18.080
- My first guest
is a young man who is
1280
00:54:18.255 --> 00:54:20.518
on top of all of his games.
1281
00:54:20.692 --> 00:54:22.084
He's got the number-one
song in the country,
1282
00:54:22.259 --> 00:54:23.608
the number-one album
in the country,
1283
00:54:23.738 --> 00:54:26.132
and soon, the number-one
movie in the country.
1284
00:54:26.263 --> 00:54:28.308
Give it up for Eminem.
1285
00:54:28.395 --> 00:54:31.050
[cheering]
1286
00:54:31.180 --> 00:54:33.879
And then it's such chaos out
there that unfortunately
1287
00:54:34.009 --> 00:54:36.011
we're going to have
to shut the shades,
1288
00:54:36.142 --> 00:54:38.405
but it's a real sight
to be seen.
1289
00:54:38.579 --> 00:54:40.407
In the history of MTV,
I have never
1290
00:54:40.581 --> 00:54:42.322
seen anything quite like it.
1291
00:54:42.453 --> 00:54:43.454
- I remember being
in the theater
1292
00:54:43.584 --> 00:54:45.586
that first night watching
that, going, "Fuck, man.
1293
00:54:45.673 --> 00:54:48.023
"Now, that's an opening
weekend for a fucking guy
1294
00:54:48.110 --> 00:54:49.242
who's not a movie star."
1295
00:54:49.416 --> 00:54:52.898
He just became
a movie star like that.
1296
00:54:52.985 --> 00:54:54.160
- The movie is out.
1297
00:54:54.247 --> 00:54:55.770
How you feeling?
- Good.
1298
00:54:55.944 --> 00:54:57.163
- Yeah?
1299
00:54:57.294 --> 00:54:59.034
You're a little overwhelmed?
1300
00:54:59.121 --> 00:55:01.036
- A lot overwhelmed,
but, um...
1301
00:55:01.167 --> 00:55:03.952
[cheers and applause]
1302
00:55:06.781 --> 00:55:08.217
Proud too.
1303
00:55:08.348 --> 00:55:09.828
I'm proud too, you know?
- Yeah.
1304
00:55:09.915 --> 00:55:10.959
- I'm proud and I'm--
I'm happy.
1305
00:55:11.090 --> 00:55:12.352
I'm excited.
1306
00:55:12.439 --> 00:55:13.919
You know,
if it wasn't for these fans,
1307
00:55:14.049 --> 00:55:15.747
I wouldn't have got
to this level
1308
00:55:15.921 --> 00:55:19.054
to be enabled to do my own
movies and things like that,
1309
00:55:19.185 --> 00:55:21.840
and have this kind of power
and this kind of control,
1310
00:55:21.970 --> 00:55:23.145
and I'm loving it.
1311
00:55:23.232 --> 00:55:25.060
- Yo, let me ask you this--
1312
00:55:25.191 --> 00:55:27.672
- I was just looking up some
stuff about Eminem online,
1313
00:55:27.802 --> 00:55:30.501
and this girl was
talking about how
1314
00:55:30.631 --> 00:55:32.633
she apparently
was spending time
1315
00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:34.287
with him
while he was on tour.
1316
00:55:34.418 --> 00:55:36.158
Like, some fan girl
he picked up.
1317
00:55:36.289 --> 00:55:39.597
And I thought at first that
that was real, so I'm like,
1318
00:55:39.727 --> 00:55:42.295
did somebody really put
that--like, that hap--
1319
00:55:42.426 --> 00:55:44.428
somebody put that out?
That's insane.
1320
00:55:44.515 --> 00:55:47.082
Then when I scrolled down
to the end,
1321
00:55:47.213 --> 00:55:49.084
it said fan fiction.
1322
00:55:49.215 --> 00:55:52.087
[discordant music]
1323
00:55:52.218 --> 00:55:54.786
♪ ♪
1324
00:55:54.916 --> 00:55:57.484
The next thing I knew,
that was all I was reading,
1325
00:55:57.571 --> 00:55:59.747
'cause it was
kind of addictive.
1326
00:55:59.878 --> 00:56:05.797
♪ ♪
1327
00:56:05.927 --> 00:56:08.713
And after, like, about three
or four months of reading it,
1328
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:12.325
I was like, why don't
I write one myself?
1329
00:56:14.283 --> 00:56:17.417
I just imagined what his
head space would be like.
1330
00:56:19.724 --> 00:56:21.421
It's very presumptuous
of me to say,
1331
00:56:21.508 --> 00:56:23.292
oh, I'm writing this
as Marshall,
1332
00:56:23.380 --> 00:56:25.033
even though it literally says
Marshall's point of view
1333
00:56:25.120 --> 00:56:26.470
when I write it.
1334
00:56:26.600 --> 00:56:28.080
But you know,
it's 'cause it's fiction.
1335
00:56:28.254 --> 00:56:30.561
It's OK.
1336
00:56:30.735 --> 00:56:33.085
- Do you feel like
you have an understanding
1337
00:56:33.172 --> 00:56:35.479
of who Marshall actually is?
1338
00:56:35.566 --> 00:56:37.437
- It's kind of hard to tell
with Eminem
1339
00:56:37.524 --> 00:56:38.786
because he's like--
1340
00:56:38.917 --> 00:56:41.876
as much as he puts
personal shit in his songs,
1341
00:56:41.963 --> 00:56:44.270
he probably shows us only
what he wants us to see.
1342
00:56:44.357 --> 00:56:47.099
[upbeat music]
1343
00:56:47.273 --> 00:56:49.884
♪
1344
00:56:49.971 --> 00:56:51.016
- What's up, ladies?
1345
00:56:51.103 --> 00:56:53.758
[cheering]
1346
00:56:53.888 --> 00:56:55.760
I was sharing a lot...
1347
00:56:55.890 --> 00:56:57.152
Aw.
1348
00:56:57.283 --> 00:56:59.372
And made it like
a fucking open book.
1349
00:56:59.503 --> 00:57:00.939
And then sometimes
you want to close
1350
00:57:01.069 --> 00:57:03.202
that book back
a little bit because
1351
00:57:03.332 --> 00:57:05.465
did you share too much?
1352
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:06.510
What's up? I'm Marshall,
and I'm gonna to punch you
1353
00:57:06.640 --> 00:57:07.989
in the fucking throat.
1354
00:57:08.120 --> 00:57:10.209
Do you have anything left
to keep to yourself?
1355
00:57:10.339 --> 00:57:11.515
I can't fucking work
like this.
1356
00:57:11.602 --> 00:57:12.951
You're stressing me out.
1357
00:57:13.038 --> 00:57:14.387
[door creaks]
1358
00:57:14.561 --> 00:57:16.171
- "Before I was famous,
everything
1359
00:57:16.302 --> 00:57:18.652
"was moving in slow motion.
1360
00:57:18.826 --> 00:57:20.915
"Now it seems like
somebody has pressed
1361
00:57:21.002 --> 00:57:22.743
"the fucking
fast forward button,
1362
00:57:22.874 --> 00:57:24.789
"and my life just seems
to be rushing by.
1363
00:57:24.963 --> 00:57:27.879
It sometimes feels
like a strange movie."
1364
00:57:28.009 --> 00:57:29.707
I couldn't imagine
how jarring it is
1365
00:57:29.837 --> 00:57:34.799
to go from being where
he started out in 8 Mile
1366
00:57:34.886 --> 00:57:38.846
to the level of fame
and success and wealth
1367
00:57:38.933 --> 00:57:42.807
and confinement that comes
along with celebrity.
1368
00:57:42.937 --> 00:57:43.938
Unreal.
1369
00:57:44.069 --> 00:57:45.592
- Hey, Em.
1370
00:57:45.766 --> 00:57:46.941
- Don't--don't
come over here, man.
1371
00:57:47.028 --> 00:57:47.855
- Hey, Em.
1372
00:57:48.029 --> 00:57:48.900
- All right?
1373
00:57:49.030 --> 00:57:50.684
- Hey, have a good concert.
1374
00:57:50.815 --> 00:57:53.252
- The way that he talks
about fame in his music,
1375
00:57:53.382 --> 00:57:55.254
it's like he wishes
that he could just
1376
00:57:55.384 --> 00:57:58.562
go and be a normal person
and go to the store
1377
00:57:58.692 --> 00:58:00.172
and things like that.
1378
00:58:00.259 --> 00:58:01.565
And I think it feels
like an invasion.
1379
00:58:01.695 --> 00:58:02.957
- Yo, what's up, Eminem?
1380
00:58:03.088 --> 00:58:04.176
So are you gonna--
1381
00:58:04.306 --> 00:58:05.917
- Good to see you, man.
1382
00:58:06.047 --> 00:58:08.354
- Every single day
I'm on the Eminem subreddit.
1383
00:58:08.441 --> 00:58:10.835
There is 800,000 stans.
1384
00:58:10.965 --> 00:58:13.707
We have guys from
India and Pakistan,
1385
00:58:13.838 --> 00:58:16.841
and like, just all--
all over the world.
1386
00:58:17.015 --> 00:58:19.931
We theorize, and we go
back and forth, and we try
1387
00:58:20.061 --> 00:58:22.629
and, uh, figure out what
goes on in his daily life.
1388
00:58:22.803 --> 00:58:24.675
Would be really cool
to know, like,
1389
00:58:24.805 --> 00:58:26.981
does he go to the gym
in the morning?
1390
00:58:27.068 --> 00:58:29.070
Or does he play basketball,
1391
00:58:29.244 --> 00:58:30.942
or is he in the studio
all day?
1392
00:58:31.072 --> 00:58:33.684
It feels incredibly
euphoric to me
1393
00:58:33.814 --> 00:58:37.035
because every post--
every post you go through
1394
00:58:37.122 --> 00:58:39.690
and every little thread
of information you get,
1395
00:58:39.777 --> 00:58:42.649
it gives you one step closer
to getting closer to the man.
1396
00:58:42.780 --> 00:58:43.781
[crowd shouting]
1397
00:58:43.955 --> 00:58:44.782
- Em!
1398
00:58:44.912 --> 00:58:46.479
Em!
1399
00:58:46.566 --> 00:58:48.002
- You can look
at your smartphone now
1400
00:58:48.089 --> 00:58:49.221
and look at social media
and feel like
1401
00:58:49.308 --> 00:58:51.484
you have a direct line
to these people now.
1402
00:58:51.658 --> 00:58:54.487
There's definitely
a very thin line
1403
00:58:54.574 --> 00:58:56.010
when you go from
that follow button,
1404
00:58:56.097 --> 00:58:58.230
and then all of a sudden,
you're following someone.
1405
00:58:58.317 --> 00:59:01.668
Conversely,
I'm following them.
1406
00:59:01.755 --> 00:59:03.975
And it's like, I need
to know every new thing
1407
00:59:04.105 --> 00:59:06.847
about this person, and I
think that takes some people
1408
00:59:06.978 --> 00:59:09.502
down some dark roads.
1409
00:59:09.633 --> 00:59:12.113
- I'm sure it feels
like a prison,
1410
00:59:12.287 --> 00:59:15.682
where you can't go anywhere
without being recognized.
1411
00:59:15.856 --> 00:59:18.685
[ominous music]
1412
00:59:18.859 --> 00:59:25.649
♪
1413
00:59:30.915 --> 00:59:35.354
- There's definitely
a shift of him becoming
1414
00:59:35.484 --> 00:59:37.312
a little bit more withdrawn
1415
00:59:37.486 --> 00:59:39.532
from all of the fame.
1416
01:00:14.045 --> 01:00:16.221
[projector whirring]
1417
01:00:16.308 --> 01:00:18.397
- I live in that same area
where I do hear from people,
1418
01:00:18.527 --> 01:00:19.746
like, oh, my God,
Eminem moved here
1419
01:00:19.877 --> 01:00:20.878
and his address is this,
1420
01:00:20.965 --> 01:00:22.314
and oh,
I was trick-or-treating,
1421
01:00:22.444 --> 01:00:23.968
and I went to his house.
1422
01:00:24.142 --> 01:00:28.407
And it's like he can't
even live normally.
1423
01:00:30.278 --> 01:00:32.716
I've always been like, oh,
I want to meet him so bad.
1424
01:00:32.803 --> 01:00:34.369
It's almost like
a double-edged sword,
1425
01:00:34.500 --> 01:00:36.154
because what would I do,
run up to him and be like,
1426
01:00:36.284 --> 01:00:37.634
oh, my God, Eminem?
1427
01:00:37.764 --> 01:00:40.245
And that's, like,
not what he wants.
1428
01:00:40.375 --> 01:00:42.073
But at the same time,
it's, like, all I want.
1429
01:00:42.203 --> 01:00:44.945
♪ ♪
1430
01:00:45.032 --> 01:00:46.773
- I remember one time
me and Hailie
1431
01:00:46.904 --> 01:00:48.601
went to the mall in LA.
1432
01:00:48.732 --> 01:00:51.778
It was the last time I went
to the mall as me, right?
1433
01:00:51.909 --> 01:00:55.173
Like, not fucking disguised.
1434
01:00:55.260 --> 01:00:58.916
And, um, every store
we went in, we come out,
1435
01:00:59.003 --> 01:01:00.700
and there's another--
a bigger crowd
1436
01:01:00.874 --> 01:01:03.660
and a bigger crowd
and a bigger crowd.
1437
01:01:03.834 --> 01:01:05.923
And it got to the point
where I was like--
1438
01:01:06.010 --> 01:01:07.968
I picked her up,
and I'm like, come on,
1439
01:01:08.099 --> 01:01:09.622
kiddo, time to go, right?
1440
01:01:09.796 --> 01:01:13.191
And I'm walking,
and as I'm walking faster
1441
01:01:13.321 --> 01:01:14.496
and faster and faster,
they're walking
1442
01:01:14.583 --> 01:01:15.802
faster and faster and faster.
1443
01:01:15.976 --> 01:01:17.325
And I literally felt
like I was being chased
1444
01:01:17.456 --> 01:01:19.545
out the fucking mall.
1445
01:01:19.676 --> 01:01:24.811
And that was one
of those moments
1446
01:01:24.898 --> 01:01:28.859
where I realized, like,
my life really has changed.
1447
01:01:29.033 --> 01:01:32.819
Like, I can't--I can't
do this anymore, right?
1448
01:01:32.950 --> 01:01:35.343
'Cause I got
to protect my baby.
1449
01:01:35.474 --> 01:01:38.433
So that was a scary--
that was a scary moment,
1450
01:01:38.607 --> 01:01:40.044
and scary for her too.
1451
01:01:40.131 --> 01:01:41.741
I asked her.
She--she doesn't remember it.
1452
01:01:41.872 --> 01:01:42.916
She was too little
to remember it.
1453
01:01:43.090 --> 01:01:46.224
But I remember it,
and it was fucking crazy.
1454
01:01:56.060 --> 01:01:58.976
But people do not realize
how dangerous...
1455
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.679
- Some people who are
attracted to Eminem
1456
01:02:06.766 --> 01:02:09.290
might not be
the best-intentioned people
1457
01:02:09.421 --> 01:02:13.120
and who could be aggressive
or violent.
1458
01:02:13.251 --> 01:02:15.688
- We've seen it with other
artists, who a super-fan
1459
01:02:15.819 --> 01:02:17.429
has, you know,
come after them.
1460
01:02:17.603 --> 01:02:24.697
♪
1461
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:28.657
- I definitely feared
for his safety.
1462
01:02:28.788 --> 01:02:29.963
Sometimes you get
obsessive fans
1463
01:02:30.094 --> 01:02:32.096
that are mentally unstable.
1464
01:02:32.270 --> 01:02:35.534
♪
1465
01:02:35.664 --> 01:02:37.101
- I'm protective of Eminem.
1466
01:02:37.231 --> 01:02:39.756
Oh, my God, if anything
happened to Em--oh, my God,
1467
01:02:39.886 --> 01:02:41.148
I'd come swinging.
1468
01:02:41.279 --> 01:02:44.499
♪ ♪
1469
01:02:44.630 --> 01:02:47.720
- You just never know, within
this profession that we have,
1470
01:02:47.894 --> 01:02:49.983
if there's somebody
out there lurking
1471
01:02:50.114 --> 01:02:53.117
that's creating this fantasy
in their own head
1472
01:02:53.204 --> 01:02:56.685
because you're not
responding to them.
1473
01:02:56.773 --> 01:02:59.601
That's the scariest shit ever.
1474
01:02:59.732 --> 01:03:01.255
- Following and tracking him
1475
01:03:01.342 --> 01:03:02.866
like he's not
a regular person,
1476
01:03:02.996 --> 01:03:03.867
you're not a fan at all.
1477
01:03:11.483 --> 01:03:13.311
- 11 years of policing,
I've seen all kinds
1478
01:03:13.485 --> 01:03:15.008
of dark, twisty shit.
1479
01:03:15.182 --> 01:03:16.793
When you get that famous,
you can't talk to everybody.
1480
01:03:16.967 --> 01:03:18.969
You can't say hi to everybody.
You can't meet everybody.
1481
01:03:19.056 --> 01:03:22.755
And so I don't think that
this kid Stan got that.
1482
01:03:22.842 --> 01:03:25.323
- If the Stan character
existed today,
1483
01:03:25.410 --> 01:03:27.020
he would certainly
follow Eminem
1484
01:03:27.151 --> 01:03:29.980
on every platform,
maybe run a fan page,
1485
01:03:30.110 --> 01:03:31.982
definitely on Eminem Reddit.
1486
01:03:32.156 --> 01:03:34.985
Would be writing to him
on each of his
1487
01:03:35.115 --> 01:03:38.945
social media accounts
every day.
1488
01:03:39.076 --> 01:03:41.556
With the song "Stan,"
it's almost like
1489
01:03:41.643 --> 01:03:44.908
a PSA to his fans, like,
please don't do this.
1490
01:03:44.995 --> 01:03:46.823
This is not what I want.
1491
01:03:52.698 --> 01:03:55.832
[dramatic music]
1492
01:03:55.962 --> 01:03:58.530
- When I saw him in 2005's
Anger Management tour,
1493
01:03:58.660 --> 01:04:00.010
I was in college.
1494
01:04:00.140 --> 01:04:02.664
Came there to the show
with my friend.
1495
01:04:02.751 --> 01:04:04.623
[cheering]
1496
01:04:04.797 --> 01:04:09.846
This is when he was touring
nationwide with D12...
1497
01:04:09.976 --> 01:04:11.760
- Yeah, man, we out here
having a good time
1498
01:04:11.848 --> 01:04:13.632
on this tour, so far, so good.
1499
01:04:13.762 --> 01:04:14.807
- And with 50 Cent...
1500
01:04:14.981 --> 01:04:16.243
- 50--
- No, don't tell me.
1501
01:04:16.374 --> 01:04:17.331
I know I did good.
1502
01:04:17.418 --> 01:04:18.942
[laughter]
1503
01:04:19.072 --> 01:04:21.509
- And with Lil Jon
and the East Side Boyz.
1504
01:04:21.640 --> 01:04:23.250
- We out, bitch!
1505
01:04:23.381 --> 01:04:26.558
- Which to this day
has been one of the best
1506
01:04:26.688 --> 01:04:29.126
tours that I've ever seen.
1507
01:04:29.300 --> 01:04:31.476
- The atmosphere
of touring and the partying
1508
01:04:31.606 --> 01:04:33.739
and getting up in the morning
and catching the flights
1509
01:04:33.870 --> 01:04:35.828
and the plane and the jet lag
1510
01:04:35.915 --> 01:04:38.178
and riding the bus
and not being able to sleep,
1511
01:04:38.309 --> 01:04:39.266
it's hard.
1512
01:04:39.397 --> 01:04:41.616
It ends up running you down.
1513
01:04:41.703 --> 01:04:42.966
- We're done in Detroit.
1514
01:04:43.096 --> 01:04:44.228
Europe next.
1515
01:04:44.358 --> 01:04:45.620
Wow.
1516
01:04:45.751 --> 01:04:48.406
- It's almost like
I have to get off the road
1517
01:04:48.493 --> 01:04:52.236
every now and then and take
a break, or I'll go crazy.
1518
01:04:52.366 --> 01:04:55.282
[somber music]
1519
01:04:55.413 --> 01:04:57.850
♪ ♪
1520
01:04:57.981 --> 01:05:00.635
- I was supposed to be going
to see him in Manchester,
1521
01:05:00.722 --> 01:05:02.594
and he canceled
because he was--
1522
01:05:02.681 --> 01:05:05.597
well, exhaustion, he--
he told everyone at the time.
1523
01:05:05.727 --> 01:05:09.253
It was a bit of a shock.
1524
01:05:09.427 --> 01:05:11.168
- I actually had
tickets for him,
1525
01:05:11.298 --> 01:05:13.126
whenever the Anger Management
tour was that he canceled.
1526
01:05:13.257 --> 01:05:14.649
I had tickets to that show.
1527
01:05:14.736 --> 01:05:16.303
I remember at the time
being obviously
1528
01:05:16.477 --> 01:05:18.697
supremely disappointed,
but it wasn't a secret,
1529
01:05:18.827 --> 01:05:22.483
the struggles
that he was going through.
1530
01:05:22.657 --> 01:05:23.702
- That's why
I'm pill-adverse,
1531
01:05:23.832 --> 01:05:25.530
knowing how it got to him.
1532
01:05:25.660 --> 01:05:28.141
Even--I think I had, like,
my wisdom teeth out
1533
01:05:28.272 --> 01:05:30.970
and whatnot, and I wouldn't
even take the hydrocodones
1534
01:05:31.144 --> 01:05:33.016
because I'm like, I can't take
too many because this is--
1535
01:05:33.103 --> 01:05:34.669
this is the stuff
that'll get you.
1536
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:37.759
♪ ♪
1537
01:05:37.890 --> 01:05:39.370
- I was on vacation
for a few days,
1538
01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:44.157
and I came back, and my mom
came to pick me--
1539
01:05:44.288 --> 01:05:46.594
pick me up at the airport.
1540
01:05:46.725 --> 01:05:49.206
And she looked at me like she
never looked at me like this
1541
01:05:49.293 --> 01:05:54.385
before, and she said,
"Zolt, someone from
1542
01:05:54.515 --> 01:05:56.691
Eminem friends passed away."
1543
01:05:56.778 --> 01:05:59.172
- Rapper DeShaun Holton,
better known as Proof,
1544
01:05:59.346 --> 01:06:01.174
one of the founders
of the rap group D12
1545
01:06:01.348 --> 01:06:04.003
and a close friend of
sometime D12 member Eminem,
1546
01:06:04.177 --> 01:06:06.266
was shot and killed
at a Detroit nightclub.
1547
01:06:06.353 --> 01:06:08.181
He was 32 years old.
1548
01:06:08.355 --> 01:06:09.748
Proof often shared
the stage with Eminem.
1549
01:06:09.878 --> 01:06:11.271
He was even the best man
at Em's wedding
1550
01:06:11.402 --> 01:06:14.231
this past January,
but he was also...
1551
01:06:14.405 --> 01:06:17.538
- I want you to listen to him,
give him a chance.
1552
01:06:17.712 --> 01:06:21.542
Put your hands together
for the funky honky Eminem.
1553
01:06:21.716 --> 01:06:24.284
[somber music]
1554
01:06:24.415 --> 01:06:25.633
♪ ♪
1555
01:06:25.764 --> 01:06:27.461
- My name is Slim Shady.
1556
01:06:27.548 --> 01:06:29.333
Yo, this is MC Proof,
and this is my DJ--
1557
01:06:29.463 --> 01:06:30.725
- I cry.
1558
01:06:30.856 --> 01:06:31.944
I immediately cry.
1559
01:06:32.075 --> 01:06:34.468
I said to my mom, "Sorry,
I can't go to the school.
1560
01:06:34.555 --> 01:06:36.383
It's too much for me,
too much."
1561
01:06:36.470 --> 01:06:38.516
It took three months,
and even after three months,
1562
01:06:38.646 --> 01:06:41.084
when I came back
to the--to the school--
1563
01:06:41.171 --> 01:06:43.956
[clears throat]
Man.
1564
01:06:44.087 --> 01:06:47.090
Even thinking about it really
want to make me cry about it.
1565
01:06:49.266 --> 01:06:50.963
- When he lost Proof,
I cried with him
1566
01:06:51.050 --> 01:06:53.618
'cause I knew
exactly what he felt.
1567
01:06:53.705 --> 01:06:54.923
I lost my cousin,
1568
01:06:55.054 --> 01:06:58.144
and I lost him
in a bad, bad way.
1569
01:06:58.275 --> 01:07:00.103
The one person
that had my back since
1570
01:07:00.233 --> 01:07:03.149
I was a kid,
that always was with me,
1571
01:07:03.236 --> 01:07:05.978
is not here
to help me no more.
1572
01:07:06.152 --> 01:07:07.806
All I was doing was
just popping pills
1573
01:07:07.980 --> 01:07:09.373
and just laying
in bed all day.
1574
01:07:09.503 --> 01:07:11.375
If he died, I should die.
1575
01:07:11.549 --> 01:07:13.159
That's how I felt.
1576
01:07:17.555 --> 01:07:19.948
[breathes deeply]
1577
01:07:20.036 --> 01:07:22.125
I'm sorry.
Give me a second.
1578
01:07:25.171 --> 01:07:28.174
[somber music]
1579
01:07:28.348 --> 01:07:32.091
- You know, just,
I've lost a lot of people.
1580
01:07:32.222 --> 01:07:34.876
Um, I've lost my sister.
I lost my dad.
1581
01:07:34.963 --> 01:07:36.400
I lost my nephew.
1582
01:07:36.487 --> 01:07:38.358
So all, like,
my close family's, you know,
1583
01:07:38.445 --> 01:07:39.794
halfway gone.
1584
01:07:39.881 --> 01:07:41.883
Um, but my nephew
was, like, the worst,
1585
01:07:42.058 --> 01:07:44.147
'cause he was,
like, my best friend.
1586
01:07:44.234 --> 01:07:46.888
In 2016, like January,
he like,
1587
01:07:47.019 --> 01:07:49.108
complained about having
a sore neck,
1588
01:07:49.282 --> 01:07:50.762
I think it was,
and doctors were like,
1589
01:07:50.849 --> 01:07:52.764
oh, sinus infection,
this, this, this.
1590
01:07:52.851 --> 01:07:54.070
My sister was
taking him every--
1591
01:07:54.200 --> 01:07:55.158
like, all the time, like--
and he was someone
1592
01:07:55.288 --> 01:07:56.463
that never complained.
1593
01:07:56.594 --> 01:07:58.596
Um, he would never
tell you when he was sick,
1594
01:07:58.726 --> 01:08:00.119
so that was already odd.
1595
01:08:00.293 --> 01:08:03.035
So finally some doctor
was like, yeah,
1596
01:08:03.209 --> 01:08:04.993
no, this is stage IV lymphoma.
1597
01:08:05.124 --> 01:08:06.256
You know,
when my nephew passed,
1598
01:08:06.386 --> 01:08:09.998
I was like, fuck this,
and I tried to overdose,
1599
01:08:10.086 --> 01:08:12.131
um,
after his funeral was over.
1600
01:08:12.218 --> 01:08:15.874
[machinery beeping]
1601
01:08:16.004 --> 01:08:19.312
I woke up in the hospital
with my heart doctor
1602
01:08:19.443 --> 01:08:21.662
at the bottom
of my bed like a dad,
1603
01:08:21.836 --> 01:08:25.013
just telling me never
to do that shit again,
1604
01:08:25.101 --> 01:08:28.843
and I listen to Eminem
because him losing Proof,
1605
01:08:28.930 --> 01:08:31.194
I feel like I really
can resonate with that
1606
01:08:31.281 --> 01:08:34.371
because that was
literally my other half.
1607
01:08:36.677 --> 01:08:38.505
- Why is it so rare
that the public
1608
01:08:38.636 --> 01:08:39.985
gets to see Eminem nowadays?
What's--
1609
01:08:40.116 --> 01:08:41.117
- Yeah, why is it like that?
1610
01:08:44.990 --> 01:08:46.818
- I actually need him
to make my music.
1611
01:08:46.948 --> 01:08:48.341
So he be busy.
1612
01:08:50.300 --> 01:08:54.304
And he had the white shirt
with big Proof on the shirt.
1613
01:09:08.579 --> 01:09:09.797
It was--
I didn't--
1614
01:09:09.928 --> 01:09:14.367
I didn't want to see
Marshall like this, so...
1615
01:09:14.498 --> 01:09:16.935
- Guys, you gotta tell me,
what's the latest
1616
01:09:17.065 --> 01:09:18.284
with the new D12 album?
1617
01:09:18.415 --> 01:09:20.068
- It's all in the memory
of Proof,
1618
01:09:20.156 --> 01:09:21.940
everything that he was.
- Shout out to Proof.
1619
01:09:22.070 --> 01:09:24.116
- You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
1620
01:09:24.203 --> 01:09:26.336
- Rest--rest in peace,
big baby.
1621
01:09:26.466 --> 01:09:27.989
- It was one
of the toughest times,
1622
01:09:28.164 --> 01:09:31.341
if not the toughest time
in his life, that we know of.
1623
01:09:31.428 --> 01:09:34.474
And it was kind of, I think,
a when it rains, it pours.
1624
01:09:34.561 --> 01:09:38.174
My dad, he passed unexpectedly
when I was entering
1625
01:09:38.304 --> 01:09:40.480
my freshman year of college.
1626
01:09:40.567 --> 01:09:46.356
You know, listening to him
talking about his grief
1627
01:09:46.443 --> 01:09:50.011
and the lows
that he went through...
1628
01:09:50.098 --> 01:09:52.579
I mean, I connect to that.
1629
01:09:52.710 --> 01:09:55.365
- ♪ And Proof I'm truly sorry
if I let you down ♪
1630
01:09:55.539 --> 01:09:57.541
♪ But this tore me in two ♪
1631
01:09:57.715 --> 01:10:00.413
♪ The thought of
no more me and you ♪
1632
01:10:00.544 --> 01:10:02.023
♪ You gave me shoes,
Nikes like new ♪
1633
01:10:02.110 --> 01:10:04.330
♪ For me for school ♪
1634
01:10:04.417 --> 01:10:06.680
♪ Doody, I'm trying,
but you, you were the glue ♪
1635
01:10:06.767 --> 01:10:08.334
♪ That binded
so many things, time ♪
1636
01:10:08.465 --> 01:10:10.945
♪ I'd give anything
to rewind it ♪
1637
01:10:11.076 --> 01:10:13.731
♪ I had to walk down my halls
and constantly be reminded ♪
1638
01:10:13.861 --> 01:10:15.428
♪ By pictures
all on my walls ♪
1639
01:10:15.559 --> 01:10:16.690
♪ And I couldn't sleep
at night ♪
1640
01:10:16.777 --> 01:10:18.692
♪ 'Cause that image burned
in my brain ♪
1641
01:10:18.866 --> 01:10:21.260
♪ Of you on the table,
me falling across your body ♪
1642
01:10:21.434 --> 01:10:23.219
♪ Not able to stand
to save you ♪
1643
01:10:23.349 --> 01:10:25.395
♪ God,
why did you take him? ♪
1644
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:31.183
- I was really
worried for Marshall
1645
01:10:31.270 --> 01:10:33.968
during those years,
for his well-being,
1646
01:10:34.099 --> 01:10:36.623
spiritually, physically.
1647
01:10:36.754 --> 01:10:40.018
Didn't know how it was
going to alter the future.
1648
01:10:40.148 --> 01:10:42.194
- I'd got into this
vicious cycle of,
1649
01:10:42.325 --> 01:10:45.197
I'm depressed
so I need more pills.
1650
01:10:45.284 --> 01:10:47.068
And then your tolerance
gets so high
1651
01:10:47.155 --> 01:10:49.767
that you end up overdosing.
1652
01:10:49.854 --> 01:10:52.378
I woke up in the hospital,
and I didn't
1653
01:10:52.509 --> 01:10:53.901
know what the fuck happened.
1654
01:10:54.032 --> 01:10:55.642
Like, it--it seemed like I--
1655
01:10:55.773 --> 01:10:57.209
I fell asleep, and I woke up,
1656
01:10:57.296 --> 01:10:58.515
and I woke up
with tubes in me and shit.
1657
01:10:58.602 --> 01:10:59.820
I wanted to get up.
1658
01:10:59.951 --> 01:11:01.082
I couldn't move.
1659
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:07.828
After the overdose,
I came home going,
1660
01:11:07.959 --> 01:11:13.051
yo, bro, I need something,
and I fucking went to town.
1661
01:11:13.225 --> 01:11:15.880
So I was really, like,
inside knowing, like,
1662
01:11:15.967 --> 01:11:17.621
I need to fucking--
1663
01:11:17.795 --> 01:11:20.754
I'm going to die if I don't--
if I don't do something.
1664
01:11:23.322 --> 01:11:26.499
I had this video
that they brought me
1665
01:11:26.630 --> 01:11:29.763
because I missed Hailie's
first guitar recital.
1666
01:11:29.850 --> 01:11:32.244
The amount of guilt
that I felt,
1667
01:11:32.375 --> 01:11:34.986
I cried when I saw it
'cause I was like,
1668
01:11:35.116 --> 01:11:38.206
oh, my God, I missed that.
1669
01:11:38.294 --> 01:11:41.471
And I kept saying to myself,
1670
01:11:41.558 --> 01:11:43.211
"Do you want to fucking
miss this again?
1671
01:11:43.299 --> 01:11:45.736
Do you want
to miss everything?"
1672
01:11:45.866 --> 01:11:48.652
♪ ♪
1673
01:11:48.782 --> 01:11:50.088
If you can't do it
for yourself,
1674
01:11:50.218 --> 01:11:53.004
you fucking pussy,
at least do it for them.
1675
01:11:55.528 --> 01:11:59.402
I realized I'm never
doing this again.
1676
01:11:59.532 --> 01:12:02.927
[microphone feedback]
1677
01:12:03.101 --> 01:12:05.277
- When I heard the news
that he, like, overdosed,
1678
01:12:05.408 --> 01:12:08.367
I was like, fuck.
Like, damn.
1679
01:12:08.454 --> 01:12:10.674
Like, he could have actually--
1680
01:12:10.804 --> 01:12:13.285
he could have really died.
1681
01:12:13.372 --> 01:12:14.895
For me with celebrities,
it almost feels
1682
01:12:15.026 --> 01:12:16.506
like they are untouchable.
1683
01:12:16.593 --> 01:12:17.855
So whenever you hear
that a celebrity
1684
01:12:17.942 --> 01:12:19.335
died or almost died,
1685
01:12:19.465 --> 01:12:21.511
it's always like--
it hits you differently
1686
01:12:21.685 --> 01:12:25.036
from, like, uh,
like a normal person.
1687
01:12:25.166 --> 01:12:26.864
- I was just in shock.
1688
01:12:26.951 --> 01:12:28.822
So I made a point,
I'm playing Eminem
1689
01:12:28.953 --> 01:12:30.563
every single day
1690
01:12:30.694 --> 01:12:32.260
until he gets out
and until he gets better,
1691
01:12:32.348 --> 01:12:34.393
until--until he comes
back to his rap.
1692
01:12:34.567 --> 01:12:36.439
And that's what I did,
every single song
1693
01:12:36.526 --> 01:12:39.616
over and over on replay.
1694
01:12:39.703 --> 01:12:41.052
- While I was sitting
in detox,
1695
01:12:41.182 --> 01:12:42.575
I didn't know exactly
1696
01:12:42.706 --> 01:12:45.535
what I was going to do
with my career.
1697
01:12:45.622 --> 01:12:46.884
- At that time,
I was just thinking,
1698
01:12:46.971 --> 01:12:47.885
like, this can't be it.
1699
01:12:48.015 --> 01:12:49.103
Like, in the back
of my mind, of course,
1700
01:12:49.234 --> 01:12:50.540
I'm scared that it is.
1701
01:12:50.627 --> 01:12:52.759
- No new music, no new tours,
no new interviews,
1702
01:12:52.933 --> 01:12:54.674
no new jokes,
whatever the case is.
1703
01:12:54.761 --> 01:12:56.502
It's just, he'd be gone.
1704
01:12:56.589 --> 01:13:00.724
- To me, it was like, Eminem,
I know it's hard,
1705
01:13:00.854 --> 01:13:05.381
but one day
you are coming back.
1706
01:13:05.511 --> 01:13:07.295
- I had to relearn
how to walk, talk,
1707
01:13:07.426 --> 01:13:08.862
and, for the most part,
1708
01:13:08.949 --> 01:13:11.387
had to relearn
how to rap again.
1709
01:13:11.517 --> 01:13:14.520
My writing had
gotten terrible.
1710
01:13:14.607 --> 01:13:17.218
- What did it feel like when
it started to work again?
1711
01:13:17.349 --> 01:13:19.830
- Um, when I started
to get it back,
1712
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:23.660
it was exciting
because I felt it.
1713
01:13:23.790 --> 01:13:26.924
It would be in conversations,
just having conversations
1714
01:13:27.011 --> 01:13:28.882
with people or the TV.
1715
01:13:28.969 --> 01:13:31.363
Like, every--every phrase
that someone said on TV,
1716
01:13:31.537 --> 01:13:34.192
oh, you said the word "the."
1717
01:13:34.322 --> 01:13:36.281
Duh, uh.
1718
01:13:36.412 --> 01:13:38.370
It was hitting me really fast,
1719
01:13:38.501 --> 01:13:40.807
and I was writing songs
really quickly.
1720
01:13:40.981 --> 01:13:42.156
What--what's going on?
1721
01:13:42.330 --> 01:13:43.549
[cheering]
1722
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.333
What are you guys doing?
1723
01:13:45.421 --> 01:13:47.379
Do you mind if I come out and
maybe join you or something?
1724
01:13:47.510 --> 01:13:49.120
- You wanna come out?
Come on, baby.
1725
01:13:49.207 --> 01:13:51.644
- Eminem!
- Get over here.
1726
01:13:51.775 --> 01:13:53.385
- When he first announced
"Relapse,"
1727
01:13:53.559 --> 01:13:55.213
it felt like Christmas to me.
1728
01:13:55.343 --> 01:13:57.650
Because when
an album comes out,
1729
01:13:57.781 --> 01:14:00.958
I listen to an album
front to back,
1730
01:14:01.045 --> 01:14:02.481
and then back to front,
1731
01:14:02.655 --> 01:14:06.964
and then to the end again,
for months at a time.
1732
01:14:07.094 --> 01:14:10.707
So listening to "Relapse"
was amazing to me,
1733
01:14:10.794 --> 01:14:12.186
just to hear that he's back.
1734
01:14:12.317 --> 01:14:15.233
I was just so, so ecstatic,
so proud, and so happy
1735
01:14:15.363 --> 01:14:16.234
that I could hear him again.
1736
01:14:16.364 --> 01:14:17.975
- Number one, you look good.
1737
01:14:18.062 --> 01:14:20.238
Number two,
you're number one right now,
1738
01:14:20.412 --> 01:14:21.326
as far as
your album's concerned,
1739
01:14:21.413 --> 01:14:22.588
and number three,
you're number one
1740
01:14:22.762 --> 01:14:24.068
in the UK as well.
1741
01:14:24.242 --> 01:14:25.373
So congratulations.
1742
01:14:25.504 --> 01:14:27.375
How does it feel?
- Yeah, thank you.
1743
01:14:27.506 --> 01:14:28.725
It feels great.
I mean, I'm just,
1744
01:14:28.812 --> 01:14:29.987
you know, I'm glad to be back.
1745
01:14:30.161 --> 01:14:31.292
[cheers and applause]
1746
01:14:31.379 --> 01:14:33.120
Guess who?
1747
01:14:33.251 --> 01:14:34.557
You miss me?
1748
01:14:34.644 --> 01:14:36.820
Jessica Simpson,
sing the chorus.
1749
01:14:36.950 --> 01:14:38.517
- ♪ When you walked
through the door ♪
1750
01:14:38.604 --> 01:14:40.171
♪ It was clear to me ♪
1751
01:14:40.301 --> 01:14:41.564
- ♪ Clear to me ♪
1752
01:14:41.694 --> 01:14:42.390
- ♪ You're the one
they adore ♪
1753
01:14:42.565 --> 01:14:44.218
♪ Who they came to see ♪
1754
01:14:44.349 --> 01:14:45.393
- ♪ Who they came to see ♪
1755
01:14:45.524 --> 01:14:47.091
- ♪ You're a rock star ♪
1756
01:14:47.221 --> 01:14:48.135
- You know what I love
about your work,
1757
01:14:48.266 --> 01:14:49.441
and I'm sure many people do,
1758
01:14:49.528 --> 01:14:51.269
is there's a sense of humor.
It's funny.
1759
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:53.663
Uh, you diss some people
in the new single.
1760
01:14:53.793 --> 01:14:55.099
- Some.
- Yeah.
1761
01:14:55.186 --> 01:14:56.317
[laughter]
1762
01:14:56.492 --> 01:14:57.754
- ♪ Back by popular demand ♪
1763
01:14:57.928 --> 01:15:00.234
♪ Now pop a little Zantac
for antacid if you can ♪
1764
01:15:00.365 --> 01:15:03.629
- As wickedly shrewd
and sharp as he is lyrically
1765
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:05.805
with these scathing disses
of other people,
1766
01:15:05.892 --> 01:15:08.678
he was equally
on his own case,
1767
01:15:08.808 --> 01:15:11.811
equally making fun
of himself.
1768
01:15:11.942 --> 01:15:13.813
And all of that makes you
endearing to people.
1769
01:15:13.944 --> 01:15:17.556
♪ ♪
1770
01:15:17.643 --> 01:15:19.471
- His disses were
always funny,
1771
01:15:19.558 --> 01:15:21.299
and he did something
with his voice.
1772
01:15:21.429 --> 01:15:22.518
Different character, right?
1773
01:15:22.648 --> 01:15:24.302
Flowing pretty damn cool, though.
1774
01:15:24.476 --> 01:15:27.827
- The whole, like, weird
accent thing that he did on it
1775
01:15:27.958 --> 01:15:29.220
kind of threw me off.
1776
01:15:29.307 --> 01:15:31.135
Then when
I listened to it more,
1777
01:15:31.222 --> 01:15:33.964
I'm like, damn, I was missing
out on, like, some good shit.
1778
01:15:34.094 --> 01:15:35.922
♪ ♪
1779
01:15:36.096 --> 01:15:38.795
[electricity crackling]
1780
01:15:41.058 --> 01:15:44.365
- The response that I got
from "Relapse" was lukewarm.
1781
01:15:44.496 --> 01:15:47.630
That hurt a little bit, but it
also turned the lights on.
1782
01:15:47.717 --> 01:15:50.720
Like, you got to do
something different.
1783
01:15:50.894 --> 01:15:53.461
Why don't you try
embracing sobriety?
1784
01:15:53.592 --> 01:15:56.943
[soft music]
1785
01:15:58.641 --> 01:16:04.037
I realized, like, I'm not
embarrassed anymore about it.
1786
01:16:04.168 --> 01:16:07.214
And I started treating
sobriety like a superpower,
1787
01:16:07.345 --> 01:16:10.957
and I took pride in the fact
that I was able to quit.
1788
01:16:11.088 --> 01:16:13.133
♪ ♪
1789
01:16:13.264 --> 01:16:15.745
- "Recovery" was a breath
of fresh air for him.
1790
01:16:15.832 --> 01:16:17.355
I think it really
sounded like someone
1791
01:16:17.529 --> 01:16:23.753
who was reclaiming his own
life and his own narrative.
1792
01:16:23.883 --> 01:16:26.190
♪ ♪
1793
01:16:26.277 --> 01:16:28.366
- Getting sober and going
through what he went through
1794
01:16:28.496 --> 01:16:31.325
made him a totally different
person and artist.
1795
01:16:31.412 --> 01:16:33.850
He just used different flows
and different cadences
1796
01:16:33.937 --> 01:16:35.678
and ways of rapping on tunes.
1797
01:16:35.765 --> 01:16:39.333
So for me as a fan,
it was like becoming
1798
01:16:39.464 --> 01:16:41.901
a fan of a totally new artist.
1799
01:16:42.032 --> 01:16:45.731
♪ ♪
1800
01:16:58.004 --> 01:17:00.006
I was there in the front.
1801
01:17:00.137 --> 01:17:01.704
- Everybody here tonight
who is an Eminem fan,
1802
01:17:01.791 --> 01:17:03.706
man, I just want to say
1803
01:17:03.793 --> 01:17:06.665
thank you
for the support, man,
1804
01:17:06.752 --> 01:17:09.842
and not giving up on me, man.
1805
01:17:09.973 --> 01:17:13.150
I love y'all and I couldn't
have did it without you,
1806
01:17:13.280 --> 01:17:15.718
so this song is for you.
1807
01:17:15.805 --> 01:17:18.024
[Eminem's "Not Afraid"]
1808
01:17:18.198 --> 01:17:20.374
♪ I'm not afraid
- Sing it, y'all.
1809
01:17:20.505 --> 01:17:22.942
- ♪ To take a stand
- Get this business right.
1810
01:17:23.029 --> 01:17:25.466
- ♪ Everybody
- I guess I had to...
1811
01:17:25.553 --> 01:17:26.990
- ♪ Come take my hand ♪
1812
01:17:27.120 --> 01:17:28.948
- Go to that place...
- ♪ On this road together ♪
1813
01:17:29.035 --> 01:17:31.037
- To get to this one.
1814
01:17:31.168 --> 01:17:34.693
And some of you might
still be in that place,
1815
01:17:34.780 --> 01:17:35.912
- ♪ Let you know,
you're not alone ♪
1816
01:17:35.999 --> 01:17:37.391
- Trying to get out.
1817
01:17:37.522 --> 01:17:38.828
- ♪ Holla if you feel that ♪
1818
01:17:39.002 --> 01:17:40.830
♪ You've been down
the same road ♪
1819
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:42.179
- ♪ Read my lyrics off
of this paper ♪
1820
01:17:42.266 --> 01:17:43.615
♪ Before I lay 'em ♪
1821
01:17:43.746 --> 01:17:44.964
♪ But you won't take
the sting out these words ♪
1822
01:17:45.095 --> 01:17:46.183
♪ Before I say 'em ♪
1823
01:17:46.313 --> 01:17:47.619
♪ 'Cause ain't no way
I'ma let you ♪
1824
01:17:47.750 --> 01:17:48.968
♪ Stop me
from causing mayhem ♪
1825
01:17:49.099 --> 01:17:50.840
♪ When I say I'ma do
something, I do it ♪
1826
01:17:50.927 --> 01:17:52.232
♪ I don't give a damn
what you think ♪
1827
01:17:52.363 --> 01:17:53.843
♪ I'm doing this for me ♪
1828
01:17:53.973 --> 01:17:55.018
♪ So fuck the world,
feed it beans ♪
1829
01:17:55.148 --> 01:17:57.020
♪ It's gassed up if
it thinks it's stopping me ♪
1830
01:17:57.150 --> 01:17:59.109
♪ I'ma be
what I set out to be ♪
1831
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:03.069
- That album helped rectify
a lot of things in my life.
1832
01:18:03.200 --> 01:18:04.854
Talking about going
through losing his friend,
1833
01:18:05.028 --> 01:18:08.814
talking about
the sleeping pill addiction.
1834
01:18:08.945 --> 01:18:10.990
I'm just like Marshall.
1835
01:18:11.077 --> 01:18:13.906
There's times when,
in a 48-hour period,
1836
01:18:14.080 --> 01:18:17.170
I'd blow through 30 to 45
Ambien, like it was nothing.
1837
01:18:17.257 --> 01:18:19.825
- ♪ Like a fuck you
for Christmas ♪
1838
01:18:19.912 --> 01:18:21.958
- Watching how
he's gotten sober,
1839
01:18:22.088 --> 01:18:24.874
I didn't feel the need
to numb myself anymore.
1840
01:18:24.961 --> 01:18:26.963
- ♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1841
01:18:27.050 --> 01:18:29.966
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1842
01:18:30.053 --> 01:18:33.534
- I'm sitting down
at home one day,
1843
01:18:33.709 --> 01:18:37.234
and I'm just drinking,
and I pop the pill,
1844
01:18:37.321 --> 01:18:39.453
and "Not Afraid" came on.
1845
01:18:39.540 --> 01:18:42.413
I took it like
he was speaking to me.
1846
01:18:42.587 --> 01:18:44.284
And that moment, that day,
1847
01:18:44.458 --> 01:18:46.634
that night gave me
that push to say,
1848
01:18:46.809 --> 01:18:49.202
I'm done.
1849
01:18:49.289 --> 01:18:50.638
I have a wife now.
I have a kid.
1850
01:18:50.769 --> 01:18:52.205
I have responsibilities.
1851
01:18:52.292 --> 01:18:54.251
I can't--I have to stop this.
1852
01:18:54.338 --> 01:18:56.427
So if I didn't act
on it in that moment,
1853
01:18:56.557 --> 01:18:59.517
I would have been screwed.
1854
01:18:59.647 --> 01:19:02.215
He was by my side,
helping me
1855
01:19:02.346 --> 01:19:05.175
so I could be completely clean
and clear out my head
1856
01:19:05.349 --> 01:19:07.220
and start doing something
with my life.
1857
01:19:07.351 --> 01:19:09.309
- ♪ Put my life
back together right now ♪
1858
01:19:09.396 --> 01:19:11.311
♪ It was my decision
to get clean ♪
1859
01:19:11.442 --> 01:19:12.878
♪ I did it for me ♪
1860
01:19:13.009 --> 01:19:15.620
♪ Admittedly, I probably did
it subliminally for you ♪
1861
01:19:15.794 --> 01:19:17.535
♪ So I could come back
a brand-new me ♪
1862
01:19:17.665 --> 01:19:18.797
♪ You helped see me through ♪
1863
01:19:18.928 --> 01:19:19.929
♪ And don't even realize
what you did ♪
1864
01:19:20.103 --> 01:19:21.365
♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪
1865
01:19:21.539 --> 01:19:22.845
♪ I've been through
the wringer ♪
1866
01:19:23.019 --> 01:19:24.629
♪ But they can do little
to the middle finger ♪
1867
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:26.109
♪ I think I got
a tear in my eye ♪
1868
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:27.980
♪ I feel like
the king of my world ♪
1869
01:19:28.067 --> 01:19:29.808
♪ Haters can make like
bees with no stingers ♪
1870
01:19:29.939 --> 01:19:30.896
♪ And drop dead ♪
1871
01:19:30.983 --> 01:19:32.115
♪ No more beef lingers ♪
1872
01:19:32.245 --> 01:19:33.943
♪ No more drama from now on ♪
1873
01:19:34.030 --> 01:19:36.380
♪ I promise to focus only on
handling my responsibilities ♪
1874
01:19:36.510 --> 01:19:37.816
♪ As a father ♪
1875
01:19:37.947 --> 01:19:39.513
♪ So I solemnly swear
to always treat this roof ♪
1876
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.211
♪ Like my daughters
and raise it ♪
1877
01:19:41.341 --> 01:19:43.169
♪ You couldn't lift
a single shingle on it ♪
1878
01:19:43.343 --> 01:19:44.954
♪ 'Cause the way I feel
I'm strong enough ♪
1879
01:19:45.084 --> 01:19:46.999
♪ To go to the club
or the corner bar ♪
1880
01:19:47.086 --> 01:19:48.784
♪ And lift the whole
liquor counter up ♪
1881
01:19:48.914 --> 01:19:50.002
♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪
1882
01:19:50.133 --> 01:19:51.308
♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪
1883
01:19:51.395 --> 01:19:52.439
♪ But I'm too busy
gazing at stars ♪
1884
01:19:52.526 --> 01:19:53.963
♪ I feel amazing, and ♪
1885
01:19:54.093 --> 01:19:56.443
♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1886
01:19:56.574 --> 01:19:59.403
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1887
01:19:59.533 --> 01:20:01.884
♪ Everybody, everybody ♪
1888
01:20:01.971 --> 01:20:04.234
♪ Come take my hand,
come take my hand ♪
1889
01:20:04.364 --> 01:20:08.020
♪ We'll walk this road
together through the storm ♪
1890
01:20:08.107 --> 01:20:10.153
♪ Whatever the weather,
cold or warm ♪
1891
01:20:10.283 --> 01:20:13.330
♪ Just letting you know
that you're not alone ♪
1892
01:20:13.417 --> 01:20:16.028
♪ Holla if you
feel like you've ♪
1893
01:20:16.202 --> 01:20:20.076
♪ Been down the same road ♪
1894
01:20:20.206 --> 01:20:22.078
- When I was young,
I was really using music,
1895
01:20:22.208 --> 01:20:25.777
and oftentimes Eminem's music,
to self-medicate
1896
01:20:25.864 --> 01:20:28.084
for my generalized
anxiety disorder.
1897
01:20:28.214 --> 01:20:30.173
Just kind of having
a hard time with life
1898
01:20:30.260 --> 01:20:31.914
and just processing
different emotions,
1899
01:20:32.044 --> 01:20:35.613
from being bullied at school
or wanting to date girls
1900
01:20:35.743 --> 01:20:37.354
and being rejected.
1901
01:20:37.528 --> 01:20:38.921
Like, you know, all the things
that come with adolescence.
1902
01:20:40.487 --> 01:20:42.533
As I got older,
I started at UNC and
1903
01:20:42.663 --> 01:20:44.840
led a team of researchers,
and we analyzed
1904
01:20:44.970 --> 01:20:48.147
rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018.
1905
01:20:48.278 --> 01:20:52.804
We saw mental health
references go from 8% to 44%.
1906
01:20:52.978 --> 01:20:54.980
Our findings were
a reflection
1907
01:20:55.111 --> 01:20:56.677
of society changing,
1908
01:20:56.852 --> 01:20:59.028
and there were certain
artists early on,
1909
01:20:59.202 --> 01:21:00.899
Eminem among them,
1910
01:21:01.073 --> 01:21:04.468
who really kind of
normalized it
1911
01:21:04.598 --> 01:21:06.774
and made it OK to talk about
these difficult feelings
1912
01:21:06.862 --> 01:21:08.080
and emotions.
1913
01:21:08.211 --> 01:21:09.647
[Eminem's "Walk On Water"]
1914
01:21:09.734 --> 01:21:11.954
- There's so much strength
in vulnerability,
1915
01:21:12.084 --> 01:21:14.826
and that is such
a powerful thing.
1916
01:21:14.913 --> 01:21:19.091
That's one of the reasons
for Eminem's success.
1917
01:21:19.222 --> 01:21:21.137
When he's really vulnerable,
1918
01:21:21.267 --> 01:21:24.009
and he takes you there, when
he's talking about himself,
1919
01:21:24.096 --> 01:21:26.229
and the downsides of himself,
1920
01:21:26.316 --> 01:21:28.796
those are the things
that I gravitate to
1921
01:21:28.927 --> 01:21:30.624
more so than anything.
1922
01:21:32.191 --> 01:21:34.585
- ♪ I'm a Rubik's,
a beautiful mess ♪
1923
01:21:34.715 --> 01:21:35.586
♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪
1924
01:21:35.716 --> 01:21:38.110
♪ I goof and I jest ♪
1925
01:21:38.241 --> 01:21:39.895
♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪
1926
01:21:39.982 --> 01:21:41.853
♪ But I'm doing
my best to not ruin ♪
1927
01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:43.376
♪ Your expectations
and meet 'em ♪
1928
01:21:43.507 --> 01:21:45.117
♪ But first
the "Speedom" verse ♪
1929
01:21:45.204 --> 01:21:46.727
♪ Now, Big Sean,
he's going too fast ♪
1930
01:21:46.902 --> 01:21:48.991
♪ Is he gonna shout
or curse out his mom ♪
1931
01:21:49.165 --> 01:21:51.297
♪ There was a time I had
the world by the balls ♪
1932
01:21:51.428 --> 01:21:52.951
♪ Eating out my palm ♪
1933
01:21:53.082 --> 01:21:55.998
♪ Every album song I was
spazzing the fuck out on ♪
1934
01:21:56.128 --> 01:21:57.695
♪ And now I'm getting
clowned and frowned on ♪
1935
01:21:57.825 --> 01:21:59.697
♪ But the only one
who's looking down on me ♪
1936
01:21:59.871 --> 01:22:01.917
♪ That matters now's DeShaun ♪
1937
01:22:02.004 --> 01:22:03.831
♪ Am I lucky to be
around this long ♪
1938
01:22:03.962 --> 01:22:05.833
- Eminem was one of
1939
01:22:05.964 --> 01:22:08.924
the most important people
in this trend.
1940
01:22:09.011 --> 01:22:11.361
He made it more acceptable
for other artists
1941
01:22:11.535 --> 01:22:13.667
to really talk about
these complex emotions.
1942
01:22:13.841 --> 01:22:20.936
♪
1943
01:23:07.852 --> 01:23:12.988
- I really felt like those
lyrics were written for me.
1944
01:23:13.118 --> 01:23:15.207
It's extremely therapeutic,
1945
01:23:15.338 --> 01:23:18.863
and I don't take that
for granted.
1946
01:23:18.994 --> 01:23:21.779
- He really has gone through
so much and struggled,
1947
01:23:21.909 --> 01:23:24.608
and I felt connected
to him in a way
1948
01:23:24.782 --> 01:23:29.047
that I ended up changing
my legal name to Marshall.
1949
01:23:29.178 --> 01:23:30.962
It's kind of a reminder
to not feel like I have to
1950
01:23:31.093 --> 01:23:34.009
apologize for who I am.
1951
01:23:36.315 --> 01:23:39.362
[soft music]
1952
01:23:39.492 --> 01:23:46.543
♪ ♪
1953
01:24:20.664 --> 01:24:23.232
- I originally wrote
this letter to Eminem
1954
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:25.016
three months ago,
but I never sent it.
1955
01:24:30.108 --> 01:24:33.024
"Dear Eminem,
I'm not sure you're going
1956
01:24:33.155 --> 01:24:34.895
"to get this or even read it.
1957
01:24:35.070 --> 01:24:36.941
"I'm just going to write down
how I feel about everything,
1958
01:24:37.115 --> 01:24:39.335
"because, honestly, you're
one of the only people that
1959
01:24:39.465 --> 01:24:41.467
"are helping me get through
this, even if I'm just
1960
01:24:41.641 --> 01:24:43.295
"a random 14-year-old girl
1961
01:24:43.382 --> 01:24:45.515
"probably having
one of those mood swings.
1962
01:24:45.602 --> 01:24:47.734
"Don't worry, I won't end up
like your song 'Stan,'
1963
01:24:47.865 --> 01:24:49.432
"even though it's
one of my favorites.
1964
01:24:49.562 --> 01:24:51.825
"But it will never beat
'Mockingbird.'
1965
01:24:51.912 --> 01:24:53.958
"That fucking song
saved my life.
1966
01:24:54.089 --> 01:24:55.873
"My parents are constantly
fighting about stuff
1967
01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:57.527
"that don't even matter.
1968
01:24:57.657 --> 01:25:00.225
"And it gets annoying, because
when I say something about it,
1969
01:25:00.356 --> 01:25:01.879
"I get blamed for it.
1970
01:25:01.966 --> 01:25:05.752
"And the only one
that I feel cares about me
1971
01:25:05.926 --> 01:25:08.146
"is my brother,
because he was the one
1972
01:25:08.277 --> 01:25:10.453
"that had me listening to you
ever since I was born.
1973
01:25:10.583 --> 01:25:12.455
"He's in his 20s,
and I love him a lot,
1974
01:25:12.542 --> 01:25:15.719
and I wish my parents..."
[laughs]
1975
01:25:15.893 --> 01:25:17.416
"Loved me as much as he did.
1976
01:25:17.547 --> 01:25:19.505
"I thought about how much
you care about Hailie
1977
01:25:19.679 --> 01:25:21.072
"and just wish
they cared about me
1978
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:22.769
"as much as you did with her.
1979
01:25:22.856 --> 01:25:24.771
"It's crazy that your songs
and even your silly interviews
1980
01:25:24.902 --> 01:25:26.904
"make me feel happier
than my family ever did.
1981
01:25:26.991 --> 01:25:28.775
"I know I'm just
another Eminem fan who
1982
01:25:28.906 --> 01:25:30.908
"has a sad backstory
or some other shit like that,
1983
01:25:31.082 --> 01:25:32.475
"but you're such a cool guy.
1984
01:25:32.605 --> 01:25:35.434
"I admire you,
and if my parents did,
1985
01:25:35.565 --> 01:25:37.219
"maybe they'd be an even
better parent like you are.
1986
01:25:37.306 --> 01:25:39.525
Hope you get this, Kripa."
1987
01:25:39.656 --> 01:25:41.179
[laughs]
1988
01:25:41.310 --> 01:25:43.050
- Why do you think
you chose him as an outlet
1989
01:25:43.138 --> 01:25:45.401
for your tough feelings?
1990
01:25:45.531 --> 01:25:46.663
- Um, sorry, wait.
1991
01:25:46.793 --> 01:25:49.100
[laughs]
1992
01:25:49.274 --> 01:25:52.669
Um, probably because, like,
1993
01:25:52.799 --> 01:25:55.541
he's had a really tough
childhood too, so I feel like,
1994
01:25:55.715 --> 01:25:57.543
um, he would relate
a little bit.
1995
01:25:57.674 --> 01:26:03.462
Taking my feelings out with,
like, writing something--
1996
01:26:03.549 --> 01:26:04.898
sorry.
1997
01:26:04.985 --> 01:26:11.122
Um, I feel like it, like,
makes me feel better.
1998
01:26:11.296 --> 01:26:14.125
[somber music]
1999
01:26:14.256 --> 01:26:17.128
[crying]
2000
01:26:17.259 --> 01:26:20.392
♪ ♪
2001
01:26:20.523 --> 01:26:23.221
I feel like
it makes me feel better
2002
01:26:23.352 --> 01:26:25.180
'cause there's also
other people out there
2003
01:26:25.310 --> 01:26:26.964
going through the same thing.
2004
01:26:27.051 --> 01:26:31.490
And so if they see
what I'm going through
2005
01:26:31.577 --> 01:26:33.405
and what, like,
Eminem went through,
2006
01:26:33.579 --> 01:26:35.320
maybe they'll know
that a lot of people
2007
01:26:35.407 --> 01:26:37.017
also go through
the same things
2008
01:26:37.192 --> 01:26:40.543
that, like, other people do.
2009
01:26:42.632 --> 01:26:45.200
- A big part of my tattoos
have been about
2010
01:26:45.330 --> 01:26:49.247
facing up to my mental health.
2011
01:26:49.421 --> 01:26:51.989
A lot of people really
didn't like my world record.
2012
01:26:52.076 --> 01:26:53.295
What a stupid record.
2013
01:26:53.382 --> 01:26:55.427
It's ridiculous.
2014
01:26:55.558 --> 01:26:59.649
It can hurt when--when
people say horrible things.
2015
01:26:59.823 --> 01:27:01.390
I've been told that
I need to be locked up,
2016
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:03.392
I should be in
a mental place.
2017
01:27:03.566 --> 01:27:07.439
[phone chiming]
2018
01:27:07.570 --> 01:27:09.311
Although I read
the negative things,
2019
01:27:09.398 --> 01:27:11.008
and it's hurtful,
2020
01:27:11.138 --> 01:27:14.011
it would never change
the fact that
2021
01:27:14.098 --> 01:27:17.014
I've continued
to get the tattoos.
2022
01:27:17.101 --> 01:27:19.973
- Do you have
a favorite Eminem song?
2023
01:27:20.060 --> 01:27:22.237
- I usually say "Not Afraid."
2024
01:27:22.411 --> 01:27:25.283
There are a lot
of positives, too,
2025
01:27:25.414 --> 01:27:28.068
because my Instagram has
brought a lot of other fans
2026
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:31.376
who really relate to me
in a lot of ways.
2027
01:27:31.507 --> 01:27:33.422
And I met my husband.
2028
01:27:33.552 --> 01:27:34.814
[phone chimes]
2029
01:27:37.556 --> 01:27:39.689
He's a really big
Eminem fan as well,
2030
01:27:39.819 --> 01:27:42.866
and he reached out to me.
2031
01:27:42.996 --> 01:27:45.564
It's really nice
to have somebody that
2032
01:27:45.651 --> 01:27:48.001
gets the whole Eminem thing.
2033
01:27:48.088 --> 01:27:50.656
I get these impulsive
thoughts in my head.
2034
01:27:50.743 --> 01:27:53.659
I was like, we should
get married in Detroit.
2035
01:27:53.790 --> 01:27:55.922
We got married
at St. Andrew's Hall,
2036
01:27:56.009 --> 01:27:59.012
which is one of the first
places that Eminem performed.
2037
01:27:59.143 --> 01:28:03.452
And now we've got a son.
2038
01:28:03.626 --> 01:28:04.975
Without Eminem,
2039
01:28:05.105 --> 01:28:08.021
I wouldn't have
the life I have right now.
2040
01:28:08.195 --> 01:28:11.286
[soft music]
2041
01:28:16.203 --> 01:28:17.466
[doorbell jingles]
2042
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:19.555
[upbeat music]
2043
01:28:19.685 --> 01:28:23.733
- What do you think is meant
by "The Death of Slim Shady"?
2044
01:28:23.907 --> 01:28:24.864
- Who knows how he means it?
2045
01:28:24.995 --> 01:28:25.909
He's a satirist.
2046
01:28:26.083 --> 01:28:27.389
He could be, like,
2047
01:28:27.563 --> 01:28:29.173
saying let's cancel
Slim Shady.
2048
01:28:29.347 --> 01:28:33.046
Which is kind of funny
to even think about.
2049
01:28:33.133 --> 01:28:36.920
[laughs]
Slim Shady can't be canceled.
2050
01:28:37.050 --> 01:28:40.402
- "The Death of Slim Shady"
is a concept album,
2051
01:28:40.576 --> 01:28:42.012
so you gotta listen
from start to finish,
2052
01:28:42.142 --> 01:28:44.841
um, and it's about Slim Shady,
his character
2053
01:28:44.928 --> 01:28:49.019
that he started 25 years ago,
and how his character
2054
01:28:49.106 --> 01:28:50.673
would be in this age.
2055
01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:53.893
- ♪ Sometimes I wonder
what the old me'd say ♪
2056
01:28:53.980 --> 01:28:55.460
♪ If what ♪
2057
01:28:55.591 --> 01:28:58.158
♪ If he could see
the way shit is today ♪
2058
01:28:58.289 --> 01:29:00.813
♪ He'd probably say
that everything is gay ♪
2059
01:29:00.900 --> 01:29:02.162
♪ Like happy ♪
2060
01:29:02.293 --> 01:29:04.034
♪ What's my name,
what's my name ♪
2061
01:29:04.164 --> 01:29:06.036
♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪
2062
01:29:06.123 --> 01:29:08.560
[explosion]
2063
01:29:10.867 --> 01:29:16.438
- This album is about,
I'm not holding back.
2064
01:29:16.612 --> 01:29:18.875
I'm gonna do everything
I can to get canceled.
2065
01:29:18.962 --> 01:29:20.659
- ♪ If I think that shit,
I'ma say that shit ♪
2066
01:29:20.746 --> 01:29:22.487
♪ Cancel me,
what, OK, that's it ♪
2067
01:29:22.574 --> 01:29:23.923
♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪
2068
01:29:24.054 --> 01:29:25.534
- I'm not sure people
actually understand now
2069
01:29:25.664 --> 01:29:26.970
that Slim Shady
is a character.
2070
01:29:27.100 --> 01:29:29.102
I feel like the new album
just offended more people,
2071
01:29:29.189 --> 01:29:31.714
but I think that that was
kind of the intention.
2072
01:29:31.844 --> 01:29:33.498
The world is in
a very different place
2073
01:29:33.585 --> 01:29:36.153
to where it was in 1999.
2074
01:29:36.327 --> 01:29:38.198
- Gen Z wants to cancel him.
2075
01:29:38.329 --> 01:29:39.678
Nobody can cancel Eminem.
2076
01:29:39.765 --> 01:29:40.940
Jesus Christ himself
2077
01:29:41.071 --> 01:29:43.334
will have to come down
and cancel Eminem,
2078
01:29:43.465 --> 01:29:44.944
and he ain't
coming down either.
2079
01:29:45.075 --> 01:29:49.253
- As his fan base, we all
grew into this whole family,
2080
01:29:49.427 --> 01:29:50.950
and we're going
to protect this man
2081
01:29:51.037 --> 01:29:52.909
by any means necessary.
2082
01:29:52.996 --> 01:29:54.998
- Going online
and seeing people
2083
01:29:55.128 --> 01:29:56.782
trying to cancel Eminem,
2084
01:29:56.956 --> 01:29:58.393
that is soft,
2085
01:29:58.523 --> 01:30:00.786
and fuck you
if you don't like it.
2086
01:30:00.917 --> 01:30:03.354
Throw up a middle finger
and let it linger.
2087
01:30:03.441 --> 01:30:05.965
- I don't give a fuck, mostly.
2088
01:30:06.096 --> 01:30:07.053
Calm down, Slim.
2089
01:30:07.140 --> 01:30:09.099
We both made Eminem.
2090
01:30:09.229 --> 01:30:10.970
He's the best of both of us.
2091
01:30:11.101 --> 01:30:13.320
And, really,
it's not about me or you.
2092
01:30:13.451 --> 01:30:15.714
It's about him and the fans.
2093
01:30:15.845 --> 01:30:17.847
Damn.
2094
01:30:17.977 --> 01:30:20.153
I don't even want
to fucking admit it,
2095
01:30:20.284 --> 01:30:22.765
but your bitch ass is right.
2096
01:30:22.852 --> 01:30:24.331
I'm embarrassed.
2097
01:30:24.462 --> 01:30:26.203
When I'm in Paris,
I'm embarrassed
2098
01:30:26.333 --> 01:30:28.292
of my parents' parrot.
2099
01:30:37.344 --> 01:30:39.738
- I'm sure 200%, 1,000%.
2100
01:30:39.825 --> 01:30:41.697
[indistinct chatter]
2101
01:30:41.871 --> 01:30:44.264
- Everyone, no matter
how old or young,
2102
01:30:44.395 --> 01:30:45.788
will appreciate
Eminem's music.
2103
01:30:45.875 --> 01:30:49.095
- ♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪
2104
01:30:49.182 --> 01:30:51.576
♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪
2105
01:30:51.707 --> 01:30:54.231
♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪
2106
01:30:54.361 --> 01:30:56.363
- People who have
not been born yet
2107
01:30:56.451 --> 01:30:59.105
will follow his music,
2108
01:30:59.236 --> 01:31:00.672
reopen "The Slim Shady LP,"
2109
01:31:00.803 --> 01:31:02.065
and love him
from start to finish.
2110
01:31:02.195 --> 01:31:04.067
[bright music]
2111
01:31:04.241 --> 01:31:05.590
I'll be looking down proud,
2112
01:31:05.721 --> 01:31:08.027
like, yeah,
damn straight, y'all.
2113
01:31:08.114 --> 01:31:09.420
You get that white tee on.
2114
01:31:09.551 --> 01:31:11.074
You get those
baggy blue jeans.
2115
01:31:11.204 --> 01:31:12.858
For sure.
Rock it.
2116
01:31:13.032 --> 01:31:16.253
- A hundred years from now,
in the catalogs of catalogs,
2117
01:31:16.383 --> 01:31:19.169
you'll be able to go back
and listen to "Lose Yourself"
2118
01:31:19.299 --> 01:31:23.565
or "The Way I Am," and you'll
know Eminem was that guy.
2119
01:31:23.739 --> 01:31:25.305
- All great artists
have the ability
2120
01:31:25.436 --> 01:31:26.872
to reinvent themselves.
2121
01:31:27.003 --> 01:31:29.353
And yet, I feel like
every time a lot of artists
2122
01:31:29.484 --> 01:31:31.834
do that, they always sacrifice
a little bit of something,
2123
01:31:31.921 --> 01:31:35.054
and Marshall's never
sacrificed anything.
2124
01:31:35.141 --> 01:31:39.276
He's, like, remained true
to the first day I met him.
2125
01:31:39.363 --> 01:31:41.278
- I'm just happy
I went after my dreams
2126
01:31:41.408 --> 01:31:43.846
'cause it inspired another
kid to go after his dreams,
2127
01:31:43.976 --> 01:31:45.108
you know?
2128
01:31:45.282 --> 01:31:48.154
The fact that he had
enough personal empathy
2129
01:31:48.328 --> 01:31:52.376
to write something where
2130
01:31:52.550 --> 01:31:55.945
the fans' feelings
are being considered
2131
01:31:56.075 --> 01:31:58.338
tells you who he is,
and for that,
2132
01:31:58.469 --> 01:32:00.340
I love and respect him.
2133
01:32:00.515 --> 01:32:02.734
- It's a crazy thing
when all of a sudden
2134
01:32:02.821 --> 01:32:05.868
you go from being someone
no one cares about
2135
01:32:05.955 --> 01:32:08.784
to someone that a lot
of people care about.
2136
01:32:08.914 --> 01:32:12.831
What he's done with his life
is extraordinary.
2137
01:32:12.962 --> 01:32:17.096
- He has grown to be
a fantastic human being
2138
01:32:17.227 --> 01:32:21.405
that is really fucking
dope at his craft.
2139
01:32:21.579 --> 01:32:25.322
He's an amazing father,
and I can't wait to see
2140
01:32:25.452 --> 01:32:27.716
what he's going to
turn out to be next.
2141
01:32:31.807 --> 01:32:35.158
- Coming here, were you
expecting to see Eminem?
2142
01:32:35.288 --> 01:32:37.682
- Maybe.
[laughs]
2143
01:32:37.813 --> 01:32:39.989
I don't--
that would be really cool.
2144
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:42.687
- Half yes, half no.
2145
01:32:42.774 --> 01:32:44.297
- Yes and no.
2146
01:32:44.471 --> 01:32:45.647
- I didn't really expect it,
2147
01:32:45.734 --> 01:32:47.126
but I had thoughts about it,
you know?
2148
01:32:47.213 --> 01:32:51.087
- I was hoping that Eminem
was going to be here.
2149
01:32:51.261 --> 01:32:52.567
- He's a busy man.
2150
01:32:52.741 --> 01:32:53.959
He's got a song
that he just dropped.
2151
01:32:54.133 --> 01:32:55.570
He's got an album that
he's dropping soon.
2152
01:32:55.700 --> 01:32:57.223
I just wouldn't think
he had the time.
2153
01:32:57.397 --> 01:32:58.703
- Oh, my God,
what would I even do?
2154
01:32:58.790 --> 01:32:59.704
What would I even say?
2155
01:32:59.791 --> 01:33:02.359
- I would probably
just throw up.
2156
01:33:02.446 --> 01:33:03.882
[laughs]
I don't know.
2157
01:33:03.969 --> 01:33:06.276
- If I ever met Eminem,
I would probably die.
2158
01:33:06.363 --> 01:33:08.191
- I don't even know, man.
2159
01:33:08.321 --> 01:33:09.714
I'd be speechless.
2160
01:33:11.673 --> 01:33:13.022
- 2013.
2161
01:33:13.196 --> 01:33:15.372
He was in Paris
for his new album.
2162
01:33:20.682 --> 01:33:23.162
And the car, they're going.
2163
01:33:23.249 --> 01:33:26.818
And I was like, no,
I'm not going to--
2164
01:33:26.949 --> 01:33:31.301
to see Marshall,
and 15 seconds later,
2165
01:33:31.388 --> 01:33:33.346
the car stopped.
2166
01:33:36.741 --> 01:33:39.788
"Marshall want to see you."
2167
01:33:39.962 --> 01:33:44.053
And every fan who was there
2168
01:33:44.227 --> 01:33:46.751
turned their head on me.
2169
01:33:46.838 --> 01:33:49.536
He knew my name,
so I was like,
2170
01:33:49.667 --> 01:33:52.104
holy shit, he knew my name.
2171
01:34:09.513 --> 01:34:11.602
The bodyguard was like,
2172
01:34:11.776 --> 01:34:15.084
OK, OK, OK, Zolt,
you go in the car.
2173
01:34:40.065 --> 01:34:41.719
Man, thank you.
2174
01:34:41.850 --> 01:34:43.721
Thank you for your music,
for everything.
2175
01:34:54.732 --> 01:34:56.778
When you're an artist
like Marshall,
2176
01:34:56.865 --> 01:34:58.083
you don't have time.
2177
01:34:58.214 --> 01:35:00.607
You do not have time
for anything.
2178
01:35:03.567 --> 01:35:04.829
[camera shutter clicks]
2179
01:35:10.574 --> 01:35:12.837
I think he probably
was shocked
2180
01:35:12.968 --> 01:35:16.711
because nobody will tell him
you have to go.
2181
01:35:16.798 --> 01:35:21.106
But, you know, I'm the guy
who respect his time.
2182
01:35:38.820 --> 01:35:40.952
[engine rumbles]
2183
01:35:46.262 --> 01:35:53.356
♪ ♪
2184
01:36:07.413 --> 01:36:12.505
- I think that people
imagine stans as being,
2185
01:36:12.592 --> 01:36:14.203
you know,
violent and deranged.
2186
01:36:14.377 --> 01:36:18.381
But in reality,
being a stan and being a fan
2187
01:36:18.511 --> 01:36:22.037
can actually be a positive
and beautiful thing.
2188
01:36:24.430 --> 01:36:27.042
I've lost a lot
of people in my life,
2189
01:36:27.172 --> 01:36:29.740
but the one thing that has
really gotten me through
2190
01:36:29.871 --> 01:36:32.525
all those losses
has been Eminem.
2191
01:36:32.612 --> 01:36:34.397
Eminem has always
been a constant
2192
01:36:34.527 --> 01:36:37.182
throughout my entire life,
and for a long time,
2193
01:36:37.313 --> 01:36:38.967
I really felt unlucky
2194
01:36:39.054 --> 01:36:40.838
because I wasn't
able to meet him.
2195
01:36:40.969 --> 01:36:42.797
It's like the carrot's
right there,
2196
01:36:42.884 --> 01:36:45.625
but it's like I can't
figure out how to get to it.
2197
01:36:45.756 --> 01:36:47.845
Now my mindset has changed,
because I feel like
2198
01:36:47.976 --> 01:36:50.848
this documentary
is a lot more personal
2199
01:36:50.979 --> 01:36:55.331
than it would be just me
to Em saying, hi, huge fan,
2200
01:36:55.505 --> 01:36:57.333
take a picture.
2201
01:36:57.507 --> 01:36:59.814
Now he kind of can understand
exactly how I've become a--
2202
01:36:59.944 --> 01:37:02.033
like, how I've been
a fan for so long
2203
01:37:02.207 --> 01:37:05.558
and, like, similar
kind of struggles,
2204
01:37:05.732 --> 01:37:07.386
I guess, we've been through,
2205
01:37:07.473 --> 01:37:11.129
and just how his music has
truly influenced my life
2206
01:37:11.260 --> 01:37:16.091
and helped me through really,
you know, traumatic times.
2207
01:37:16.265 --> 01:37:19.659
- But a true die-hard fan
really does, I think,
2208
01:37:19.790 --> 01:37:25.796
understand me
and every aspect of me
2209
01:37:25.883 --> 01:37:29.974
and understands that
I am just a regular person.
2210
01:37:30.105 --> 01:37:32.803
I'm just a fucking
human being.
2211
01:37:35.066 --> 01:37:37.416
The reason they connect
with me is because
2212
01:37:37.547 --> 01:37:39.941
they see some
of themselves in me.
2213
01:37:43.466 --> 01:37:45.642
Maybe they were
bullied as a kid.
2214
01:37:45.729 --> 01:37:48.863
Maybe the world fucking
dealt them a raw deal.
2215
01:37:51.300 --> 01:37:54.303
But for every young person
that gets older
2216
01:37:54.477 --> 01:37:58.481
and wants to pay
the world back...
2217
01:37:58.611 --> 01:38:02.398
that's the person that
connects with me the most,
2218
01:38:02.485 --> 01:38:04.313
because they understand me,
2219
01:38:04.487 --> 01:38:06.271
and I feel like
I understand them,
2220
01:38:06.445 --> 01:38:10.188
and I get them
because they're really me.
2221
01:38:10.275 --> 01:38:13.757
The fans that have grown
with me from day one
2222
01:38:13.931 --> 01:38:16.847
till now, it's,
like, unbelievable
2223
01:38:16.934 --> 01:38:18.196
that they're still with me,
2224
01:38:18.283 --> 01:38:20.155
and I'm very blessed
to this day
2225
01:38:20.329 --> 01:38:23.680
to still have people
that ride for me like that.
2226
01:38:23.810 --> 01:38:25.682
To my fans, thank you.
2227
01:38:25.812 --> 01:38:27.727
I love y'all, and I am--
2228
01:38:27.858 --> 01:38:30.469
I would not be here,
if it was not for you.
2229
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:34.734
So I owe you my life,
2230
01:38:34.865 --> 01:38:38.260
and that's who I do
my music for is them,
2231
01:38:38.390 --> 01:38:40.218
and fuck everybody else.
2232
01:38:40.305 --> 01:38:43.918
Fuck 'em.
Fuck 'em.
2233
01:38:44.092 --> 01:38:46.181
Eat a dick.
2234
01:38:46.311 --> 01:38:50.141
You don't like it,
eat a fat dick.
2235
01:38:50.272 --> 01:38:52.796
[Dido's "Thank You"]
2236
01:38:52.883 --> 01:38:54.885
- Hey, Em, it's Paul again.
2237
01:38:54.972 --> 01:38:59.281
I watched the movie, and we
got to talk about the ending.
2238
01:38:59.411 --> 01:39:02.066
Give me a call back.
2239
01:39:02.153 --> 01:39:06.331
- ♪ And I want to thank you ♪
2240
01:39:06.462 --> 01:39:07.767
- All right,
I only got one minute,
2241
01:39:07.898 --> 01:39:12.947
and I'm at work, and I'm
at, like, 4% on my battery.
2242
01:39:13.077 --> 01:39:14.731
- OK, Gracie,
one minute to do this,
2243
01:39:14.818 --> 01:39:16.211
so my daughter's
gonna help me.
2244
01:39:16.341 --> 01:39:19.040
- Please excuse me.
I just got up.
2245
01:39:19.170 --> 01:39:20.867
Um...
2246
01:39:20.955 --> 01:39:23.783
Marshall Mathers is...
2247
01:39:23.914 --> 01:39:26.003
- I can't believe
I have this opportunity
2248
01:39:26.134 --> 01:39:29.050
even to make this video,
and you might see this, dog.
2249
01:39:29.224 --> 01:39:31.922
Just know I wouldn't be me
without you.
2250
01:39:32.009 --> 01:39:35.534
- I'm your biggest fan,
Marshall Mathers/Eminem.
2251
01:39:35.621 --> 01:39:38.059
Detroit, baby, Detroit.
2252
01:39:38.233 --> 01:39:41.366
- I'm Lisa Mathers, and this
is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II,
2253
01:39:41.540 --> 01:39:42.759
but we call him Shady
for short.
2254
01:39:42.846 --> 01:39:45.544
- Just want you to know
that I'm Em's biggest fan
2255
01:39:45.675 --> 01:39:48.504
because I'm pretty much
the female version of him.
2256
01:39:48.591 --> 01:39:50.723
- Was just married August 26th
of last year
2257
01:39:50.854 --> 01:39:52.247
and walked down the aisle
2258
01:39:52.377 --> 01:39:53.857
to the instrumental
to "Lose Yourself."
2259
01:39:53.944 --> 01:39:55.206
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
2260
01:39:55.337 --> 01:39:56.555
All my friends
and family were like,
2261
01:39:56.686 --> 01:39:57.948
whoa, let's get it.
2262
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:01.082
- I am Stan.
Stan I am.
2263
01:40:01.256 --> 01:40:03.258
It's kind of like Dr. Seuss,
but no.
2264
01:40:03.388 --> 01:40:05.216
- I have two Eminem tattoos.
2265
01:40:05.347 --> 01:40:09.394
One on my chest.
One on the other chest.
2266
01:40:09.568 --> 01:40:11.831
And a D12 tattoo.
2267
01:40:11.962 --> 01:40:16.184
- I listen to Eminem music
every fucking single day.
2268
01:40:16.358 --> 01:40:18.751
I live Eminem, you can say.
2269
01:40:18.925 --> 01:40:22.929
- Mr. Mathers, I love you.
2270
01:40:23.060 --> 01:40:25.149
From Japan.
2271
01:40:25.280 --> 01:40:27.369
- This is a piece of the tree
of the old house
2272
01:40:27.456 --> 01:40:30.415
and a flower from
the new house right here.
2273
01:40:30.502 --> 01:40:32.504
- Doesn't feel too great,
but, at the same time,
2274
01:40:32.591 --> 01:40:33.549
it kind of does.
2275
01:40:33.679 --> 01:40:35.464
- Hello, Eminem.
2276
01:40:35.551 --> 01:40:39.381
I'm a fan, and I listen
to your music all the time.
2277
01:40:39.468 --> 01:40:41.992
Have a wonderful day
and take care of your family.
2278
01:40:42.123 --> 01:40:43.472
Bye.
2279
01:40:43.602 --> 01:40:48.651
- ♪ Is having
the best day of my life ♪
2280
01:40:48.781 --> 01:40:55.875
♪ ♪