WEBVTT FILE 2 00:02:48.652 --> 00:02:53.397 Temperature-wise, fairly cold. Six, seven degrees, which is... 3 00:02:53.532 --> 00:02:57.114 What is it in Fahrenheit? I don't know. Forty something? 4 00:02:57.243 --> 00:03:02.617 anyone has a nice formula then they can write in and tell me, after this. 5 00:03:04.125 --> 00:03:06.960 How to transform Fahrenheit into centigrade... 6 00:04:29.789 --> 00:04:33.288 ...dirty protest and the blanket protest has been going on for years, 7 00:04:33.417 --> 00:04:36.418 all in support of the same demand: Political status. 8 00:04:36.545 --> 00:04:41.207 That is to say, different treatment for people who commit crimes, 9 00:04:41.341 --> 00:04:44.508 hideous crimes, for what they claim to be a political motive. 10 00:04:44.636 --> 00:04:46.675 And that is what the government will not grant. 11 00:05:33.974 --> 00:05:37.557 About an hour later there's a painful cry coming from the granny's room. 12 00:05:37.686 --> 00:05:39.560 So the Da walks up and opens the door, 13 00:05:39.688 --> 00:05:42.558 and there's the wee fella having a go at the granny. 14 00:05:42.691 --> 00:05:46.558 And he turns round and goes, "It's not so fucking funny when it's your Ma!" 15 00:09:02.420 --> 00:09:05.623 There is no such thing as political murder, 16 00:09:05.757 --> 00:09:09.090 political bombing or political violence. 17 00:09:09.218 --> 00:09:13.631 There is only criminal murder, criminal bombing and criminal violence. 18 00:09:15.391 --> 00:09:18.806 We will not compromise on this. 19 00:09:18.936 --> 00:09:22.020 There will be no political status. 20 00:09:54.803 --> 00:09:57.340 I will not wear the uniform of a criminal. 21 00:09:58.431 --> 00:10:00.969 I demand to wear me own clothes. 22 00:14:36.484 --> 00:14:38.144 What? 23 00:14:42.740 --> 00:14:44.779 Say what your surname is again. 24 00:14:46.785 --> 00:14:48.659 - Gillen. - Gillen? 25 00:14:48.787 --> 00:14:50.281 Aye. 26 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:52.747 Fancy Quinn. 27 00:14:54.835 --> 00:14:57.539 Falls Road. Fancy Quinn. Do you know him? 28 00:15:00.340 --> 00:15:01.834 - No. - No? 29 00:15:07.680 --> 00:15:11.547 - How long did you get? - Twelve years. 30 00:15:15.020 --> 00:15:16.764 You? 31 00:15:21.652 --> 00:15:23.062 Six years. Six. 32 00:15:23.195 --> 00:15:26.361 - Six? - Aye. 33 00:15:29.826 --> 00:15:31.403 You lucky bastard. 34 00:20:52.379 --> 00:20:54.253 All right? 35 00:20:54.381 --> 00:20:56.290 - How are you? OK? - Yeah. 36 00:20:56.425 --> 00:20:58.631 How's Ma? 37 00:22:57.497 --> 00:23:02.158 ...engineering union. It's by the political advisor to Merlyn Rees, 38 00:23:02.293 --> 00:23:04.998 when he was at the Home Office, Roger Darlington. 39 00:23:05.129 --> 00:23:07.454 He rejects the official line on phone taps, 40 00:23:07.590 --> 00:23:09.962 that there's only been a modest overall increase, 41 00:23:10.092 --> 00:23:13.757 and says Parliament has no way of knowing how much tapping goes on, 42 00:23:13.887 --> 00:23:16.425 because the Prime Minister and other senior ministers 43 00:23:16.556 --> 00:23:19.972 Don't even have to get warrants to get a tap put into effect. 44 00:26:07.634 --> 00:26:09.044 What? 45 00:26:10.762 --> 00:26:12.885 Get ready. 46 00:27:33.298 --> 00:27:35.337 Fuck! 47 00:30:58.282 --> 00:31:01.733 ...she sends her very, very best to you. 48 00:31:04.746 --> 00:31:06.822 Are you all right, Bobby? 49 00:31:06.957 --> 00:31:09.033 I'm grand, Ma. 50 00:31:10.085 --> 00:31:12.658 Are they giving you treatment for that? 51 00:31:12.796 --> 00:31:15.002 It's being looked after. 52 00:31:17.884 --> 00:31:19.711 And the young fella? 53 00:31:20.887 --> 00:31:22.879 He's a handful, I'll tell you that. 54 00:31:24.849 --> 00:31:27.684 - Are you eating all right? - I'm grand, Ma. 55 00:31:27.810 --> 00:31:31.558 - Are they feeding you all right? - Don't yous be worrying about me. 56 00:31:33.899 --> 00:31:35.690 Five minutes. 57 00:31:37.194 --> 00:31:38.736 Five minutes. 58 00:31:41.322 --> 00:31:43.362 - You eating all right? - Aye. 59 00:31:43.491 --> 00:31:46.492 - Tastes like shit though doesn't it? - You get used to it. 60 00:31:52.249 --> 00:31:53.957 You're looking well. 61 00:31:56.128 --> 00:31:58.037 So are you, son. 62 00:31:58.172 --> 00:32:00.081 So are you. 63 00:32:06.054 --> 00:32:08.592 The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous. 64 00:32:08.723 --> 00:32:11.677 And his ears are attentive to their cries. 65 00:32:11.809 --> 00:32:14.644 The face of the Lord is against those who do evil. 66 00:32:16.647 --> 00:32:19.897 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them. 67 00:32:20.026 --> 00:32:23.441 He delivers them from all their troubles. 68 00:32:23.571 --> 00:32:26.441 The Lord is close to the broken-hearted 69 00:32:26.573 --> 00:32:29.693 and saves those who are crushed in spirit. 70 00:32:29.826 --> 00:32:32.364 The righteous man has many troubles. 71 00:32:32.496 --> 00:32:35.165 But the Lord delivers him from them all. 72 00:32:35.290 --> 00:32:37.329 He protects all his bones, 73 00:32:37.667 --> 00:32:40.288 and not one of them will be broken. 74 00:32:42.922 --> 00:32:45.080 Evil will slay the wicked. 75 00:32:45.967 --> 00:32:49.051 The foes of the righteous will be condemned. 76 00:32:49.178 --> 00:32:52.381 The Lord redeems his servants. 77 00:32:52.514 --> 00:32:56.215 No one will be condemned who finds refuge in him. 78 00:33:03.733 --> 00:33:05.227 Let us pray. 79 00:36:21.127 --> 00:36:23.998 Fucking shoes matches the wall. 80 00:37:06.461 --> 00:37:08.371 Fucking dirty bastards! 81 00:37:08.505 --> 00:37:12.004 - Fucking bastards! - Fucking dirty bastards! 82 00:37:33.612 --> 00:37:36.529 I... I... IRA! 83 00:37:36.657 --> 00:37:39.776 I... I... IRA! 84 00:37:39.910 --> 00:37:41.154 Fucking bullshit! 85 00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:32.909 Everything in order? 86 00:38:33.043 --> 00:38:34.916 Yes, sir. In order, sir. 87 00:38:35.045 --> 00:38:36.587 Very good. 88 00:40:26.816 --> 00:40:29.189 Gerry! Gerry! 89 00:40:36.784 --> 00:40:38.278 Gerry! 90 00:40:57.178 --> 00:41:00.428 Get the fuck off me! 91 00:41:05.394 --> 00:41:08.229 Shit. Shit! 92 00:41:08.356 --> 00:41:11.724 Gerry! Gerry! 93 00:41:50.729 --> 00:41:53.350 Get off me, you fucking... 94 00:43:55.888 --> 00:43:58.758 Tea with two sugars, please. 95 00:44:04.771 --> 00:44:06.847 Hi, Mum. 96 00:44:19.035 --> 00:44:22.119 What are you doing sitting in here? 97 00:44:50.106 --> 00:44:51.516 Daisies. 98 00:45:05.412 --> 00:45:09.279 Out! Out! Everybody! 99 00:45:45.241 --> 00:45:47.114 You can sit down anytime you like. 100 00:45:47.243 --> 00:45:50.243 Priest etiquette. Never sit before you're asked. 101 00:45:50.371 --> 00:45:51.995 Sit down, then. 102 00:45:52.122 --> 00:45:54.198 I don't want to come over too eager. 103 00:45:54.333 --> 00:45:56.788 What, best to hover at the door? 104 00:45:56.918 --> 00:46:00.334 You learn that in your first week in the seminary, Bobby. 105 00:46:05.635 --> 00:46:08.755 - Cig? - Come on. 106 00:46:12.099 --> 00:46:14.804 Bit of a break from smoking the Bible, eh? 107 00:46:14.935 --> 00:46:16.975 Oh, aye. 108 00:46:19.982 --> 00:46:23.066 Anyone work out which book is the best smoke? 109 00:46:23.193 --> 00:46:25.233 We only smoke the Lamentations. 110 00:46:25.362 --> 00:46:27.817 A right miserable cigarette. 111 00:46:27.948 --> 00:46:30.024 Nice room. 112 00:46:30.158 --> 00:46:32.151 Very clean. 113 00:46:32.285 --> 00:46:35.239 - Where is it you're from again, Dom? - Born, you mean? 114 00:46:35.371 --> 00:46:38.242 - Bally-go-backwards. - Oh, the city dog. 115 00:46:38.374 --> 00:46:39.868 Ballyroberts. 116 00:46:40.001 --> 00:46:43.286 A wee place south of Ballymoney. Kilrea. 117 00:46:44.547 --> 00:46:46.954 I remember a homily you did at Mass one time. 118 00:46:47.091 --> 00:46:48.798 Oh, will you listen to it? 119 00:46:48.926 --> 00:46:52.544 - The men hold you in very high esteem. - I can feel a dig coming on. 120 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:54.755 - You're very quick. - Right. 121 00:46:54.890 --> 00:46:57.345 Nah, you're respected, you know that. 122 00:46:57.475 --> 00:47:00.346 But I like those stories you tell about the countryside. 123 00:47:00.478 --> 00:47:04.096 A childhood of poaching, robbing apples, stampeding cattle. 124 00:47:04.232 --> 00:47:08.099 - A fine education for a priest. - A priest working West Belfast, it is. 125 00:47:08.236 --> 00:47:10.477 Stampeding comes in handy down the Falls Road. 126 00:47:10.613 --> 00:47:12.901 - hate me. - You miss it, though? 127 00:47:13.032 --> 00:47:15.024 - What? - Countryside. 128 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.610 Ah, sure I get home to see my wee brother every month or so, but... 129 00:47:18.745 --> 00:47:22.494 Aye, I miss the usual. Clean air. Space. All that. 130 00:47:22.624 --> 00:47:26.408 - Feels closer to who you are. - Aye, well, it is. No question. 131 00:47:28.254 --> 00:47:31.125 Like a fish out of water, working in a big city like Belfast, 132 00:47:31.257 --> 00:47:33.166 but it's a job, isn't it? 133 00:47:34.552 --> 00:47:36.794 You stop looking at your surroundings quick enough 134 00:47:36.929 --> 00:47:40.428 when you figure your business is the business of the soul and all. 135 00:47:40.558 --> 00:47:43.095 - Business of the soul? - Ah, you know what I mean. 136 00:47:43.227 --> 00:47:47.556 - Learn that in the seminary, too? - Aye. You can use that free of charge. 137 00:47:47.689 --> 00:47:49.682 Go on. 138 00:47:49.816 --> 00:47:54.110 Well, I suppose what I'm saying is... you get on. 139 00:47:54.237 --> 00:47:56.064 Kilrea can wait till I'm an old man. 140 00:47:56.197 --> 00:47:58.771 Too many scoundrels to be saved in Belfast, anyway. 141 00:47:58.908 --> 00:48:01.613 - Busy work. Aye. - God will reward you in Heaven. 142 00:48:01.744 --> 00:48:05.528 And I'll be thankful, once there's wine involved. 143 00:48:07.833 --> 00:48:10.324 So what does your wee brother do back home? 144 00:48:12.671 --> 00:48:14.628 He's a parish priest. 145 00:48:16.967 --> 00:48:19.636 He's a sneaky wee bastard. You know the sort, Bobby. 146 00:48:19.761 --> 00:48:22.382 - Still goes poaching? - Poaching jobs. 147 00:48:22.514 --> 00:48:25.135 And he's younger than me by eight years all right. 148 00:48:25.266 --> 00:48:27.508 Go on. 149 00:48:27.643 --> 00:48:31.641 Well, as a cleric I work in a parish beside Kilrea. 150 00:48:31.772 --> 00:48:34.097 A wee hole of a place. I'm working me arse off. 151 00:48:34.233 --> 00:48:37.150 House calls to the elderly, mobile confessions. 152 00:48:37.278 --> 00:48:39.270 - The glamour stuff. - Oh, aye. 153 00:48:39.405 --> 00:48:43.319 - So... a position comes up at Kilrea. - Right. 154 00:48:43.450 --> 00:48:46.570 And I'm passed over for some reason or other. No reason probably. 155 00:48:46.703 --> 00:48:49.194 - Too much cake off the old ladies? - Probably. 156 00:48:49.331 --> 00:48:50.873 So? 157 00:48:50.999 --> 00:48:54.996 So about five years later, the position again comes up back home in Kilrea. 158 00:48:55.128 --> 00:48:59.754 And my brother Michael waltzes right into it. 159 00:48:59.882 --> 00:49:01.293 Fuck. 160 00:49:02.593 --> 00:49:05.000 He's made parish priest at 28. 161 00:49:05.137 --> 00:49:08.257 More spiritual probably. Less lippy than you. 162 00:49:08.390 --> 00:49:11.759 He worked the Bishop. He's a golfer. 163 00:49:11.893 --> 00:49:13.886 He's a pushy little twerp is what he is. 164 00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:16.511 - At least you're not bitter. - No, I couldn't be that. 165 00:49:16.648 --> 00:49:19.139 Parish priest at 28? Fantastic. 166 00:49:19.275 --> 00:49:22.395 Hmm. He has two cars. 167 00:49:22.528 --> 00:49:24.651 And the house he has is massive. 168 00:49:24.781 --> 00:49:26.607 He has a maid, a cook. 169 00:49:26.741 --> 00:49:28.650 I'm stuck in a two-up-two-down, 170 00:49:28.784 --> 00:49:32.070 with a fat Kerry man who drones on and on about Gaelic football. 171 00:49:32.204 --> 00:49:35.869 - Can we stop talking about this? - Jesus, you're the one who's talking. 172 00:49:38.502 --> 00:49:40.578 - How's your smoke going? - Grand. 173 00:49:40.712 --> 00:49:42.420 Hmm. Filthy habit. Disgusting. 174 00:49:42.547 --> 00:49:44.753 Oh, aye, awful. Lovely, though. 175 00:49:44.883 --> 00:49:46.840 Aye. Praise the Lord. 176 00:49:50.680 --> 00:49:54.512 - 28... My God! - Oh, stop it. 177 00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.595 So what happened to your eye, Bobby? 178 00:49:58.729 --> 00:50:00.188 What? 179 00:50:00.314 --> 00:50:02.983 - Get a dig? Your eye? - Difference of opinion. 180 00:50:03.108 --> 00:50:06.892 - Hmm. How's the other fella? - A lot worse, believe me. 181 00:50:08.447 --> 00:50:10.238 So. What did you call me here for? 182 00:50:10.365 --> 00:50:14.409 - Why, is that the idle banter over? - Priest etiquette. Small talk first. 183 00:50:14.536 --> 00:50:16.694 I'm learning a lot about the priesthood. 184 00:50:16.829 --> 00:50:19.155 - You'd make a fine priest. - Oh, aye. 185 00:50:19.290 --> 00:50:21.366 Good talker. Man of principle. Leader of men. 186 00:50:21.501 --> 00:50:25.083 - Political terrorist. - The church loves a reformed crook. 187 00:50:25.212 --> 00:50:26.872 Aye. 188 00:50:28.340 --> 00:50:31.590 I always felt that thief next to Jesus got off lightly. 189 00:50:31.718 --> 00:50:33.841 Ah, but he recognised his sins. 190 00:50:33.971 --> 00:50:36.010 - Did he, though? - Aye. Said as much. 191 00:50:36.139 --> 00:50:38.808 When you're hung from a cross, you'll say anything. 192 00:50:38.934 --> 00:50:42.100 Jesus offers him a seat next to daddy in a place called paradise. 193 00:50:42.228 --> 00:50:45.182 You're always gonna put your hand up for piece of that. 194 00:50:45.315 --> 00:50:47.521 Even when it's nailed to your cross. 195 00:50:47.650 --> 00:50:49.975 Jesus Christ. That's sacrilegious. 196 00:50:50.111 --> 00:50:53.230 Sacrilegious? No, no, no, he was a dirty thief. 197 00:50:55.741 --> 00:50:58.825 So. What do you want to tell me? 198 00:50:58.952 --> 00:51:01.075 Where are you at? 199 00:51:01.205 --> 00:51:03.956 Been driven mad by that governor yet? 200 00:51:04.082 --> 00:51:06.371 See this negotiating lark? 201 00:51:06.501 --> 00:51:09.253 It's been a sideshow. I'll tell you that for nothing. 202 00:51:09.379 --> 00:51:11.418 But you understand why you need to do it? 203 00:51:11.548 --> 00:51:13.706 Because we're no longer good propaganda. 204 00:51:13.841 --> 00:51:16.048 According to who? The leadership? 205 00:51:17.595 --> 00:51:19.469 The time has come. 206 00:51:19.597 --> 00:51:21.838 A decision had to be made. 207 00:51:23.100 --> 00:51:25.425 You think that's what the leadership think? 208 00:51:25.561 --> 00:51:28.312 - Maybe. I don't know. - Bit paranoid there, Bobby. 209 00:51:31.733 --> 00:51:35.600 Ten thousand people marched for the seven hunger strikers last October. 210 00:51:35.737 --> 00:51:38.144 - International pressure on the Brits. - Busy time. 211 00:51:38.281 --> 00:51:40.819 Even the Pope's having a say. Getting involved. 212 00:51:40.950 --> 00:51:44.200 The whole world, trying to get Thatcher to give us our demands. 213 00:51:44.328 --> 00:51:47.080 - But it all came to nothing. - Right. 214 00:51:47.206 --> 00:51:50.539 Hunger strike failed. We're on the front line. 215 00:51:50.668 --> 00:51:54.250 We created the protest. It's our responsibility. 216 00:51:54.379 --> 00:51:56.705 Leadership have been very clear to me, Dom. 217 00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.082 Four and a half years of the no-wash protest, 218 00:51:59.217 --> 00:52:01.542 as much as it's highlighted Republicanism, 219 00:52:01.678 --> 00:52:04.595 it's also distracted from the development of the organisation. 220 00:52:04.723 --> 00:52:06.632 Because your needs are specific. 221 00:52:06.766 --> 00:52:08.177 Of course they are. 222 00:52:08.309 --> 00:52:11.144 Some woman bringing up three children in West Belfast 223 00:52:11.270 --> 00:52:15.849 shouldn't care about civilian clothing or whatever they call these clown outfits. 224 00:52:15.983 --> 00:52:20.526 Honest to God. We were promised our own clothes. It's childish skulduggery. 225 00:52:20.654 --> 00:52:23.227 So the leadership have had enough of you? 226 00:52:24.908 --> 00:52:27.031 In the ideal world, 227 00:52:27.160 --> 00:52:30.363 we'd be fighting our battles independently, but we're tied. 228 00:52:30.497 --> 00:52:33.700 Nothing's changed in here. The leadership are stuck with us 229 00:52:33.833 --> 00:52:38.080 until there's some realistic chance of political status, that's the hard truth. 230 00:52:38.212 --> 00:52:41.462 See, to get me to negotiate with these lying, reneging monkeys 231 00:52:41.591 --> 00:52:44.212 when there's never nothing on the table, it's pure crap. 232 00:52:44.343 --> 00:52:46.383 I'm not gonna be marched into this Governor's office 233 00:52:46.512 --> 00:52:50.260 and get caught up in some pointless dialogue with that pompous bastard. 234 00:52:50.390 --> 00:52:53.391 - Well, he's a big fan of yours. - Thick as two short planks. 235 00:52:53.518 --> 00:52:56.519 Can you believe they made him Governor? Bloody insult to humanity! 236 00:52:56.646 --> 00:52:59.316 Mother of Jesus, where do you get your energy from? 237 00:53:00.442 --> 00:53:02.518 I was a cross-country runner as a boy. 238 00:53:03.236 --> 00:53:06.071 I could have guessed it. Big engine on you. 239 00:53:06.781 --> 00:53:11.775 Cross-country running. Explains a lot about you, Bobby. 240 00:53:11.911 --> 00:53:15.445 Why, I loved it, so I did. That's the whole country thing for me. 241 00:53:15.581 --> 00:53:19.495 Jesus, they to hold me back at the finishing line or I'd keep on running. 242 00:53:19.626 --> 00:53:22.461 Little scraps. We were mongrels from out of the city. 243 00:53:22.587 --> 00:53:25.125 Frightened of cattle and all. It was a funny time. 244 00:53:25.257 --> 00:53:27.878 - Frightened of cattle? - Aye, terrified of them. 245 00:53:28.009 --> 00:53:32.256 Think you could get milk and burgers from them monsters? Jesus Christ! 246 00:53:34.974 --> 00:53:38.758 The next time round I'll be born in the countryside. Guaranteed. 247 00:53:38.894 --> 00:53:40.970 Wildlife. Birds. 248 00:53:41.105 --> 00:53:43.347 I love all that. Paradise. 249 00:53:43.482 --> 00:53:47.100 Aye, and you could learn to relax, too. 250 00:53:47.236 --> 00:53:50.071 Aye. Maybe. You never know. 251 00:53:50.197 --> 00:53:52.320 Never tried it before. 252 00:53:53.533 --> 00:53:56.368 I'm starting a hunger strike on the first of March. 253 00:53:58.371 --> 00:54:01.372 That's why you're here. That's what I'm telling you. 254 00:54:01.499 --> 00:54:03.788 Aye. I heard that. 255 00:54:07.463 --> 00:54:10.547 - Does your family know? - I got word out to them, aye. 256 00:54:10.674 --> 00:54:14.173 - Have you spoken with them? - Got a visit in two weeks. Talk then. 257 00:54:14.303 --> 00:54:19.095 - How do you think they'll take it? - What do you think, Dom? 258 00:54:19.224 --> 00:54:21.263 And your wee boy? 259 00:54:39.743 --> 00:54:43.408 So, what makes it different from the last time? 260 00:54:45.540 --> 00:54:48.909 The last hunger strike was flawed. It became emotional. 261 00:54:49.044 --> 00:54:51.285 Seven men started at the same time. 262 00:54:51.421 --> 00:54:53.828 They got weak and couldn't let the weakest die, 263 00:54:53.965 --> 00:54:57.665 which left us susceptible to be conned by the Brits, and that's what we were. 264 00:54:57.802 --> 00:54:59.213 Conned. 265 00:54:59.345 --> 00:55:02.714 This time out, the men will start consecutively, two weeks apart. 266 00:55:02.848 --> 00:55:04.757 Somebody dies, they'll be replaced. 267 00:55:04.892 --> 00:55:07.976 There's no shortage of us. Seventy-five men have signed up. 268 00:55:08.103 --> 00:55:10.345 Oh, for Christ's sake... 269 00:55:10.481 --> 00:55:12.971 The announcement's being made today. 270 00:55:16.194 --> 00:55:20.772 So what makes this protest different is that you're set to die, Bobby? 271 00:55:20.907 --> 00:55:22.864 It may well come to that. 272 00:55:22.992 --> 00:55:26.076 You start a hunger strike to protest for what you believe in. 273 00:55:26.204 --> 00:55:30.367 You don't start already determined to die, or am I missing something here? 274 00:55:30.499 --> 00:55:35.457 It's in their hands. Our message is clear. They're seeing our determination. 275 00:55:35.587 --> 00:55:38.837 So it'll take a couple of deaths, do you think? Maybe five or six? 276 00:55:38.966 --> 00:55:41.005 But sure, there's seventy-five of you. 277 00:55:41.134 --> 00:55:43.210 Aye well, it won't come to that. 278 00:55:43.345 --> 00:55:46.879 All right, maybe the Brits will buckle after twenty or so. 279 00:55:47.015 --> 00:55:50.300 But why should you care, cos you're already dead, right? 280 00:55:59.944 --> 00:56:03.443 Have you thought about what you'll put these boys through? 281 00:56:03.572 --> 00:56:06.941 Putting aside what's going to happen to these poor men's families. 282 00:56:07.075 --> 00:56:10.824 You're up against a British government who clearly despises Republicanism, 283 00:56:10.954 --> 00:56:12.863 who are unshakable. 284 00:56:12.998 --> 00:56:16.449 Who can easily live with the deaths of what they call terrorists. 285 00:56:16.584 --> 00:56:18.541 The stakes are much higher this time. 286 00:56:18.670 --> 00:56:20.080 I know that. 287 00:56:20.213 --> 00:56:23.996 And if you're not willing to negotiate, you want them to capitulate? 288 00:56:24.133 --> 00:56:27.502 - Right. - So failure means many dead men. 289 00:56:27.636 --> 00:56:29.676 Families torn apart. 290 00:56:29.805 --> 00:56:32.047 And the whole Republican Movement demoralised. 291 00:56:32.182 --> 00:56:37.177 Worse case scenario, it might well mean all that. But short term, out of the ashes. 292 00:56:37.312 --> 00:56:41.357 Guaranteed there'll be a new generation, even more resilient, determined... 293 00:56:41.483 --> 00:56:43.559 - Look who you're talking to. - There's a war going on. 294 00:56:43.693 --> 00:56:46.184 I thought you might understand. You're talking like a foreigner. 295 00:56:46.321 --> 00:56:48.858 You're talking to me like one. You think I don't know Northern Ireland? 296 00:56:48.990 --> 00:56:50.899 - I live here, man. - Then support us. 297 00:56:51.033 --> 00:56:55.327 I supported the first hunger strike on the basis it was a protest. 298 00:56:55.454 --> 00:56:58.788 Not some predesign to die and balk at negotiation, 299 00:56:58.916 --> 00:57:02.960 other than surrender from Thatcher. That's ridiculous, Bobby, it's destructive. 300 00:57:03.086 --> 00:57:07.131 What's happening here for the last four years? The brutality, humiliation. 301 00:57:07.257 --> 00:57:10.341 Our basic human rights taken away. All of this has to stop. 302 00:57:10.468 --> 00:57:12.176 Through talking. 303 00:57:12.303 --> 00:57:15.968 So what? We take their offer, put their uniform on? 304 00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:18.471 Cos the last four years have meant nothing? 305 00:57:18.601 --> 00:57:22.100 We could do that, Dom, or we could behave like the army we proclaim to be 306 00:57:22.229 --> 00:57:24.269 and lay down our lives for our comrades. 307 00:57:24.398 --> 00:57:26.936 Is there not even a small part of you hoping for a breakthrough? 308 00:57:27.067 --> 00:57:29.060 That could find you negotiating again? 309 00:57:29.194 --> 00:57:31.685 - That won't happen. - Right, forget about that. 310 00:57:31.822 --> 00:57:35.950 I want to know whether your intent is just purely to commit suicide here. 311 00:57:39.954 --> 00:57:42.991 You want me to argue about the morality of what I'm about to do 312 00:57:43.124 --> 00:57:46.659 and whether it's really suicide or not? 313 00:57:46.794 --> 00:57:49.665 For one, you're calling it suicide. I call it murder. 314 00:57:49.797 --> 00:57:52.086 And that's just another wee difference between us. 315 00:57:52.216 --> 00:57:54.458 We're both Catholic men. Republicans. 316 00:57:54.593 --> 00:57:56.882 But while you were poaching salmon in lovely Kilrea, 317 00:57:57.012 --> 00:57:58.921 we were being burnt out of our house in Rathcoole. 318 00:57:59.056 --> 00:58:03.005 Similar in many ways, but experiences focussed our beliefs differently. 319 00:58:03.143 --> 00:58:04.851 - Understand me? - I understand. 320 00:58:04.978 --> 00:58:08.892 I have my belief. And in all its simplicity that is a most powerful thing. 321 00:58:10.858 --> 00:58:13.396 So, what's your statement by dying? 322 00:58:14.612 --> 00:58:17.815 Just highlighting British intransigence, so fucking what? 323 00:58:17.948 --> 00:58:19.822 Everyone knows what the Brits are like. 324 00:58:19.950 --> 00:58:22.951 - Good. - It is good and nothing to do with you. 325 00:58:23.078 --> 00:58:25.651 The Brits have been fucking up everything for centuries. 326 00:58:25.789 --> 00:58:27.449 I can feel your hatred, Dom. 327 00:58:27.582 --> 00:58:29.789 - Are you looking for martyrdom? - No. 328 00:58:29.918 --> 00:58:31.412 - Are you sure? - Aye. 329 00:58:31.545 --> 00:58:35.672 Cos I've heard you eulogising Wolfe Tone, Connolly, MacSwiney... 330 00:58:35.799 --> 00:58:39.463 I can't help think you're writing your name for all them history books. 331 00:58:39.594 --> 00:58:42.085 - Cos you think that matters to me? - I know it does. 332 00:58:42.221 --> 00:58:44.380 Well, you're wrong. 333 00:58:45.641 --> 00:58:50.682 You say you're soldiers, it's all about the freedom. 334 00:58:50.813 --> 00:58:53.849 But you've got no appreciation of a life, Bobby. 335 00:58:53.982 --> 00:58:57.066 You no longer know what a life is, you men. 336 00:58:57.194 --> 00:59:00.812 Four years living in these conditions, no one expects you to be normal. 337 00:59:00.947 --> 00:59:03.272 There's nothing normal about you. 338 00:59:04.701 --> 00:59:08.401 Right now, the Republican Movement has talked itself into a corner. 339 00:59:08.538 --> 00:59:12.535 You IRA are standing right behind it looking into that corner. 340 00:59:12.667 --> 00:59:17.245 All that history, all them dead men and women. You're still seeing nothing. 341 00:59:17.379 --> 00:59:20.713 When your answer's to kill everything, you've blinded yourselves 342 00:59:20.841 --> 00:59:23.758 and you're scared to stop it. 343 00:59:24.720 --> 00:59:27.886 Afraid of living. Afraid of talk and peace. 344 00:59:28.014 --> 00:59:32.012 Sure, what would Ulster be if it wasn't tearing itself to shit? 345 00:59:33.186 --> 00:59:35.309 And this situation here. 346 00:59:35.438 --> 00:59:39.020 That the future of the Republican Movement is in the hands of you men 347 00:59:39.150 --> 00:59:42.186 who've lost all... all sense of reality. 348 00:59:43.487 --> 00:59:46.690 You think your head's on right? 349 00:59:46.824 --> 00:59:49.741 Locked up in here twenty-four hours a day in piss and shit, 350 00:59:49.868 --> 00:59:52.952 and you are making decisions that could see so many men die. 351 00:59:53.080 --> 00:59:55.617 Build a statue to Bobby Sands! 352 00:59:55.749 --> 00:59:58.418 You're joking me. Freedom Fighter? 353 00:59:59.669 --> 01:00:03.038 They're the men and women working out there in the community. 354 01:00:03.172 --> 01:00:06.209 And that was you, once upon a time, am I right? 355 01:00:06.342 --> 01:00:09.129 All that work you did in Twinbrook. 356 01:00:09.261 --> 01:00:13.306 That's where we need you, Bobby. And you know I'm right. 357 01:00:14.767 --> 01:00:17.767 That I'm deluded... you want me to answer that? 358 01:00:17.894 --> 01:00:19.934 They're beating you. You're playing into their hands. 359 01:00:20.063 --> 01:00:23.349 - The strategy's in place. - Then stop it. Just say stop. 360 01:00:23.483 --> 01:00:27.267 - You don't understand a thing. - You're in no shape to make this call. 361 01:00:27.403 --> 01:00:30.025 It's done. It won't be stopped. 362 01:00:30.156 --> 01:00:33.240 Then fuck it, life must mean nothing to you. 363 01:00:34.619 --> 01:00:37.192 God's going to punish me? 364 01:00:42.584 --> 01:00:48.041 Well, if not just for the suicide, then he'd have to punish you for stupidity. 365 01:00:50.175 --> 01:00:54.089 Aye. And you for your arrogance. 366 01:00:54.220 --> 01:00:58.004 Cos my life is a real life, not some theological exercise, 367 01:00:58.141 --> 01:01:01.924 some religious trick that's got fuck all to do with living. 368 01:01:02.061 --> 01:01:06.189 Jesus Christ had a backbone, but see them disciples, every disciple since, 369 01:01:06.315 --> 01:01:10.099 you're just jumping in and out of the rhetoric and dead-end semantics. 370 01:01:10.235 --> 01:01:14.944 You need the revolutionary, the political soldier, to give life a pulse, direction... 371 01:01:15.073 --> 01:01:18.240 - That's stupid talk. You're deluded. - Aye, so you say. 372 01:01:18.368 --> 01:01:21.322 - And what's your wee son going to say? - Fuck off. 373 01:01:21.454 --> 01:01:23.281 Doesn't that interest you? 374 01:01:23.414 --> 01:01:27.032 You're going to attack me with sentiment? Typical priest. 375 01:01:27.168 --> 01:01:29.741 - What's your heart saying? - I thought you'd me all figured out. 376 01:01:29.879 --> 01:01:32.251 What's it saying? Tell me. 377 01:01:36.302 --> 01:01:40.216 My life means everything to me. Freedom means everything. 378 01:01:40.347 --> 01:01:43.882 I know you don't mean to mock me, Dom, so I'll just let all that pass. 379 01:01:45.310 --> 01:01:48.145 This is one of these times when we've come to a pause. 380 01:01:48.271 --> 01:01:50.643 It's a time to keep your beliefs pure. 381 01:01:50.773 --> 01:01:54.308 I believe that a united Ireland is right and just. 382 01:01:55.611 --> 01:01:58.945 Maybe it's impossible for a man like you to understand, 383 01:01:59.073 --> 01:02:02.489 but having a respect for my life, a desire for freedom, 384 01:02:02.618 --> 01:02:05.287 an unyielding love for that belief, 385 01:02:05.412 --> 01:02:08.366 means I can see past any doubts I may have. 386 01:02:09.750 --> 01:02:13.165 Putting my life on the line is not just the only thing I can do, Dom. 387 01:02:13.295 --> 01:02:15.702 It's the right thing. 388 01:02:20.051 --> 01:02:22.257 And this is why you've called me here? 389 01:02:23.554 --> 01:02:27.303 Needed a sounding board? Not a hundred per cent sure of yourself? 390 01:02:27.433 --> 01:02:29.390 Been doubting yourself maybe? 391 01:02:29.518 --> 01:02:32.638 Aye. Well, I'm only human. 392 01:02:32.771 --> 01:02:35.523 And I've made it clear for you, then? 393 01:02:37.234 --> 01:02:41.314 Man of guidance, Dom, "business of the soul". 394 01:02:52.456 --> 01:02:55.576 You've been to Gweedore in Donegal? 395 01:02:56.669 --> 01:02:58.163 Aye. 396 01:03:05.969 --> 01:03:08.175 I went there when I was twelve. 397 01:03:10.181 --> 01:03:12.423 Big cross-country race for the boys, 398 01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:16.639 and we're all in the back of a minibus headed towards Derry one morning. 399 01:03:17.897 --> 01:03:20.139 I mean, this is big time. 400 01:03:20.274 --> 01:03:22.397 This is like international athletics for us, 401 01:03:22.526 --> 01:03:25.611 cos we're racing against boys in the South 402 01:03:25.738 --> 01:03:28.407 and we have this thing to do Belfast proud. 403 01:03:30.367 --> 01:03:34.412 Two of the boys are Prods and the rest of us are Catholics. 404 01:03:34.538 --> 01:03:36.863 It's a cross-community event. 405 01:03:36.998 --> 01:03:40.248 I suppose the good people in the South think this is great stuff, 406 01:03:40.377 --> 01:03:44.421 let's get this wee team over from Belfast and all that patronising shite. 407 01:03:47.341 --> 01:03:51.255 Anyway, we're through the border... 408 01:03:53.514 --> 01:03:56.349 ...the boys are all singing pop tunes and all, 409 01:03:56.475 --> 01:03:59.891 but I'm just in the back of the bus looking out the window. 410 01:04:01.813 --> 01:04:03.972 We're going through them mountains, 411 01:04:04.107 --> 01:04:06.859 you know, where Mount Errigal is and everything? 412 01:04:08.153 --> 01:04:10.275 It's a beautiful sight, Dom. 413 01:04:11.489 --> 01:04:14.822 Donegal has to be the most beautiful place in Ireland, I reckon. 414 01:04:16.410 --> 01:04:18.154 Aye. 415 01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:25.870 Anyway... 416 01:04:28.130 --> 01:04:29.873 ...we arrive at Gweedore. 417 01:04:31.174 --> 01:04:34.460 What a place. And it's hopping with about two hundred boys 418 01:04:34.594 --> 01:04:37.714 and they're getting into their gear and limbering up. 419 01:04:38.348 --> 01:04:40.803 The whole event is run by Christian brothers 420 01:04:40.933 --> 01:04:43.720 and they're clipping young fellas around the ears, 421 01:04:43.853 --> 01:04:46.308 basically trying to retain some order. 422 01:04:47.356 --> 01:04:50.689 Our team goes off for a wee jog to stretch out the legs. 423 01:04:53.195 --> 01:04:55.484 We're surrounded by fields of barley... 424 01:04:57.616 --> 01:05:01.613 ...and they dip down into a wee valley where there's a stream and woods. 425 01:05:05.415 --> 01:05:07.621 The woods and stream are out of bounds, 426 01:05:07.750 --> 01:05:11.201 so naturally us Belfast boys have to go check them out. 427 01:05:11.337 --> 01:05:14.457 Woods and a stream, Dom. Sure, that's like the Amazon to us. 428 01:05:16.467 --> 01:05:19.633 And we come across these young fellas from Cork. 429 01:05:19.762 --> 01:05:23.427 There's some banter about our accents but they could barely talk, 430 01:05:23.557 --> 01:05:26.130 we couldn't understand a word they were saying. 431 01:05:26.977 --> 01:05:29.977 You get the idea that they're lording it over us a bit, you know? 432 01:05:30.105 --> 01:05:33.022 Looking down on us. I'm sensing it anyway. 433 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.437 We're running along and we come up with this idea 434 01:05:37.570 --> 01:05:41.614 to go down to the stream and check it out for fish. 435 01:05:41.741 --> 01:05:44.410 So we're down by the river, Dom... stream... 436 01:05:44.535 --> 01:05:47.156 ...it was half a foot of water in there. 437 01:05:47.287 --> 01:05:49.957 Little silver fish but nothing substantial. 438 01:05:50.082 --> 01:05:52.952 Until one of their boys call us further down. 439 01:05:54.753 --> 01:05:56.911 Lying in the water is a wee foal, 440 01:05:57.964 --> 01:06:00.918 four or five days old, he's all skin and bone, 441 01:06:01.050 --> 01:06:04.668 a grey colour, and he's got flecks of blood on his coat 442 01:06:04.804 --> 01:06:07.970 cos he's cut himself up really badly on the sharp rocks. 443 01:06:10.935 --> 01:06:14.553 We're just standing over him, and you can see his back leg snapped. 444 01:06:14.688 --> 01:06:17.974 And he's breathing, he's alive, but just about. 445 01:06:20.235 --> 01:06:22.691 So this big conversation gets started up 446 01:06:22.821 --> 01:06:26.106 between the boys who suddenly reckon themselves the leaders. 447 01:06:26.241 --> 01:06:30.190 They're deliberating what we should do. Someone says drop a rock on his head. 448 01:06:30.328 --> 01:06:34.372 But I'm looking in their faces. I can see they're either scared stiff or clueless. 449 01:06:34.499 --> 01:06:36.158 It's all bravado. 450 01:06:37.168 --> 01:06:40.204 And this foal on the ground, in real pain. 451 01:06:41.338 --> 01:06:43.960 All this chitchat going on, going nowhere. 452 01:06:46.051 --> 01:06:49.467 Next thing, one of the priests sees us, sees the foal, 453 01:06:49.596 --> 01:06:52.597 tells us not to move and we're done for, really done for. 454 01:06:52.724 --> 01:06:55.393 A group of boys will always get the blame for hurting a foal. 455 01:06:55.518 --> 01:06:58.685 A group of Belfast boys will get a hammering for sure. 456 01:06:58.813 --> 01:07:01.600 So it's clear to me in an instant, and I'm on my knees 457 01:07:01.732 --> 01:07:05.232 and I take the foal's head in my hands and I put him under water. 458 01:07:05.361 --> 01:07:07.318 He's thrashing around a bit to start, 459 01:07:07.446 --> 01:07:10.067 so I press down harder until he's drowned. 460 01:07:12.576 --> 01:07:15.281 Priest arrives, Dom. 461 01:07:15.412 --> 01:07:17.203 And he's grabbing me by the hair, 462 01:07:17.330 --> 01:07:20.830 dragging me through the woods, promising me a proper hiding. 463 01:07:20.959 --> 01:07:23.876 But I knew I did the right thing by that wee foal. 464 01:07:25.088 --> 01:07:27.626 And I could take the punishment for all our boys. 465 01:07:28.966 --> 01:07:32.750 I had the respect of them other boys now and I knew that. 466 01:07:39.393 --> 01:07:41.551 I'm clear of the reasons, Dom. 467 01:07:42.729 --> 01:07:45.849 I'm clear of all the repercussions. 468 01:07:45.982 --> 01:07:50.311 I will act and I will not stand by and do nothing. 469 01:08:27.897 --> 01:08:30.055 You can leave them there if you like. 470 01:08:30.983 --> 01:08:34.352 Don't want me rolling up the Letters of Saint John, do you? 471 01:08:39.366 --> 01:08:42.367 Couldn't have that on my conscience, no. 472 01:08:50.043 --> 01:08:52.712 I don't think I'm going to see you again, Bobby. 473 01:08:54.463 --> 01:08:56.670 There's no need, Dom. 474 01:12:32.502 --> 01:12:37.080 'And faced now with the failure of their discredited cause, 475 01:12:37.215 --> 01:12:40.998 'the men of violence have chosen, in recent months, 476 01:12:41.135 --> 01:12:44.883 'to play what may well be their last card. 477 01:12:45.973 --> 01:12:49.092 'They have turned their violence against themselves 478 01:12:49.226 --> 01:12:53.437 'through the prison hunger strike to death. 479 01:12:53.563 --> 01:12:59.648 'They seek to work on the most basic of human emotions, pity, 480 01:12:59.777 --> 01:13:02.482 'as a means of creating tension 481 01:13:02.613 --> 01:13:06.611 'and stoking the fires of bitterness and hatred. ' 482 01:13:38.188 --> 01:13:43.265 There's been a deterioration of liver, kidney and pancreatic function. 483 01:13:44.361 --> 01:13:46.934 Also the bone density decreases substantially 484 01:13:47.072 --> 01:13:49.823 due to calcium and vitamin deficiencies. 485 01:13:52.494 --> 01:13:55.411 The muscle of the heart is also undernourished, 486 01:13:55.538 --> 01:13:59.405 causing impaired function and eventually cardiac failure. 487 01:14:05.172 --> 01:14:09.335 The left ventricle could shrink to seventy percent of its normal size. 488 01:14:11.970 --> 01:14:15.968 He will have low blood sugar, low energy and muscular wasting. 489 01:14:18.310 --> 01:14:21.346 He'll be experiencing gastrointestinal ulcers 490 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:25.690 with the thinning of the intestinal wall and sub-mucosal haemorrhaging. 491 01:14:27.485 --> 01:14:30.936 There will have been degenerative changes to the mucous membrane 492 01:14:31.072 --> 01:14:34.772 of the intestines and indeed all the organs in the body. 493 01:25:06.878 --> 01:25:10.044 - Name? - Rosaleen Sands. 494 01:25:13.509 --> 01:25:16.712 - Name? - John Sands. 495 01:27:30.805 --> 01:27:34.423 People always ask us, people always ask us 496 01:27:34.558 --> 01:27:38.306 - Who we are... - Bobby! Bobby! 497 01:27:38.437 --> 01:27:42.304 And where we come from, where we come from 498 01:27:42.440 --> 01:27:46.189 And we tell them, and we tell them 499 01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:49.854 We're from Belfast, we're from Belfast 500 01:27:49.989 --> 01:27:53.607 Mighty, mighty Belfast, mighty, mighty Belfast 501 01:27:53.743 --> 01:27:57.408 And if they can't hear us, if they can't hear us 502 01:27:57.538 --> 01:28:01.203 We shout a little louder, we shout a little louder...