- [Interviewer] All right.
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If you could just have a seat right there, please.
- Is that good? - Yes.
Can I get a mic check please?
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- Check, check. Good? - Perfect.
- Bob, you ready?
- [Bob] Yes. - Okay.
- [Interviewer] All right, sit down interview.
Take one. Marker.
So, why don't we start by you telling us
why you've chosen to do this interview.
- Great question. I really don't know. (chuckling)
I think that I'm doing this interview
mainly because so much has happened recently
and I really don't know the best way
to divulge that information,
so I figured why not try a sit down interview
and see how that goes?
- [Interviewer] Well, how do you think it's gonna work out?
- Like I said, I don't know,
but we'll find out soon enough, right?
- [Interviewer] So it should be known that you hired me
to do this interview, correct?
- Right.
- [Interviewer] So where would you choose to start?
- I've thought about this.
I think we should start with the manifesto.
- [Interviewer] And what is that?
- Well, it's a tape.
And it's kind of like
the other tapes we received but it's...
Am I allowed to talk about the other tapes?
- [Bob] Just make it pretty.
- Well, it's like the other tapes,
but it's an actual manifesto.
And it goes into details
as to why he created this whole game where he is...
How should I say this?
You watch me on this, Bob.
It goes into detail as to why he created this game
and how he's not just a killer,
but he is like a chooser
of those who live and those who die.
- [Interviewer] So is it some kind of God complex?
Do you think that's what it is?
- We don't know that yet,
but it's become very evident
that everything leading up to this point
has been on purpose.
That everything down to the smallest detail
has been meticulously thought out well in advance,
quite possibly years in advance.
And it's become the most clear
that the only way this guy's ever gonna get caught
is if he chooses to be.
And based on his manifesto,
I don't see that happening anytime soon.
- [Interviewer] And why is that?
Does he allude to something like he's not finished?
- Bob, am I allowed to answer that?
- [Bob] Thinking about it real quick. Just answer vaguely.
- Can you ask that question again please?
- [Interviewer] Are you insinuating
his manifesto says that he's not finished?
(ominous music)
- He's not even close to being finished.
(ominous music continues)
- [Man On The Radio] I treasure each day that I'm alive.
I treasure the air that I breathe.
While so many others take that same air for granted.
What would happen if I told someone
that today would be their last,
that I would be the one taking their breath away.
However, if I were to let them go
their next day would always stand as a reminder.
A reminder to live each day as though it was your last.
A reminder of how precious the great gift is
that we were given.
The gift of life.
(Ominous music fading)
- Stay there, stay. Oh.
Clap slate.
Well, I'm back, unfortunately.
Turn the camera back on because as you know,
some (beeping) has gone down.
So this is where he was standing in my house,
April 4th, 2022, right here.
Watching me sleep on my bed over there.
But that's not all that happened, you know,
when I saw him standing over here on the security footage,
I went to go and check the security cameras.
But unfortunately, nothing recorded after that instant.
So I was like, that's too coincidental.
How is that possible that all that footage disappeared?
Well, I found out and it's pretty (beeping) disturbing.
So this is the email that I got
from the manufacturer of my security system
a few weeks before this guy broke in.
"Dear Value customer,
due to recent security updates
with our cloud-based recording system,
we are requiring all users to log in.
Failure to log in
will result in possible service interruption
and/or termination of your cloud-based subscription.
We appreciate your cooperation
and apologize for any inconvenience.
Please follow the link provided
to ensure no loss of service."
Which I did.
I did what they wanted
because I paid for this service monthly
and I didn't wanna lose it.
So I did exactly what I was instructed and I logged in.
The only problem is they never sent me this email,
and I know that 'cause I just checked with them.
So he sent me this email and this login link is fake.
He phished for my username and password
and I gave it to him.
But why is that bad? What can he do with that?
Well, he can watch my camera feeds at any given moment.
He can actually lock and unlock my front and back door.
I gave him the keys to my house
all because I'm a moron.
Something most of you already know right now.
Now, if anybody's watching this and asking, you know,
"Why are you conveniently filming all of a sudden?"
And I'm like, well, there's a reason I'm about to show you.
I haven't said anything yet.
This is what I found in my closet door.
Keep in mind, he was standing right here looking at me,
and then all the footage after that doesn't exist.
However, I found this this morning, look.
(suspenseful music)
And at first I didn't know what it was, obviously.
And then I was like, there's words on it.
"Wherever you go, there you are.
Back on track, you're not that far.
Away from your goal, don't be distraught.
The remaining victims of whom you have sought."
And then it says, "As the crow flies."
I'm taking it off.
(suspenseful music)
All right, let's open it up.
Oh, there's a...
Oh, (beeping) I just noticed this.
I just turned it over. There's something on the other side.
So shortly after I opened the bag
and pulled out whatever this thing is.
And as you can see,
it's made of wood and has a red ring around the outside.
Also on the front, it has an arrow at the top,
a bird and a compass direction.
So that's when I decided to take high resolution photos
and 3D scans to send at Ramey down in Florida.
However, that's when I noticed something.
You may remember in the previous film
when I found this puzzle in a mailbox
located in the woods near the Lightfoot house.
Well, what I realized
is that the two clues share the same shape.
And not only do they share the same shape,
they're in fact the exact same size.
And not to mention
that they both make a reference to a bird.
But then there's a compass direction at the bottom.
And you can point in that direction all day long,
but you don't know where to start.
And that's what's missing from this whole thing.
So I'm hoping that somehow we can figure out
where the starting point is for this direction.
Hey, hold on. I'm getting into my car.
Hold on one second. - Okay.
- Okay, so what is it?
- [Ramey] We received a suspicious package this morning
and inside was an audio cassette tape.
- Is it like the other one?
- [Ramey] It looks very similar to the other tape, yes.
- Hey, let me call you back when I get home, okay?
- [Ramey] All right.
- All right, I'll call you right back.
- [Ramey] Bye.
- So this won't make sense to anybody
unless I back up for a second.
What I'm about to disclose wasn't disclosed to me
until well after my last documentary release,
so I'm sorry if this is confusing in any way.
So we have to go back
to when they found Susan McAllister's body on April 3rd.
One of the investigators notice a cassette tape
sitting in one of the victim's pockets.
When they pulled it out,
there was a label on it that read "Tape number one," okay?
Now I don't know what's on this tape
because they never let me hear it.
However, flash forward to today.
Another cassette tape arrives in the mail to the department,
this time with a label that reads "Tape number two."
And now apparently
they're just so confused about these mysterious tapes
that they've resorted to ask it for my help. (chuckling)
All right, I got you.
Can you hear me?
- [Ramey] Yeah.
- So, you know, I never heard what was on the first tape.
The tape you found on her. I never heard that.
- [Ramey] Well, I just sent it to your email.
It should be in there. - All right, I got it.
I'm recording. Can I play it?
- Sure, go ahead. - Okay.
- [Man On Recording] This is a test to see your capability.
If you pass this test,
you'll be met with another for further down the road.
- What the hell was that?
- [Ramey] I know, right?
- I gotta play it again. Hold on one second.
- [Man On Recording] This is a test to see your capability.
If you pass this test,
you'll be met with another for further down the road.
- I don't know. Is that it?
- [Ramey] Yeah.
- That's all that was on the first tape?
- [Ramey] Yeah, that was everything.
- So what was on the tape you got today?
- [Ramey] It was the exact same recording actually.
- That can't be right, man.
- [Ramey] Why?
- You must be missing something.
There has to be a difference between the two tapes.
Why would he present us with two of the same tape
and then label them differently, right?
I have a question.
How did you conclude
that there's no difference between the two tapes?
- [Ramey] Well, I listened to them.
- Wait a minute, man.
Who analyzed the tapes?
- [Ramey] Nobody.
- You're telling me that your conclusion
that these two tapes are the same
is because you listened to them and they sounded similar,
so they must be the same tape?
- [Ramey] I don't understand.
How else would you determine
if two tapes were different or the same?
- Oh my gosh, man.
- [Ramey] What?
- Oh my gosh.
- [Ramey] What is it?
- So to explain this really fast,
which is something a lot of people never cared to realize
is that audio cassette tapes though analog
can still hold data,
data that can be hidden within the audio itself.
And the easiest way to find this data
is by converting the audio into a digital waveform.
One of these funny looking things,
which allows a computer to easily spot differences
between two similar recordings.
Listen...
- [Ramey] Stop laughing at me right now.
- We have to hang up right now,
and you have to mail me those tapes.
I'll sign whatever documents you need,
but you have to send me those tapes right now.
- [Ramey] I don't understand.
- Well, that's the problem.
You don't understand how to properly determine
if these two tapes are different.
And that is something I do know how to do actually.
- [Ramey] I just don't know.
- I just, dude, you gotta trust me.
- [Ramey] When do you want them?
- Overnight them. I'll be here to sign for it.
So considering my deputy privileges were still active,
the only document that made me sign
was one that held me legally responsible
in the case that the tapes were lost or stolen
while in my possession.
So I signed and returned that document.
Then the following morning was met by a courier
who delivered the mysterious tapes.
So here we are.
I got the package, gotta open it up.
All right.
Wow.
That is blood.
Jesus (beeping) Christ.
The tape on top
is obviously the one they found on the victim,
judging by the blood on the tape.
And tape number two
is the one that arrived to the Florida Department
yesterday morning via the mail.
Why are these two tapes in my garage? Great question.
It's because the Department of Dinosaurs
claims that these two tapes are identical.
And I say no way.
So they were nice enough to send me the tapes
because I'm gonna try to prove 'em wrong.
I'm gonna go take 'em into my office, digitize 'em,
and see if the computer can't spot the difference
between the two, which I think it will.
So that's what we're gonna go do right now.
We need to cut these cameras. Cut.
(suspenseful music)
- [Man On Recording] This is a test to see your capability.
If you pass this test,
you'll be met with another for further down the road.
This is a test to see your capability.
If you pass this test,
you'll be met with another for further down the road.
- Okay, so I got some good news.
There is a difference between these two tapes as I thought.
And thanks to stereo headphones,
I was able to find the difference almost immediately.
Didn't even need a computer to help me.
So here are the two digitized tapes.
Tape one is on top, tape two is on the bottom.
Some of you can probably already see the difference,
but for those who can't, I'll explain.
So these tapes are stereo,
which means each tape consists of two separate channels,
a left and a right, okay?
Tape one as you can see has a similar looking signal
on both but stereo channels,
which is typical with stereo audio.
What's not typical is tape number two,
which has two totally different looking channels.
So real quick before I get too far ahead,
let's just play tape two normally.
- [Man On Recording] This is a test to see your capability.
If you pass this test,
you'll be met with another for further down the road.
- So it sounds fine, right? Sounds like the first tape.
Except now,
listen what happens when I turn off the left channel.
Now, some of you might not even be able to hear this,
but there's a series of low frequency beeps playing.
So I asked myself what would happen
if I raised that to a common frequency,
something we can all hear, you get this.
(beeping sound)
So my first thought, sounds like Morse code.
So I thought what would happen
if I dropped it into a free online Morse translator?
Well, you get this.
Bartow, Florida, under the Peace River Bridge.
A message written in audio,
hidden on the right channel of tape number two,
giving us none other than what I was hoping for.
A location. (sighs)
Looks like I'm going to Florida.
(light music)
So here we are in the house
and you can see it's still under construction.
That's why I'm gonna be sleeping in that camper
you saw me hauling in.
But anyway, regardless, you might notice
some of the usual ghost hunting toys around here,
like the block letters, keyboard, speaking machines,
it's 'cause they permanently live here now.
Because, honestly, not much activity happens anymore
either here or at my personal house.
I figured what better place for it to live than here.
Just in case something does happen,
the security cameras will get it on tape and I'll know.
But I always like to bring something new when I come down.
I brought a new toy with me and it's pretty sick.
So this is a still shot camera with a flash on top.
And over here is a motion sensor.
And you might recognize this motion sensor
from some of the previous movies I did.
You might remember it was actually set off a few times
in my previous films,
so I figured why not turn this thing into a trigger?
So I added a simple wireless modification to the back,
which connects it to the camera,
so that means if anything trips it,
it takes a picture and sends it to my cloud
and I'll know that something set it off.
Well, anyway, I got a long trip
because I'm still gonna try to make it down to Bartow today,
which is like a hundred miles.
So I better get going right now.
So as I made the long trip down to Bartow
to find the Peace River Bridge,
I found myself getting more and more nervous closer I got
because you have to remember that up to this point
I hadn't told any authorities about my discovery
and I was the only person besides the killer
who knew about this bridge.
So I'm here at the Peace River Bridge
and at first glance it looks like a normal bridge,
but apparently there's something abnormal
waiting to be found below it.
So I'm a little scared, but I drove all this way,
so I'm not about to go home without looking underneath it.
The only problem is
it looks like the only way to get down there
is I see a trail over there
and I think that's what leads down to the bottom.
So I'm gonna take this trail and see where it leads. Cut.
- [Interviewer] When you went down there,
what did you think you'd find below the bridge?
- Honestly, I had no idea what I was gonna find.
If I was even gonna find anything at all, to be honest.
I just knew that it was my job to keep filming
in the case that I did find something.
So I followed the trail down to below the bridge,
and when I got there,
I immediately started looking around for, you know,
anything that might be outta place or abnormal.
But the problem was
that it was just actually such a large area to search.
I never expected that whatever it was
that I was supposed to be looking for
would be so hard to find.
And I was down there for over an hour
before I decided to finally give up.
You know, it just became clear
that I wasn't gonna find anything.
So I started looking for the trail
that would lead me back to my truck,
and as fate would have it,
just as I was starting to quit, that's when I saw it.
So I just spotted something.
I think I know what this is, actually.
This...
I gotta go back to my car and get it,
but I think I know what this is.
Yep.
So I got this outta my car and I'm gonna see if it fits.
So as you can see, there's an arrow on this.
There's an arrow on this thing I just found.
So when I align the arrows,
they sink up and point in that direction,
which according to my compass on my phone
is exactly 359 degrees,
so there's something off in that direction.
(suspenseful music)
Well, I just found something quite interesting.
Yeah, let me explain.
So I'm looking at a digital map here on my computer.
And when I plotted a line
from the location under the bridge today
in the direction of 359.31, when I draw a line,
it goes right through this house, right through it.
That's too coincidental, so it means something.
What? I have no idea, but...
I have no idea what I was about to say.
I can't think anymore,
so I am gonna start drinking some beer,
go to bed. (laughing)
(suspenseful music)
(ominous music)
(camera shutters)
(phone vibrating)
So something just tripped the camera inside
and it snapped a picture in my phone.
Just woke me up to let me know.
Could be a false alarm, but...
I don't see any...
I don't see any lights on in there but I'm gonna...
I'm gonna go in and check it out.
Oh, (beeping).
(cicadas buzzing) (suspenseful music)
(door screeching)
(suspenseful music)
(camera shutters)
- [Jordan] So in regards to the clue
we're trying to help you with,
we're kind of at a standstill.
And everyone on the forum has kind of either lost interest
or just given up at this point.
- I can't say I didn't see that coming.
So this guy Jordan, who I met a while back on a forum,
has been trying to help me solve this riddle
for some time now.
And as you can imagine,
things aren't going so hot right now.
- [Jordan] Regarding "Where birds like to stay,"
I think that's the real puzzle here.
- I agree. I totally agree.
I think that without it we can't figure out anything else.
- [Jordan] You know, I just wanted to call
and tell you that even though everyone else
has kind of given up, I'm still here for you.
- Well, man, that means a lot. I appreciate it.
I mean, it's just me and you now, so...
Hey, Jordan, I'm sorry I have to do this,
but do you mind if I call you right back?
- [Jordan] No, not at all.
- Alright, cool man. - All right.
- All right, see you. - See you.
(phone ringing)
- [Ramey] Yeah.
- Hey, Ramey, can you hear me?
- [Ramey] Yeah.
- So what happened?
- [Ramey] Are you still in Florida by chance?
- No, I had to come back home for something. What's up?
- [Ramey] So we got another clue in the mail this morning.
- Okay.
- [Ramey] It's an index card,
and at the top it says "Cipher is now numbers."
- "Cipher is now numbers?"
- [Ramey] Yeah. You got any idea what that means?
- I mean, I can't be for certain without seeing it.
Could you send me a copy of the note?
- [Ramey] I already sent it to your inbox.
- All right. I'll call you back once I take a look at it.
- [Ramey] Cool.
- All right, see ya. - Bye.
- So here we are in front of my computer again,
and here's the new note they got this morning.
And it says "Cipher is now numbers."
And as you can see
there are a bunch of numbers at the bottom here.
Now, I'm no genius, but up to this point,
we've only been presented with one kind of cipher.
And that was this thing that I got a long time ago
that ultimately led to the discovery
of Susan Forrester's body.
So I figured simply outta curiosity,
what would happen if I plugged these numbers
into that cipher?
Well, you get the following message, "You have mail."
So my immediate reaction was to go out and check my mailbox
because this guy's been known
to leave me gifts from time to time.
However, my mailbox was empty,
so I started to wrap my head around it.
What else do I know of that's mail related?
And then it hit me.
Hey, can you hear me?
So I have a theory as to what this means.
(suspenseful music)
Hey, so I found something.
- [Ramey] What?
- It's another block of wood, kinda like the other one.
It's got a bird arrow and a compass direction,
except for the outside edge is green instead of red.
- [Ramey] Okay. Is that it?
- No, on the back, there are coordinates
and it says "Go alone."
- [Ramey] Do you know where the coordinates lead?
- Yeah, I looked it up.
It's some abandoned development
outside of Palm Bay, Florida.
It's like 120 miles away from here.
It's out in the middle of nowhere.
- [Ramey] That sounds kind of dangerous.
Please tell me you're not thinking
of going out there by yourself.
- That's why I'm calling, man. I need you to do me a favor.
Listen, if I don't call you by 9:00 tonight,
can you send somebody out there looking for me?
- [Ramey] I don't like this.
You shouldn't be going out there by yourself man, I'm sorry.
- Listen, please just do what I ask. Can you do it?
(suspenseful music)
So here, I'm in Palm Bay,
and I'm following the coordinates on the GPS
which as you can see is taking me in the middle of nowhere.
A little scary because the further I go, the deeper I get.
And it's a little disconcerting, a little scary.
I don't know what's waiting for me at this spot,
but I ain't gonna dilly dally as soon as I find,
I'm getting (beeping) the outta here.
But anyway, GPS says I'm coming up on it soon,
so I gotta get the cameras ready. Cut.
(suspenseful music)
All right, we're pulling up on it.
(suspenseful music continues)
(keys clanking)
I see something.
(suspenseful music continues)
So I found what he wanted me to find on the ground here
and the little placard fit right inside
and it points right in that direction through my truck.
Don't know what that means, but it means something.
And I'm so far out here, I'm starting to get the jitters
because I feel like somebody's watching me right now
and it is unsettling.
'Cause if I were to yell or do anything,
nobody would even know it.
So I'm gonna get in my truck right now and I'm gonna go.
Boy, it's scary out here, man.
This is creepy. Get outta here.
(suspenseful music)
(phone ringing)
(suspenseful music)
- [System] Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.
Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.
(camera shutters)
Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.
(suspenseful music)
(phone ringing)
- [Joe's Gun Range Staff] Joe's Gun Range.
- Hi, good evening.
I just wanna see how late you guys are open today?
(gun firing)
- [Man] Cease fire.
Cease fire on the range.
Everyone, put your weapons down.
Who did that?
- That was me.
So something recently crossed my mind
and that's that a lot of people are gonna think,
unless I address it,
that the guy standing behind me in this picture
is Joseph William Lightfoot.
And if you don't remember who Joseph William Lightfoot is,
he's the guy I interviewed a long time ago
who's the son of James Lightfoot.
What I never told anybody is that me and Joe
actually became friends after that interview
and we've stayed in touch over the years.
So I can assure you, and you're just gonna trust me,
it's not him.
However, I did recently decide to give him a call
just to see if there was maybe some family members of his
that I wasn't aware of.
So this is the conversation that happened.
- [Joseph] You know, I don't known what family
my dad had before.
- Right.
- [Joseph] Yeah, I remember trying to find
what family my dad, the history.
I mean, it's...
But I couldn't find it.
- Well, I remember you saying once
that your father was in a previous marriage, correct?
- [Joseph] I think that's right. Yeah.
- Well, do you know if he had any children in that marriage?
So unfortunately, the crappy audio recorder
that I was using during this interview
decided to cut out right before he mentioned
a very important detail.
And it was that when he was a kid,
he briefly heard his mother say that his father,
James Lightfoot or the Lightfoot Killer,
had an adopted son from a previous marriage.
Now, Joe went on to say
that he wasn't even sure if this is true,
but he did remember hearing it.
And I was like,
well that's a big detail because of one thing,
"A father can be a father regardless of law,
regardless of genetics, regardless of all."
And it just so happens that an adopted son,
if one exists, fits that description perfectly.
So I'm definitely interested to find out more about this.
(phone ringing) (sighs)
Hey Jordan, I just got your text.
So what is it that you want me to look at?
- [Jordan] So I sent you a map.
Can you pull it up on the computer real quick?
- Yeah, I got it open. I'm looking at it right now.
- [Jordan] Okay, so when you went to the Peace River Bridge
and placed the engraving in the stone,
when you draw a line in the direction it indicates
it goes right through the Lightfoot house, correct?
- That is correct.
- [Jordan] So when you went to Palm Bay
and placed the second engraving,
were you also aware that if you draw a line
in the direction it indicates,
it too goes right through the house?
- Huh?
You know, I kind of suspected it, but I never confirmed it.
So you're sure the second one goes through the house too?
- [Jordan] Yes. - Wow.
- [Jordan] That is correct.
- Any idea what that means?
- [Jordan] Nah, not at the moment,
but I'm not gonna give up on this.
- Well, hey man, just keep doing your thing.
Just know that I appreciate your help.
- [Jordan] You got it, man.
I'll talk to you soon, all right?
- All right, thanks a lot Jordan.
- [Jordan] No problem. - All right, same.
- [Jordan] Bye.
- Hmm.
- [Ramey] So, what's the plan?
You staying up there for a while longer?
- Yeah, I'm in no hurry
to get back down to Florida right now.
I just can't get it outta my head
how he was standing right behind me.
How he somehow knows everything before I do.
Any luck? Find anything regarding adoption records?
- [Ramey] Not yet, but I'll keep digging.
You know the orphanage records from those dates you gave me
still aren't digitized so it's slowing things down.
- Well, keep me posted if you don't mind.
I really think there's something there.
- [Ramey] All right.
- Well, hey, I'm pulling into my house.
You mind if I call you back later?
- [Ramey] No, go for it. - All right, cool man.
- All right. - I'll see you.
- See you. - Bye.
(suspenseful music)
Okay, so this is why I'm acting weird all of a sudden.
For the past few weeks,
I've noticed that every time I come home
my phone gives me this notification.
It says "Unknown device detected," right?
So I just thought it was my phone
getting back on the local network
as I pulled into my driveway.
Wrong, because I just pulled into my driveway
a few minutes ago,
got the same notification
except for this time it showed the device's name
that's trying to connect my home network.
Are you ready for this?
The device's name is Vehicle Tracker.
So, yeah.
(suspenseful music)
(phone ringing)
- [Ramey] Yeah?
- So I found out how he is always one step ahead of me.
- [Ramey] How?
- He put a tracking device on my truck.
- [Ramey] Well, how do you know it's a tracking device?
- Because it literally says tracking device right on it.
- [Ramey] Wait, he's probably paying
for some service to track you.
Maybe we could trace the credit card he's using for payment.
- Well, I thought about that, but then,
you know, bear with me.
So he doesn't know I found this thing, right?
- [Ramey] Okay. - Okay.
I put it back on my truck, pretend I never found it,
come back to Florida, he sees I'm in Florida,
he will make his way back out to the house.
- [Ramey] Okay, then what?
- Well, then we trap him.
What?
- [Ramey] Listen, you're not a cop, okay?
You shouldn't be planning anything.
You, the civilian, provide us, the authorities information.
And we, the authorities take proper action
with the investigation.
- Please don't treat me like that.
That hurts coming from you.
- [Ramey] That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying it's our job and not yours.
- I got news for you. Your investigation team sucks.
- [Ramey] Are you done?
- No. Are you gonna help me with this idea or not?
- [Ramey] No. And you shouldn't be putting yourself
in a dangerous situation like this.
- You know, I should've figured as much.
It makes perfect sense
as to why this case has been open for over 50 years
because I just handed you the perfect opportunity
to catch this guy and you're saying no, right?
So let me put this as kindly as I can.
I don't need your (beeping) help.
So pretend I didn't even ask.
And when I do catch him,
I will let you, the authorities know.
How about that?
So why don't you go (beeping) yourself.
Hello?
Ramey?
(phone beeping)
(suspenseful music)
Check.
All right, audio slate.
(clapping) Clap slate.
All right, this is in case
anybody finds me out here at the house dead.
Maybe then you'll know what happened.
So anybody who may be wondering
why I've chosen to use myself as bait
to lure an active serial killer
all the way out to the house, great question.
One, it's 'cause I'm stupid. (chuckling)
And two, it's because up to this point nobody will help me,
so I'm doing all this by myself.
Now I don't know much,
but I do know that this guy most likely knows
I'm here right now
because of the tracking device he put on my truck.
Which is why I've taken the liberty
of place in motion sensors all around the property
just in case he does show up,
which will most likely happen at night,
maybe tonight, I don't know.
And if he trips one of these sensors,
at least I'll know he is here.
So why would I come all the way down here
and put myself in such a dangerous situation?
Another great question.
It's because I don't think I have,
I've never mentioned this before to anybody,
but I don't think he wants to hurt me.
And the reason I think that
is why would you go outta your way to provide me puzzles,
clues and riddles and just to kill me?
It's 'cause he wouldn't.
I mean, he certainly had multiple opportunities to do so,
but he chose not to.
Why?
It's because fear can be a useful tool
when you want something accomplished on your behalf.
Like in this situation,
having me finish what he started years ago.
And he knows that I'm the best chance of accomplishing that.
So no, I don't think I've put myself
in a dangerous situation.
I hope I haven't, at least.
(suspenseful music)
So, here I am sitting in the darkness like an idiot,
waiting for I don't even know what at this point.
It's so late.
And I've had all this time sitting here
to realize finally
how stupid this whole plan really was.
Oh, my gosh.
I've been sitting here asking myself, you know,
what was it that I realistically hoped to achieve
by coming out here?
And the sad truth is I don't have an answer.
And not to mention that, you know,
I can't stop thinking of my kids
who are back home right now with my mom,
and I'm sitting down here doing this.
And I think that's what makes me feel so stupid.
You know, I've just been really...
You ever get so mad at yourself?
Frustrated with yourself
'cause you just question your judgment so much.
I've been questioning my judgment on a daily basis.
I mean, I enticed a serial killer
to come all the way out here into the middle of nowhere
and thought that could actually be a good thing.
Stupid.
God, you're so stupid.
Oh, God.
You know, when you make a mistake,
it makes it so much worse when you realize
the only person you can blame is yourself.
I made the mistake
of thinking this could somehow be a good idea.
And as usual, I proved to myself
that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
And the real fact of the matter is...
(piano playing)
(motion sensor device beeping)
- [System] Danger. D-A-N-G-E-R.
(door banging)
- Hello?
(door screeching)
Hello?
(phone ringing)
Hello?
Listen, I know it's you
and I know that you're here right now.
Look, I...
I don't know what it is you want from me
and I don't know why you keep on following me around,
but if you just tell me what it is
that you want me to do, I would do it.
Hello?
Listen, just say something.
Hello?
(man speaks indistinctly)
What? (phone drops)
Hello?
(phone beeping)
(ominous music)
(phone ringing)
- [Ramey] Yeah.
- Hey, so it's me.
- [Ramey] What's up? - Just calling to let you know
that he made his way out to the house last night.
- [Ramey] What happened?
- Well, you missed the perfect opportunity
and you let me down.
I'll talk to you later. - Hey.
- Bye.
(suspenseful music)
(phone vibrating)
Hello?
- [Jordan] Hey, it's Jordan.
- Hey, man, what's going on?
- [Jordan] Where are you right now?
Are you still in Florida by chance?
- No, I got home a couple days ago.
Wow. What's up?
- [Jordan] Listen, I don't know how to say this
without getting overly excited,
but I may have just figured out something huge.
- Okay, tell me what it is.
- [Jordan] Are you in front of your computer by chance?
- No, but I'm heading home right now.
I can be there in five minutes.
Just tell me what's going on.
- [Jordan] Alright, hurry up and get home.
Call me when you're front the computer.
I need you to look at something, okay?
- Okay, I'll be home in five minutes. I'll call you back.
- All right. - See ya.
All right, I'm here in front of my computer,
so what is it that you wanted me to look at?
- [Jordan] Okay, one of the first nights
you were at the house
and the camera snapped the picture by itself.
Can you pull up one of those pictures?
- Okay, hold on one second. Let me open it.
Okay, so I got it open.
What exactly am I looking for here?
- [Jordan] Okay, did you by chance
notice the word spell down on the refrigerator?
- No. Where is it?
- [Jordan] At the top right of the letters. Do you see it?
- Okay.
- [Jordan] So I'm assuming you didn't do that.
- No, I didn't.
- [Jordan] Okay, well that's good
because this next part's gonna blow your mind.
So when you posted your notes on the form,
you said you found something in that mailbox
that had a triangle in the back, correct?
- Yes.
- [Jordan] Well, look at the map I sent you before,
the one showing the lines drawn
from this two spots you visited.
- Okay, I'm looking at it.
- [Jordan] Well, if you connect all the spots,
you have a triangle, right?
- All right, keep going.
- [Jordan] Well, you can't see it on the map I sent you,
but if you zoom in, the line passes over Lake Kissimmee.
And after seeing the word island
spelled on the refrigerator,
I focus my attention to any islands
that might be in the lake.
- Okay.
- [Jordan] Just so happens that that line
goes right through one of the main islands of that lake.
Would you care to guess the name of that island?
- What is it?
- [Jordan] It is called Bird Island.
Does that ring any bells?
- "Where birds like to stay."
- [Jordan] Exactly.
"You can't get here by walking, so find another way."
It's an island.
- Oh, my god.
Listen, I'll call you right back, okay?
- [Jordan] Please do.
- Okay. - All right.
- Bye. - Bye.
(ominous music)
Oh, my God.
(light music)
- [Man] If you're up the creek with a paddle,
then you'll have an easier time.
(light music)
Discovering where they are buried,
otherwise, impossible to find.
You can't get here by walking, so find another way.
(light music)
Only so many of these nearby where birds like to stay.
If you figure out the riddle, you'll be on track to find.
(light music)
- [Lightfoot] My sins buried around the concrete headstone
which is one of a kind.
♪ And I can't find myself ♪
♪ And I can't find myself now ♪
(light music)
- [Man On The Radio] "By now,
you know that the bodies of those
who have patiently waited to be found lie beneath your feet.
Put there by the evil that I am.
Their discovery is way past due,
but one that was made thanks to you.
Thus, why I'm relieving you.
However, where one game ends, another may begin.
Only your choice will decide if you play.
Sincerely, Lightfoot."
(suspenseful music)
(phone vibrating)
Hello?
- [Ramey] Hey, it's Ramey.
- Yeah, I know. How's it going man?
- [Ramey] I just wanted to check in,
see how you've been doing.
- I've been alright.
Spending time with the kids,
trying to figure out what I'm gonna do
with all this extra spare time I didn't realize I had.
How you been?
- [Ramey] Not so good.
- Why is that?
- [Ramey] Because we just got something in the mail.
Something from him. It's another tape.
- Like the others?
- [Ramey] No. This one is different.
- Have you listened to it?
- [Ramey] Yes. - And?
Ramey?
- [Ramey] He's not finished.
(suspenseful music)