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This is a show trial,
and we're gonna show all that in there.
All lies, all lies. This is a kangaroo court,
this is political action, it's a witch hunt.
I'll be back later.
It's about the damage that was done to me.
Jones was repeating these lies.
I was accused of being part of a government conspiracy.
None of it's true.
All I did was lose my son.
He was brutally murdered and shot and killed
in his first-grade classroom.
And I have to deal with this abuse
by a loudmouth with a blowhorn?
All rise.
459th District Court is now in session.
The Honorable Judge Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.
Alex Jones chose to continue to seed
and perpetrate lies that Sandy Hook never happened.
Making shit up.
I mean, it's-- it's fake.
I... The whole thing is just...
That's how Alex Jones runs his empire,
and I think that that needs to be stopped.
This is Neil and Scarlett.
Mr. Jones has robbed Neil and Scarlett
of the time they needed to heal
over the violent death of their son, Jesse.
People thought of Infowars as a fringe organization.
But at the height of its powers,
more people were watching Infowars
at any given time than CNN.
What you have to remember is that Mr. Jones for ten years
intentionally lied that the shooting was fake
or a government-led plot.
This is the most egregious case of defamation
in American history.
Mr. Jones has been canceled.
And I believe in every American's right
to choose what they listen to and what they believe.
It's got to be known that Alex Jones is a liar.
If it came to a knock-down, drag-out fight
in the Travis County Courthouse, that's what it's gonna be.
I do.
Alex Jones will meet me face to face.
Hello, Austin, Texas. I'm Alex Jones,
and you're watching Exposing Mass Media.
That's what we've got to talk about.
I've got quite a few programs that you'll see live
here on Austin Community Access Centre.
The simple way the world works, okay?
We always looked up to him.
The guy that started out, you know, 22 years old
in public access television.
When I fear something, I go after it!
Makeup, lovey, makeup.
Public Access in Austin
is a bit of a cultural phenomenon unto itself,
and it's one of the oldest in the country.
You know, there was a lot of freedom
to the programming that was available,
but it was shared all over the US.
You're on the air.
There was guys that would come on there
and talk about serious political issues
with a toilet bowl ring wrapped around their neck.
Now, there's somebody a lot smarter than I am, see?
I wouldn't say in all of it being conspiratorial,
but it was a very free-thinking forum.
Hail Satan.
Righteously, mother--
I come on public access and hang out.
I'm on 24 hours a day, they say.
Yeah, very-- pretty close.
Well, I can assure you I don't make any money
off public access.
But Alex eventually stood out as he got thicker skin.
It hasn't stopped!
His ability to capture that audience, it's impressive.
You watched because you didn't know
what the guy was gonna say next. You didn't know.
We love you, we're the government.
That's what scares me.
We're smiling-faced bureaucrats. Ooh!
He was fucking hilarious, man.
He would rant and rave,
and there'd be times when he'd blow up
and get red faced and started spitting.
It was absolutely hilarious, entertaining as hell.
I'm sorry for you.
The thing that really caught my attention
was when he was pointing out that there was fluoride
in the baby water.
'Cause he's like, "Oh, they're putting fluoride,
the poison into the baby water. Oh! Just for the baby."
He'd do his entire antics. And it caught my attention.
I was like, "Yeah, why are they putting fluoride
in the baby water?"
I don't want to see the baby get poisoned, you know.
It's hard to be an awake person.
I was totally hooked.
Look at this.
My friend leaned over to me, and he was like,
"You know, if you've ever looked at your toothpaste,
and it says, if you swallow more than a pea-sized amount,
call Poison Control.
Why do you think they put that in the water supply?"
"No idea, I don't know."
And he's like, "Well, it's mind control."
We have been predicting
this nightmarish development
for years.
Either the government actually carried out
this bombing themselves,
or, ladies and gentlemen, they allowed terrorists
to engage in this sinister activity.
He started getting a following.
And I think after 9/11,
his-- his listenership and audience grew.
Look at that, ladies and gentlemen.
Look at it drop from demolitions in the bottom.
He'd gone from local broadcast
to national broadcast.
He became four hours a day, six days a week.
There was never a...
"Hey, here's the production meeting
in the morning."
It was as organic as you could get.
I came in, two, three hours before everyone else,
and started printing news stories.
There was one stack that was the juice.
Boom. And he would just freeform.
Here's the headline.
"Fukushima radioactive wave has already hit California."
It's taken two plus years for that to get here.
I mean, it was like that with him.
He got an idea, and he wanted you
to go do it right then.
It was, "You're going to drive
all along the coast of California and do a reading.
And post a video, immediately."
They're doing their various readings at this moment.
And from what I'm told,
Adan, we still have 15 microrems, is that correct?
We found, specifically,
that there were not high radiation levels.
We get a call and they're like, "Jones is furious.
Stop posting these videos saying that
there aren't high levels of radiation in California."
Radiation levels have more than doubled
in the last 60 years and...
Jones started selling
his first privately labeled supplement.
Infowars Life, which was an iodine supplement.
Talking about Fukushima, I realized in the last segment
that I've only taken it this morning,
I take it twice a day as recommended.
He somehow turned some geopolitical story
into a need for a supplement.
When Jones started getting so mad at us
for posting those videos,
it was, "Oh, okay.
We did come here to sell a product."
The government will not tell you
that during increased radiation levels,
you need more iodine to protect the thyroid.
They will not tell you this.
Did we think he wanted us to lie?
Yeah, it was obvious.
On that Friday morning,
I hear little footsteps running up behind me.
And it's little Daniel.
We got on this couch right behind me here, and...
I said, "You know, it's not even daylight yet.
You have time if you wanna go back to bed
and sleep a little more."
And he said, "No, Dad, let's cuddle on the couch.
We'll have time for cuddling this way."
And Daniel says, "Dad, look at how you can see
the reflection of our Christmas tree lights
in the window with that beautiful sunrise behind it."
So, I said, "You know what? You're right,
I'm going to go get the camera."
I have a picture of that sunrise that morning
with the Christmas tree lights reflecting in the window.
And I really wish I'd turned the camera round
and taken a picture of him.
For our church, we were preparing for this
big Christmas party that we were having,
and they were doing this nativity scene.
And Emilie was going to be an angel at this nativity scene.
She was awake and she was sitting on the edge of her bed
waiting for seven o'clock to happen.
I got a chance to just sit next to her
and give her a hug and tell her how much I loved her,
and that wasn't something that I got to do very often
before I went to work.
"Come on, Jess. We gotta get up
and get ready to go to school."
He got up and, um...
was poking around, poking along, dogging along.
And my mind was contemplating
whether to send him to school that day.
But it was class project day.
We were each going to make a gingerbread house.
The only reason I think I sent him was because
we were supposed to make those stupid gingerbread houses.
I really-- I think often about that.
And I walked him into the school.
He was holding my hand
and he darted into the classroom.
And that was the last I saw him. Alive, anyway.
Forty-five minutes later,
we started to get the text messages.
Unfortunately, sometimes,
when evil walks in your door,
and you only have a short amount of time,
there wasn't much that they could do.
His first shooting is the eight rounds
that he shoots through that window
at the front of the building.
He then makes entrance into the lobby.
Upon hearing the commotion, the school principal,
Dawn Hochsprung, gets up and heads to the door.
She tells her people to stay put,
uh, but they don't listen to her, right.
Mary Sherlach, the psychologist, is actually right on her heels.
And they start to make their way down the hallway
towards the lobby, when they're shot and killed.
Newtown 911, what's the location of your emergency?
Sandy Hook school. I think somebody's got a gun.
I caught a glimpse of somebody.
They're running down the hallway.
The first 911 call,
I estimate that that's probably about a minute and a half
after the shooting actually begins.
We're in the classroom,
and my children are just scared, and we wanted to know an update.
He continues down the hallway,
and I believe that the first room that he goes into
is classroom ten.
And some of them start to react and move.
It's more difficult than it looks like
to actually shoot somebody,
especially somebody that's moving.
There are several students that are able to escape
from that room.
In each one of these classrooms there's a small bathroom,
and two of the students actually take up hiding in the bathroom.
He shoots and kills the teacher, Victoria Soto,
and the teacher's aide, Anne Marie Murphy.
Uh, Anne Marie was still clutching the student
that she took care of, Dylan Hockley,
who was also killed.
And he also killed Jesse Lewis, Avielle Richman,
Allison Wyatt, and Olivia Engel.
I then believe that he leaves classroom ten
and goes into classroom eight.
And again, now by this time,
this classroom has the ability to have reacted,
to gather into what they believe would be a safe location.
In this case, they've chosen that very small bathroom
that's in the far-left corner of their classroom.
All the kids are able to get into that bathroom,
but the two adults aren't
and they're standing just outside.
And when he walks in there,
he shoots and kills the substitute teacher,
Lauren Rousseau,
and the behavior specialist that was in that room,
Rachel D'Avino.
They both gave their lives trying to protect those kids.
And he also kills Daniel Barden, Charlotte Bacon,
Josephine Gay, Madeleine Hsu,
Catherine Hubbard, Chase Kowalski,
James Mattioli, Ana Marquez-Greene,
Grace McDonnell, Jack Pinto,
Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi,
Emilie Parker, Jessica Rekos,
and Benjamin Wheeler.
There's... There's one survivor
in that group of kids that are in the bathroom,
and she just, miraculously, was not struck.
I believe in that room he fires about 80 rounds.
They're aimed shots at extremely close range.
He's squeezing the trigger rapidly.
Then I believe that he actually then walks back
to classroom ten.
He's fired two rounds with the 10mm,
one goes up into the ceiling and he puts the suicide shot
into his head.
From when he starts shooting to when he commits suicide,
the whole incident ends up being about six minutes.
Good morning.
Uh, this message is for Sandy Hook parents only.
At this time, if you have not already done so,
you may go to the Sandy Hook firehouse
and pick up your child.
All other Newtown schools remain in lockdown.
Thank you.
Nothing can ever happen to your child...
so I really wasn't even that worried, frankly.
I walked to the firehouse first.
And then, by that time, Scarlett had gotten there
and we-- we still couldn't find Jesse.
I walked up to somebody
official-looking in a uniform,
and I said, "I'm looking for my son, Jesse Lewis."
They said, "If you can't find him,
put his name down on a list."
There was a long list,
and never in a million years did I think
that all of those people were dead.
A police officer walked up to me and said,
"Did Jesse have any identifying marks on his body?"
And... he did.
He had a little mole on the top of his right foot.
So, I thought to myself...
"That's not a good sign."
And it must have been around three o'clock,
I remember Governor Malloy getting up, making a speech.
I remember speaking up, saying,
"Are there any survivors left in the school?
Is anybody alive that is missing?"
And he didn't answer the question,
and I asked it a couple of times
and he finally said-- put his head down
and said, "No, there's no survivors."
I was able to see him before we cremated him.
And they instructed me,
you know, um, "Don't touch him except for his hands
because you won't like what you feel."
He was, um, in the arms of Anne Marie,
his special education assistant.
They said the way that their bodies were found,
him on his back with the knees and her arms around him,
that she had been trying to protect him.
I know from the autopsy report
that some of, um, the fragments from her body
were actually lodged into his,
because of the impact of the bullets.
I held his hand for hours...
until it got warm.
It-- it almost felt like a live hand,
and I looked at the fingernails,
and the fingernails still had dirt...
...under them.
He was in the funeral home.
His face was, um, covered with a cloth
from his nose down.
We were told that he has an injury there,
and it's better to keep a cloth over his mouth.
I kissed his forehead, and it was very cold,
and not the same sensation
as the thousands of times
I've kissed him on his forehead,
so it was... um...
very shocking.
...defeated the Goblin,
and the Goblin was still...
he was fighting back and still alive...
He had just turned six, and, um...
I would hear him.
I would see him out of the corner of my eye,
but he was never really there.
And I just kind of willed myself
to see him running in the snow
with his jacket on, coming towards the house...
...and telling me that he had gotten away...
from the shooter.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday.
Thank you so much for joining us the 14th day
of December 2012,
and there is a reported school shooting in Connecticut,
one of the states that has draconian restrictions
on gun ownership.
Mr. Jones, I want to show you some video clips
of some things you were saying as news broke of Sandy Hook.
And in a video that day that you titled
"Connecticut School Massacre Looks Like False Flag,
Says Witnesses."
Can you play the clip "Day of Sandy Hook"?
And I said, "They are going to come after our guns,
look for mass shootings,"
and then magically it happens.
They are coming. They are coming.
You were the first person in the world
to make the false flag theory about Sandy Hook,
and you did it before the bodies were even cold.
That's the truth.
-Objection. - No, it's not true.
This is staged.
And you know I've been saying the last few months,
get ready for big mass shootings.
From the very beginning,
Sandy Hook parents have been asking you
to leave them alone, right?
I don't remember that from the very beginning, no.
Okay.
It's just weird as a human being
to be in a position where you feel like
you have zero hope for anything anymore.
I just didn't know how to respond,
we didn't know how to react.
Within hours, on the first night,
I remember getting phone calls from reporters,
and so I turned my phone off.
But I keep getting calls.
And so, I decided that they weren't going to stop
until they found somebody to talk to.
And so, I decided that the best thing to do
was for me to give a statement,
because I figured if I gave them something
that they could chew on for a while,
then they would leave us alone.
The shooting was on Friday.
Saturday evening, I gave the statement.
I'd never done something like this.
All these bright lights are on me,
and I can't see anybody,
and I just was kind of confused and nervous,
and just kind of gave this laugh, like,
"I don't know what to do here."
So, I've never done this before.
Do you guys just want me to start?
-Yeah. - Okay.
So, my name's Robbie Parker.
My family is one of the families that lost a child yesterday
in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings
here in Connecticut.
I just wanted to share about who my daughter was.
I had prepared something that I wanted to share,
and so... I shared it.
Emilie was bright, creative, and very loving.
Emilie was always willing to try new things,
other than food.
There was no way I could have done that.
It was really hard for him to do that.
And he did it because of her, because he was her father.
He wanted the world to know
that she was not just this victim,
that she was this amazing kid.
That's when our world turned upside down again.
We're going to, um...
play a clip from a CNN press conference
with Robbie Parker.
It started... Yeah, it started less than
48 hours after the shooting,
and then it just grew exponentially from there.
And then he walks up like he's an actor,
and then breaks down on camera.
I mean, it's like, "Ha ha ha, yeah, ha.
Oh, I read this card? Okay."
I mean, it's like, "Whoa! Whoa!"
He does look like a soap opera actor.
So, he's really smiling and looks happy,
and all of a sudden, suddenly...
It looks totally fake.
This video is unbelievable.
We're just gonna post the video...
and let you decide what you think.
He needs to-- I mean, maybe he should explain it to us.
We need to analyze all these videos now.
Heaven help us, ladies and gentlemen.
Heaven help us.
I've never seen anything like that.
It got vile very, very quickly.
Emilie's Memorial Facebook page became inundated.
Like, "Fuck you, motherfucker."
And "I have your email, I know where you live.
I have a gun."
We would get emails.
We would get letters sent to our home,
threatening us.
You know, just saying all sorts of horrible things.
You know, that Emilie was a whore,
that Emilie was alive.
Totally stomped on and trashed
the memory of the six-year-old girl
who had done nothing in her life to deserve any of that.
You know, I would see it and I would just delete it,
I would see it and I would delete it,
because I didn't want to expose myself to it.
It was everywhere.
Websites set up to destroy him.
"Liar. Actor."
I remember getting on YouTube, it wouldn't stop.
I could scroll and scroll and just keep scrolling,
video after video after video of him just being mocked.
It got to the point where it was controlling my life in a way.
You got parents laughing, going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"
and then going...
Method acting, going...
"Oh, my child!"
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
I remember the funeral.
I went into a state of shock.
I was just on autopilot.
On Monday, there was a funeral for six-year-old Noah Pozner.
I spoke with Noah's mother, Veronique Pozner,
just a short time ago...
I know that I did an interview
with Anderson Cooper
because it was the autopilot part of me
that kind of wanted to convey what just happened.
I'm grieving, that's all.
- Like we all are. - Yeah.
- I wish you strength... - Thank you.
- ...and peace in the days ahead. - Thank you.
- I know it's hard. Yeah. - Thank you. I'm going to need it. Thank you.
Now, a lot of the tens of millions
of video views on YouTube
concerning the Sandy Hook hoax
surround CNN.
I saw this footage where Anderson Cooper turns.
He's supposedly there at Sandy Hook
in front of the memorial,
and his whole forehead and nose blurs out.
I've been working with blue screen for 17 years.
I know what it looks like.
It's clearly blue screen.
Somehow, that was a proof that we were not actually
at that locale and that image of the town hall
was being artificially projected.
But the fact that this whole thing could be staged,
it's just mind-blowing.
It was a digital motion glitch in the video,
and that glitch doesn't exist in the original video.
That only exists in the hoaxer version of the video.
Something though,
is really starting to get suspicious here.
I mean, I'm sick of it always being a conspiracy.
He rehashed my "green screen" video
for over five years, relentlessly.
And you've got the green screens
with Anderson Cooper's nose disappearing,
you've just-- it just goes on and on, on and on.
Infowars were vilifying the parents.
Anything that they can point their finger at
to support their thesis.
So, Wolfgang, recap the basic anomalies
and then give us what happened in your new investigation.
Thank you, Wolfgang, for joining us.
And at that point,
Infowars had prompted up Wolfgang Halbig
as this former law enforcement person
who has experience with school safety,
being this ultimate credible authority on the topic.
I think something would be wrong with us
not to question all these,
and then you look at the green screens
and the-- and just the lies and the fake videos and...
And Halbig was denying the tragedy.
Saying it did not happen.
This is Leonard Pozner,
who's playing the role of a parent
who lost a child at Sandy Hook.
There's Robbie Parker. Now there is Emilie.
I think Emilie is alive and well, doing good.
Sandy Hook, it's an illusion. It was not real.
The first thing is, why no trauma helicopters?
Think about it, innocent children shot,
teachers shot.
And no trauma helicopters respond?
You know, doctors can be on board,
lifesaving, time of the essence.
And then, for us to learn that they never allowed
any paramedics or EMTs inside the school?
What the hell is that?
They were not allowed inside that school, ever. Ever!
- ♪ Since the prehistoric ages ♪
♪ And the days Of ancient Greece... ♪
Wolfgang W. Halbig.
Then I got a phone call.
"Alex Jones would like to talk to you."
I think he was trying to get me to validate
what his thoughts were.
You know, he called me back three more times, you know.
They're taking the guns away from people in Connecticut,
and they're using Sandy Hook as a nexus.
It's so obvious they're using it to disarm us.
They admit it. And it's just a total hoax.
Oh, he hammered it.
He was, you know. He said, you know,
"Fake actors, green screen."
Oh, yeah, it was a vicious attack, you know.
Uh, he said "Nobody died at Sandy Hook."
See, I never said that.
You're really sure, though, nobody died,
it was a total cut-out?
I'm telling you, nobody died.
For people to be saying,
"This didn't happen. It was a hoax,"
and then you start seeing all the crazy things,
and it was just...
What do you mean this didn't happen?
When I woke up, that's when I realized
there were no trauma helicopters...
You've got a bunch of kids shot,
you don't even ask questions. Default helicopters launch.
They didn't seem to accept logic.
'Cause if you then answered a question,
"Well, why this? Why weren't people airlifted
to emergency rooms?"
"Well, because they were all dead."
Who has a 99.9 percent kill rate?
There isn't an FBI agent, there isn't a Navy SEAL
that's that good of a shot within eight minutes.
You don't get 99.99 kill rates.
It's just incredibly hard to do.
"How could, you know, he have such a fantastic
shooting accuracy that everyone died?"
I don't know, you shove 15 kids into a three-foot bathroom,
you're probably gonna have really good accuracy.
This is so well planned,
two, two and a half years,
millions of dollars invested. Think about it,
you had to get the entire community involved.
Really?
So a community of 28,000 people were in on this?
That we were all pretending, and all the pictures
and the experiences of the school beforehand,
we fabricated this for years?
It's just-- It's totally ridiculous.
And yet, you know, here we are all these years later,
and it still persists.
And I'm gonna tell you what,
somebody will break, and we're gonna break the story.
And we need your help,
we gotta be able to go to Newtown.
Absolutely.
We want to send reporters up there, Wolfgang, with you.
In the spring of 2015...
...you sent this man to go
badger and yell obscenities at Sandy Hook residents,
calling people who were involved in Sandy Hook
"crooked, corrupt, piece of shit, motherfuckers"
- You know who that is, right? -Yes.
-Okay, that's Mr. Bidondi. -Yes.
You sent him to go cover Wolfgang Halbig, correct?
I don't remember that.
Dan Bidondi for infowars.com,
and we're at the city of Newtown, Connecticut.
They're having a hearing on the Sandy Hook incident.
And with me is Wolfgang Halbig. How are you doing, sir?
Oh, great. Thanks for seeing me again.
I run different than normal reporters
because what I do is I go out there
and get the truth out.
That's one reason why I got my job with Infowars.
Okay, I started working for infowars.com.
No, you're a hero to many of us. God bless you.
No, no, all of us.
We need to have the truth. Thank you.
At least we could say we stood up,
and we did something. You know what I mean?
And that's the same drive
that everybody at infowars.com has.
And this is Dan Bidondi for the Infowars Nightly News.
It's weird when you're in Sandy Hook.
Something is not right in this town.
And, really, you can feel it.
I'm telling you to get out of here.
Get the fuck out.
Hey, you touch me again...
I wanted to meet the fire chief.
He's a huge player in the Sandy Hook incident.
- Don't touch him, Wolf. - Get out of here!
Chief, chief you gotta get him out of my face.
He's no fucking chief. Get the fuck out of here.
- I feel sorry for you. -Fuck you.
I feel sorry for you. Go to hell.
This is your volunteer fire department
here at Sandy Hook to save the children.
It's just ugly.
You are the board member,
you are the leaders of this community,
you are the superintendent.
I've appeared in front of the school board members
and asked the question, "Why no trauma helicopters?"
Why no trauma helicopters?
Why would you not let paramedics--
Board members, these are your children...
Not one of them responded.
They're hiding something.
People in America deserve the truth.
Wolfgang Halbig created a lot of hurt
and a lot of harm for people.
We want answers. We want truth.
Listening and watching what he's doing,
I'm realizing that he's being energized
by Alex Jones.
And that the two of them fed each other's psychosis.
Something is rotten here.
What's your bottom line?
What do you think's happening here?
Well, until they answer those questions,
I can tell you children did not die.
Teachers did not die.
It just could not have happened.
He was so persistent.
There goes Mr. Frank.
How does it feel covering up Sandy Hook, criminal?
Well, Monte Frank was the attorney representing
the town of Newtown.
When somebody asks for public records,
you should honor their request.
And they denied me at every step.
Good morning, Monte Frank,
representing the town of Newtown.
We started getting inundated with
Freedom of Information requests from Wolfgang Halbig.
- Did I read that correctly? -Yeah, absolutely.
Both the tone and the type of requests became more and more
menacing and harassing.
Never have met a liar like this man here.
Hey, Attorney Frank,
are you satisfied with the decision?
Of course, he's not going to answer.
There goes corruption right there.
Guess what there, Mr. Frank, what do you think?
You're protecting all of those people?
It took every ounce of energy that I had,
and every bit of restraint,
just to keep walking and not comment.
You guys trying to cover up Sandy Hook?
You know the information's gonna come out.
You know that, right?
You people are going to jail.
We became increasingly anxious.
It's like death by a thousand cuts.
It's a drip, drip, drip
of "we're not going to let you heal,
we're going to keep at you because we think our lies
are more powerful than your truth."
The Sandy Hook truth is coming out.
You people going to jail.
You can smile all you want. You're going to jail for fraud.
Plain and simple.
It went on for many, many years.
If you've got nothing to hide, then speak with us.
Take a moment to speak with us. You're a public official.
But make no mistake about it,
you will be going to jail...
I did not realize the extent of their reach
and the power of their reach.
And social media was exploding.
YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
And so this attack on facts
would become part of... I wouldn't say mainstream,
but pretty damn close to what is mainstream America now.
I just hope and pray that I'm not wrong.
If I'm that wrong, if I'm that wrong,
and if I've hurt people,
probably I need to go to a mental hospital.
Now look at this one here, this is unbelievable.
Hockley. See her?
There's no point arguing with them.
That I've learned the hard way.
No matter what you do, they're never gonna believe.
They say, "Show us the death certificates."
"Oh, that's a forgery."
"Show us the pictures." "Oh, that's a forg--"
"Show us proof that your kid ever existed."
"Oh, you just made that up." And you can't... you can't win.
Most people did think that if it was just ignored,
next time they'd look for it, it wouldn't be there.
And I didn't have that opinion.
It was obvious to me that this was on a trajectory,
and it was only getting worse.
In 2014, I was ready to take on this hoaxer phenomenon
relating to the tragedy of my son.
My first phase was to make myself available
and communicate with them.
And Kelley Watt was one of the people
that I came across.
So we had this dialogue, you know, we talked a lot
for about a six-month period of time.
I'm as firm in my belief that it didn't happen
as Lenny Pozner is--
that he's convinced that he had a son who passed away.
You just-- This is just so insane.
I just can't believe that anybody believes it.
I really have a hard time
believing that people actually believe this.
She communicated with all of these hoax content creators
like Wolfgang Halbig.
And she inserted herself in the middle of all of this.
When I heard that these children had been shot,
one of the first things I did because of my cleaning business,
I called the Environmental Protection Agency of Connecticut
and said, "Who cleaned up the blood?"
And it was like, "What blood?"
I'm like, "Twenty-six people were murdered. That blood."
And he said, "Are you one of these conspiracy theorists?"
And he said, "I stepped over those dead babies."
To which I replied, "No, you did not.
No, you did not."
This is the email that Kelley Watt had sent.
When I'd asked her to contact Wolfgang Halbig
to see if he'll talk to me.
And the response that I got from Kelley is that
he won't speak to me until I exhume Noah's body.
I watched a lot of true crime,
and they exhume bodies all the time.
It's not unusual.
That's all you can do.
If you really want to prove that this didn't happen,
what else can you do but to have the bodies exhumed?
That's when I realized that,
you know, these people,
they've got their own party going on, and...
and uh, and I'm not invited, so.
After that phase lacked any success,
I shifted to removing content.
Anyone that was going after Noah,
I was having their content removed.
YouTube videos.
Anything that was denying reality.
The hoax content outnumbered any factual information.
If you did a Google search, or a search on YouTube,
for the Sandy Hook shooting, five out of six results
would have been hoax material.
That's what people were clicking on
so that's all that people are going to be exposed to.
It was a contagion.
It was going viral, spreading to billions of people.
Platforms at that point wouldn't remove content
based on their own policies.
Other than copyright.
That's very black and white in the hosting world.
I was persistent in reporting material.
Going after a particular channel and finding anything
that violated privacy or copyright.
Noah Pozner,
one of the children supposedly killed
in the December 2012
Sandy Hook school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.
So if they were using images of Noah,
I was able to get that content taken down
and that would bring channels down.
You got green screen with Anderson Cooper,
and then his nose disappears.
It's-- it's not real.
Even that video, you know, there were probably
hundreds of that video, maybe thousands of it.
All of that had to be taken down, one by one.
And it was very hard to do.
And there was real... real warfare going on,
and a real battle was taking place.
They were losing their content.
It's like their playground, and if you take their toys away,
they just become enraged.
Our entire media operation and your First Amendment,
my First Amendment, is under massive attack.
By 2015 he was accusing me of taking away his free speech
and crippling his YouTube channel.
This guy comes and says that we violated their copyright
to trigger the suspension of the Alex Jones channel.
Infowars published my name
before his millions of listeners.
This is amazing. The claimant is Lenny Pozner,
HONRnetwork at gmail.com.
What do you think of us being censored?
What's been happening to you?
I can tell you lots about Lenny.
Lenny, if you're listening, your day is coming, my friend.
It is coming. Go after him, Alex. Crush him.
After that came Lucy Richards.
You're going to die,
you motherfucking nigger.
Kike, Jew bastard. Cunt. You're going to die.
She made death threats. She became triggered
by something she heard on Infowars.
She was sentenced to six months in federal prison.
Part of her consequence was that she would no longer
listen to Alex Jones.
So that was directly ordered by the court.
It kept on going. It continues.
Donald Trump is our guest.
He is the leading
2016 Republican presidential contender.
Well, Donald Trump, let me say this.
My audience, I'd say 90 percent, support you.
Your reputation's amazing.
I will not let you down.
You will be very, very impressed, I hope.
2016, you know, we had a president
that was denying things.
This is a good time to be alive, ladies and gentlemen,
and we owe Donald Trump so much.
That idea, that concept, has spread, to not trust media.
There was this escalation in alternative ways of thinking
so that, combined with Infowars repeating Sandy Hook lies,
brought everything back again. It restarted the cycle.
Alex Jones isn't going away.
Over the years, his YouTube channel
has racked up 1.3 billion views.
He has millions of listeners,
and the ear of our current president.
Alex Jones's general statements and remarks
and, you know, disbelief of the tragedy
were getting more and more frequent.
So I went on the, uh,
Megyn's show and I did an interview.
I lost my son. I buried my son.
I held my son with a bullet hole through his head.
Shortly thereafter, I was accused of being a liar.
Here's another story.
Neil Heslin, a father of one of the victims,
he's claiming that he held his son
and saw the bullet hole in his head.
That is his claim.
Now, according to a timeline of events
and a coroner's testimony,
that is not possible.
Megyn Kelly,
talking to the father of one of the victims,
saying he went and held his dead son
there at the school.
And then it cuts to the coroner, but he's saying
no one was allowed to go in and see the kids.
And we just said, "See? That's why people ask questions."
I held him with a bullet hole in his head.
You know, who does he think he is
to... to... you know, question that?
That was really the-- what broke the camel's back.
And that's when I filed the lawsuit against Alex Jones.
And I figured, "Well, he's in Texas,
I'm gonna go to Texas with it."
2018, Neil Heslin called me
and said, "Can you help me?"
Neil lost his son, Jesse.
And what was in Neil's case
is that Infowars specifically said,
"You're lying about having held your child.
You didn't do that. You're a liar."
And then, of course, Jesse's mom, Scarlett Lewis,
also subject to the same kind of harassment,
these lies about the death of her child.
So you had two causes of action for Neil,
which is defamation
and intentional infliction of emotional distress,
and just the emotional distress for Scarlett.
I had to think long and hard
over whether I would join the lawsuit.
There have been times that have been very scary,
and I've had to think, "Wow, is this is worth it?"
And...
my conclusion has always been, "Yeah.
It's worth it to send this message,
the importance of truth."
So, this is the case against Alex Jones
on behalf of 15 Connecticut plaintiffs.
The Texas cases kinda continued
on somewhat of a parallel track to ours.
We're both proceeding, um,
I think, with the same goal in mind,
you know, which is to hold Alex Jones accountable.
The families that we represent
are very much looking forward to the trial.
I was at a conference
for mothers who--
whose kids died by gun violence.
And I, uh, was in an elevator with this woman.
She saw my necklace and she said,
"Who's this?"
And I said, "Oh, this is my son, Ben.
He was killed when he was six."
And she said, "What do you mean?"
And I said, "Well, we live in Sandy Hook,
he died in his school."
And she said, "You're lying."
-Wow. -"That didn't happen.
They said it-- they said it didn't happen."
And I was like, "What?"
She said, "No, no, they said it didn't happen."
And I was like, "No, it-- it really happened."
And she wasn't crazy.
It had been years since our kids were killed,
and I'm walking down the street in Seattle
and somebody recognizes me, and then he looked up and goes,
"How do you fucking sleep at night,
you son of a bitch?"
And I just think the amount of content
that that person had to watch and digest and hold on to,
to where he could recognize me in some random city,
3,000 miles away from Newtown, on some random day...
Like, how much... How much did he have to take in?
Part of what we're doing here
is hoping that we can... we can do our little part
to course correct this kind of dangerous,
wildly out of control dynamic
of misinformation and disinformation
and people who are happy and willing to believe
whatever it is that they want to hear.
It was the only thing we found that was left for us
to make it stop, hopefully, to make it stop.
My little son died afraid, and alone, terrorized,
watching his friends be murdered.
Yeah.
Lots of anger.
There's so much to deal with
after losing a child.
I'm strong enough now that I'm ready to take this on.
So what's the end result gonna be?
Um, total destruction of Alex Jones, can I say that?
- I love America.
It's not fear that makes me get tears in my eyes.
It's will and strength boiling to defeat these tyrants,
and these globalists.
But that said...
Just like our information is game-changing...
the products that we sell,
all of them, are powerful.
And whether it's colloidal silver from 1995,
the very best out there,
or whether it's DNA Force, now back in stock...
What we really want to do
is expose him to the world
as a con man, a fraud.
Alex Jones does not want his audience to know
just how much he's exploiting them every day.
But what happened is, their lawyers gave us
all these emails, which they hadn't reviewed,
and included in the emails were attachments
that showed some of the data for some of the years.
It just so happened, you know, we got lucky.
The dates are from 2009 to 2014, so that was great for us
because what we were able to show
is the growth in audience month over month
and year over year.
So, they published this story to infowars.com,
September 2014, almost two years after the shooting,
"FBI Says No One Killed at Sandy Hook."
It's just a lie, it's ridiculous.
But you put out a story like this
and it gets people's attention
because, I think, people just assume,
"Oh, my gosh, more evidence."
And, of course, you know, they're running their
33 percent off DNA Force Plus.
So, they published this story
and then they had a spike in unique visitors,
they have a spike in page views.
So what's happening is all these new people
are coming to infowars.com to read this bullshit story
about FBI saying nobody killed at Sandy Hook,
and when they're there,
they're getting pitched all these ads to go to the store
and a lot of them do.
The next day, their revenue goes from 48,000
to 232,000,
from this one story alone.
Uh, good morning sir. - Good morning.
This guy, Tim Fruge, his business director.
In this deposition, you know, I show him the spike,
he says, "Yeah, there's a spike."
I would agree there's a spike, yes.
I agree with you.
And when you're having your daily call with Alex Jones
and you see a spike in revenue like that,
from 48,000 to 232,000 dollars,
you're telling him about that, right?
Yeah, of course.
Of course!
It's just so obvious what they're doing.
Jones is just getting rich.
He's just getting rich off of saying these things
about these families who meantime, meantime in 2014,
they're under a barrage of threats and harassment
and fear and anxiety because of what he's doing.
He doesn't give a shit.
He's just like getting rich off it.
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's...
Yeah, the more people in town square,
the more people go to the shops. Yes.
-Morning, Mr. Jones. - Good morning.
His dad, David Jones,
kind of like said the quiet part out loud.
Are you aware whether Free Speech Systems collects
data concerning when during an Alex Jones broadcast
it has the most sales activity?
Only in the sense that if there have been days
where we had extraordinarily good sales, someone will say,
"What was Alex saying when that happened?"
And so, we like to emulate spikes.
They're seeing this and they want to replicate it.
Of course, that's how you run a business.
That's what you would expect,
except that Alex Jones tells his audience,
"I don't care about money, you know,
I'm just all about freedom
and fighting the globalists.
And, you know, support us if you can
to keep us on the air."
When really what he's doing is just feeding his audience
like a daily dose of fear and rage
and looking at what works.
What else could possibly explain the way these families
have been hunted and stalked for ten years?
Jones was not reluctant
to have his deposition taken.
When it first started, you could tell
he was feeling like he was in his element.
You know, he thought, "Oh, I'm in front of a camera.
I'm just going to act like I'm on my own show."
The trauma of the media and the corporations
lying so much, then everything begins--
You don't trust anything anymore.
Kind of like a child whose parents lie to them
over and over again. Well, pretty soon they don't know
what reality is.
People lost any compass of what's real.
And I've, you know, I myself have, you know, almost had
like a form of psychosis back in the past
where I basically thought everything was staged,
even though I'm now learning a lot of times
things aren't staged.
You know, it's painful that we have to question
big public events. I think that's an essential part
of the First Amendment in America...
In this country,
First Amendment guarantees that Congress shall pass no law
abridging the freedom of the speech.
Telling lies, false information
is not protected by the First Amendment.
And then photos of kids that are still alive
they said died.
I mean, they think we're so dumb
that it's-- it's really hidden in plain view.
Mr. Jones, you can admit that that statement
was absolute nonsense.
There are not photos of children
who died who are actually still alive.
- That's not-- - That is an out-of-context clip.
I can't even respond to something like that.
You've made money from every single one
of these broadcasts we saw today, right?
No, we actually lose money on really controversial stuff.
We can actually see it.
And you have supplements you sell too
with these videos, correct?
It's-- The two don't go together.
You can never trust anything this guy says.
He's a calculated liar.
As the deposition drug on, he enjoyed it less.
We are back on the record at 12:58 p.m.
Mr. Jones, before we went on a break,
we were talking about the issue of whether there were EMTs
allowed into the building.
We talk a lot about the tragedy at Sandy Hook
and sometimes we shield ourselves from the details.
In that second classroom,
there was over a dozen children piled into a rear bathroom.
I have put in front of you the statement
of Lieutenant Vanghele. I'm going to read that
and you're going to follow along with me. Okay?
"I then walked into a room with Sergeant Cario.
To the left of the room as you walk in,
there was a bathroom in the corner.
There was a massive pileup of bodies in this room.
At this time, I did not know it was a bathroom,
and I wondered how the suspect had the time to kill
that many people and stack them in the corner of the room.
And many of the bodies had injuries
that were obviously fatal.
The children that were sitting on the floor of the bathroom
were packed in like sardines."
Let's look at exhibit three.
Do you see at the very bottom of the page,
the very bottom left corner,
it says Sergeant William F. Cario?
- Yes. -Okay.
I'm going to read the highlighted part to you.
"Paramedic Matt Cassavechia approached me.
I have known Cassavechia for many years
and recognized him as the head of EMS for Danbury Hospital.
Cassavechia said,
'You know I've got to get into that building.'
I realized at some point those victims presumed dead
would have to be officially pronounced dead.
As we walked to the school, I told Cassavechia,
'This will be the worst day of your life.'"
After that, his demeanor totally changed
and his attitude for the rest of the deposition changed.
One of the major successes that I think we've had
is forcing Jones to admit under oath,
that he was not right, that Sandy Hook happened.
We finally have that on record.
Recently, your lawyer said, "There is no dispute
that the Sandy Hook tragedy was real."
You stand by that, that's what you admit is true now?
Yes.
I wanna ask you, now looking back on this,
are you sorry?
You know, I did all this from a good place in my heart,
and I'm really sad the establishment has lied
so much and done so much
that the public doesn't believe what they're told anymore.
There's been a real loss of confidence in the system.
And I'm a good person.
So in some ways you're a victim?
Well, let's just say time's running out
for the establishment.
This is bizarre. This is unbelievable.
A judge just says,
"You're defaulted, you're guilty.
You owe these people money."
For the past three years,
Infowars has repeatedly disobeyed
the court's instructions.
Has broken virtually every rule
that could be put in front of them.
The judge had enough, said it's over.
What that means is he's lost. It's over.
Because a default judgment has been granted against Jones,
and that's a big event.
All that's left to do is to determine
how much he has to pay these parents
for the unlawful acts he did. That's it.
This jury will be instructed,
at the very beginning of this trial,
that they are to find that the defendant
has committed these acts.
All right, Mr. Jones, you know about,
uh, back in September a default got granted against you, right?
I know I didn't get a jury trial.
I know a judge said I was guilty.
I don't believe that I live in the Soviet Union.
Now that you got beat in court,
now that a default's been granted--
No, I didn't get beat in court.
I got beat by an organized crime syndicate.
What Jones decided to do in this case
was not participate in discovery.
And he never gave us anything other than just pure BS.
Yet he turns around then and says,
"Oh, I gave so much information."
If-- if-- if you give me 80 pounds of shit,
it's still 80 pounds of shit.
This is a show trial. Eighty-one thousand pages,
two depositions with myself and my whole crew,
because we don't have what you claim we have.
He looked at it and said,
"If I give you all the information that I'm supposed to give you,
there's no way I'm ever gonna win.
So why the hell am I gonna give it to you?"
So, if you don't give it to us, there's remedies for that.
And that remedy is, again, the default.
It's a kangaroo trial because it is.
You didn't even answer discovery.
When you tell your show
that this is all just a kangaroo court
and you completely complied but got railroaded,
that's not true.
- None of that's true. - No, it is true.
I mean, I remember giving you guys all sorts of stuff.
Then you would say you hadn't been given it.
I don't say this as a victim, but this is traumatic for me,
and I'm s-- and I'm tired of hearing about it.
And now, I have, like, a mental wall on Sandy Hook
that just goes up,
because I can't deal with the stress of it.
And so, I just put a mental wall up and I-- I--
You ask me these questions,
and it's like... I just can't deal with it anymore.
I'm gonna tell you again. You're having all of your rights robbed.
We're not allowed to tell the jury
that Infowars is bankrupt.
This is a kangaroo court. This is a political action.
It's a witch hunt. I'll be back later.
We got business here.
We just heard from Alex Jones.
He believes the trial is a sham, a show trial.
He's saying that because he's already been found liable
by default by this judge.
All rise.
459th District Court is now in session.
The Honorable Judge Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.
Good morning.
You may be seated.
This is Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis
versus Alex E. Jones
and Free Speech Systems LLC.
You are not here to determine if Mr. Jones
and Free Speech Systems LLC defamed
or intentionally inflicted emotional distress
on Mr. Heslin or Ms. Lewis.
The court has already found
that they have committed these acts.
The jury's job will be to determine what sum of money,
if any, would fairly and reasonably compensate
Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis
for the damages they incurred that were proximately caused
by Mr. Jones and Free Speech Systems LLC.
Mr. Bankston, whenever you are ready.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name's Mark Bankston,
and I'm here to talk to you about two rules.
First, you can't recklessly tell lies
about something important to someone.
In this case, like the death of their child.
If you do that, you know you're going to cause them harm,
you're responsible for that.
Mr. Jones continually was churning this idea
that Sandy Hook was fake.
You need to understand that he intentionally lied
to sell supplements.
Mr. Jones used Jesse's death to sell his products.
Mr. Jones told the world
that Neil was lying about holding Jesse's body.
Because Mr. Jones will do or say anything
to protect his ability to profit off his lies.
And over the last decade,
Mr. Jones has become incredibly influential
over a segment of this country.
What I want you to remember about this is this number.
Twenty-four percent
is the percent of people in this country
who believe that Sandy Hook was either definitely
or possibly staged,
and group of people is 75 million people.
You can put an end to these lies
by punishing Alex Jones.
-Thank you very much.
All right, thank you, Mr. Bankston.
It was surreal.
That 24 percent just was so powerful,
especially to me.
I mean, I had known that, but I didn't want to say it
because I didn't really want to acknowledge
that a quarter of Americans don't believe the facts.
Infowars believes in people's right
to question information.
Alex Jones doesn't trust the government.
Millions of Americans don't trust the government.
There's nothing sort of more appealing
than when I see, uh, you know,
a person alone surrounded by a lynch mob.
Despite his hyperbole,
he has helped millions of people
realize for the first time
the depredations that are affected upon them
by the elites.
And I think for that he is an American hero.
He is one of the most polarizing figures
in this nation.
They want to tell you this is the Great Satan.
You will be able to decide.
The plaintiff's attorneys
took Mr. Heslin and Ms. Lewis
and they convinced them that Alex Jones was responsible
for all the pain that they have in their lives.
And then they grabbed Alex Jones
and they threw us both into a pit
so that we could fight against each other on...
on national television.
Mr. Shroyer, raise your right hand
to be sworn in, please.
Neil said, "I held my son in my arms.
I saw the bullet wound through his forehead."
The person who got on the Internet,
on Jones's web show,
and said that Neil Heslin was a liar,
that's Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer.
You did a show on June 25th, 2017,
where you were the sole host. You remember that?
- Yes. -Okay.
You were handed the story while you were on air live
- and you ran with it, right? - Yes.
You had no problem putting that on the air, right?
Yes.
The message is, "Neil Heslin never held Jesse."
- Right? - No.
He's claiming that he held his son
and saw the bullet hole in his head.
That is his claim.
Now, according to a timeline of events
and a coroner's testimony, that is not possible.
Okay, so making a pretty extreme claim
that would be a very thing vivid in your memory,
holding his dead child.
When you, three times, say, "He's claiming it,"
and then show evidence that you say refutes it,
you're saying you're not doubting it?
I didn't show evidence that refuted his claim.
I showed evidence that was presented to me
that says this doesn't add up.
But I never called Mr. Heslin a liar.
I never said Sandy Hook didn't happen.
In the process of putting that story out
to a worldwide broadcast, you hurt real people.
You understand that now, right?
I mean-- You still don't care, do you?
I do care.
- Will there be a clarification
from Heslin or Megyn Kelly?
I wouldn't hold your breath.
So now they're fueling the conspiracy theory claims.
Unbelievable. We'll be right back with more.
Why in the world would Neil Heslin
- owe you an explanation? - He doesn't.
Do you think Scarlett and Neil deserve better
than what you did that day?
Yes.
So right after you called Neil Heslin a liar,
they ran a commercial for a product
that they sell on their website called Z-Shield, right?
Well, yes, when we go to a break, we run commercials.
Right. Because Infowars
is actually an infomercial,
- right? - No.
Thank you for joining us on this live Tuesday
worldwide transmission.
I'm hosting this hour, and then I'm gonna get in a car
and drive down to testify today in the show trial.
It's demonic.
They all act demonically possessed.
The judge, the lawyers.
It's surreal to be around them.
Mr. Neil Heslin to the stand.
All right, Mr. Heslin, you'll come in front of me, please,
so I can swear you in.
The judge is primping,
and they've got an HBO camera with her all mic-ed up in there.
"Oh! Oh"
They've got dozens of cameras in there.
Then they go, "This man tortured these innocent people
for ten years."
Mr. Heslin...
Mr. Jones's attorney said that he would be here today.
How does it make you feel,
sitting in this courtroom right now,
that Mr. Jones is not sitting here facing you?
I think it's a disrespect
and I think it's a cowardly act of Alex Jones
not to be facing me here in this courtroom.
I've now met Neil Heslin.
And I'll just say it, 'cause I gotta be honest.
He's slow.
And now that I've been around him for over a week,
I'm like, "Okay."
Mr. Heslin, did you hear what was being said
by Alex Jones and his associates
as a denial that Jesse ever existed?
Yes.
He did live.
I was blessed with him for six and a half years.
I did hold my son with a bullet hole in his head.
This trial is the only way
I can restore my credibility and reputation.
And Jesse's legacy and honor,
as he so much deserves.
Neil had always talked about wanting his day in court
and he wanted to face Jones.
And actually, for me,
that was a pretty scary thing to think about.
And, you know, he wasn't in court a lot,
so you could never predict when he was going to be in court
and when he wasn't.
How are you doing today, Mr. Jones?
Doing great.
Mr. Jones, can you tell us
why you weren't in trial this morning?
The whole country is turning against the Democratic Party.
And there he is.
My stomach just turned over.
It did a flip-flop.
Spit your gum out, Mr. Jones.
-It's not gum. -Well, what is it?
'Cause you're not allowed food
or gum of any kind in the courtroom.
I had my tooth pulled a week and a half ago,
and it's-- I had some gauze in there earlier.
So you're chewing on your gauze?
Would you like me to show you?
- No. - I can show you right here.
I don't want to see the inside of your mouth.
No, there's no gum.
- Hole. -Sit down.
We're bringing the jury in.
He's sitting right in front of me,
and I'm looking right into his eyes.
Are you pleased that you at least
now finally get to look this man in the eye?
Yes.
I wanted to tell you, to your face,
because I wanted you to know
that I am a mother, first and foremost.
And I know that you're a father.
And my son existed.
You're still on your show today, trying to say
that I'm... implying that I'm an actress.
That I'm deep state. You have, this week.
And truth is what we base our reality on.
And we have to agree on that to have a civil society.
Sandy Hook is a hard truth.
And having a quarter of Americans
doubt that Sandy Hook happened,
or doubt the facts around Sandy Hook,
is not conducive to keeping our kids safe.
It's not.
Jesse was real. I am a real mom.
I know you know that. That's the problem.
I know you know that, and you keep saying it.
You keep saying it. Why? Why? For money?
Because you've made a lot of money while you've said it.
I know you're-- I mean...
I know you believe me.
And yet you're going to get--
You're going to leave this courthouse
and you're going to say it again on your show.
You're saying no. You just did it.
Did you have an opportunity
to hear what Mr. Jones had said on his show,
not 45 minutes or so ago,
about Mr. Heslin and his testimony?
Yes.
I'm going to object, Your Honor.
It's an edited clip.
I don't think it should be played.
Overruled.
I mean, I'll just say it 'cause I gotta be honest.
He's slow. Okay?
I don't think he's stupid.
I'm just saying he's... he's...
I mean, I think Heslin acts like somebody on the spectrum,
and it makes me feel like an even bigger jerk.
How does it make you feel,
knowing that that was said today by this man on his radio show
while Jesse's father was testifying
in that same seat you're sitting in?
It makes me feel... astounded in a bad way.
It's horrific. Horrific. Horrific.
You have a claim
for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
- Do you not? - Yes.
And what do you hope will be accomplished?
In some way,
you've impacted every single day of my life negatively
since-- almost since Jesse's murder.
Alex has been asked to stop, and he hasn't.
He's still doing it today.
So you're not going to stop.
I don't even think my pleading with you up here
is going to get you to stop.
It seems so incredible to me
that we have to do this.
That we have to implore you,
not just implore you,
punish you to get you to stop lying,
saying it's a hoax. It happened.
It's, like, surreal, what's going on in here.
I think everyone in here probably feels that way.
I hope to accomplish an era of truth.
An era of truth.
Please.
Mr. Reynal, do you have a witness for the jury?
I do.
The defense would call Alex E. Jones.
All right, Mr. Jones,
come stand in front of me, please.
Raise your right hand.
Do you solemnly swear or affirm,
under penalty of perjury,
that the testimony you are about to give
shall be the truth, the whole truth,
- and nothing but the truth? - I do.
Thank you. Come have a seat.
He didn't have to be there.
You know, he wasn't subpoenaed.
You know, within the bounds of what was allowed,
we tried to let him tell his story.
Alex, would you please introduce yourself
to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury?
Hi, I'm Alex Jones.
How are you feeling today, Alex?
I actually feel good
because I get a chance to, for the first time,
say what's really going on, instead of the corporate media
and high-powered law firms
manipulating what I actually did.
I just do want to say this on record,
'cause I've said it many times...
Objection, non-responsive.
- I apologize to both-- -Uh! Sustained.
So, Mr. Jones, this is not a conversation.
It's question and answer.
So she got to monologue but not me. I got it.
And so you have to only answer questions
that are asked of you.
You may proceed.
Mr. Jones, have you been wanting to apologize
to the plaintiffs in this case for a long time?
Yes.
And what would you like to say to them?
That I never intentionally tried to hurt you.
Today, where they play a 30 s-- or one-minute clip,
and I knew that I said, "I believe
that Scarlett Lewis is real and she's a really nice person
and she's really a sweet person."
And then I went through and talked about her ex-husband too.
And then... then I said, "I believe they're being fed and manipulated."
Your Honor, objection, non-responsive.
Sustained.
- This is a perfect-- -Sustained.
When you hear sustained, you have to stop talking.
Okay. Okay.
Excuse me. Sorry.
- Mr. Jones. - Oh, thank you very much.
I'm sorry. I just... I just...
I'm about to have to have surgery on this. It's...
It's been like this for ten years,
but it's really bad now.
Let's talk about Infowars and its business model.
- Do you sell vitamins? - Yes.
We have them made by the... the top lab
recognized in the United States.
All we do is put our label on it,
so we know it's triple-tested, the highest quality.
And that's why people love it
because it is the best out there.
There's all sorts of crap
you can buy at a gas station out there.
That's not what ours is.
I mean, we buy our PQQ and CoQ10 from the Japanese.
I mean, it's the best.
Let's discuss email.
How much email does Infowars routinely get?
Uh, I mean... I mean, I know when we looked to comply
with the discovery, which we complied with,
it was over ten million that they had to search
that was still in the inbox, unopened.
How many employees would Infowars have to have,
in your view, if you were to actually read every message,
every email, every tip that's sent in?
It would take ten, 15, 20 people.
We'd go bankrupt, which we are now. But...
Your Honor, I have a couple motions I'm gonna need to take up
outside the presence of the jury.
I don't know if you want to do that now
or wait till he's done with his direct.
All right. We're gonna--
Just-- just sit tight for a second.
We're going to take a break.
- All right, thank you. -All rise.
I don't know what's going on, Your Honor,
but I need to bring a couple of motions there
for jury instructions.
Mr. Reynal just absolutely solicited direct testimony
from Mr. Jones that he is bankrupt.
Mr. Jones has testified straight into the record
that he's bankrupt, which is not true.
Mr. Jones just intentionally did that
in violation of your order to attempt to poison
this compensatory damage verdict,
to try to tell this jury that he's broke when he's not.
The second is that he absolutely--
Mr. Jones just fully testified, "We complied with discovery,"
but we both know Mr. Jones did anything but comply
with discovery and did that for four years,
thumbing his nose in the face of this court in rank contempt.
Mr. Jones...
you may not say to this jury...
that you complied with discovery.
That is not true. You may not say it again.
You may not tell this jury that you are bankrupt.
That is also not true.
It seems...
absurd to instruct you again
that you must tell the truth while you testify.
Yet here I am.
You must tell the truth while you testify.
This is not your show.
Do you understand what I have said?
Yes or no?
Do you understand what I have said?
Yes. I believe what I said was true. So--
Yes, you believe everything you say is true, but it isn't.
Your beliefs do not make something true.
That is... That is what we're doing here.
You understand what I have said?
I do understand.
You understand the instructions I have given you
for your testimony in court?
Yes.
I am not going to bring the jury back today.
All right. We'll see you tomorrow.
- Thank you. -All rise.
He had been coughing a lot
and he had explained that his larynx was torn.
And I felt such tremendous compassion for him.
And so brought him a water and four cough drops.
Oh, thank you. You're very sweet.
I want you to know that.
I believe your son died,
and I apologize for everything that happened.
And that he's slow and autistic. Thanks, Jones.
No, I'm slow about certain things, too. I said...
Well, anyways, I was being honest on air.
And I think people have been--
I think a lot of the stuff you said--
have been manipulating and giving you guys stuff--
That's it. We're not talking anymore.
You're not doing this. That's not even a thought.
That's not the way this goes.
Why? 'Cause you can't feed 'em fake videos anymore?
Oh, shut your mouth.
That's what you try to do is shut my mouth.
- You'll never succeed. -Let it go.
-That's okay. -Don't touch me, sir.
Well, I think I'm autistic too, mate.
-Stop there and stay.
See that? They came over to see us.
Mr. Jones, I want to know,
you taking this trial seriously?
You're approaching it in good faith?
- Absolutely. -Okay.
The truth is, you and your company
want the world to believe
that this judge is rigging this court proceeding
to make sure that a script,
a literal script, is being followed.
That's what you want the world to believe.
No, I believe the jury's real.
Okay. Your Honor, at this time,
we'd like to offer a clip from Infowars on Friday
from the purposes of impeachment
in which those exact words were said.
So that's why the judge is rigging the court proceeding,
to make sure that the script,
this is literally a script,
a script gets told in a certain way for future audiences.
That's from your show, isn't it?
- That's justice on fire. -Oh, okay.
- Can I see it, please? -Yes, you may, Your Honor.
This is you taking this trial seriously
and in good faith? That's what this is?
The judge is the fire of burning Lady Liberty.
It's not the judge...
The judge is consuming freedom.
I sure hope some of your viewers
are able to make that distinction
that you just split on that hair, don't you?
One of the things you talked about yesterday
is you complied with discovery,
you said that on the witness stand?
That's one of the things I talked about.
Okay. One of the things that you were ordered to do
in this lawsuit...
you were ordered to turn over
any text messages mentioning Sandy Hook, right?
- Yes. - And you didn't have any. Right?
Not that we could find.
And you, in fact, told me in your sworn testimony,
before coming to this courtroom, you searched, right?
-I did. - Okay.
Mr. Jones, I'd like to show you what's been marked
as claimant's exhibit 130.
- That's text messages. - Yes.
And they mention Sandy Hook, don't they?
Yes.
I've never seen this text message.
You guys have all this stuff,
and you say we didn't give anything.
So you did get my text messages.
You said you didn't. Nice trick.
Twelve days ago, your attorneys messed up
and sent me an entire digital copy
of your entire cell phone
with every text message you've sent
for the past two years.
And that is how I know you lied to me
when you said you didn't have text messages
about Sandy Hook. Did you know that?
I-- See, I told you the truth. This is your Perry Mason moment.
I gave them my phone. And then--
Mr. Jones, you need to answer the question.
- No, I-- - Did you know this happened?
No, I didn't know this happened.
But I mean, I told you. I gave my phone over.
Just answer the question.
You said in your deposition,
you searched your phone.
You were asked,
"Do you have Sandy Hook text messages on your phone?"
And you said, "No."
You said that under oath, Mr. Jones, didn't you?
I mean, if I was mistaken, I was mistaken.
But you've got the messages right there.
You know what perjury is, right?
I just want to make sure you know
before we go any further. You know what it is.
Yes, I do.
But you testified, under oath, previously,
that you, personally, searched your phone,
for the phrase "Sandy Hook" and there were no messages.
- You said that under oath. -Yes.
- And you lied when you said it. - No, I did not lie.
Are you aware that your attorney has argued
this is what you should pay for the damages?
Do you agree with it?
- Do I agree with it? - A dollar. A dollar, is that...
We done?
I'll pay it for you. Are we done?
What does the New York Times do for lying about WMDs?
I don't think there's any point
in asking you any more questions, Mr. Jones.
Okay.
It couldn't have gone better.
This case was going to end just like it began.
The very first question I ever asked Jones
was about, "Why are you lying to me?"
And the very last thing I ever showed the jury was,
"This man's a liar."
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
at this time, I will present to you the charge of the court.
You will go to the jury room to decide the case,
answer the questions that are attached, and reach a verdict.
Answer separately in dollars and cents for each person
for the damages listed below, if any.
All rise.
Hello, we love you.
You guys got any questions?
Just your thoughts on today.
Our side told the truth.
Their lawyers did nothing but lie.
But there's no deep pockets here,
so they're in for a rude awakening.
So no matter what the verdict is, I'm at peace.
I always try to tell the truth.
What did you think about the text messages?
God bless, guys. Appreciate you for coming.
We love you Love, love, love.
What was that Tom Petty said,
"Waiting is the hardest part"?
The idea of him going back and starting this all over again,
he will.
That's why for a punitive damage verdict,
you must take enough
so that he can never re-enter public life.
Because if you do--
If this isn't his exit from the American stage,
his story is nowhere near close to over.
- Mm-hmm. -All rise.
All right, you may be seated.
All right, could you hand the verdict
to Ms. Matusek-Steele, please. Thank you.
Question number one,
4,200,000 dollars.
Question number two,
20,500,000 dollars.
Question number three,
20,500,000 dollars.
It's the end of the beginning.
And boy, are these clients happy about it.
There was certainly a message
sent out of this courthouse today, that's for sure.
So, what's your message?
To other parents, I wanted to represent you well.
I know that you have endured pain,
um, just like I have over the past ten years.
I truly do hope and believe that this will usher in
a new era of the importance of truth.
It was obviously higher than we wanted,
higher than I believe was supported by the evidence,
but it was still a manageable number.
You know, kept my client alive.
So, it's day one of another Alex Jones
defamation trial here in Connecticut.
We're about 20 miles away from Newtown.
Even ten years after the Sandy Hook tragedy,
these Sandy Hook families and victims
are still facing harassment
because Jones spread lies and called the shooting a hoax.
They're coming for everybody, ladies and gentlemen.
"Alex Jones goes to trial for a second time
in Sandy Hook hoax case."
But I'll tell you this,
we can stay on air through everything they're doing
if we keep fighting and don't give up.
But it takes massive money.
Don't go through everything you've done
supporting this broadcast and then give up at the end.
Now is the most critical time ever
to support infowarsstore.com.
- Morning.
Each of you was chosen to be here today
to compensate them for their grief.
And you're being asked to make an example of Alex.
Money is their weapon of choice.
Money is their weapon.
Disarm them.
First, they came for Alex Jones.
Who's next?
My name is David Wheeler.
Last name spelled W-H-E-E-L-E-R.
- Francine Wheeler. - Erica Lafferty.
My name is Nicole Hockley.
I do.
Our families will take the stand
and they will testify.
It took a lot of courage
to start this case in the first place,
knowing that they would expose themselves to even more abuse.
Are you the father
- of Benjamin Wheeler? - Yes.
And did Benjamin Wheeler die in the Sandy Hook shooting?
Yes.
Just after the two-year anniversary,
I was on my way to a birthday party
and I was at a gas station
and somebody just walked out and pointed
and was like, "You're part of that Sandy Hook hoax."
And they said, "Look, see, she's an actor."
People were, you know, accusing me of lying,
telling me Ben never lived,
uh, telling me that I was going to burn in hell,
and that I would pay for what I had done.
You know, things would be mailed to my house.
There were, you know,
threats of rape and...
You were receiving threats from people
saying they were going to rape you?
Correct.
Someone came to the house. This person demanded to see Ben.
"I know he's here. I know he's alive."
Is this still happening to you?
Yes.
You know, it makes you feel like you don't matter.
You know, it makes you feel like what you went through
doesn't matter.
Jacqueline Barden, B-A-R-D-E-N. Daniel was our baby,
but yet, he was so compassionate.
Did you and Mark get threatening letters?
Yeah. One-- I remember one saying
that they were at Daniel's grave,
and they had peed on his grave
because they didn't think anybody, you know,
they didn't believe that Daniel was buried.
And another letter--
These letters came to your home?
- What's that? -These letters
- came to your home? - Yeah. And then another letter
was that they were gonna...
they were gonna dig Daniel's grave up,
because he wasn't there, to prove it.
My name is Mark Barden.
That was a very typical moment.
He was a very affectionate little boy.
It was grueling. It was excruciating,
mostly because we had to re-expose ourselves
to the very thing that we were trying to stop.
To stand there in the austerity
of a court of law and to expose all of that.
It's about the most vulnerable one can feel.
So, it's a whole lot.
It's a whole lot of everything all at once.
Daniel's grave, um, this is so sacrosanct
and hallowed a place for my family,
and to hear that people were desecrating it
and urinating on it and threatening to dig it up...
I-- I don't know how to articulate to you
what that feels like, but that's where we are.
Hello everybody.
I'm here for the four-year planned show trial...
Alex Jones. He's under subpoena to be here.
So, you know, there's real consequences for him
if he doesn't show.
They're using these families as pawns.
I have questioned hundreds of major events,
and I've always done it from a good place.
That's why I have a giant audience
of millions and millions of loyal listeners,
because they know, unlike the corporate controlled media,
I try to tell the truth.
These people lie on purpose.
That's a big difference. I've made mistakes by accident.
They're lying on purpose,
and they've misrepresented everything I've said and done.
Find the real Alex Jones at infowars.com.
And we have the number one book in the world,
The Great Reset: And the War for the World,
that exposes the globalists, Klaus Schwab, the WEF,
and the New World Order.
And that's why they're coming after me, trying to silence me,
because liberty and freedom is popular,
and they will not silence me, and we will not be stopped,
and America will prevail peacefully
with justice and liberty.
The answer to the 1984 tyranny is 1776. Thank you very much.
I didn't know how I would react
when I saw him in person.
You know, in Texas he was on,
"I'm a good guy, I'm your friend,"
and that tone was completely different in Connecticut.
He was angry.
He looked pissed.
Like, "I don't want to be here, I shouldn't be here."
He wouldn't even look at us in Connecticut.
He wouldn't acknowledge us.
It was like we didn't even exist.
He didn't want to say like, "Hey, I'm sorry,"
'cause he wasn't. He wasn't sorry.
There's a part of you that...
wants him to feel what you feel.
See what he has caused. You want some moment...
of connecting with this abuser...
where he can just have an inkling of respect for you,
or a moment of reflection.
And he wasn't going to give us that.
The lie you spread...
for years and years
was that the families behind me were actors, correct?
- I can't answer-- -That's a yes or no.
-No, objection. - It's too complex--
- Sorry. -Motion in limine.
Mr. Jones, for years and years and years,
you acknowledge that among the things that you said
about Sandy Hook was that it was fake?
- Yes? - Yes.
-Synthetic? - Yes.
-Manufactured? - Yes.
-With actors? - Yes.
-Total hoax? - Yes.
You acknowledge that, repeatedly, you mocked parents?
I'm-- no, not parents.
I said Robbie Parker looked fake to me.
He carries a presence with him.
There's an energy with him, and it draws people,
even people who are disgusted by him, as I am.
You still can't take your eyes off of him, right?
You can't help but follow him around,
and I hate to admit that.
Robbie Parker's sitting right here.
And for years, you put a target on his back, didn't you?
Objection to the form of that, judge.
Overruled.
You put a target on his back,
just like you did every single parent
and loved one sitting here, didn't you?
-Objection, judge. -No, I didn't.
-No, you didn't? -That's argumentative.
- There's no-- It's speculative. -Let's move on.
These are real people. You know that, Mr. Jones?
Objection. I think you just told him to move on.
Just like all the Iraqis you liberals kill and love.
You're just-- you're unbelievable.
You switch on emotions on and off when you want.
You're-- It's just ambulance-chasing.
Why don't you show a little respect, Mr. Jones?
Objection, judge.
I think you get what you give in this courtroom.
Objection.
You have families in this courtroom here
that lost children, sisters, wives,
moms.
Is this a struggle session? Are we in China?
I've already said I'm sorry hundreds of times,
and I'm done saying I'm sorry.
I didn't progenerate this.
I wasn't the first person to say it.
American gun owners didn't like being blamed for this
as the Left did, so we rejected it mentally
and said it must not be true.
But I legitimately thought it might have been staged,
and I stand by that, and I don't apologize for it.
And don't apologize, Mr. Jones.
Please, don't apologize.
No, I've already apologized to the parents
- over and over again. -Because we know--
- I don't apologize to you. -Objection. Objection.
I don't apologize to you.
You're gonna do it again, aren't you?
-Objection, Judge. -Aren't you?
- No, I'm not. -You're not?
Objection. Objection. Argumentative.
I don't apologize to you.
This is your homepage, right? Infowars.com?
-Yes. -Three weeks ago.
A little bit bigger, please.
Just the part with the survey there.
And you're asking your audience,
"What will be the most likely deep state false flag
- ahead of the midterms," right? -Yes.
What's the first option?
Mass shooting, but I didn't write the poll.
Excuse me, sir. Mass shooting?
Yes.
And you're inviting your audience, even now,
even after all this, to suspect
that the next people, the next Robbie Parker,
the next family are actors, too.
-Objection, argumentative. - No.
-Overruled. - I'm done, Your Honor.
What I ultimately wanted to do
was to get the jury to see
just how dangerous this man is likely to be in the future.
This is gonna happen again,
and he knows what he's gonna say.
You know, what you want is the truth
of, like, the rottenness at his core to be revealed.
Uh, you get a lot of that through the videos,
but until you see him in court do his thing,
it's different.
You got parents laughing, going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"
and then going...
Method acting, going...
"Oh, my child!"
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Is that what you did, Mr. Parker?
The fake crying, the method acting?
No.
This is a few months later.
And then you've got parents laughing, going, "Ha ha ha,"
and then they walk over to the camera and go...
That was September 2014.
Mr. Parker, your family's still deluged
with the threats and harassment?
They would come in these waves.
And it was almost like I knew when Alex Jones said something,
because we would get a huge wave of stuff,
more and more and more attacks.
I started to hate that-- that video.
That video, you mean the video of yourself?
Exactly.
Exhibit 20A, December 27th, 2014.
And then the parents laughing, and then one second later,
doing the actor breathing to cry.
I mean, it's just-- it's just over the top.
-2015 now. -Stinks to high heaven.
You got the actor father who comes out,
gets into character.
On November 18th, 2016.
Then we see footage
of one of the reported fathers of the victims, Robbie Parker,
doing classic acting training,
where he's laughing and joking, and they say, "Hey, we're live,"
and he goes, "Oh."
I already felt like I failed Emilie as a dad
when she was alive.
Because I...
because we sent her to school.
And I was especially starting to feel like I was failing her
in her death,
because of what people were saying about her.
And what they were saying about me trying to remember her.
The most powerful thing for me about doing that was
that I finally got to put my voice out there.
And I got to...
I got to put my experience out there
in a way that actually really mattered.
Like, take that press conference that I gave.
He had taken it from me.
He defiled it. He literally just
shit all over one of the most important things
I feel like I've ever done in my life.
And so to be given an opportunity to, like,
take that back, that's the most precious thing
I think I can take away from this trial.
So, I trust that the jury has been fantastic,
and they've been very attentive, and they're gonna do
what they feel is best,
and I'm happy with whatever that is.
But I've got what I need out of this already.
So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
here you are tasked with addressing the issue of damages,
as the court previously determined
that the defendants are liable.
It is for you alone to decide on the amount of damages
in this case.
The verdict needs to reflect
the kind of exponential harm that lies can now have.
And I don't think Alex Jones has ever really appreciated that.
And people like him, and him, need to appreciate that.
And the only way to make them appreciate it,
I think, is to hang a big verdict around their head.
They're about to announce the verdict.
Let's go to the audio
of the biggest show trial in U.S. history.
The judge looks pleased.
Probably 200 million dollars.
I don't have any money, so it's all a big joke.
This is their trial. This is them on trial.
This is ambulance-chasing on steroids.
Come on, crucify me. Let's get it going.
Saveinfowars.com, infowarsstore.com.
To plaintiff Robbie Parker.
A, defamation slash slander damages past and future,
60 million dollars.
- Yeah! -B, emotional distress damages...
- Whoo! - ...past and future,
60 million dollars.
Total fair, just, and reasonable damages
to plaintiff Robert Parker and against Alex Jones
and Free Speech Systems, under line A and line B,
total 120 million dollars.
I didn't know how to feel,
except for just like this big sense of like relief.
And then that sense of validation came through.
And then that sense of, like...
like you're seen,
and you're understood, and you're loved, and...
And I-- I could feel it from everywhere.
And it was really overwhelming.
To plaintiff David Wheeler,
55 million dollars.
Yeah! Whoo!
To plaintiff Francine Wheeler,
total 54 million dollars.
To plaintiff Jacqueline Barden,
28,800,000 dollars.
Bravo.
To plaintiff Mark Barden,
57,600,000 dollars.
Nine hundred sixty-five million
is what it was.
And, um, I just remember thinking, like,
"There's no way that Alex Jones
is going to be able to sell enough supplements
to be able to pay that off."
Guess what? We're not scared, and we're not going away.
So, please, go to infowarsstore.com
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Flood us with donations.
Today, a jury representing our community
and our nation rendered a historic verdict,
a verdict against Alex Jones's lies
and their poisonous spread.
This jury bore witness to Alex Jones's ten-year attack,
an attack that made him very rich,
an attack that targeted these families
with the lie that they were frauds.
And all for Alex Jones's personal profit.
All Alex Jones does is take from you,
exploit you, lie to you,
feed your fears
and your anxieties and your mistrust,
and the only person that benefits
in that equation is him.
Well, that stops. That's stopping today,
thanks to the courage of these families.
Thank you very much.
It's the biggest verdict in a defamation case
in United States history.
The reason that it's so big
is because there has never been technology
capable of spreading a lie so fast
and causing so much damage as we have now.
I think a really insidious problem
that we're just as a society figuring out how to deal with,
and these cases are one way.
They're not the only way,
but I think they're going to end up being an important way.
And we have the families to thank for that.
Why are people willing to believe
invented, manufactured lies
that can be shut down in a second,
that can be debunked with the simplest of actions?
Why? Why are they so thirsty for it?
Why are they ingesting it? Why are they believing it?
That question goes far beyond what happened in this case,
because I can guarantee you,
we can solve the Alex Jones problem,
but we will not solve the greater problem
that allowed Alex Jones to flourish.
And Spiderman defeated the Goblin,
and the Goblin fighting back was still alive...
This was his backpack.
He always had, um, stuffed animals.
First grade homework packet,
that's what he should've brought home that day,
and didn't get to.
This is the jacket he wore on that fateful day.
It's just a... a way to link with him.
Noah, he was cheated.
He was cheated of life.
And he was cheated afterwards...
of honoring that life...
by people who purported that...
you know, they were bringing "the truth" to light.
When, in fact, what they were doing
was desecrating his memory.