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[Olivia Rodrigo] How would I describe
this chapter of my life?

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[screams]

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[on radio]
♪ I got my driver's license last week ♪

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♪ Just like we always talked about ♪

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Oh, my God.

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It's on the radio.

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It's on the radio.

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♪ To finally drive up to your house ♪

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[radio deejay] You're listening
to the most popular song on the planet.

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It's "drivers license" by Olivia Rodrigo.

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♪ You weren't around-- ♪

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It's been the absolute craziest week
of my life.

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Wait,
so you're second semester senior year,

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and you just released your first single?

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Yeah, first semester. Yep.
Not even second.

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I'm like dying over here.

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Oh! For those of you just joining, I just
put out a song called "drivers license."

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It's my first debut-- What do we call it?
Debut single?

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This is, like, the first song that I wrote
from my perspective that is coming out.

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It's number one in the world
on, like, all streaming platforms

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and, like, breaking all these records.

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My entire life just shifted in an instant.

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My life is just so weird. Like, I don't--

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Like, I moved out of my house.
I'm, like, not living with my parents.

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My album's done.
I'm almost done with high school.

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So weird.
It's all, like, happening at once.

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[audio rewinds]

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-[tape clicks]
-[audio stops]

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Hi, I'm Olivia Rodrigo…

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from California.

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I just want to sing a little song
to my friends and family out there.

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Starting now.

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[film projector whirring]

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[Rodrigo]
Being in Salt Lake makes me think so much

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about the early days
when I first started writing Sour.

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I've always loved writing
really emotional songs.

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Like, I remember just writing these, like,
super angsty songs

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about, like, how I didn't fit into society
or something. [chuckles]

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I've always been so attracted
to music like that,

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that, like, hits these, like, deep parts
of the human psyche.

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I think being a songwriter is actually,
like, the best job and the best craft.

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There's nothing that connects people

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and there's nothing that is a truer window
into human emotion than music.

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[keyboard playing]

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["happier" playing]

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♪ We broke up a month ago ♪

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♪ Your friends are mine ♪

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♪ You know I know
You've moved on ♪

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♪ Found someone new ♪

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♪ One more girl
Who brings out the better in you ♪

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♪ And I thought my heart was detached ♪

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♪ From all the sunlight of our past ♪

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♪ But she's so sweet
She's so pretty ♪

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♪ Does she mean you forgot about me? ♪

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♪ Oh, I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
But don't be happier ♪

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♪ Do you tell her ♪

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♪ She's the most beautiful girl
You've ever seen? ♪

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♪ An eternal love bullshit
You know you'll never mean ♪

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♪ Remember when I believed ♪

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♪ You meant it
When you said it first to me? ♪

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♪ And now I'm picking her apart ♪

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♪ Like cutting her down
Will make you miss my wretched heart ♪

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♪ She's beautiful
She looks kind ♪

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♪ She probably gives you butterflies ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ I wish you all the best, really ♪

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♪ Say you love her, baby
Not like you loved me ♪

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♪ And think of me fondly
When your hands are on her ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
But don't be happier ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy ♪

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♪ Just not like how you were with me ♪

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♪ I'm selfish, I know
I can't let you go ♪

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♪ So find someone great
But don't find no one better ♪

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♪ I hope you're happy
Just don't be happier ♪

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[song ends]

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[Rodrigo] So much of the album was written
between Salt Lake City and Los Angeles.

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And so I thought it would be fun
to do a road trip one last time.

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I wanna play the songs in these places
that meant so much to me,

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and revisit them with older eyes, I guess.

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I remember posting
the song "happier" online

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and looking back on it and being like,
"Oh, my God. This song is terrible.

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It got no likes. I sang it really badly.
Why did I do that?"

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But I had this, like,
gut feeling to keep it up.

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That feeling served me well, 'cause
that song changed everything for me.

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The fact that I posted it
was the reason that I met Dan

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'cause he found it and was like,

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"Oh, my God. I love this song.
We should work together."

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That was the first song that
we produced together, was-- was "happier."

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Then I made the rest of my album with Dan.

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There you go. It's on.
I just did it wrong.

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[Nigro] I don't think that one's on.

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[camera beeps]

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[vocalizing]

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[Nigro chuckles] Yes.

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-[Rodrigo] What's that?
-The very first song we wrote together.

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I don't wanna hear it.
I literally don't wanna hear it.

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What is it?

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[on speaker] ♪ Crying in the parking lot ♪

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-[Rodrigo screams]
-[chuckles]

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♪ You don't know what you want ♪

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[Rodrigo] Sad Olivia! I was so sad!

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♪ Gave you everything ♪

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-♪ I guess everything ain't enough ♪
-[Rodrigo] Aw!

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♪ You say you lost your best friend
How do you think I feel? ♪

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♪ You say it's over again
And this time it's real ♪

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-[song ends]
-[Nigro] Oh!

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[Rodrigo] Oh, my God. I was so sad.
You don't know--

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I was so sad when I wrote that song.

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-Oh, my God.
-You were sad.

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I remember that day. I was so **** sad.

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-Really?
-Yeah.

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-Wow. Interesting.
-It was a long time ago.

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It was a long-- It was almost a year ago.

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-I know.
-It's crazy.

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-And I'm still not over it. Geez.
-[Nigro laughs]

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[Rodrigo] This relationship was definitely
like the heartbreak that kept on giving.

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[laughs] It was like I was
in the situation where I had to see him.

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He was with someone else, which was…
[scoffs] …like, devastating to me.

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Felt like my world was ending
almost every day.

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Nobody understood how I was feeling
or related to it.

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And so I think by writing songs
about exactly how I felt,

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I was creating, like, a friend for me.

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"jealousy, jealousy" was
the second song I wrote for the album.

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And I remember writing it in a time

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where I was just so obsessed
with social media in a very negative way,

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and I hated the way it made me feel.

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And I always felt misrepresented.

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It's hard because it's, like--

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Definitely will make you think about
how you wanna be perceived all the time.

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You want people to look at you
for your talent and skill,

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and you're also, you know, 18.

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I want people to think I'm, like, pretty
and cool… [chuckles]

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…and funny or whatever.

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If you find yourself thinking
about that too much,

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I think you get so disillusioned
from real life

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and nothing good can come of that.

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["jealousy, jealousy" playing]

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♪ I kinda wanna throw my phone
Across the room ♪

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♪ 'Cause all I see are girls
Too good to be true ♪

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♪ With paper-white teeth
And perfect bodies ♪

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♪ Wish I didn't care ♪

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♪ I know their beauty's not my lack ♪

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♪ But it feels like that weight
Is on my back ♪

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♪ And I can't let it go ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ My jealousy, jealousy
Started following me ♪

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♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

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-♪ Started following me ♪
-♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ And I see everyone
Getting all the things I want ♪

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♪ And I'm happy for them
But then again I'm not ♪

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♪ Just cool vintage clothes
And vacation photos ♪

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♪ I can't stand it
God, I sound crazy ♪

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♪ Their win is not my loss ♪

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♪ Yeah, I know it's true
But I can't help getting caught ♪

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♪ Up in it all, yeah ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ And I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ My jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ All your friends are so cool ♪

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♪ You go out every night
In your daddy's nice car ♪

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♪ Yeah, you're living the life ♪

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♪ Got a pretty face
A pretty boyfriend too ♪

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♪ I wanna be you so bad
And I don't even know you ♪

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♪ All I see is what I should be ♪

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♪ Happier, prettier, jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ All I see is what I should be ♪

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♪ I'm losing it
All I get's jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ Co-comparison
Is killing me slowly ♪

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♪ I think I think too much ♪

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♪ 'Bout kids who don't know me ♪

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♪ And I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ Rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ Jealousy, jealousy ♪

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♪ Oh, I'm so sick of myself ♪

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♪ I'd rather be, rather be
Anyone, anyone else ♪

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♪ Jealousy, jealousy
Started following me ♪

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[song ends]

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["1 step forward, 3 steps back" playing]

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♪ I called you on the phone today ♪

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♪ Just to ask you how you were ♪

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♪ All I did was speak normally ♪

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♪ Somehow I still struck a nerve ♪

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♪ You got me **** up in the head, boy ♪

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♪ Never doubted myself so much ♪

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♪ Am I pretty, am I fun, boy? ♪

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♪ I hate that I give you power
Over that stuff ♪

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♪ 'Cause it's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ Yeah, it's one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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I'm hitting all the wrong keys.

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[on phone] ♪ I'm an angel and the devil
But you're always a good man ♪

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♪ Yeah, you're always the good man ♪

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Those old lyrics. [laughs]

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I-- I just wrote this song actually
the day before this guy broke up with me.

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[laughs] So I remember, like--

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I remember not being able to listen
to it for a while. [laughs]

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[Rodrigo] "1 step forward, 3 steps back"
I wrote it in the car

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on my way to Salt Lake City
with my mom. [chuckles]

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I think loving someone
who is so inconsistent is so challenging

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and just really anxiety-inducing
and makes you feel so insecure.

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And it's a really tough thing to feel like
you're walking on eggshells around someone

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who you just want, you know,
validation and love and support from.

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You feel like you can never really settle
into that feeling

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of being, like, loved and accepted.

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[guitar plays]

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♪ 'Cause it's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

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♪ No, I don't understand ♪

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♪ And maybe in some masochistic way ♪

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♪ I kind of find it all exciting ♪

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♪ Like, which lover will I get today? ♪

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♪ Will you walk me to the door
Or send me home crying? ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ I'm the love of your life
Until I make you mad ♪

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♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

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♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

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00:17:02.564 --> 00:17:08.778
♪ No, it's back and forth
Did I say something wrong? ♪

237
00:17:08.862 --> 00:17:14.617
♪ It's back and forth
Going over everything I said ♪

238
00:17:14.701 --> 00:17:19.914
♪ It's back and forth
Did I do something wrong? ♪

239
00:17:19.998 --> 00:17:25.962
♪ It's back and forth
Maybe this is all your fault instead ♪

240
00:17:26.046 --> 00:17:30.967
♪ It's one step forward
And three steps back ♪

241
00:17:31.760 --> 00:17:33.345
♪ And I'd leave you ♪

242
00:17:33.428 --> 00:17:37.807
♪ But the roller coaster's
All I've ever had ♪

243
00:17:37.891 --> 00:17:44.356
♪ It's always one step forward
And three steps back ♪

244
00:17:44.439 --> 00:17:50.111
♪ Do you love me, want me, hate me
Boy, I don't understand ♪

245
00:17:50.195 --> 00:17:53.114
♪ No, I don't understand ♪

246
00:17:53.198 --> 00:17:54.282
[song ends]

247
00:18:01.831 --> 00:18:04.501
July 13th, 2020.

248
00:18:05.543 --> 00:18:09.422
"I got my driver's license today.
A very highly anticipated achievement.

249
00:18:09.506 --> 00:18:11.966
All my relatives called
to congratulate me.

250
00:18:12.050 --> 00:18:15.220
I realized part of the reason
I wanted to get my license so bad

251
00:18:15.303 --> 00:18:17.931
was because of this boy.

252
00:18:18.014 --> 00:18:20.809
I always felt bad about being too young
to drive over to see him,

253
00:18:20.892 --> 00:18:22.644
too young to have any real freedom.

254
00:18:22.727 --> 00:18:25.063
I thought he should be
with a girl who had those liberties.

255
00:18:25.146 --> 00:18:28.692
I feel his hold on me loosen more
and more lately. That's a lovely feeling.

256
00:18:29.609 --> 00:18:32.195
I'm still very much not able to fall
for anyone else though.

257
00:18:32.278 --> 00:18:34.280
I can't even fathom it at the moment."

258
00:18:37.867 --> 00:18:40.870
I remember knowing
that it might be something special,

259
00:18:40.954 --> 00:18:42.622
if not to anyone else, just to me,

260
00:18:42.706 --> 00:18:47.669
'cause I felt like that song
just really captured devastation

261
00:18:47.752 --> 00:18:50.088
in a way
that I hadn't been able to capture before.

262
00:18:51.589 --> 00:18:52.882
Second verse, it's the--

263
00:18:52.966 --> 00:18:57.512
♪ Today I drove through the suburbs
And pictured I was driving home to you ♪

264
00:18:58.013 --> 00:19:00.807
And that line can very literally be, like,

265
00:19:00.890 --> 00:19:03.309
I was driving home, like,
to your house or whatever.

266
00:19:03.393 --> 00:19:06.563
But I remember at that time I was really,
like, reconciling with the fact

267
00:19:06.646 --> 00:19:08.732
that sometimes,
when you love a person so much

268
00:19:08.815 --> 00:19:11.151
and you spend so much time with them,

269
00:19:11.234 --> 00:19:13.570
like, that's who you feel the most
at home with.

270
00:19:13.653 --> 00:19:17.073
And I remember listening to that song,
even when I hadn't put it out,

271
00:19:17.157 --> 00:19:20.618
when I just had the demo on my phone,
and I'd drive around and listen to it.

272
00:19:20.702 --> 00:19:22.579
Every time it came on,
my stomach would drop

273
00:19:22.662 --> 00:19:24.164
just 'cause I felt like it was so…

274
00:19:25.665 --> 00:19:29.044
like, so acutely, like, how I was feeling.

275
00:19:32.714 --> 00:19:38.386
I think the worst part of being in love
is having something to lose.

276
00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:39.721
Oh, that's a great answer.

277
00:19:39.804 --> 00:19:42.474
-I-- I feel that way all the time.
-That's a great answer.

278
00:19:42.557 --> 00:19:45.977
Even just in all aspects of my life,
like, even with my career, I'm like,

279
00:19:46.061 --> 00:19:48.521
"Oh, my God, I'm so grateful
for all of these things happening."

280
00:19:48.605 --> 00:19:50.774
But, like, when you have something
that's so amazing,

281
00:19:50.857 --> 00:19:52.984
like, it just feels kind of scary
'cause it's like,

282
00:19:53.068 --> 00:19:54.778
"What happens if-- if that goes away?"

283
00:19:54.861 --> 00:19:57.238
[Collier] How do you take something
that happens in your life--

284
00:19:57.322 --> 00:19:59.532
It could be really good or really intense.

285
00:19:59.616 --> 00:20:02.160
And how do you transform that
into something like a song?

286
00:20:02.243 --> 00:20:06.456
I don't know. For me and, like,
my style of songwriting and music is

287
00:20:06.539 --> 00:20:10.210
sometimes it gets a little overwhelming.

288
00:20:10.293 --> 00:20:13.046
I think that sometimes storytelling
doesn't necessarily have to come

289
00:20:13.129 --> 00:20:14.964
-from a place of devastation.
-Yes.

290
00:20:15.048 --> 00:20:17.300
Which is what I'm trying to tell myself
for the rest of my career.

291
00:20:17.384 --> 00:20:19.928
I'm terrified that since I'm not gonna be
devastated for the rest of my life,

292
00:20:20.011 --> 00:20:22.180
-I'm no longer gonna make a good album.
-What's your inspiration?

293
00:20:22.263 --> 00:20:23.515
-Yeah, exactly.
-Yeah, yeah.

294
00:20:23.598 --> 00:20:28.311
[Collier] I don't know if I've ever heard
a song that really encapsulates that more

295
00:20:28.395 --> 00:20:29.646
than "drivers license."

296
00:20:29.729 --> 00:20:31.898
And it just feels like
you're living that out.

297
00:20:31.981 --> 00:20:33.483
[Rodrigo] Mmm. Thank you.

298
00:20:33.566 --> 00:20:35.402
[Collier] In a good and painful way.

299
00:20:36.027 --> 00:20:36.945
[keyboard playing]

300
00:20:37.028 --> 00:20:43.410
♪ I got my driver's license last week
Something we always talked about ♪

301
00:20:43.493 --> 00:20:49.916
♪ 'Cause you were so excited for me
To finally drive up to your house ♪

302
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:56.965
♪ But today I drove through the suburbs
Crying 'cause you weren't around ♪

303
00:20:57.048 --> 00:21:00.719
["drivers license" continues playing]

304
00:21:00.802 --> 00:21:03.930
[Rodrigo] I think I'm still as innocent
as I was when "drivers license" came out.

305
00:21:04.014 --> 00:21:06.474
♪ Probably with that brunette girl ♪

306
00:21:06.558 --> 00:21:08.393
♪ The one I always thought about ♪

307
00:21:08.476 --> 00:21:11.229
I don't know. Maybe I--
Maybe I am, like, a little hardened now.

308
00:21:11.312 --> 00:21:15.859
♪ She's so much older than me
She's everything I'm insecure about ♪

309
00:21:15.942 --> 00:21:19.612
I don't know. I think, like, to my core
I'm still the same person.

310
00:21:19.696 --> 00:21:25.035
I'm still sensitive and emotional
and caring, hopefully.

311
00:21:25.785 --> 00:21:28.872
So much has happened,
making life completely different now.

312
00:21:28.955 --> 00:21:30.415
It's, like, weird to think about.

313
00:21:30.498 --> 00:21:34.002
♪ But I've never felt this way
For no one ♪

314
00:21:38.673 --> 00:21:40.258
But I think I'll always write songs.

315
00:21:40.342 --> 00:21:43.053
I think it's, like, my form of expression

316
00:21:43.136 --> 00:21:47.766
and my way of, you know,
making sense of the world.

317
00:21:52.812 --> 00:21:56.107
♪ Just tell me that you really meant ♪

318
00:21:56.191 --> 00:22:01.654
♪ The words you wrote about me
In that song ♪

319
00:22:09.537 --> 00:22:10.538
[song ends]

320
00:22:11.122 --> 00:22:13.208
-["drivers license" playing]
-[Rodrigo] Okay. Here it is.

321
00:22:13.792 --> 00:22:19.923
♪ And all my friends are tired
Of hearing how much I miss you ♪

322
00:22:20.006 --> 00:22:22.884
♪ I kinda feel sorry for them ♪

323
00:22:22.967 --> 00:22:26.054
♪ 'Cause they'll never know you
The way that I do ♪

324
00:22:26.137 --> 00:22:29.724
♪ Yeah
Today I drove through the suburbs ♪

325
00:22:29.808 --> 00:22:34.813
♪ And pictured I was driving home to you ♪

326
00:22:36.481 --> 00:22:42.779
♪ And I know we weren't perfect
But I've never felt this way ♪

327
00:22:42.862 --> 00:22:44.531
♪ For no one ♪

328
00:22:46.074 --> 00:22:52.414
♪ And I just can't imagine
How you could be so okay ♪

329
00:22:52.497 --> 00:22:55.500
♪ Now that I'm gone ♪

330
00:22:56.292 --> 00:23:02.424
♪ I guess you didn't mean
What you wrote in that song about me ♪

331
00:23:03.133 --> 00:23:08.096
♪ 'Cause you said forever
Now I drive alone past your street ♪

332
00:23:09.514 --> 00:23:13.101
♪ Red lights
Stop signs ♪

333
00:23:13.184 --> 00:23:15.687
♪ I still see your face ♪

334
00:23:15.770 --> 00:23:18.106
♪ In the white cars ♪

335
00:23:18.189 --> 00:23:19.816
♪ Front yards ♪

336
00:23:19.899 --> 00:23:22.777
♪ Can't drive past the places ♪

337
00:23:22.861 --> 00:23:26.322
♪ We used to
Go to ♪

338
00:23:26.406 --> 00:23:30.869
♪ 'Cause I still **** love you, babe ♪

339
00:23:30.952 --> 00:23:36.332
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪

340
00:23:36.416 --> 00:23:39.377
♪ Sidewalks
We crossed ♪

341
00:23:39.461 --> 00:23:42.422
♪ I still hear your voice ♪

342
00:23:42.505 --> 00:23:46.509
♪ In the traffic
We're laughing ♪

343
00:23:46.593 --> 00:23:49.095
♪ Over all the noise ♪

344
00:23:49.179 --> 00:23:53.141
♪ God, I'm so blue
Know we're through ♪

345
00:23:53.224 --> 00:23:57.729
♪ But I still **** love you, babe ♪

346
00:23:57.812 --> 00:24:02.776
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪

347
00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:06.321
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ And I know we weren't perfect ♪

348
00:24:06.404 --> 00:24:09.574
♪ But I've never felt this way ♪

349
00:24:09.657 --> 00:24:11.242
♪ For no one ♪

350
00:24:11.326 --> 00:24:13.370
-[crowd cheers]
-[Rodrigo] Sing it!

351
00:24:13.453 --> 00:24:19.584
[crowd] ♪ And I just can't imagine
How you could be so okay ♪

352
00:24:19.668 --> 00:24:22.170
♪ Now that I'm gone ♪

353
00:24:22.879 --> 00:24:24.964
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ I guess you didn't mean ♪

354
00:24:25.048 --> 00:24:29.386
♪ What you wrote in that song about me ♪

355
00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:36.559
♪ 'Cause you said forever
Now I drive alone past your street ♪

356
00:24:36.643 --> 00:24:38.311
[crowd cheers]

357
00:24:38.395 --> 00:24:40.397
[Rodrigo, crowd]
♪ Yeah, you said forever ♪

358
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:45.902
♪ Now I drive alone past your street ♪

359
00:24:45.985 --> 00:24:47.737
-[song ends]
-[crowd cheers]

360
00:24:51.282 --> 00:24:52.992
-[tape clicks]
-[cheering fades]

361
00:24:55.453 --> 00:24:58.498
[Rodrigo] The success of "drivers license"
changed everything.

362
00:24:59.416 --> 00:25:03.211
I went from performing it alone
in my bedroom or in the studio with Dan

363
00:25:03.294 --> 00:25:07.382
to performing it live in these super high-
stakes environments for the first time.

364
00:25:08.216 --> 00:25:09.426
It was very intense.

365
00:25:18.977 --> 00:25:21.438
Having a big song like that,
you put it out and you're also like,

366
00:25:21.521 --> 00:25:22.647
"Oh, my God, this is amazing."

367
00:25:22.731 --> 00:25:26.109
And then everyone's like, "What's next?
Can you follow it up? What's coming next?"

368
00:25:26.192 --> 00:25:29.320
And you're like,
"Jesus, like… [chuckles] …I just did this.

369
00:25:29.404 --> 00:25:31.489
Like, can-- can't this be enough?"

370
00:25:32.157 --> 00:25:35.368
Did we talk about making an album?
Did I run that by you?

371
00:25:35.452 --> 00:25:36.870
-No. No, you didn't.
-No?

372
00:25:36.953 --> 00:25:39.039
You didn't talk to me about it.
You just, like, literally--

373
00:25:39.122 --> 00:25:41.332
I just was like, "I'm making an album.
You wanna do it, Dan?"

374
00:25:41.416 --> 00:25:43.585
It was just like, "Hey, we're going.
We're making an album."

375
00:25:43.668 --> 00:25:48.048
I remember you called me stressed out
in Salt Lake City one day.

376
00:25:48.131 --> 00:25:50.258
And you were just like,
"You gotta come here now."

377
00:25:50.342 --> 00:25:53.303
And I was like, "Oh, okay.
All right. Let's go. Let's do it."

378
00:25:53.386 --> 00:25:56.890
I probably made the call to my label
that I wanted to make an album

379
00:25:56.973 --> 00:25:58.683
like a week
after "drivers license" came out.

380
00:25:58.767 --> 00:26:02.771
I was like, "Oh, shoot. Like,
there are gonna be so many more people

381
00:26:02.854 --> 00:26:05.815
that are listening to this music
than I initially thought.

382
00:26:05.899 --> 00:26:07.650
And I really wanna put
my best foot forward."

383
00:26:07.734 --> 00:26:09.944
Made the call, and they were all,
"I don't know about that."

384
00:26:10.028 --> 00:26:12.947
But I was, like,
so dead set and determined.

385
00:26:13.031 --> 00:26:19.746
♪ So, when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

386
00:26:19.829 --> 00:26:23.583
♪ She thinks it's special ♪

387
00:26:24.084 --> 00:26:26.086
♪ But it's all reused ♪

388
00:26:26.169 --> 00:26:29.255
♪ That was our place
I found it first ♪

389
00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:32.384
♪ I made the jokes
You tell to her ♪

390
00:26:32.467 --> 00:26:38.306
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

391
00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:44.104
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

392
00:26:44.187 --> 00:26:47.190
In this album,
and in "deja vu" in particular,

393
00:26:47.273 --> 00:26:50.402
I'm, like, very obsessed
and, like, weirded out

394
00:26:50.485 --> 00:26:53.571
with the idea of all relationships
just being so recycled.

395
00:26:53.655 --> 00:26:56.991
'Cause I think I was just learning about
relationships and love for the first time.

396
00:26:57.075 --> 00:26:59.202
And I was, "Wait, none of it is special.

397
00:26:59.285 --> 00:27:00.954
Like, it happens over and over and over."

398
00:27:02.622 --> 00:27:04.874
When Dan and I wrote "deja vu" together,

399
00:27:04.958 --> 00:27:09.546
we really wanted to write a song
that was really vivid and specific.

400
00:27:09.629 --> 00:27:11.506
And I think
"deja vu" really accomplishes that.

401
00:27:11.589 --> 00:27:14.384
Especially in the verses.
Really paints a picture.

402
00:27:14.467 --> 00:27:17.512
And I think specificity
and also authenticity

403
00:27:17.595 --> 00:27:20.098
are my two favorite things
that a song can have.

404
00:27:20.181 --> 00:27:22.392
And I learned that
from country music, I think.

405
00:27:22.475 --> 00:27:25.020
I think country music songs are always
very specific and authentic,

406
00:27:25.103 --> 00:27:27.689
and I think that's why they're
so heartbreaking sometimes.

407
00:27:27.772 --> 00:27:29.983
If I write a song
and it doesn't have those things,

408
00:27:30.066 --> 00:27:31.860
I generally don't really love it.

409
00:27:38.491 --> 00:27:41.619
I, to be completely honest,

410
00:27:41.703 --> 00:27:43.913
did not wanna put this song out
after "drivers license."

411
00:27:43.997 --> 00:27:46.332
I remember thinking it was a bad song,

412
00:27:46.416 --> 00:27:49.044
and I didn't like it,
and no one's going to like it.

413
00:27:49.544 --> 00:27:53.965
And I remember, like, calling my manager
like three, four days

414
00:27:54.049 --> 00:27:57.010
before we announced "deja vu"
was coming out and being like,

415
00:27:57.093 --> 00:27:59.929
"Pull the plug. I don't want to do it.
I can't do it. I hate it."

416
00:28:00.013 --> 00:28:01.306
I like the song now,

417
00:28:01.389 --> 00:28:04.642
but "drivers license" was obviously
so well received.

418
00:28:04.726 --> 00:28:08.438
The thought of coming out
with another song, that was fairly scary.

419
00:28:08.521 --> 00:28:11.191
"deja vu" was a completely different song
than "drivers license" too,

420
00:28:11.274 --> 00:28:12.525
in every single way.

421
00:28:13.068 --> 00:28:17.697
There was so much drama that was
around "drivers license" and so much hate.

422
00:28:17.781 --> 00:28:19.741
I, like, thought if I put this song out,

423
00:28:19.824 --> 00:28:25.080
then I was also, like, playing into this,
like, drama, love triangle,

424
00:28:25.163 --> 00:28:28.333
like, "let's hate on other girls" thing,
and I just did not wanna do that.

425
00:28:28.416 --> 00:28:31.878
And that was-- I never write any
of my songs from that point of view

426
00:28:31.961 --> 00:28:33.588
'cause that's not something that I feel.

427
00:28:33.672 --> 00:28:36.299
I feel like I've given so many notes.
It's just the same notes.

428
00:28:36.383 --> 00:28:38.718
Just in my head about it.
I'm just always gonna find things.

429
00:28:38.802 --> 00:28:40.595
I need to pull the trigger and do it.

430
00:28:40.679 --> 00:28:43.390
[Morris on phone] If it makes you
feel any better, I am the same way.

431
00:28:43.473 --> 00:28:45.308
-Yeah.
-Every time I listen to "drivers license,"

432
00:28:45.392 --> 00:28:48.561
-I'm like, "No, I should have done this!"
-[Rodrigo chuckles]

433
00:28:48.645 --> 00:28:51.356
Blah, blah, blah. But it's
the biggest **** song in the world.

434
00:28:51.439 --> 00:28:52.482
-Yeah.
-Everybody loves it,

435
00:28:52.565 --> 00:28:54.192
and nobody hears anything wrong with it.

436
00:28:54.275 --> 00:28:55.443
-Yeah.
-So…

437
00:28:55.527 --> 00:28:56.569
Yes.

438
00:29:02.992 --> 00:29:04.994
["deja vu" playing]

439
00:29:13.461 --> 00:29:17.590
♪ Car rides to Malibu ♪

440
00:29:17.674 --> 00:29:21.177
♪ Strawberry ice cream ♪

441
00:29:21.261 --> 00:29:23.138
♪ One spoon for two ♪

442
00:29:23.221 --> 00:29:26.725
♪ And trading jackets ♪

443
00:29:26.808 --> 00:29:30.437
♪ Laughing 'bout
How small it looks on you ♪

444
00:29:30.520 --> 00:29:34.691
[backing singers] ♪ Ha-ha-ha-ha
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha ♪

445
00:29:34.774 --> 00:29:39.029
♪ Watching reruns of Glee ♪

446
00:29:39.112 --> 00:29:41.990
♪ Being annoying ♪

447
00:29:42.073 --> 00:29:44.242
♪ Singing in harmony ♪

448
00:29:44.325 --> 00:29:47.829
♪ I bet she's bragging ♪

449
00:29:47.912 --> 00:29:51.166
♪ To all her friends
Saying you're so unique ♪

450
00:29:54.336 --> 00:30:00.091
♪ So when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

451
00:30:00.175 --> 00:30:05.597
♪ She thinks it's special
But it's all reused ♪

452
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.266
♪ That was our place
I found it first ♪

453
00:30:08.350 --> 00:30:10.810
♪ I made the jokes
You tell to her ♪

454
00:30:10.894 --> 00:30:16.232
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

455
00:30:16.316 --> 00:30:21.780
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

456
00:30:21.863 --> 00:30:22.947
♪ Oh ♪

457
00:30:24.949 --> 00:30:28.078
♪ Do you get déjà vu?
Oh ♪

458
00:30:37.545 --> 00:30:42.592
♪ Do you call her
And almost say my name ♪

459
00:30:42.676 --> 00:30:47.847
♪ 'Cause let's be honest
We kinda do sound the same ♪

460
00:30:47.931 --> 00:30:51.184
♪ Another actress ♪

461
00:30:51.267 --> 00:30:54.854
♪ Well, I hate to think
That I was just your type ♪

462
00:30:58.149 --> 00:31:04.364
♪ And I'll bet that she knows Billy Joel
'Cause you played her "Uptown Girl" ♪

463
00:31:04.447 --> 00:31:07.033
♪ You're singing it together now ♪

464
00:31:07.117 --> 00:31:12.622
♪ I bet you even tell her how
You love her ♪

465
00:31:12.706 --> 00:31:16.126
♪ In between the chorus and the verse ♪

466
00:31:19.004 --> 00:31:24.676
♪ So when you gonna tell her
That we did that too? ♪

467
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:30.140
♪ She thinks it's special
But it's all reused ♪

468
00:31:30.223 --> 00:31:32.559
♪ That was the show
We talked about ♪

469
00:31:32.642 --> 00:31:35.437
♪ Played you the song
She's singing now ♪

470
00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:40.817
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

471
00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:46.322
♪ When she's with you
Do you get déjà vu? ♪

472
00:31:46.406 --> 00:31:47.490
♪ Oh ♪

473
00:31:49.576 --> 00:31:51.619
♪ Do you get déjà vu? ♪

474
00:31:51.703 --> 00:31:54.914
[on radio]
♪ Strawberry ice cream in Malibu ♪

475
00:31:54.998 --> 00:31:57.667
♪ Don't act like
We didn't do that shit too ♪

476
00:31:57.751 --> 00:32:00.211
♪ You're trading jackets
Like we used to do ♪

477
00:32:00.295 --> 00:32:02.922
♪ Yeah, everything is all reused ♪

478
00:32:03.006 --> 00:32:05.467
♪ Play her piano, but she doesn't know ♪

479
00:32:05.550 --> 00:32:08.136
♪ That I was the one
Who taught you Billy Joel ♪

480
00:32:08.219 --> 00:32:10.764
♪ It's a different girl now
But there's nothing new ♪

481
00:32:10.847 --> 00:32:13.516
♪ I know you get déjà vu ♪

482
00:32:21.649 --> 00:32:24.361
♪ I know you get déjà vu ♪

483
00:32:24.444 --> 00:32:25.904
-[car turns off]
-[song ends]

484
00:32:34.120 --> 00:32:39.793
I was thinking a lot about this idea of,
in order to get over a heartbreak,

485
00:32:39.876 --> 00:32:42.462
I think you have to forgive
that person who caused you pain,

486
00:32:42.545 --> 00:32:45.674
but I think also a big part of it
is forgiving yourself.

487
00:32:48.385 --> 00:32:53.515
I found this little poem
that I wrote in my Notes app on my phone.

488
00:32:53.598 --> 00:32:56.643
"I know that I loved you so bad,
I let you treat me like that."

489
00:32:57.894 --> 00:32:59.813
I really liked that.
I thought it grabbed you.

490
00:32:59.896 --> 00:33:01.898
So we made it the first line of the song.

491
00:33:02.482 --> 00:33:03.817
[Nigro] I think you need to try that.

492
00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:04.901
♪ Oh, look-- ♪

493
00:33:04.984 --> 00:33:06.194
♪ Look what we be-- ♪

494
00:33:06.277 --> 00:33:08.196
♪ Look what we be--
Oh, look what we be-- ♪

495
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.115
Okay. Let's do it. Okay.

496
00:33:10.198 --> 00:33:11.533
[Nigro] A little more angsty!

497
00:33:11.616 --> 00:33:13.410
-I can do that.
-Get mad!

498
00:33:13.493 --> 00:33:15.245
You're angry right now.

499
00:33:15.328 --> 00:33:17.622
-There is a crime that has been committed…
-[Rodrigo chuckles]

500
00:33:17.706 --> 00:33:19.249
…and you're happy and you're sad about it.

501
00:33:19.332 --> 00:33:20.750
There's so many confusing feelings.

502
00:33:24.546 --> 00:33:28.550
I really like the lyric
"One heart broke, four hands bloody."

503
00:33:28.633 --> 00:33:30.885
Having the blame be on two people.

504
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.265
You know, heartbreak is a two-way street.
You couldn't have gotten your heart broken

505
00:33:35.348 --> 00:33:37.976
if you didn't put yourself
in the position to be hurt.

506
00:33:41.396 --> 00:33:46.234
I think writing this song
sort of helped me forgive myself.

507
00:33:50.030 --> 00:33:53.533
[a cappella]
♪ Know that I loved you so bad ♪

508
00:33:56.703 --> 00:34:00.915
♪ I let you treat me like that ♪

509
00:34:02.667 --> 00:34:06.963
♪ I was your willing accomplice, honey ♪

510
00:34:08.715 --> 00:34:12.802
♪ I watched as you fled the scene ♪

511
00:34:14.471 --> 00:34:18.767
♪ Doe-eyed as you buried me ♪

512
00:34:20.143 --> 00:34:25.440
♪ One heart broke, four hands bloody ♪

513
00:34:28.568 --> 00:34:31.613
-♪ Oh, the things I did ♪
-[electric guitar plays]

514
00:34:32.781 --> 00:34:38.119
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

515
00:34:40.372 --> 00:34:43.750
♪ The things you did ♪

516
00:34:43.833 --> 00:34:50.799
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

517
00:34:52.759 --> 00:34:55.470
♪ Used me as an alibi ♪

518
00:34:55.553 --> 00:34:58.473
♪ I crossed my heart
As you crossed the line ♪

519
00:34:58.556 --> 00:35:02.727
♪ And I defended you to all my friends ♪

520
00:35:03.853 --> 00:35:07.107
♪ And now every time a siren sounds ♪

521
00:35:07.190 --> 00:35:09.567
♪ I wonder if you're around ♪

522
00:35:09.651 --> 00:35:13.363
♪ 'Cause you know
That I'd do it all again ♪

523
00:35:14.322 --> 00:35:17.367
♪ Oh, the things I did ♪

524
00:35:18.535 --> 00:35:22.997
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

525
00:35:26.126 --> 00:35:29.462
♪ The things you did ♪

526
00:35:29.546 --> 00:35:36.511
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

527
00:35:37.887 --> 00:35:41.224
♪ And it's bittersweet
To think about the damage that we'd do ♪

528
00:35:41.307 --> 00:35:44.060
♪ 'Cause I was going down
But I was doing it with you ♪

529
00:35:44.144 --> 00:35:46.980
♪ Yeah, everything we broke
And all the trouble that we made ♪

530
00:35:47.063 --> 00:35:53.945
♪ But I say that I hate you
With a smile on my face ♪

531
00:35:54.863 --> 00:36:00.076
♪ Oh, look what we became ♪

532
00:36:02.787 --> 00:36:05.915
♪ Oh, the things I did ♪

533
00:36:07.167 --> 00:36:11.963
♪ Just so I could call you mine ♪

534
00:36:12.047 --> 00:36:13.548
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

535
00:36:14.299 --> 00:36:17.969
♪ Oh, the things you did ♪

536
00:36:18.053 --> 00:36:25.018
♪ Well, I hope I was your favorite crime ♪

537
00:36:26.144 --> 00:36:31.107
♪ Your favorite crime ♪

538
00:36:31.775 --> 00:36:36.654
♪ Your favorite crime ♪

539
00:36:37.322 --> 00:36:39.115
♪ 'Cause baby you were mine ♪

540
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.201
[guitar fades]

541
00:36:44.954 --> 00:36:46.247
[car approaching]

542
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.778
[Rodrigo] "good 4 u" is another song
that I wrote sort of on a whim.

543
00:37:16.861 --> 00:37:19.614
I love how this song expresses
anger and pettiness

544
00:37:19.698 --> 00:37:22.826
in a way that's more funny
and tongue-in-cheek

545
00:37:22.909 --> 00:37:25.036
rather than, like, aggressive and mean.

546
00:37:25.787 --> 00:37:28.289
I actually think it's more impactful
without the stuff on that.

547
00:37:28.373 --> 00:37:29.374
[Nigro] So take it out?

548
00:37:29.457 --> 00:37:31.292
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

549
00:37:31.376 --> 00:37:33.503
-I think it's better without.
-Can you do that again?

550
00:37:33.586 --> 00:37:34.754
♪ Way you know that I do ♪

551
00:37:34.838 --> 00:37:36.006
-[Nigro chuckles]
-That one.

552
00:37:36.089 --> 00:37:38.049
-[Rodrigo] Did that help?
-[Nigro] Yes, it helped.

553
00:37:38.133 --> 00:37:41.302
[Rodrigo] Um, I think it's more impactful
without that stuff on there.

554
00:37:42.095 --> 00:37:44.973
[on speaker] ♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

555
00:37:45.056 --> 00:37:47.517
[Nigro] Even the lower one in there?
The little demon that I have going.

556
00:37:47.600 --> 00:37:49.728
-I don't like it. Take the demon out.
-You don't like the demon?

557
00:37:49.811 --> 00:37:51.312
[distorted]
♪ Well, screw that and screw you ♪

558
00:37:51.396 --> 00:37:54.149
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

559
00:37:54.232 --> 00:37:56.401
-[chuckles] Need to have it.
-I love that. That's the song.

560
00:37:56.484 --> 00:37:58.653
-We have Satan in the song, you know?
-Just take it out.

561
00:37:58.737 --> 00:38:00.363
At least let me hear it.

562
00:38:13.293 --> 00:38:15.170
["good 4 u" playing]

563
00:38:19.799 --> 00:38:22.510
[Rodrigo] ♪ Well, good for you
I guess you moved on really easily ♪

564
00:38:22.594 --> 00:38:25.847
♪ You found a new girl
And it only took a couple weeks ♪

565
00:38:25.930 --> 00:38:30.727
♪ Remember when you said
That you wanted to give me the world ♪

566
00:38:31.770 --> 00:38:34.898
♪ And good for you, I guess
That you've been working on yourself ♪

567
00:38:34.981 --> 00:38:37.859
♪ I guess that therapist
I found for you, she really helped ♪

568
00:38:37.942 --> 00:38:43.114
♪ Now you can be a better man
For your brand-new girl ♪

569
00:38:44.407 --> 00:38:48.119
♪ Good for you
You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

570
00:38:48.203 --> 00:38:50.288
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

571
00:38:50.372 --> 00:38:51.373
♪ Good for you ♪

572
00:38:51.456 --> 00:38:54.250
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me, baby ♪

573
00:38:54.334 --> 00:38:56.211
♪ God, I wish that I could do that ♪

574
00:38:56.294 --> 00:38:59.172
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

575
00:38:59.255 --> 00:39:02.300
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

576
00:39:02.384 --> 00:39:05.512
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

577
00:39:05.595 --> 00:39:08.682
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

578
00:39:10.558 --> 00:39:12.102
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

579
00:39:13.853 --> 00:39:14.979
♪ And good for you ♪

580
00:39:15.063 --> 00:39:16.940
♪ I guess you're getting
Everything you want ♪

581
00:39:17.023 --> 00:39:20.235
♪ You bought a new car
And your career's really taking off ♪

582
00:39:20.318 --> 00:39:22.195
♪ It's like we never even happened, baby ♪

583
00:39:22.278 --> 00:39:25.532
♪ What the **** is up with that? ♪

584
00:39:26.116 --> 00:39:29.369
♪ And good for you
It's like you never even met me ♪

585
00:39:29.452 --> 00:39:31.830
♪ Remember when you swore to God
I was the only ♪

586
00:39:31.913 --> 00:39:33.248
♪ Person who ever got you? ♪

587
00:39:33.331 --> 00:39:35.083
♪ Well, screw that and screw you ♪

588
00:39:35.166 --> 00:39:38.336
♪ You will never have to hurt
The way you know that I do ♪

589
00:39:38.420 --> 00:39:42.507
♪ Well, good for you
You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

590
00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:44.884
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

591
00:39:44.968 --> 00:39:45.969
♪ Good for you ♪

592
00:39:46.052 --> 00:39:48.680
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me, baby ♪

593
00:39:48.763 --> 00:39:50.390
♪ God, I wish that I could do that ♪

594
00:39:50.473 --> 00:39:53.685
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

595
00:39:53.768 --> 00:39:56.813
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

596
00:39:56.896 --> 00:39:59.983
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

597
00:40:00.066 --> 00:40:03.611
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

598
00:40:20.628 --> 00:40:23.506
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

599
00:40:23.590 --> 00:40:26.718
♪ Your apathy's like a wound in salt ♪

600
00:40:26.801 --> 00:40:29.512
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

601
00:40:29.596 --> 00:40:32.474
♪ Or maybe you never cared at all ♪

602
00:40:32.557 --> 00:40:35.518
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

603
00:40:35.602 --> 00:40:38.813
♪ Your apathy's like a wound in salt ♪

604
00:40:38.897 --> 00:40:41.649
♪ Maybe I'm too emotional ♪

605
00:40:41.733 --> 00:40:45.987
♪ Or maybe you never cared at all ♪

606
00:40:46.654 --> 00:40:48.156
♪ Well, good for you ♪

607
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:50.950
♪ You look happy and healthy, not me ♪

608
00:40:51.034 --> 00:40:53.203
♪ If you ever cared to ask ♪

609
00:40:53.286 --> 00:40:54.287
♪ Good for you ♪

610
00:40:54.371 --> 00:40:56.915
♪ You're doing great out there
Without me ♪

611
00:40:56.998 --> 00:40:58.875
♪ Like a damn sociopath ♪

612
00:40:58.958 --> 00:41:01.961
♪ I've lost my mind
I've spent the night ♪

613
00:41:02.045 --> 00:41:05.090
♪ Crying on the floor of my bathroom ♪

614
00:41:05.173 --> 00:41:08.301
♪ You're so unaffected
I really don't get it ♪

615
00:41:08.385 --> 00:41:11.596
♪ But I guess good for you ♪

616
00:41:16.810 --> 00:41:20.355
♪ Well, good for you
I guess you moved on really easily ♪

617
00:41:20.438 --> 00:41:21.439
[song ends]

618
00:41:31.741 --> 00:41:34.494
[Rodrigo] I was thinking
about how I wrote "enough for you,"

619
00:41:34.994 --> 00:41:39.666
and I actually wrote it
on my bedroom floor in Salt Lake City,

620
00:41:39.749 --> 00:41:41.459
looking into a full-length mirror.

621
00:41:41.543 --> 00:41:44.421
Like, I was on my guitar,
playing to myself in the mirror,

622
00:41:44.504 --> 00:41:48.675
which I think is really funny considering,
like, the themes of the song.

623
00:41:48.758 --> 00:41:50.510
I just think, at the time,

624
00:41:50.593 --> 00:41:54.514
I was just feeling
this soul-crushing inferiority.

625
00:41:56.182 --> 00:41:58.393
An inferiority that I think only occurs

626
00:41:58.476 --> 00:42:01.187
when you, like, are really deeply in love
with someone.

627
00:42:01.271 --> 00:42:04.024
And, you know, feeling like
you aren't good enough for someone

628
00:42:04.107 --> 00:42:08.486
who is your absolute world
is, like, so, so crushing.

629
00:42:09.362 --> 00:42:12.115
But I really like
how the song sort of starts

630
00:42:12.824 --> 00:42:14.409
in this really self-deprecating place,

631
00:42:14.492 --> 00:42:16.828
and sort of becomes a little more hopeful
at the end.

632
00:42:20.290 --> 00:42:25.545
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

633
00:42:25.628 --> 00:42:31.176
♪ But I don't think anything
Could ever be enough ♪

634
00:42:31.259 --> 00:42:35.513
♪ For you ♪

635
00:42:36.389 --> 00:42:38.099
♪ Enough for you ♪

636
00:42:38.183 --> 00:42:41.061
[vocalizes]

637
00:42:41.144 --> 00:42:43.688
♪ No, nothing's enough for you ♪

638
00:42:47.359 --> 00:42:48.902
-[whimpers]
-What's wrong?

639
00:42:48.985 --> 00:42:50.862
I'm so sad about it. I don't know.

640
00:42:51.404 --> 00:42:53.156
[clears throat]
You don't like this either?

641
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.617
-I don't know.
-What don't you like about it?

642
00:42:55.700 --> 00:42:58.745
'Cause it's just like every other song
I have on the record,

643
00:42:58.828 --> 00:43:00.121
just different words.

644
00:43:02.165 --> 00:43:04.584
Okay. You want it to be electric guitar?

645
00:43:05.669 --> 00:43:06.753
[Rodrigo chuckles]

646
00:43:08.463 --> 00:43:09.673
Is that gonna help?

647
00:43:10.382 --> 00:43:11.383
I don't know.

648
00:43:12.008 --> 00:43:13.009
Okay.

649
00:43:14.969 --> 00:43:18.098
That was, like, towards, like, the end
of the album making process.

650
00:43:18.181 --> 00:43:20.809
And I just remember listening
to that song and being like,

651
00:43:20.892 --> 00:43:22.477
"Everything's wrong with this song."

652
00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:24.729
And I love the song
and the lyrics and the melody,

653
00:43:24.813 --> 00:43:26.356
but I just remember like,

654
00:43:26.439 --> 00:43:28.650
"The guitar is not right.
It's out of tempo.

655
00:43:28.733 --> 00:43:31.194
I don't like it. I can't sing it well.
Like, dah, dah, dah."

656
00:43:31.277 --> 00:43:33.029
There's so many issues with it in my head.

657
00:43:33.113 --> 00:43:36.199
[Rodrigo] I don't know. I just wish some
of the bits were more emotional.

658
00:43:36.282 --> 00:43:38.993
I feel like if you're not
closely paying attention to the lyrics,

659
00:43:39.077 --> 00:43:42.080
you, like, wouldn't understand,
like, what was going on.

660
00:43:42.163 --> 00:43:45.375
[Nigro] I think you're overthinking that
like crazy.

661
00:43:45.458 --> 00:43:47.794
-[Morris] I agree. It's so emotional.
-[Nigro] Like crazy.

662
00:43:47.877 --> 00:43:48.878
[person] It really is.

663
00:43:48.962 --> 00:43:52.215
[Morris] It's so emotional. It literally,
like, breaks me every time I hear it.

664
00:43:52.298 --> 00:43:53.133
[Rodrigo chuckles]

665
00:43:59.764 --> 00:44:00.765
Being a child actor,

666
00:44:00.849 --> 00:44:03.351
where you're constantly told
everything you do is amazing,

667
00:44:03.435 --> 00:44:06.354
you did the bare minimum and they're like,
"Oh, you're a star."

668
00:44:08.064 --> 00:44:10.442
And I was always, like,
really disillusioned by that

669
00:44:10.525 --> 00:44:11.526
from a very young age.

670
00:44:11.609 --> 00:44:13.778
I was like,
"They're just gonna tell me whatever."

671
00:44:13.862 --> 00:44:17.032
And so, I kind of, like,
went to the other side of the spectrum,

672
00:44:17.115 --> 00:44:19.826
and started thinking
that everything that I did was really bad.

673
00:44:19.909 --> 00:44:22.245
And started being, like, my own critic
and being like,

674
00:44:22.328 --> 00:44:24.456
"No, you can always do better.
Always do better."

675
00:44:24.539 --> 00:44:27.042
Never accepted when anyone told me
that I did a good job.

676
00:44:27.959 --> 00:44:31.796
I remember really gravitating
towards my dad in that time

677
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.216
'cause he was the only person
who I felt, like, would tell me the truth,

678
00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:38.219
and that was really hard
for me to grapple with at a young age,

679
00:44:38.303 --> 00:44:39.763
feeling like you couldn't trust anyone

680
00:44:39.846 --> 00:44:42.349
and no one was gonna tell you
if you were messing up.

681
00:44:44.601 --> 00:44:46.603
I also think Dan is like that for me too.

682
00:44:46.686 --> 00:44:49.105
Dan's very much someone in my life

683
00:44:49.189 --> 00:44:52.067
who will be, like, unabashedly like,

684
00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.819
"No, you shouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that if I were you."

685
00:44:54.903 --> 00:44:56.404
Which I, like, really appreciate,

686
00:44:56.488 --> 00:44:59.657
'cause not a lot of people care enough
to be honest with people.

687
00:44:59.741 --> 00:45:00.742
You know what I mean?

688
00:45:00.825 --> 00:45:03.411
I think there's a certain level of care
and kindness

689
00:45:03.495 --> 00:45:06.623
that goes with having the courage
to, like, help someone like that.

690
00:45:06.706 --> 00:45:08.708
["enough for you" playing]

691
00:45:20.178 --> 00:45:26.059
♪ I wore makeup when we dated
'Cause I thought you'd like me more ♪

692
00:45:26.142 --> 00:45:32.440
♪ If I looked like the other prom queens
I know that you loved before ♪

693
00:45:32.524 --> 00:45:37.028
♪ Tried so hard to be
Everything that you liked ♪

694
00:45:37.696 --> 00:45:43.284
♪ Just for you to say
You're not the compliment type ♪

695
00:45:44.911 --> 00:45:50.959
♪ And I knew how you took your coffee
And your favorite songs by heart ♪

696
00:45:51.042 --> 00:45:56.506
♪ I read all of your self-help books
So you'd think that I was smart ♪

697
00:45:56.589 --> 00:46:01.344
♪ Stupid, emotional, obsessive little me ♪

698
00:46:02.804 --> 00:46:07.642
♪ I knew from the start
This is exactly how you'd leave ♪

699
00:46:08.143 --> 00:46:13.690
♪ You found someone more exciting
The next second you were gone ♪

700
00:46:14.691 --> 00:46:19.863
♪ And you left me there crying
Wondering what I did wrong ♪

701
00:46:19.946 --> 00:46:26.161
♪ And you always say I'm never satisfied
But I don't think that's true ♪

702
00:46:27.078 --> 00:46:32.083
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough for you ♪

703
00:46:33.168 --> 00:46:38.173
♪ Yeah, all I ever wanted
Was to be enough for you ♪

704
00:46:41.551 --> 00:46:47.640
♪ And maybe I'm just not as interesting
As the girls you had before ♪

705
00:46:47.724 --> 00:46:53.813
♪ But God, you couldn't have cared less
About someone who loved you more ♪

706
00:46:53.897 --> 00:46:58.109
♪ I'd say you broke my heart
But you broke much more than that ♪

707
00:46:58.985 --> 00:47:04.157
♪ Now I don't want your sympathy
I just want myself back ♪

708
00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:10.372
♪ Before you found someone more exciting
The next second you were gone ♪

709
00:47:11.498 --> 00:47:16.670
♪ And you left me there crying
Wondering what I did wrong ♪

710
00:47:16.753 --> 00:47:22.926
♪ And you always say I'm never satisfied
But I don't think that's true ♪

711
00:47:23.885 --> 00:47:29.140
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

712
00:47:29.224 --> 00:47:35.397
♪ And don't you think I loved you too much
To be used and discarded? ♪

713
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:42.112
♪ Don't you think I loved you too much
To think I deserve nothing? ♪

714
00:47:42.195 --> 00:47:47.534
♪ But don't tell me you're sorry, boy
Feel sorry for yourself ♪

715
00:47:48.326 --> 00:47:53.957
♪ 'Cause someday I'll be everything
To somebody else ♪

716
00:47:58.169 --> 00:48:01.589
♪ They'll think that I am so exciting ♪

717
00:48:05.176 --> 00:48:08.805
♪ Then you'll be the one who's crying ♪

718
00:48:09.931 --> 00:48:14.644
♪ Yeah
You always say I'm never satisfied ♪

719
00:48:14.728 --> 00:48:17.188
♪ But I don't think that's true ♪

720
00:48:17.897 --> 00:48:23.319
♪ You say I'm never satisfied
But that's not me, it's you ♪

721
00:48:24.154 --> 00:48:29.117
♪ 'Cause all I ever wanted
Was to be enough ♪

722
00:48:29.868 --> 00:48:35.999
♪ But I don't think anything
Could ever be enough ♪

723
00:48:36.082 --> 00:48:39.961
♪ For you ♪

724
00:48:41.755 --> 00:48:43.465
♪ Enough for you ♪

725
00:48:43.548 --> 00:48:46.426
[vocalizes]

726
00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:50.388
♪ No, nothing's enough for you ♪

727
00:48:50.472 --> 00:48:52.474
[song ends]

728
00:48:58.104 --> 00:49:00.732
[gentle piano playing]

729
00:49:09.657 --> 00:49:10.658
[Nigro] What's that?

730
00:49:10.742 --> 00:49:11.743
[Rodrigo] No clue.

731
00:49:13.787 --> 00:49:15.622
-[Rodrigo] You ready?
-[Nigro] I think so.

732
00:49:16.456 --> 00:49:19.626
♪ You betrayed me ♪

733
00:49:19.709 --> 00:49:23.963
♪ And I know
That you'll never feel sorry ♪

734
00:49:24.047 --> 00:49:26.591
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

735
00:49:26.675 --> 00:49:28.635
[both]
♪ You talked to her ♪

736
00:49:28.718 --> 00:49:30.512
[Nigro]
I think you're right. I don't like--

737
00:49:30.595 --> 00:49:32.263
[Nigro sighs] There's gotta be…

738
00:49:32.347 --> 00:49:33.640
♪ The way I hurt, yeah ♪

739
00:49:33.723 --> 00:49:37.644
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

740
00:49:37.727 --> 00:49:42.232
♪ Loved you at your worst
But that didn't matter ♪

741
00:49:42.315 --> 00:49:43.400
[laughs]

742
00:49:49.698 --> 00:49:53.201
[Rodrigo] "traitor" is one of my
favorite songs I've ever written, I think.

743
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:55.412
I really like the line,

744
00:49:55.495 --> 00:49:57.580
"I guess you didn't cheat,
but you're still a traitor."

745
00:49:57.664 --> 00:50:00.083
'Cause I think it's a really concise way
of expressing

746
00:50:00.166 --> 00:50:02.711
that super painful feeling of betrayal
that you get

747
00:50:02.794 --> 00:50:05.797
when someone you knew so well
moves on so quickly.

748
00:50:06.673 --> 00:50:10.343
And I think that's the hardest part
about being a songwriter sometimes,

749
00:50:10.427 --> 00:50:13.013
is diving into
those really painful emotions.

750
00:50:13.763 --> 00:50:16.641
I think you can never lie to yourself
when you're writing a song.

751
00:50:17.183 --> 00:50:18.643
At least, it's hard for me.

752
00:50:23.231 --> 00:50:24.524
[engine stops]

753
00:50:53.386 --> 00:50:54.596
[pedal clicks]

754
00:50:55.889 --> 00:50:58.558
-["traitor" playing]
-[piano plays]

755
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.567
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano loops]

756
00:51:11.196 --> 00:51:12.405
[clicks]

757
00:51:16.451 --> 00:51:19.037
-[beat thumps]
-[piano loops]

758
00:51:26.419 --> 00:51:29.381
-[clicks]
-[piano, beat loop]

759
00:51:37.180 --> 00:51:39.724
[guitar strums]

760
00:51:46.856 --> 00:51:49.984
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano, beat, guitar loop]

761
00:51:52.570 --> 00:51:53.905
[pedal clicks]

762
00:51:57.784 --> 00:52:00.286
[vocalizes]

763
00:52:07.794 --> 00:52:10.505
-[pedal clicks]
-[piano, beat, guitar, vocals loop]

764
00:52:12.716 --> 00:52:14.718
[clicks]

765
00:52:18.304 --> 00:52:20.890
[guitar melody plays]

766
00:52:29.441 --> 00:52:31.192
-[clicks]
-[all parts loop]

767
00:52:38.950 --> 00:52:43.580
♪ Brown, guilty eyes
And little white lies, yeah ♪

768
00:52:43.663 --> 00:52:47.042
♪ I played dumb, but I always knew ♪

769
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:53.506
♪ That you talked to her maybe
Did even worse ♪

770
00:52:53.590 --> 00:52:57.469
♪ I kept quiet so I could keep you ♪

771
00:52:58.386 --> 00:53:00.347
♪ And ain't it funny ♪

772
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:08.063
♪ How you ran to her
The second that we called it quits? ♪

773
00:53:08.938 --> 00:53:10.607
♪ Ain't it funny ♪

774
00:53:11.358 --> 00:53:18.031
♪ How you said you were friends?
Now it sure as hell don't look like it ♪

775
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.951
♪ You betrayed me ♪

776
00:53:22.452 --> 00:53:27.082
♪ And I know that
You'll never feel sorry ♪

777
00:53:27.582 --> 00:53:30.293
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

778
00:53:30.377 --> 00:53:35.090
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

779
00:53:35.173 --> 00:53:40.095
♪ Loved you at your worst
But that didn't matter ♪

780
00:53:40.178 --> 00:53:45.308
♪ It took you two weeks
To go off and date her ♪

781
00:53:45.392 --> 00:53:51.356
♪ Guess you didn't cheat
But you're still a traitor ♪

782
00:53:52.482 --> 00:53:54.984
[vocalizes]

783
00:53:56.111 --> 00:53:58.405
♪ God, I wish that you
Had thought this through ♪

784
00:53:58.488 --> 00:54:02.450
♪ Before I went and fell
In love with you ♪

785
00:54:03.076 --> 00:54:05.161
♪ Oh ♪

786
00:54:05.745 --> 00:54:08.248
♪ And when she's sleeping
In the bed we made ♪

787
00:54:08.331 --> 00:54:10.667
♪ Don't you dare forget about the way ♪

788
00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:13.837
♪ You betrayed me ♪

789
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.134
♪ 'Cause I know that
You'll never feel sorry ♪

790
00:54:19.217 --> 00:54:21.803
♪ For the way I hurt, yeah ♪

791
00:54:21.886 --> 00:54:26.433
♪ You talked to her
When we were together ♪

792
00:54:26.516 --> 00:54:31.688
♪ You gave me your word
But that didn't matter ♪

793
00:54:31.771 --> 00:54:36.735
♪ It took you two weeks
To go off and date her ♪

794
00:54:36.818 --> 00:54:41.031
♪ Guess you didn't cheat
But you're still ♪

795
00:54:41.114 --> 00:54:48.121
♪ You're still a traitor ♪

796
00:54:49.706 --> 00:54:52.500
♪ Yeah, you're still a traitor ♪

797
00:54:54.044 --> 00:54:57.213
[vocalizes]

798
00:54:57.881 --> 00:55:00.216
♪ God, I wish that you
Had thought this through ♪

799
00:55:00.300 --> 00:55:04.220
♪ Before I went and fell
In love with you ♪

800
00:55:04.304 --> 00:55:05.597
[song ends]

801
00:55:39.255 --> 00:55:41.925
So Dan and I are just,
like, losing our minds. And…

802
00:55:42.008 --> 00:55:45.387
-[both laugh]
-[person on phone] About what?

803
00:55:45.470 --> 00:55:47.847
And we wanna put one more upbeat song
on the record.

804
00:55:47.931 --> 00:55:50.725
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is not a "we" conversation.

805
00:55:50.809 --> 00:55:52.102
I wanna put one more upbeat--

806
00:55:52.185 --> 00:55:54.562
Olivia wants one more upbeat song
on the record.

807
00:55:55.230 --> 00:55:56.815
And we can't choose which song.

808
00:55:57.607 --> 00:55:58.733
[person] What do you mean?

809
00:55:58.817 --> 00:56:01.861
Like, we've been just going through songs
that are on my Voice Memos.

810
00:56:01.945 --> 00:56:04.614
What's it like when you have five days
to choose a track listing,

811
00:56:04.698 --> 00:56:06.157
and you change your mind every day?

812
00:56:06.241 --> 00:56:09.160
I'm not changing my mind every day!
I've always wanted one more upbeat song!

813
00:56:09.244 --> 00:56:11.121
[piano playing]

814
00:56:13.289 --> 00:56:15.625
[Rodrigo singing]
♪ I got my driver's license ♪

815
00:56:15.709 --> 00:56:16.751
Is it B or is it…

816
00:56:17.377 --> 00:56:18.420
[piano plays lower key]

817
00:56:18.503 --> 00:56:20.088
-♪ Driver's license-- ♪
-No, it's B-flat.

818
00:56:20.171 --> 00:56:21.715
-[Rodrigo] Yeah, it's B-flat.
-Ah, Okay.

819
00:56:21.798 --> 00:56:24.676
Should we-- We should write a song.
We could write a song today.

820
00:56:24.759 --> 00:56:26.845
-[Nigro] In what? In…
-In G-sharp minor.

821
00:56:26.928 --> 00:56:29.514
-[guitar strumming]
-[Rodrigo sings indistinctly]

822
00:56:31.516 --> 00:56:33.143
-[Rodrigo] What's that?
-I don't know.

823
00:56:33.226 --> 00:56:34.227
It's cool.

824
00:56:36.813 --> 00:56:38.440
-[Rodrigo hums]
-[Nigro] Oh.

825
00:56:39.941 --> 00:56:42.986
-[Rodrigo] What? So good.
-I'm gonna record it so I don't forget it.

826
00:56:45.572 --> 00:56:46.573
So good.

827
00:56:50.493 --> 00:56:52.954
[Rodrigo singing indistinctly]

828
00:56:57.250 --> 00:57:02.297
♪ Well, I
I wanna cry now ♪

829
00:57:03.256 --> 00:57:04.841
So good, Dan. I love it.

830
00:57:05.508 --> 00:57:07.302
[singing indistinctly]

831
00:57:11.056 --> 00:57:15.560
♪ Na na, na na
Tell me so ♪

832
00:57:19.939 --> 00:57:21.941
[both sing]

833
00:57:22.025 --> 00:57:24.778
[Nigro] Then right here you got…
[sings falsetto]

834
00:57:25.403 --> 00:57:27.238
[both sing]

835
00:57:27.781 --> 00:57:29.699
[Rodrigo sings indistinctly]

836
00:57:35.663 --> 00:57:37.123
-[Nigro] Pretty fun.
-I love that.

837
00:57:37.207 --> 00:57:39.542
[Rodrigo] It'd be cool
to have a song called "brutal."

838
00:57:39.626 --> 00:57:41.503
And I was like,
"What if the hook is like--"

839
00:57:41.586 --> 00:57:44.714
Like the verses are like, [vocalizes]
"People are mean, world is cruel."

840
00:57:44.798 --> 00:57:46.049
And then, like, the hook--

841
00:57:46.132 --> 00:57:48.760
The thing is like,
"God, it's brutal out here."

842
00:57:48.843 --> 00:57:51.388
-I like that. "It's brutal out here."
-You like that? Yeah.

843
00:57:52.013 --> 00:57:53.181
It's, like, punky.

844
00:57:53.264 --> 00:57:55.433
Sure. I like that.
I actually do like that.

845
00:57:55.517 --> 00:57:57.435
-Okay.
-I like that. I like that.

846
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:58.770
God, it's brutal out here.

847
00:58:01.481 --> 00:58:02.482
Um.

848
00:58:02.565 --> 00:58:07.487
"brutal," um, take 1. And the only take.

849
00:58:08.196 --> 00:58:10.198
We wrote this yesterday.

850
00:58:10.281 --> 00:58:12.575
[Nigro] All right.
Do you have latency or are you good?

851
00:58:12.659 --> 00:58:16.037
-I'm so-- I don't-- I can't hear it.
-You can't hear-- Oh, right, because…

852
00:58:16.663 --> 00:58:17.664
Try now.

853
00:58:17.747 --> 00:58:21.251
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

854
00:58:21.334 --> 00:58:22.377
-Good.
-Is that cool?

855
00:58:22.460 --> 00:58:24.337
I'm just gonna eat the shit
out of the mic.

856
00:58:24.421 --> 00:58:26.923
-Eat the shit out of it.
-[headphones: music plays]

857
00:58:27.007 --> 00:58:28.133
It's four, right?

858
00:58:28.216 --> 00:58:32.137
-Four times. Give it to me. Three. Nine!
-[laughs]

859
00:58:32.220 --> 00:58:35.932
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

860
00:58:36.016 --> 00:58:39.769
♪ I'm so caught up in the news
Of who likes me and who hates you ♪

861
00:58:39.853 --> 00:58:43.481
♪ I'm so tired that I might
Quit my job, start a new life ♪

862
00:58:43.565 --> 00:58:47.277
♪ And they'd all be so disappointed
'Cause I'm the girl that they exploited ♪

863
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.156
♪ And I'm so sick of 17
Where's my **** teenage dream? ♪

864
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.951
♪ If someone tells me one more time
Enjoy your youth, I'm gonna cry ♪

865
00:58:55.035 --> 00:58:58.747
♪ And I wish I was someone else
I'm anxious and no one can help ♪

866
00:58:58.830 --> 00:59:02.792
♪ And I wish I'd done this before
And I wish people liked me more ♪

867
00:59:04.002 --> 00:59:06.046
It's such a good song, Dan. I'm so glad--

868
00:59:06.129 --> 00:59:09.466
-I'm so glad we made this just on a whim.
-[laughs]

869
00:59:09.549 --> 00:59:10.884
Why not? Have fun, right?

870
00:59:10.967 --> 00:59:12.427
-Yeah.
-Is that what we're here for?

871
00:59:12.510 --> 00:59:14.763
-Yeah.
-No, there's no fun in making music ever.

872
00:59:14.846 --> 00:59:16.222
None. Especially our music.

873
00:59:16.306 --> 00:59:18.350
-It's very serious.
-[Rodrigo groans] Depressing.

874
00:59:40.914 --> 00:59:44.250
[Rodrigo]
I remember just feeling kind of trapped

875
00:59:45.085 --> 00:59:51.007
and kind of, like, flung into
this situation that I wasn't prepared for.

876
00:59:51.091 --> 00:59:53.134
It was very, like, overnight.

877
00:59:53.218 --> 00:59:55.220
Like, all of a sudden,
everyone's watching you,

878
00:59:55.303 --> 00:59:57.889
and I'm like, "Oh, my God.
Did I actually ever want this?"

879
00:59:57.972 --> 00:59:59.557
It's, like, the big question.

880
01:00:00.934 --> 01:00:03.853
And I remember, like, loving the
"Who am I if not exploited?" line.

881
01:00:03.937 --> 01:00:07.774
And I felt so-- I felt so angsty about it
when I, like, wrote it.

882
01:00:07.857 --> 01:00:10.527
And I was like,
"Yes, it's exactly what I want to say."

883
01:00:27.669 --> 01:00:30.088
That, like, period of my life
was very strange.

884
01:00:30.171 --> 01:00:32.924
And I remember feeling, like, lonely.

885
01:00:33.008 --> 01:00:35.385
And I remember
wanting a boyfriend very bad.

886
01:00:35.468 --> 01:00:38.555
And I remember that was, like,
during a time

887
01:00:38.638 --> 01:00:41.391
where I, like, kind of looked through,

888
01:00:41.474 --> 01:00:44.769
like, what people said about me,
like, online or in print.

889
01:00:45.311 --> 01:00:47.480
And I'm still reeling from this heartbreak

890
01:00:47.564 --> 01:00:50.775
and all of the drama
that went all around it.

891
01:00:50.859 --> 01:00:52.444
We were finishing up the album.

892
01:00:53.528 --> 01:00:54.946
So much stuff was happening.

893
01:00:55.697 --> 01:00:57.782
Just, like, everything
was coming to a head.

894
01:00:57.866 --> 01:01:01.745
-[instrumental music playing]
-[bells ding]

895
01:01:10.378 --> 01:01:12.589
["brutal" playing]

896
01:01:18.178 --> 01:01:22.223
♪ I'm so insecure I think
That I'll die before I drink ♪

897
01:01:22.307 --> 01:01:26.019
♪ I'm so caught up in the news
Of who likes me and who hates you ♪

898
01:01:26.102 --> 01:01:29.898
♪ And I'm so tired that I might
Quit my job, start a new life ♪

899
01:01:29.981 --> 01:01:33.818
♪ And they'd all be so disappointed
'Cause who am I if not exploited? ♪

900
01:01:33.902 --> 01:01:37.655
♪ I'm so sick of 17
Where's my **** teenage dream? ♪

901
01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:41.576
♪ If someone tells me one more time
Enjoy your youth, I'm gonna cry ♪

902
01:01:41.659 --> 01:01:45.413
♪ And I don't stick up for myself
I'm anxious and nothing can help ♪

903
01:01:45.497 --> 01:01:49.292
♪ And I wish I'd done this before
And I wish people liked me more ♪

904
01:01:49.376 --> 01:01:53.213
♪ All I did was try my best
This the kinda thanks I get ♪

905
01:01:53.296 --> 01:01:55.423
♪ Unrelentlessly upset ♪

906
01:01:55.507 --> 01:01:56.883
[backing singers] ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

907
01:01:56.966 --> 01:02:00.970
♪ They say these are the golden years
But I wish I could disappear ♪

908
01:02:01.054 --> 01:02:02.847
♪ Ego crush is so severe ♪

909
01:02:02.931 --> 01:02:04.933
♪ God, it's brutal out here ♪

910
01:02:12.607 --> 01:02:16.403
♪ I feel like no one wants me
And I hate the way I'm perceived ♪

911
01:02:16.486 --> 01:02:20.156
♪ I only have two real friends
And lately I'm a nervous wreck ♪

912
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:24.077
♪ 'Cause I love people I don't like
And I hate every song I write ♪

913
01:02:24.160 --> 01:02:28.039
♪ And I'm not cool, and I'm not smart
And I can't even parallel park ♪

914
01:02:28.123 --> 01:02:31.876
♪ All I did was try my best
This the kinda thanks I get ♪

915
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.129
♪ Unrelentlessly upset ♪

916
01:02:34.212 --> 01:02:35.547
[backing singers] ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

917
01:02:35.630 --> 01:02:39.676
♪ They say these are the golden years
But I wish I could disappear ♪

918
01:02:39.759 --> 01:02:41.553
♪ Ego crush is so severe ♪

919
01:02:41.636 --> 01:02:43.722
♪ God, it's brutal out here ♪

920
01:02:51.146 --> 01:02:53.314
[guitar solo]

921
01:03:07.620 --> 01:03:14.169
♪ Got a broken ego, broken heart ♪

922
01:03:16.796 --> 01:03:22.010
♪ And God, I don't even know where ♪

923
01:03:23.053 --> 01:03:24.512
♪ To start ♪

924
01:03:31.019 --> 01:03:32.645
[song ends]

925
01:03:41.112 --> 01:03:43.615
[Rodrigo] "hope ur ok" was the last song
I finished on the album.

926
01:03:43.698 --> 01:03:48.703
I really wanted to write a folksy,
singer-songwritery, storytelling song

927
01:03:48.787 --> 01:03:50.747
that ended the album on a hopeful note.

928
01:03:51.247 --> 01:03:54.125
I think even in the midst
of all the heartbreak and pain

929
01:03:54.209 --> 01:03:55.794
that I was talking about in the album,

930
01:03:55.877 --> 01:03:58.421
there's so much hope that goes along
with ending a relationship

931
01:03:58.505 --> 01:04:00.382
and starting a new chapter.

932
01:04:08.223 --> 01:04:09.891
Some of my favorite lyrics are
in that song.

933
01:04:09.974 --> 01:04:13.061
I really like the, "I hope he took
his bad deal and made a royal flush."

934
01:04:13.144 --> 01:04:15.522
I was writing that song in my bedroom
or living room or something.

935
01:04:15.605 --> 01:04:18.149
I remember going into the other room
where my dad was, and I was like,

936
01:04:18.233 --> 01:04:21.069
"Hey, Dad. What's the best card hand
that you can have?"

937
01:04:21.152 --> 01:04:23.697
He goes, "Royal flush." I'm like,
"Perfect. That rhymes with something."

938
01:04:23.780 --> 01:04:26.241
I go back in and, like,
put it in the song.

939
01:04:29.786 --> 01:04:31.913
[Rodrigo]
What do you think about the track listing?

940
01:04:31.996 --> 01:04:34.582
[Nigro laughs] Let's get this in.
We'll talk about it later.

941
01:04:34.666 --> 01:04:35.959
-I have lots of thoughts.
-Okay.

942
01:04:36.459 --> 01:04:39.629
[Nigro] But let's make some,
let's make some steps.

943
01:04:39.713 --> 01:04:43.258
I just-- I just want, um, "brutal"
to be the first track.

944
01:04:43.341 --> 01:04:45.301
-You really do?
-I really do.

945
01:04:46.636 --> 01:04:48.930
[Nigro sighs] Then I have
my work cut out for me this weekend.

946
01:04:49.014 --> 01:04:50.015
I know.

947
01:04:50.098 --> 01:04:51.516
[Nigro coughs]

948
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:55.020
Wait. Sorry. I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready.

949
01:04:55.103 --> 01:04:56.104
Okay. I'm ready.

950
01:04:57.022 --> 01:05:03.403
♪ And when the clouds won't iron out
And the monsters creep into your house ♪

951
01:05:03.486 --> 01:05:07.115
♪ And every door is hard to close ♪

952
01:05:07.782 --> 01:05:09.743
♪ Well, I hope you know ♪

953
01:05:11.828 --> 01:05:13.121
[recording plays]

954
01:05:13.204 --> 01:05:16.875
[Nigro] Cool. I think-- Cool.
That's good. That's great.

955
01:05:16.958 --> 01:05:19.878
I have a co-- Do like two takes,
and then I have some thoughts.

956
01:05:19.961 --> 01:05:20.962
All right.

957
01:05:21.046 --> 01:05:22.964
I want you to get used to singing it
on the mic.

958
01:05:23.048 --> 01:05:25.216
Do you want the click louder?
Are you fine with--

959
01:05:25.300 --> 01:05:28.011
-Can I have my voice louder?
-Your voice louder?

960
01:05:28.094 --> 01:05:29.512
Yeah. I'm a narcissist.

961
01:05:30.013 --> 01:05:31.139
Hold on.

962
01:05:31.222 --> 01:05:33.224
[speakers: "hope ur ok"
instrumentals playing]

963
01:05:46.571 --> 01:05:48.156
[song ends]

964
01:05:49.866 --> 01:05:52.202
-I think we might have done it, Dan!
-Yeah?

965
01:05:52.285 --> 01:05:53.328
Should I print it?

966
01:05:53.411 --> 01:05:54.996
-Yeah.
-Yeah. You feel good about it?

967
01:05:55.080 --> 01:05:56.915
I'm gonna cry!

968
01:05:56.998 --> 01:05:58.291
[Nigro laughs]

969
01:05:59.042 --> 01:06:01.795
-I'm gonna cry.
-What-- What a sad time. What a sad time.

970
01:06:01.878 --> 01:06:04.255
-It's so weird.
-[Nigro chuckles]

971
01:06:04.339 --> 01:06:08.677
It's so weird. Literally a year of my life
spent in this studio.

972
01:06:10.428 --> 01:06:13.473
[Nigro] I know.
Nothing will ever be the same.

973
01:06:13.973 --> 01:06:16.101
No. Hopefully not.

974
01:06:16.184 --> 01:06:19.062
Hopefully it won't be so sad
in the next **** record.

975
01:06:19.145 --> 01:06:22.857
[Nigro chuckling] It's like--
it's a bittersweet feeling.

976
01:06:22.941 --> 01:06:25.110
[Rodrigo chuckles] I know. So bittersweet.

977
01:06:25.193 --> 01:06:28.363
It's definitely, like,
the-last-day-of-school feeling.

978
01:06:35.245 --> 01:06:38.873
Coming from this place of hurt
and devastation,

979
01:06:38.957 --> 01:06:42.711
and you manage to turn it into something
that you're proud of

980
01:06:42.794 --> 01:06:44.629
and something that other people can enjoy,

981
01:06:44.713 --> 01:06:51.678
and something that brings acceptance
and, like, light and joy into the world,

982
01:06:51.761 --> 01:06:53.471
there's, like, nothing better than that.

983
01:06:53.555 --> 01:06:55.807
And there's, like, not a day
that, like, goes by

984
01:06:55.890 --> 01:06:58.143
that I'm not grateful for that opportunity

985
01:06:58.226 --> 01:07:01.563
and so proud of myself
that I, like, did that too.

986
01:07:07.402 --> 01:07:10.947
I've grown, like, five years' worth…
[chuckles] …in, like, one year.

987
01:07:11.031 --> 01:07:14.367
I think I'm so much of a different person
in a good way.

988
01:07:14.451 --> 01:07:18.621
I think I had to learn how to have, like,
thick skin and how to stand up for myself.

989
01:07:18.705 --> 01:07:21.499
And I think I just wanted to tell people
what was going on

990
01:07:21.583 --> 01:07:25.045
in the depths of my heart
and in the back of my head

991
01:07:25.128 --> 01:07:27.464
in a way that was proud.

992
01:07:30.633 --> 01:07:34.763
I think there's something so powerful
about that, especially as a young woman.

993
01:07:55.909 --> 01:07:57.243
[engine stops]

994
01:08:04.709 --> 01:08:07.087
["hope ur ok" playing]

995
01:08:17.972 --> 01:08:23.937
♪ I knew a boy once when I was small
A towhead blond with eyes of salt ♪

996
01:08:24.020 --> 01:08:26.815
♪ He played the drum
In the marching band ♪

997
01:08:30.026 --> 01:08:36.282
♪ His parents cared more about the Bible
Than being good to their own child ♪

998
01:08:36.366 --> 01:08:39.160
♪ He wore long sleeves 'cause of his dad ♪

999
01:08:41.496 --> 01:08:45.792
♪ And somehow we fell out of touch ♪

1000
01:08:47.210 --> 01:08:52.048
♪ Hope he took his bad deal
And made a royal flush ♪

1001
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:58.013
♪ Don't know if I'll see
You again someday ♪

1002
01:08:59.389 --> 01:09:01.433
♪ But if you're out there ♪

1003
01:09:04.519 --> 01:09:06.813
♪ I hope that you're okay ♪

1004
01:09:19.409 --> 01:09:25.540
♪ My middle school friend grew up alone
She raised her brothers on her own ♪

1005
01:09:25.623 --> 01:09:28.376
♪ Her parents hated who she loved ♪

1006
01:09:31.588 --> 01:09:34.841
♪ She couldn't wait to go to college ♪

1007
01:09:34.924 --> 01:09:38.261
♪ She was tired
'Cause she was brought into ♪

1008
01:09:38.345 --> 01:09:42.015
♪ A world where family was merely blood ♪

1009
01:09:42.807 --> 01:09:47.645
♪ Does she know how proud I am
She was created ♪

1010
01:09:49.022 --> 01:09:54.277
♪ With the courage to unlearn
All of their hatred? ♪

1011
01:09:55.362 --> 01:09:59.366
♪ We don't talk much
But I just gotta say ♪

1012
01:10:01.451 --> 01:10:02.660
♪ I miss you ♪

1013
01:10:05.997 --> 01:10:08.291
♪ And I hope that you're okay ♪

1014
01:10:08.375 --> 01:10:14.464
♪ Address the letters
To the holes in my butterfly wings ♪

1015
01:10:14.547 --> 01:10:20.762
♪ Nothing's forever
Nothing's as good as it seems ♪

1016
01:10:20.845 --> 01:10:26.935
♪ And when the clouds won't iron out
And the monsters creep into your house ♪

1017
01:10:27.018 --> 01:10:29.854
♪ And every door is hard to close ♪

1018
01:10:31.398 --> 01:10:36.820
♪ Well I hope you know how proud I am
You were created ♪

1019
01:10:38.154 --> 01:10:43.243
♪ With the courage to unlearn
All of their hatred ♪

1020
01:10:44.160 --> 01:10:48.581
♪ And God, I hope
That you're happier today ♪

1021
01:10:50.500 --> 01:10:52.127
♪ 'Cause I love you ♪

1022
01:10:55.130 --> 01:10:57.424
♪ And I hope that you're okay ♪

1023
01:10:57.507 --> 01:10:59.634
[music continuing]

1024
01:11:07.642 --> 01:11:09.978
♪ I hope that you're okay ♪

1025
01:11:10.061 --> 01:11:11.980
[music continues]

1026
01:11:47.349 --> 01:11:49.642
[music continues]

1027
01:12:07.660 --> 01:12:08.995
[song ends]

1028
01:12:10.997 --> 01:12:14.459
[Rodrigo]
♪ I know you're with somebody new ♪

1029
01:12:14.542 --> 01:12:18.213
♪ But I can't write a song
That's not all about you ♪

1030
01:12:18.296 --> 01:12:21.174
♪ It's not fair, baby ♪

1031
01:12:21.675 --> 01:12:24.678
♪ How come it's so easy ♪

1032
01:12:25.512 --> 01:12:28.848
♪ For you to forget everything you said? ♪

1033
01:12:29.683 --> 01:12:33.186
♪ Like how I was the best girl
That you'd ever met ♪

1034
01:12:33.269 --> 01:12:36.773
♪ Guess you take it back ♪

1035
01:12:36.856 --> 01:12:40.485
♪ Should've expected that ♪

1036
01:12:42.946 --> 01:12:48.034
♪ But when I say I'm fine
I'm lying really well ♪

1037
01:12:48.118 --> 01:12:51.996
♪ 'Cause I can't love anyone else ♪

1038
01:12:52.080 --> 01:12:55.166
♪ And I'm so jealous that you can ♪

1039
01:12:55.667 --> 01:12:58.878
♪ Scared I'll never feel that again ♪

1040
01:12:58.962 --> 01:13:03.800
♪ 'Cause I still can't
Call anyone "baby" ♪

1041
01:13:03.883 --> 01:13:07.303
♪ 'Cause "baby" is still you to me ♪

1042
01:13:07.387 --> 01:13:10.724
♪ Don't you think I wanna move on too? ♪

1043
01:13:11.474 --> 01:13:17.689
♪ But I can't love anyone the way
The way I loved you ♪

1044
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:20.775
[song ends]





