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HEIDI SCHRECK: I first performed
this little show

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a decade ago,
uh, for an audience

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of maybe 20 people,
mostly friends.

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♪ Ready to bloom... ♪

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I've performed it
during presidential elections,

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Supreme Court hearings,
marches and protests.

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♪ Just standing by blankly,
not getting angry... ♪

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(indistinct chatter)

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Every time I walk out there,
the world has changed.

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MAN:
Bye, girl.

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-Yep. -I never quite know
what's gonna happen.

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♪ Does it get
your blood boiling? ♪

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-♪ Does it make you see red? ♪
-(cheering)

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♪ If you knew what I knew ♪

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-♪ You would be angry, too. ♪
-Thank you.

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Hi. Hi. Thank you.

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Thank you all so much
for coming out tonight.

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Uh, I'm Heidi. Welcome.

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Uh, when I was 15 years old,
I would travel the country,

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giving speeches about
the United States Constitution

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for prize money.

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This, uh, this was a scheme
invented by my mom,

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a debate coach,
to help me pay for college.

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I would travel to big cities,
like Denver, Fresno.

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-(laughter)
-I, uh, I would win

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a whole bunch of money,
bring it back

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to put in my little
safety-deposit box for later.

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I was actually able to pay

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for my entire college education
this way.

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-(cheering, applause)
-Thank you. Thank you so much.

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It was... it was 30 years ago,
and it was a state school,

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-but thank you.
-(laughter)

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Uh, a few years ago,

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I was thinking about
the Constitution

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for various reasons.

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(laughter)

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And I, uh, I thought
it would be interesting

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to go back and see what my
15-year-old self loved so much

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about this document--
because I loved it.

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I was a zealot.
So I called my mom.

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I asked her
to send me my speech.

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She had thrown it away.

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-(laughter)
-Uh... which is weird,

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'cause, like most moms,
she saves everything.

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When I was 12, I got a buzz cut,

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so I could look like
Annie Lennox,

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and she still has
the bag of hair.

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-(laughter)
-But for some reason,

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she threw away
my prize-winning speech.

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So I thought
what I would do is...

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resurrect the speech
and the contest

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based on what I remember
about myself at 15.

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(clears throat)
Here are, uh...

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here are a few things
I remember.

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In, uh, in addition

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to being just terrifyingly
turned on all the time...

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-(laughter)
-(chuckles)

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...I was obsessed with witches
and the Salem witch trials,

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uh, theater-- here I am!--

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-and, uh...
-(whooping)

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-(applause)
-Thank you. Thank you so much.

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And most importantly,
Patrick Swayze.

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(laughter)

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This is the American Legion Hall
in Wenatchee, Washington.

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This is where I'm from.

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The "Apple Capital
of the World."

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It's a small town.
It's a little bit conservative.

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This is not a-a naturalistic
representation of the hall.

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I got my friend Rachel
to help me reconstruct this

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from my dreams.

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I guess it's kind of like

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one of those
crime victim drawings.

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(laughter)

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Also, I forgot a door.

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Uh, oh, oh, also this.

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This is the actual book I used
to prepare for this contest.

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Your Rugged Constitution.

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It is fantastic.

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It has all of these
cute little cartoons

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that explain
the amendments to you.

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It's, uh, it's endorsed
by Herbert Hoover.

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-(laughter)
-Uh...

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I actually noticed recently

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that this copy was published
in 1956,

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which means it didn't have
all the amendments,

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but that never stopped me
from winning.

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(laughter)

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Actually,
I didn't lose very often,

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because I was just really
fucking good at this contest.

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(laughter)

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My fiercest competitor was
this genius girl, Becky Dobbins,

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who every year gave a speech
about how the Constitution

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was a patchwork quilt.

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-(laughter)
-Uh...

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The thing she was
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is that, in order to win this,

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you had to draw
a personal connection

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between your own life
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And Becky was great at this.

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She would tell
these incredible stories

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about her...
her pioneer grandma who...

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I don't know, like,
ate people along the trail.

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-(laughter)
-This part...

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this part was
so much harder for me at 15.

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I just, I was very emotionally
guarded as a teenage girl,

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and I did not want to talk
about my grandmother.

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Uh, we'd give these speeches
for rooms filled with older,

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mostly white men.

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Uh, hi. Hi.

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(laughter)

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There's so many of you.

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(laughter)

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Uh, in my memory,
they were always smoking cigars,

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though I think
that can't be true, right?

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But I would love it
if you could help me out

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and just all become
the men for me.

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So you are all men now.
Thank you.

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Uh, thank you.

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(laughter)

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Okay, I'm gonna start now.

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I'm gonna be 15, but I'm not
gonna do anything weird

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to make myself 15,
so, uh, here I am, I'm 15.

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(laughter)

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Good morning.

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-AUDIENCE: Good morning.
-Welcome to the regional finals

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of the American Legion
Oratory Contest

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here at LCW Legion Post Number
Ten in Wenatchee, Washington.

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This contest exists
to develop a deeper appreciation

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for the U.S. Constitution
among high school students

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and to help them
pay for college.

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Here are the rules!
Now, this is a two-part contest.

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In part one, the contestants
get seven minutes

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to deliver a prepared oration

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that demonstrates
his or her understanding

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of the Constitution
and draws a personal connection

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between their own lives
and this great document.

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In part two, the contestants
will draw an amendment

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from this can.

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They will not have time
to prepare a speech.

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They will have to speak
extemporaneously

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on this amendment.

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Now, this part of
the contest is tough,

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and I'm not gonna make it
any easier on these kids.

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We want to give them the idea
of what it'll be like

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when they're arguing in front of
the Supreme Court one day.

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Today's contestants are
Becky Lee Dobbins

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from Lawrence, Kansas,
who brings us

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"The Constitution Is
a Patchwork Quilt,"

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and Heidi Schreck
from Wenatchee, Washington,

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"Casting Spells: The Crucible
of the Constitution."

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(laughter)

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Let's give these kids a hand
before the contest starts.

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-Get it out of your systems.
-(cheering, applause)

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All right! All right, there!

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All right, there.

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(laughter)

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Heidi Schreck.

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Please approach the podium.

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Your time begins...

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-...now. -The Constitution
is a living document.

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That is what is
so beautiful about it.

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It is a living, warm-blooded,
steamy document.

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-It is not a patchwork quilt.
-(laughter)

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It is hot and sweaty.

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It is a crucible.

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Do you know what a crucible is?

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It is a pot in which you put
many different ingredients

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and then
you boil them up together

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until they transform
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something that is
sometimes magic.

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So, you see, our Constitution
is like a witch's cauldron.

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Of course...
(clears throat)

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you all know so much more
about the Constitution

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than I do because you have
all fought in wars.

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-Thank you.
-(laughter)

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Thank you for fighting
for our country,

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and also for giving me
so much scholarship money.

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(laughter)

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Looking at all of you reminds me

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of a-a fantasy
I used to have as a little girl

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about being attacked
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A rapist or murderer
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Like all of you.

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(laughter)

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In my fantasy, I am able
to talk the rapist and murderer

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out of murdering me
because I am able

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to make you see that,
just like you,

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I am a human being.

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You say,
"I'm here to murder you,"

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and I say, "No.
Think about this for a moment.

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Just like you,
I am a human being."

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And then, you see me for
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You say, "Oh, my God,
you're right.

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You are a human being."

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And then you start to cry
and I forgive you.

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-And a rainbow appears.
-(laughter)

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And we climb up
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And by this time, a-a big crowd
of my friends from school

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has gathered on the street
below, and they're so jealous

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to see me walking
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"How can she be so special?

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Doesn't she have to be
in school?"

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And I'm like, "I'm delivering
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Have a good time in gym class!"

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(laughter)

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How does this relate to the
crucible of the Constitution?

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Well, you see, a crucible
is a boiling pot--

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that is one definition--

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but a crucible,
it's also a severe test,

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a test of patience or belief.

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A-A severe test such as the one
you and I went through together

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-when you wanted to murder me.
-(laughter)

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Just like with our situation,
our Constitution

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can be thought of
as a boiling pot

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in which we are thrown together
in sizzling and steamy conflict

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to find out what it is
we truly believe.

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This is why it's such
a radical document.

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202 years ago,

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a group of magicians
got together

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on a sweltering summer day
in Philadelphia,

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and they wanted to kill
each other, but instead...

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(laughter)

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...they sat down together
and they performed

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a collective act
of ethical visualization.

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Or as I like to call it,
a spell.

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Now, did they get
everything right? No.

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No, they didn't.

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But that's what amendments
are for, right?

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Which is why,
to conclude my speech,

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I would like to tell you
about the most magical

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and mysterious amendment
of them all: Amendment Nine.

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Amendment Nine says:

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"The enumeration
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"of certain rights,

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"shall not be construed
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retained by the people."

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Do you know what that means?

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It means
just because a certain right

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is not listed
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it doesn't mean
you don't have that right.

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The fact is there was no way
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to put down
every single right we have.

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I mean, the... the-the right
to brush your teeth.

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Yes, you've got it.

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-But how long do we want
this document to be? -(laughter)

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Here's another example.
When I was a little girl,

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-I had an imaginary friend
named Reba McEntire. -(laughter)

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She was not related
to the singer.

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Just because our Constitution
does not proclaim

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the having of imaginary friends
as one of my rights

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does not mean
I can be thrown in jail

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for being friends
with Reba McEntire.

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Isn't that amazing?

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Think about it for a moment.

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Our Constitution
doesn't tell you

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all the rights that you have
because it doesn't know.

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Justice William O. Douglas,
the great Supreme Court justice,

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when he talked about
Amendment Nine,

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he used the word "penumbra."

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What is a penumbra?

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Well, gentlemen...

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(laughter)

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...here I am,
standing in the light,

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and there you are,
sitting in the darkness.

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And, uh, this space between us,

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this space right here
of partial illumination,

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this shadowy space right here--
this is a penumbra.

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People laughed at Douglas

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for calling it this,
but I like it.

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I think it's a helpful way
to think about the Constitution

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and also maybe about our lives.

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I mean, here we are,

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stuck between what we can see
and what we can't.

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We are trapped in a penumbra.

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It-It-It's like how
when I was a little girl,

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I used to believe
that I was a changeling.

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I mean, I still think
I might be a changeling,

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but I'm gonna go ahead and keep
acting like a human being

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until my real family
comes along to claim me.

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-(laughter)
-I would sit

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on the shores of Spirit Lake
in the shadow

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of Mount St. Helens,
and I would wait

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for my real family,
the swimming fairies,

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to grab me by the legs
and pull me under the water.

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And we would swim down deep,
as deep as we could possibly go,

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and just when I thought
I was about to drown,

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we would pop up in another lake
on the other side of the world.

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And when I stepped onto
the shores of this new land,

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I would finally understand
who I really was.

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That is why I love
Amendment Nine so much.

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(laughter)

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Because it acknowledges
that who we are now

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might not be who we will become.

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It, uh, it leaves

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a little room
for the future self, and...

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and-and we-we just have to hope

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we don't drown in the process
of figuring out what that is!

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-(bell dings) -Thank you!
Thank you so much. Thank you.

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-Thank you, sir.
-(cheering, applause)

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Thank you.

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-Thank you.
-No applause, please!

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(applause stops)

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(laughter)

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Now for the extemporaneous part
of our contest.

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Miss Schreck, I'm gonna ask you

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to pick an amendment
from this can.

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I loved this part
of the contest.

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The, uh, the adrenaline,
trying to remember

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all the facts
about an amendment.

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Also, my dad
coached me on this part,

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and it was nice
because I was 15,

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so we were having
a really hard time,

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and, uh, talking about
the Constitution

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was a way for us both to pretend
I wasn't becoming a woman.

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(laughter)

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Amendment Fourteen, section 1.

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Amendment Fourteen
is big, folks.

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It contains
four different sections

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that have changed the lives
of every person in this room.

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Now, because Fourteen
is such a bear,

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the contestant will only address
section 1 of this amendment.

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Ready?

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Amendment Fourteen, section 1:

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"All persons born or naturalized
in the United States,

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"and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof,

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"are citizens
of the United States

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"and of the state
in which they reside.

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"No state shall make
or enforce any law

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"which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities

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"of citizens
of the United States;

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"nor shall any state
deprive any person

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"of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law;

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"nor deny to any person
within its jurisdiction

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the equal protection
of the law."

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Well done.

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She will have one minute
for her overview

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and two minutes to address
each of the four clauses

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of Amendment Fourteen,
section 1.

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Just a reminder:

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make this as personal
as possible.

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Tell us how this amendment
has affected your life.

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Your time begins now!

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Okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay!

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So, the Fourteenth Amendment
is like

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a giant,
supercharged force field

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protecting
all of your human rights.

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It, uh, it comes right after
the Thirteenth Amendment,

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which, as you all know,
abolished slavery,

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ending the most shameful chapter
in our nation's history.

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Lincoln knew, though,

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that just abolishing slavery
would not be enough,

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so he got his friend
John Bingham

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to help him write the Fourteenth
and Fifteenth Amendments:

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the Reconstruction amendments.

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These amendments made
the newly freed slaves citizens,

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gave them equal protection
under the law

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and protected
their right to vote.

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This amendment, Fourteen,

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huge force
in the civil rights movement.

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It, uh, it facilitated
the desegregation

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of schools, buses, hospitals,

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although that would take
over a hundred years.

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And let's be clear, somebody
had to activate the force field.

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It, uh, it took the heroic work
of civil rights leaders

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like-like Dorothy Height,

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Bayard Rustin,
Martin Luther King Jr.

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to rouse the great powers
of Amendment Fourteen.

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Uh, uh, uh... Oh!
I do want to note

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that Amendment Fourteen
gave equal rights only to men.

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Black women
were not given these rights.

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No women
were given these rights.

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The question of Native American
rights never even came up.

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Even Lincoln was trapped
in a penumbra on that one.

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This is the first time
that the word "male"

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is explicitly written
in the Constitution.

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So, whereas before there was
a little room for interpretation

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about whether women could vote,

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now it was explicit:
we could not vote.

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Lincoln asked us to wait
just a tiny bit longer

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to get the vote--
just, like, 54 years longer.

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-(laughter) -Voting is
outlined in section 2.

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Please stick to
Amendment Fourteen, section 1.

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Right, sorry. Wonderful.

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-(laughter)
-My dad says

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this is what we call
the penalty box of democracy.

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Sometimes you have to wait
for things.

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Sometimes it's better
to fix one bad thing

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-than to try to fix two bad
things and fail. -(bell dings)

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Clause 1.

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"Any persons born on U.S. soil

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"and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof

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are citizens
of the United States."

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Your time begins now.

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Clause 1 overturned

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the most disgusting Supreme
Court decision in history:

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Dred Scott v. Sandford.

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Dred Scott was a slave
who sued for his freedom in 1857

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00:17:01,938 --> 00:17:03,648
after living as a free man

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00:17:03,648 --> 00:17:05,859
with his wife and daughters
in Illinois.

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00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:08,695
Not only did
our Supreme Court rule

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00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:11,406
that Dred Scott would have
to go back to being a slave,

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00:17:11,406 --> 00:17:14,117
they decided
in a seven to two decision

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00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:16,411
that no person
of African ancestry

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00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,955
could ever become
a United States citizen.

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00:17:18,955 --> 00:17:22,834
Four members of this court
owned slaves themselves.

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00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:26,045
Although he lost,
Dred Scott's brave action

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ignited the forces of abolition,

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led to Lincoln signing
the Emancipation Proclamation

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and enshrined in law

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right here
in the Fourteenth Amendment

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the right of every person

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born on U.S. soil
to become a citizen

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except Native Americans.

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One other tricky thing
about this clause is that

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it actually--
it doesn't say anything about

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how immigrants
can become citizens.

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It leaves it up to the whims
of lawmakers

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to decide who they think
is a good immigrant

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or a bad immigrant.

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For example,

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in 1882, our government decided

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that Chinese immigrants were
dangerous and stealing jobs.

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So they passed
the Chinese Exclusion Act,

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which made immigration
from China illegal until 1943.

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On a... on a... on a...
on a deeply personal note,

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my great-great-grandmother
Theresa

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was considered a good immigrant.

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She came to Washington State

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00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:14,844
from Gengenbach, Germany,
in 1879

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00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:16,095
because
my great-great-grandfather

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ordered her from a catalog.

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00:18:18,056 --> 00:18:20,642
(laughter)

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The reason that she was
considered a good immigrant

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00:18:23,645 --> 00:18:27,315
is that the male-to-female ratio
in Washington State at this time

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was nine to one.

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00:18:29,067 --> 00:18:31,611
I-I don't know if she wanted
to come to America or not.

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00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:35,073
I do know that she died at
age 36 in a mental institution

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and that therefore she was never
actually able to become

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-a citizen. Thank you!
-(bell dings) -Clause 2.

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"No state shall make
or enforce any law

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00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:44,791
"which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities

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of citizens
of the United States."

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00:18:46,835 --> 00:18:49,462
Your time begins now.

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Clause 2 ensures that you,
as Americans,

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are free to travel
from state to state,

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00:18:53,925 --> 00:18:56,261
free to buy property
in any state

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00:18:56,261 --> 00:18:59,681
and free to pursue happiness
in every state.

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00:18:59,681 --> 00:19:02,100
(laughter)

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00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:06,688
Here's a fascinating story
about interstate travel.

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00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:09,107
(laughter)

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The lack of women during my
great-great-grandmother's time

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00:19:12,694 --> 00:19:14,946
was considered such a big
problem in Washington State

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that in 1865,
a man named Asa Mercer

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00:19:18,116 --> 00:19:21,494
cooked up a scheme to deliver
500 women to Seattle.

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He went back east
to Lowell, Massachusetts,

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00:19:23,538 --> 00:19:24,956
and he told the women there,

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00:19:24,956 --> 00:19:27,041
many of whom
had been working in factories

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00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:28,668
since they were seven years old,

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00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,962
that Seattle was a paradise
for ladies.

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00:19:30,962 --> 00:19:34,048
It was a place they could live
free and independent lives,

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become writers,
teachers, milliners.

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Then he went back to Seattle
and told the men there

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if they gave him 300 bucks,
he could guarantee them a wife.

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Now, even with all this money
from the men,

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Mercer could not afford a boat,
so he wrote to Lincoln.

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He asked for an old military
ship to transport the women.

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Lincoln did not write back.
It was 1865. He was busy.

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-(laughter)
-So, Mercer hopped a train,

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took it all the way to D.C.
to talk to Lincoln in person

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00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:02,327
only to arrive and discover

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00:20:02,327 --> 00:20:04,162
the capital
was wreathed in black

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00:20:04,162 --> 00:20:06,664
because Lincoln
had just been assassinated.

476
00:20:06,664 --> 00:20:09,083
Now, you'd think this would've
stopped Mercer's plan,

477
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:10,752
-but no, no, no, no.
-(laughter)

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00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:13,212
Instead, he went
to Ulysses S. Grant

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and he said
he had talked to Lincoln--

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-like, a while back--
-(laughter)

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00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,722
and that Lincoln had promised
him this boat for the women

482
00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:24,682
and, yes,
he was sad about Lincoln,

483
00:20:24,682 --> 00:20:25,683
but the boat?

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00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,894
Grant said, "Take it."

485
00:20:27,894 --> 00:20:30,313
A few days into this journey,

486
00:20:30,313 --> 00:20:32,732
the ship's crew started
to spread rumors on board

487
00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:34,943
that Seattle was not
a paradise for ladies.

488
00:20:34,943 --> 00:20:36,945
The men there were loggers,
they were drunks,

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00:20:36,945 --> 00:20:38,196
they beat up their wives.

490
00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:39,822
So, when the ship reached Chile,

491
00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:42,158
15 women demanded
to get off the boat.

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00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:44,327
Mercer said, sure, they
could deboard in the morning.

493
00:20:44,327 --> 00:20:45,745
And then,
in the middle of the night,

494
00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:48,748
he pulled up anchor,
effectively kidnapping them.

495
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My-my-my-my
great-great-grandmother Theresa

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00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:53,169
was purchased for $75,

497
00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:54,921
when my great-great grandfather
ordered her

498
00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:56,714
-from The Matrimonial Times--
Okay. -(bell dings)

499
00:20:56,714 --> 00:20:58,800
-Clause 3. -Just hold on.
Hold on. I just-- Hold on.

500
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,468
Ever since I've been
making this, I just--

501
00:21:00,468 --> 00:21:02,971
I've been wondering about
my great-great-grandma Theresa.

502
00:21:02,971 --> 00:21:06,391
She died of melancholia.
That was her official diagnosis.

503
00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:10,144
"Melancholia. Age 36.
Western State Mental Hospital."

504
00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:11,688
I also grew up believing

505
00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:14,607
that all the women in my family
on my mom's side

506
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,359
inherited chemical depression

507
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,361
from Theresa
and her melancholia.

508
00:21:18,361 --> 00:21:21,990
We, uh-- we all take various
forms of medication for it.

509
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:24,575
-They're working. (chuckles)
-(laughter)

510
00:21:24,575 --> 00:21:27,620
We also all have
the same way of crying--

511
00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,248
this, like, very loud,
melodramatic way of crying

512
00:21:30,248 --> 00:21:33,167
that I like to call
"Greek Tragedy Crying."

513
00:21:33,167 --> 00:21:35,128
It's where,
no matter what happens to you,

514
00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:38,756
you just-- you howl
and you wail as if, uh, uh...

515
00:21:38,756 --> 00:21:40,758
well, as if-- as if you've
just killed your own children

516
00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:41,926
because your husband
betrayed you.

517
00:21:41,926 --> 00:21:43,511
And it sounds kind of like this.

518
00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:45,680
(loud, staccato wailing)

519
00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:50,101
(laughter)

520
00:21:57,567 --> 00:22:00,570
I lost so many boyfriends
that way.

521
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,655
(laughter)

522
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,282
One of my boyfriends--

523
00:22:04,282 --> 00:22:06,701
actually, the boyfriend
who stayed, the one I married--

524
00:22:06,701 --> 00:22:08,703
he explained to me
that the-- that the crying

525
00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:10,538
just felt really aggressive,
you know?

526
00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:13,082
That it kind of felt like
I was crying right at him.

527
00:22:13,082 --> 00:22:14,709
-(chuckles)
-(laughter)

528
00:22:14,709 --> 00:22:16,335
Anyway, uh,

529
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,503
since I've been making this,
I just--

530
00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:19,505
I've been wondering
about the diagnosis.

531
00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:22,550
There are no records of what
Theresa's daily life was like,

532
00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:24,594
but it seems like
it must have been so hard,

533
00:22:24,594 --> 00:22:26,345
because it certainly was
for other women.

534
00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,765
Actually, these are
some headlines I found

535
00:22:28,765 --> 00:22:30,600
in the Cowlitz County Newspaper.

536
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,268
This was her hometown newspaper.

537
00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:34,729
These headlines
all happened in one week.

538
00:22:34,729 --> 00:22:37,231
"Napavine Man
Shoots Wife in Back."

539
00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:40,318
"Husband Stomps Wife's Face
with Spiked Logging Boots."

540
00:22:40,318 --> 00:22:43,237
"Jealous Husband Ties Woman
to Bed for Three Days."

541
00:22:43,237 --> 00:22:46,574
And this one. "B. Phelps ran
into her daughter's apartment

542
00:22:46,574 --> 00:22:48,159
"to find her son-in-law
in the act

543
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:49,786
"of shooting
her fleeing daughter.

544
00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:51,370
"'Get out of here,' he said.

545
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:54,123
-'Everything here belongs
to me.'" -(bell dings)

546
00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:58,711
Clause 3.

547
00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:00,588
"Nor shall any state
deprive any person

548
00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:04,425
of life, liberty or property
without due process of law."

549
00:23:04,425 --> 00:23:06,677
Your time begins now.

550
00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:08,221
Clause 3...

551
00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:11,891
is one of the most miraculous
in our entire Constitution.

552
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:14,393
We stole it
from the Magna Carta.

553
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:17,855
It ensures that the government
cannot lock you up,

554
00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:22,443
take your stuff or kill you
without a good reason.

555
00:23:22,443 --> 00:23:24,028
(laughter)

556
00:23:24,028 --> 00:23:28,616
It is also the heart of
the 1973 Supreme Court decision

557
00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:29,909
Roe v. Wade,

558
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:32,912
a case that is
all about penumbras.

559
00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:35,873
With the help of
Justice William O. Douglas's

560
00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,959
beautiful penumbra metaphor,

561
00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:40,336
Justice Harry Blackmun used
the Ninth Amendment

562
00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:42,421
to shine a light
into the other amendments.

563
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,924
And he found there, in
the shadows of the Constitution,

564
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:46,300
the right to privacy,

565
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:47,927
and he argued
that this gave a woman

566
00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,555
the right to decide
what to do with her own body.

567
00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:52,723
(inhales)
Uh, well, technically,

568
00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:55,518
he argued that a doctor and his
patient have a right to privacy

569
00:23:55,518 --> 00:23:57,895
so that he can decide
what to do with her body.

570
00:23:57,895 --> 00:23:59,021
(laughter)

571
00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:00,940
This was a very special moment

572
00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:02,608
for the Ninth
and Fourteenth Amendments.

573
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:04,026
They, uh, they came together

574
00:24:04,026 --> 00:24:06,696
in a-a "Wonder Twin powers,
activate" kind of way

575
00:24:06,696 --> 00:24:10,116
to protect
a woman's right to choose.

576
00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:12,743
Of course, depending on
your view, gentlemen,

577
00:24:12,743 --> 00:24:15,580
you may consider this
an unholy alliance.

578
00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:17,915
My view, which I do
feel obligated to share,

579
00:24:17,915 --> 00:24:20,334
even if it endangers
my scholarship money,

580
00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:23,171
is I support
a woman's right to choose.

581
00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:24,797
-(cheering, applause)
-Thank you.

582
00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:26,340
-Thank you so much. (stammers)
-LEGIONNAIRE: All right!

583
00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:28,217
-All right!
-I-I would also like to say

584
00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:31,345
it is a choice
I would never make personally.

585
00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:33,347
(laughter)

586
00:24:38,769 --> 00:24:40,521
I-I said that.

587
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:42,356
No, I really said that
in the contest.

588
00:24:42,356 --> 00:24:44,108
And then, uh--
and then, six years later,

589
00:24:44,108 --> 00:24:46,485
I got pregnant,
so that was confusing.

590
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,653
(laughter)

591
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,655
I didn't know what to do.

592
00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:52,700
I was 21.
I just graduated college.

593
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,869
I, um...
I was back in Wenatchee,

594
00:24:54,869 --> 00:24:56,245
living in my parents' basement.

595
00:24:56,245 --> 00:24:58,414
I was helping my dad
paint houses for the summer,

596
00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:00,625
because I was saving up money
to move to Siberia

597
00:25:00,625 --> 00:25:03,961
to teach English
for one million rubles a month.

598
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:05,963
I decided to take
a pregnancy test.

599
00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:07,381
I was just a couple days late
on my period,

600
00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:08,633
and I was just-- I was praying

601
00:25:08,633 --> 00:25:10,551
it was one of those
hysterical pregnancies

602
00:25:10,551 --> 00:25:11,761
like ladies in soap operas get.

603
00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:13,512
But I could not go
to Planned Parenthood

604
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,681
because my mom's best friend
worked there,

605
00:25:15,681 --> 00:25:17,308
and I couldn't go to a drugstore

606
00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:20,061
because someone might see me
and tell my parents.

607
00:25:20,061 --> 00:25:22,396
So I looked in the phone book.
I found this listing.

608
00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:25,024
It said, "Free Pregnancy
Testing. Quick. Confidential."

609
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,359
Sir, I'm gonna keep going.

610
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,526
-I went downtown.
-(laughter)

611
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,945
I found this unmarked building.

612
00:25:28,945 --> 00:25:30,279
I snuck in the back door.

613
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,073
And the first thing I saw
when I walked inside

614
00:25:32,073 --> 00:25:35,159
is that the walls were covered
with pictures of fetuses.

615
00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:39,830
There was this huge poster
that said,

616
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:41,415
"Adoption is
a beautiful choice,"

617
00:25:41,415 --> 00:25:44,252
and then this sign that said,
"Birthright."

618
00:25:44,252 --> 00:25:46,254
I panicked. I, uh...

619
00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:48,005
I wanted to run out
the back door.

620
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:50,424
But in case you can't tell
by this point in the show,

621
00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:54,095
I was raised to be
just psychotically polite.

622
00:25:54,095 --> 00:25:56,097
(laughter)

623
00:25:59,183 --> 00:26:01,686
So, when Marcy,
the receptionist, said,

624
00:26:01,686 --> 00:26:03,521
"We're so glad you're here,"

625
00:26:03,521 --> 00:26:06,148
I just smiled and said,
"Me, too!"

626
00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:08,901
And then she and I proceeded
to have, like...

627
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:11,654
-like, a nice-off.
-(laughter)

628
00:26:11,654 --> 00:26:13,072
She took my hand.

629
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:14,699
She said,
"Heidi, if you are pregnant,

630
00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:16,284
will this be good news
or bad news?"

631
00:26:16,284 --> 00:26:20,121
And, uh, I started to cry,
loudly, but,

632
00:26:20,121 --> 00:26:22,456
because I didn't want
to let Marcy down,

633
00:26:22,456 --> 00:26:25,793
I said... (crying):
"Good. Really good news!"

634
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:27,295
And she said, "Yay!"--

635
00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:28,921
even though she must have known
I was lying--

636
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,256
and then she hugged me.

637
00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:33,175
She hugged me,
and I sobbed into her shoulder.

638
00:26:33,175 --> 00:26:34,844
And, uh...

639
00:26:34,844 --> 00:26:37,680
And she smelled so good.

640
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,684
She smelled just like
my Grandma Betty, like...

641
00:26:41,684 --> 00:26:43,352
like White Shoulders perfume

642
00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:46,022
that has been left out
in the sun way too long.

643
00:26:46,022 --> 00:26:47,273
(laughter)

644
00:26:49,191 --> 00:26:53,195
Uh, you might remember
my town is, uh, conservative.

645
00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:55,698
It, uh-- it was
an abortion-free zone.

646
00:26:55,698 --> 00:26:56,949
You, uh--
you actually had to drive

647
00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:58,868
three hours west to Seattle,

648
00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:01,287
five hours east to Spokane
to get an abortion.

649
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:04,957
I decided I wanted to go eight
hours south to Eugene, Oregon,

650
00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:06,959
because there is a clinic there

651
00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:08,961
called the Feminist Women's
Health Collective,

652
00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:10,463
run by lesbians,

653
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,882
which is clearly the safest
possible place on the planet

654
00:27:12,882 --> 00:27:14,342
to get an abortion.

655
00:27:14,342 --> 00:27:16,594
(laughter)

656
00:27:16,594 --> 00:27:19,430
And that is what I wanted.
I wanted an abortion.

657
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,182
I knew it was my right.

658
00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:23,893
I knew it was legal.

659
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:24,977
I knew it had been legal

660
00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:27,104
for most of the history
of this country.

661
00:27:27,104 --> 00:27:29,106
Actually, because I'd been able
to go to college,

662
00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:31,108
I knew abortion
had only become a crime

663
00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:32,777
in the late 19th century,

664
00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:35,696
right before the government
started forcibly sterilizing

665
00:27:35,696 --> 00:27:37,114
women of color
and indigenous women.

666
00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:40,868
And I knew that
when abortion became illegal,

667
00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:43,871
it didn't become rare;
it only became deadly.

668
00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:45,706
I knew that, uh...

669
00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:47,583
that Gloria Steinem
had had an abortion

670
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:50,419
and Billie Jean King
and Susan Sontag.

671
00:27:50,419 --> 00:27:53,506
I, uh... I-I knew
that Penny from Dirty Dancing

672
00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:55,049
had had an abortion.

673
00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:57,218
(laughter)

674
00:27:57,218 --> 00:28:00,054
And I knew that when
Jennifer Grey asked her dad,

675
00:28:00,054 --> 00:28:02,973
Jerry Orbach,
to save Penny's life

676
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,600
after her back-alley abortion
almost killed her,

677
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,769
I knew she was asking a lot
of her father,

678
00:28:06,769 --> 00:28:08,354
because this was the 1960s

679
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,939
and Jerry Orbach
could have been arrested

680
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:11,524
for getting anywhere near
an abortion.

681
00:28:11,524 --> 00:28:13,943
And I knew that this is how
we were supposed to understand

682
00:28:13,943 --> 00:28:16,445
that Jerry Orbach was a good man

683
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:18,656
and also how we knew
that Jennifer Grey

684
00:28:18,656 --> 00:28:21,492
and Patrick Swayze's love
was real!

685
00:28:21,492 --> 00:28:23,577
(laughter)

686
00:28:27,289 --> 00:28:29,500
That is everything
that was going through my head

687
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,335
while Marcy and I were hugging.

688
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:32,670
(laughter)

689
00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:34,630
I just-- I didn't say
any of that to her though.

690
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:36,257
I didn't say anything. I, uh...

691
00:28:36,257 --> 00:28:38,342
She gave me
my positive pregnancy test.

692
00:28:38,342 --> 00:28:41,303
I said, uh, "Thank you."

693
00:28:41,303 --> 00:28:43,722
And then I headed for the door.
She followed me.

694
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,891
She gave me this pamphlet
that explained,

695
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:47,476
if I had an abortion,

696
00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:49,979
I would probably become
suicidal and barren

697
00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:51,480
and maybe go to hell.

698
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,190
And then she tucked in the tag
at the back of my dress

699
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:55,443
and she said,
"I can't help myself.

700
00:28:55,443 --> 00:28:57,945
Always a mother."

701
00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:01,949
I, uh... I also--

702
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:06,370
I didn't tell... my mother
what I was really doing.

703
00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:07,872
I have no idea why.

704
00:29:07,872 --> 00:29:10,374
I didn't tell her
I was pregnant.

705
00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:12,460
Which is weird,
because my mom's a feminist.

706
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:14,462
She's pro-choice.

707
00:29:14,462 --> 00:29:16,297
She, uh, she marched
for the Equal Rights Amendment

708
00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,048
and cried when it didn't pass.

709
00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:19,800
She even had, uh, like,
one of those, like,

710
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,803
white-lady feminist
theater troupes that does...

711
00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:26,182
I don't know, like, puppet shows
of "The Yellow Wallpaper."

712
00:29:26,182 --> 00:29:27,850
-Uh...
-(laughter)

713
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:29,935
But, for some reason,
I just-- I couldn't tell her.

714
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:32,146
In fact, I didn't tell anyone
for 25 years,

715
00:29:32,146 --> 00:29:33,898
until I started performing
this show.

716
00:29:33,898 --> 00:29:35,816
And then all my friends
came to the show

717
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:37,359
and told me
about their abortions

718
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:38,986
and their mothers
came to the show

719
00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,988
and told me about
their abortions, which, uh--

720
00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:44,408
which were
so much more harrowing.

721
00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:48,871
Actually,
I told one other person.

722
00:29:48,871 --> 00:29:51,749
I-I told the guy.
I-I told Jean.

723
00:29:51,749 --> 00:29:53,751
Jean was so chivalrous.

724
00:29:53,751 --> 00:29:55,336
He offered to pay.

725
00:29:55,336 --> 00:29:56,962
Uh, for half of it.

726
00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:58,797
-And, uh...
-(laughter)

727
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,884
he even suggested
that we drive down Highway 101

728
00:30:01,884 --> 00:30:03,511
and camp on the beaches,
make some kind of--

729
00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:05,262
kind of vacation out of it.

730
00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:07,264
-(audience groaning)
-Yeah, ew, right? Thank you.

731
00:30:07,264 --> 00:30:08,516
-Thank you!
-(laughter)

732
00:30:08,516 --> 00:30:09,975
That is how I felt!

733
00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:12,937
Look, I just... I want to say,
I don't have to say this,

734
00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:15,272
but I was on birth control
when I got pregnant.

735
00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:18,150
I had been on the pill
since I was 15 years old.

736
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,236
My friend Renee and I
snuck in the back door

737
00:30:20,236 --> 00:30:22,947
of Planned Parenthood before
my mom's friend worked there.

738
00:30:22,947 --> 00:30:24,865
Neither of us was
having sex yet, but we just...

739
00:30:24,865 --> 00:30:27,618
you know, we wanted to be
on birth control just in case.

740
00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:30,663
Just in case...
we were in a hot tub,

741
00:30:30,663 --> 00:30:32,957
and-and the sperm swam up
and attacked us.

742
00:30:32,957 --> 00:30:34,875
(laughter)

743
00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:41,924
Or, you know,
in case of a real attack.

744
00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:44,093
I remember
it was such a nice day.

745
00:30:44,093 --> 00:30:45,886
We, uh, we went to McDonald's,

746
00:30:45,886 --> 00:30:47,888
and we took our first pills
with chocolate shakes,

747
00:30:47,888 --> 00:30:51,350
and I could kind of feel it
working right away, you know?

748
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:54,103
-(laughter)
-Like, I felt very womanly.

749
00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:56,480
Like, something kind of
came alive inside of me.

750
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,482
(laughter)

751
00:31:01,652 --> 00:31:03,487
What I didn't know at the time

752
00:31:03,487 --> 00:31:05,656
is that birth control
had only been legal

753
00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:08,367
for all women in this country
for 15 years.

754
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:10,786
I mean, I was 15,
so I thought it had been legal

755
00:31:10,786 --> 00:31:12,955
since, like, the dawn of time,
but, no, no.

756
00:31:12,955 --> 00:31:16,625
In 1965, this incredible woman,
Estelle Griswold,

757
00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:19,295
got herself arrested
for giving out birth control

758
00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,755
to poor women at her
Connecticut Planned Parenthood.

759
00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:23,757
She faced a year in prison,

760
00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:27,177
took her case all the way to
the Supreme Court, and this...

761
00:31:27,177 --> 00:31:29,471
this is when
William O. Douglas brought out

762
00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:31,640
his beautiful penumbra metaphor.

763
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,560
This is when he said,
"One thing our Constitution

764
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,730
"surely guarantees
is the right to privacy,

765
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,649
"and that this allows
a woman to put in an IUD

766
00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:42,526
"as long as she is married
and as long

767
00:31:42,526 --> 00:31:45,029
as her husband says
that it is okay."

768
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:47,156
(laughter)

769
00:31:48,657 --> 00:31:51,535
This was a such a scary moment
for William O. Douglas.

770
00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:55,164
No, he-he really put himself
on the line for us.

771
00:31:55,164 --> 00:31:59,043
Because the truth is nobody
understands the Ninth Amendment.

772
00:31:59,043 --> 00:32:02,296
-Nobody, except me at 15.
-(laughter)

773
00:32:02,296 --> 00:32:03,714
Justice Scalia said

774
00:32:03,714 --> 00:32:05,507
he didn't even remember
studying it law school.

775
00:32:05,507 --> 00:32:07,801
Scalia said he couldn't tell you
what the Ninth Amendment meant

776
00:32:07,801 --> 00:32:10,763
if his life depended on it.

777
00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:12,890
Which I guess his didn't!

778
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:15,059
(laughter)

779
00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:23,692
So they had to dig up
this amendment nobody uses,

780
00:32:23,692 --> 00:32:25,986
nobody understands, because
there just was no other way

781
00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:28,739
to deal with a female body,
because our bodies,

782
00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:30,449
our bodies
had just been left out

783
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,117
of this document
from the beginning.

784
00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:33,661
They were just like,
"We don't... we don't know

785
00:32:33,661 --> 00:32:35,621
what to do
with this kind of a body."

786
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,539
(laughter)

787
00:32:37,539 --> 00:32:40,084
That is my founders impression.
Thank you.

788
00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:41,418
(laughter)

789
00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:43,754
So they dug up this amendment
nobody uses,

790
00:32:43,754 --> 00:32:46,090
because they wanted
to make birth control legal.

791
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,217
They wanted to, because,
well, because I found out

792
00:32:48,217 --> 00:32:50,010
that William O. Douglas--

793
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:52,721
who was my hero
when I was 15 years old--

794
00:32:52,721 --> 00:32:54,723
Justice William O. Douglas
was 67,

795
00:32:54,723 --> 00:32:58,769
and he was having an affair with
a 22-year-old college student.

796
00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:01,939
And... and it turns out
that three other justices

797
00:33:01,939 --> 00:33:04,274
may have been having sex
with young women, as well.

798
00:33:04,274 --> 00:33:06,193
So, I'm thinking... Right?

799
00:33:06,193 --> 00:33:07,778
They-they needed to find a way

800
00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:09,822
to get the birth control
flowing!

801
00:33:09,822 --> 00:33:11,573
-(laughter)
-I would just...

802
00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:13,158
I would love to play you
a little snippet

803
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:15,077
of the actual
Supreme Court argument,

804
00:33:15,077 --> 00:33:16,662
because it is trenchant.

805
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:18,080
Uh, it's fascinating.

806
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,208
Oh, it's... it's 1965.

807
00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:23,085
There will not be a woman
on this court

808
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:27,131
until Sandra Day O'Connor
arrives in 1981.

809
00:33:27,131 --> 00:33:30,759
Here are nine men deciding
the fate of birth control,

810
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,970
four of whom are cheating
on their wives.

811
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,763
JUSTICE STEWART (recorded):
Now that I've interrupted you,

812
00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:37,015
uh, you've told us
that in Connecticut

813
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:40,602
the sale of, uh, these devices
is, uh, not molested

814
00:33:40,602 --> 00:33:44,231
because they're sold
for the prevention of disease.

815
00:33:44,231 --> 00:33:46,483
Is this, uh, true about

816
00:33:46,483 --> 00:33:48,902
all of these devices
that are covered, uh,

817
00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:53,073
that each of them has
the potential dual function

818
00:33:53,073 --> 00:33:55,200
of acting
in a contraceptive capacity

819
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,202
and as a prevention of disease?

820
00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:58,871
THOMAS I. EMERSON:
It's probably only true

821
00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:01,415
with respect to some,
but some get by

822
00:34:01,415 --> 00:34:06,879
under the term "feminine
hygiene," and, uh, others, uh...

823
00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:09,965
(clears throat)
Uh... (clears throat)

824
00:34:09,965 --> 00:34:11,967
-uh, I-I...
-(laughter)

825
00:34:11,967 --> 00:34:14,386
I just don't know about, uh,

826
00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:16,680
but, uh... (clears throat)
uh... (clears throat)

827
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,225
They are... they are,
uh, all sold

828
00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:23,812
in Connecticut, uh, drugstores
on one theory or another.

829
00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:26,398
JUSTICE WARREN: Is there
anything in the record to...

830
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:28,776
(clears throat) to indicate, uh,

831
00:34:28,776 --> 00:34:30,694
-uh, (clears throat)
-(laughter)

832
00:34:30,694 --> 00:34:33,864
the, uh, stem of the birth rate
in Connecticut

833
00:34:33,864 --> 00:34:37,075
vis-à-vis the states
that don't have such laws?

834
00:34:38,452 --> 00:34:40,454
(laughter)

835
00:34:42,498 --> 00:34:44,583
It's, like, four hours of that.

836
00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:47,503
(laughter)

837
00:34:47,503 --> 00:34:49,671
Birth control became legal

838
00:34:49,671 --> 00:34:53,175
for single women
in this country in 1972,

839
00:34:53,175 --> 00:34:56,136
uh, which is the year after
my mom got pregnant with me.

840
00:34:56,136 --> 00:34:58,972
This is what I was thinking
about when my mom drove me

841
00:34:58,972 --> 00:35:02,142
to Seattle to meet Jean
to go down for an abortion.

842
00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:03,685
I was thinking about the fact

843
00:35:03,685 --> 00:35:05,395
that she was my age
when she had me,

844
00:35:05,395 --> 00:35:07,523
that she wanted to become
an actor and a writer

845
00:35:07,523 --> 00:35:09,608
and move to New York City,
which is, of course,

846
00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,236
what I'm gonna do,
but I don't know that yet.

847
00:35:12,236 --> 00:35:13,821
And as soon as
I have that thought,

848
00:35:13,821 --> 00:35:15,906
I'm overcome by
this horrible wave of nausea.

849
00:35:15,906 --> 00:35:18,534
I ask her to pull the car over,
I open the door,

850
00:35:18,534 --> 00:35:20,285
I puke on the side of the road,

851
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,455
and when I sit back up,
I can tell that she knows.

852
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:28,919
And I'm just... I'm waiting for
her to tell me that it's okay,

853
00:35:28,919 --> 00:35:32,422
that, uh, that it's my body,

854
00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:34,258
and like she taught me,
this is my decision.

855
00:35:34,258 --> 00:35:38,428
But when I look at my mom, she's
got this wild look in her eyes.

856
00:35:38,428 --> 00:35:40,305
And then she starts
hyperventilating.

857
00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:42,391
She's basically having
some kind of panic attack.

858
00:35:42,391 --> 00:35:46,478
And all of a sudden, she shouts,
"You better not be pregnant!"

859
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:49,106
And I shout, "I'm not pregnant!"

860
00:35:49,106 --> 00:35:51,358
-(bell dings)
-Clause 4.

861
00:35:51,358 --> 00:35:54,027
(laughter)

862
00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:56,822
"No state shall deny to any
person within its jurisdiction

863
00:35:56,822 --> 00:35:59,199
the equal protection
of the laws."

864
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,910
Clause 4 is even more
miraculous than Clause 3.

865
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:04,746
It is
the Equal Protection Clause.

866
00:36:04,746 --> 00:36:07,082
It ensures that we cannot
be discriminated against

867
00:36:07,082 --> 00:36:10,794
on the basis
of race, sex, religion,

868
00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:13,547
immigration status.

869
00:36:13,547 --> 00:36:17,426
It, uh, it actually uses the
word "person," not "citizen,"

870
00:36:17,426 --> 00:36:20,095
which means if you are
an undocumented immigrant,

871
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:22,347
you must be given all
the protections of Clause 3,

872
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:24,016
the Due Process Clause.

873
00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:26,560
You cannot be locked up
without a fair trial.

874
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,106
You cannot have anything
or-or anyone seized from you.

875
00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:42,075
I, uh...

876
00:36:48,332 --> 00:36:50,459
I just... I've been talking
about this, uh...

877
00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:52,920
this clause for such
a long time, over ten years,

878
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,298
and, uh, I find it
harder and harder

879
00:36:56,298 --> 00:36:58,508
to talk about every day.

880
00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:00,177
Uh, although to be honest,

881
00:37:00,177 --> 00:37:02,638
it wasn't that easy
ten years ago, either.

882
00:37:05,807 --> 00:37:08,769
Uh, I also... I do have, um...

883
00:37:10,812 --> 00:37:13,815
I have a personal connection
to the Equal Protection Clause.

884
00:37:13,815 --> 00:37:16,109
I just... I never would have
spoken about it at 15.

885
00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:18,403
I, uh... I didn't tell anyone.

886
00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:21,448
And whenever I get
to this part, I...

887
00:37:23,033 --> 00:37:26,954
I just... I have this desire
to protect my 15-year-old self

888
00:37:26,954 --> 00:37:28,956
from speaking about it.

889
00:37:36,463 --> 00:37:40,968
Uh... actually, you know what?
I'm gonna, um...

890
00:37:40,968 --> 00:37:43,971
I'm gonna just talk about
the Equal Protection Clause,

891
00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:46,723
uh, as myself, now.
I'm gonna... I'm...

892
00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:49,726
In fact, I'm just... I'm gonna
be myself now all the time now.

893
00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:51,728
-So...
-(laughter)

894
00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:58,902
I'm gonna be, uh, an adult woman
in my very late 40s.

895
00:37:58,902 --> 00:38:01,405
-Hi.
-(laughter)

896
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:06,326
Also, my face just fucking
hurts from smiling like that.

897
00:38:06,326 --> 00:38:08,495
(laughter)

898
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:16,753
I'm sorry, sir.

899
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,589
I actually have no idea what
your purpose is here anymore.

900
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:21,425
(laughter)

901
00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:25,012
Uh...

902
00:38:27,389 --> 00:38:29,057
The clause is miraculous.

903
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,727
It, uh... it really is.

904
00:38:31,727 --> 00:38:34,646
People have used it to do
so much good in this country.

905
00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:38,191
Uh, the Equal Protection Clause
was used...

906
00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:42,863
It was actually the heart
of the civil rights movement.

907
00:38:42,863 --> 00:38:46,199
Decades after this contest,
uh, it will be used,

908
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,035
along with
the Due Process Clause,

909
00:38:48,035 --> 00:38:49,995
to make
marriage equality possible.

910
00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:52,039
This clause was used to win
all sorts of rights

911
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,000
for working women, including
the right to equal pay,

912
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,586
the right to be free
from sexual harassment.

913
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,714
-Uh...
-(laughter)

914
00:39:00,714 --> 00:39:02,924
A few years before
this contest in 1983,

915
00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:05,469
lawyers tried to use this clause
to address the problem

916
00:39:05,469 --> 00:39:07,888
of physical and sexual violence
toward women,

917
00:39:07,888 --> 00:39:10,140
with the idea
that you can't possibly

918
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:12,184
be equal in this country
if you are subject

919
00:39:12,184 --> 00:39:14,936
to epidemic levels of violence.

920
00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:19,441
Uh, as you may already know,
four women are murdered

921
00:39:19,441 --> 00:39:22,611
every day in this country
by a male partner.

922
00:39:22,611 --> 00:39:24,446
It, uh, it was
actually three women

923
00:39:24,446 --> 00:39:26,073
when I started performing
a year ago.

924
00:39:26,073 --> 00:39:27,824
It's gone up.

925
00:39:27,824 --> 00:39:31,161
One in three American women
are sexually assaulted

926
00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:33,538
during their lifetime.

927
00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:36,917
Uh... one in five--

928
00:39:36,917 --> 00:39:38,919
I'm sorry, yes.

929
00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:48,970
Uh, one in three American women

930
00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:52,390
are sexually assaulted
during their lifetime.

931
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:56,770
One in five American women are
raped during their lifetime.

932
00:39:56,770 --> 00:40:00,398
Uh, a study came out recently
that said the United States

933
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,192
was one of the ten most
dangerous countries

934
00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:03,819
in the world for women.

935
00:40:03,819 --> 00:40:06,154
That's physical
and sexual violence,

936
00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:09,533
sex trafficking, uh,
lack of access to health care,

937
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,369
lack of access
to reproductive care,

938
00:40:12,369 --> 00:40:16,832
death in childbirth, uh,
especially for Black women,

939
00:40:16,832 --> 00:40:18,834
gun violence.

940
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:23,588
Uh, on a personal note,

941
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:27,259
ten million American women
live in violent households.

942
00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:30,387
My mom lived
in a house like this.

943
00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:32,097
So did my Grandma Betty

944
00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:35,475
and, uh, probably
my great-great-grandma Theresa,

945
00:40:35,475 --> 00:40:37,894
though, uh, I don't... I don't
have any evidence for that

946
00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:40,605
except for maybe, maybe the fact
that she died of melancholia

947
00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:43,316
at age 36.

948
00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:45,861
Uh, will you hand me
my Grandma Betty index cards?

949
00:40:48,029 --> 00:40:50,323
I, uh, I just...
I want to tell you a little bit

950
00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:52,868
about my Grandma Betty
and the Equal Protection Clause.

951
00:40:52,868 --> 00:40:54,995
I actually...
I know these stories very well.

952
00:40:54,995 --> 00:40:56,830
I prefer to read them.

953
00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:58,874
"My, uh...

954
00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:03,044
"my Grandma Betty married
my grandpa when she was 19.

955
00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:06,173
"My grandpa was what we call
in my family a good man,

956
00:41:06,173 --> 00:41:09,176
"which meant that he didn't
beat up his wife and kids.

957
00:41:09,176 --> 00:41:11,428
"He was a six-foot-six logger

958
00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:13,763
"who built the one-bedroom house
they lived in

959
00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:15,765
"with his bare hands.

960
00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:19,519
"Legend has it
that he chopped down the trees

961
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:20,854
"to build this house,

962
00:41:20,854 --> 00:41:22,355
"and then he dragged
the lumber up

963
00:41:22,355 --> 00:41:24,858
"from the base
of Mount St. Helens on his back

964
00:41:24,858 --> 00:41:26,109
like a horse."

965
00:41:26,109 --> 00:41:28,195
I, uh, I actually have
never understood

966
00:41:28,195 --> 00:41:30,780
that part of the story,
because he had a truck.

967
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:32,782
(laughter)

968
00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:36,995
"Grandma Betty
and her good husband

969
00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,873
"had two kids when my grandma
got pregnant with my mom.

970
00:41:39,873 --> 00:41:41,917
"One day, she was feeling antsy.

971
00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:44,294
"She wanted to go
to the Cowlitz County Fair.

972
00:41:44,294 --> 00:41:46,546
"My grandpa took
an extra logging shift

973
00:41:46,546 --> 00:41:48,089
"to pay for the tickets.

974
00:41:48,089 --> 00:41:49,925
"He and his partner Ray
were sawing

975
00:41:49,925 --> 00:41:52,344
"a 150-foot evergreen tree.

976
00:41:52,344 --> 00:41:54,596
"They misjudged
the trajectory of the tree

977
00:41:54,596 --> 00:41:57,724
"and it fell on my grandpa,
killing him.

978
00:41:57,724 --> 00:42:01,478
"My mom was born while
my grandma was still grieving.

979
00:42:01,478 --> 00:42:04,147
"My widowed Grandma Betty
supported her three kids

980
00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:06,900
"by working as a waitress
at the local diner.

981
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:11,154
"A man named Dick came in often.

982
00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:13,531
Dick was a barber.
He was very good-looking."

983
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,533
My grandma loved
good-looking men.

984
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,244
-As do I.
-(laughter)

985
00:42:17,244 --> 00:42:20,205
"My, uh, my Grandma Betty
married Dick pretty quickly.

986
00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:23,208
"Pretty quickly,
he started to beat her up.

987
00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:24,542
He beat up her kids."

988
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:25,961
They had
three more kids together.

989
00:42:25,961 --> 00:42:27,963
He beat them up, too.

990
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:33,468
"When my mom's sister turned 16,
my grandma's husband raped her.

991
00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:36,805
"My aunt got pregnant.
She went away to have the baby.

992
00:42:36,805 --> 00:42:39,683
"He raped her again.
She went away again.

993
00:42:39,683 --> 00:42:42,852
"She came back home after
giving birth to a second child

994
00:42:42,852 --> 00:42:45,397
and graduated
at the top of her class."

995
00:42:45,397 --> 00:42:47,274
I, uh, I just want to say,

996
00:42:47,274 --> 00:42:49,901
all of these kids grew up
to be pretty happy. (sniffles)

997
00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:51,653
They did, miraculously.

998
00:42:51,653 --> 00:42:53,863
They, uh, they all have
families that they love

999
00:42:53,863 --> 00:42:58,451
and jobs-jobs that, like
most of us, they kind of like.

1000
00:42:58,451 --> 00:43:00,620
Uh, none of them
perpetuated the abuse

1001
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,038
that had been inflicted on them.

1002
00:43:02,038 --> 00:43:03,999
I realize it is not
great storytelling

1003
00:43:03,999 --> 00:43:06,126
to skip to the end like this,
but I actually don't want you

1004
00:43:06,126 --> 00:43:08,461
to have to worry about them
for the rest of the play.

1005
00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,171
-(laughter)
-They are okay.

1006
00:43:10,171 --> 00:43:12,215
Like so many people
in this country

1007
00:43:12,215 --> 00:43:17,512
who go through similar things,
uh, they are mostly okay.

1008
00:43:17,512 --> 00:43:22,183
I, uh... I was
so pissed off at my mom

1009
00:43:22,183 --> 00:43:24,019
when she told me that story.

1010
00:43:24,019 --> 00:43:27,105
She, uh, she told me
when I was 15, and I remember,

1011
00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:28,898
I was just,
I was furious with her

1012
00:43:28,898 --> 00:43:31,359
because I was a deeply
heterosexual 15-year-old girl.

1013
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,654
I just, I really wanted to make
out with boys all the time.

1014
00:43:34,654 --> 00:43:37,115
I-I did not want to think
that they could be violent

1015
00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:38,533
or they could be rapists.

1016
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:40,035
Uh, I mean,
they could be troubled.

1017
00:43:40,035 --> 00:43:42,537
-I loved it when
they were troubled. -(laughter)

1018
00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:45,290
They could be, like-like,
a down-and-out dance instructor

1019
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:49,210
-at a Catskills resort.
-(laughter)

1020
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:52,422
But, uh, the thing
I remember saying to my mom is,

1021
00:43:52,422 --> 00:43:56,051
"Why didn't Grandma Betty just
take all of you and run away?"

1022
00:43:56,051 --> 00:43:58,011
And, uh, my mom
had no answer for me.

1023
00:43:58,011 --> 00:43:59,888
She went in her room,
she shut the door,

1024
00:43:59,888 --> 00:44:01,639
she wouldn't come out.

1025
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:06,311
Uh, but my dad took me aside
and he explained, um,

1026
00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:10,065
that Grandma Betty couldn't
run away because she was sick,

1027
00:44:10,065 --> 00:44:12,192
because she had this thing
that women get

1028
00:44:12,192 --> 00:44:14,736
called
"battered woman syndrome."

1029
00:44:14,736 --> 00:44:16,946
Which, uh-- I remembered
I was so confused by that.

1030
00:44:16,946 --> 00:44:18,865
Like, "Oh, no,
how do you catch that?"

1031
00:44:18,865 --> 00:44:21,743
And, uh, also, if you ever met
my Grandma Betty,

1032
00:44:21,743 --> 00:44:24,621
you would know this was
an absurd way to describe her.

1033
00:44:24,621 --> 00:44:27,040
She, uh, she was
almost six feet tall.

1034
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,293
She had these gigantic muscles,
this wild black hair.

1035
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:32,212
Beautiful.

1036
00:44:32,212 --> 00:44:36,633
In, uh, in addition to waitress,
her other job was log runner.

1037
00:44:36,633 --> 00:44:38,635
That is where you stand
on a bunch of logs

1038
00:44:38,635 --> 00:44:41,679
in a raging river, and then
you take this giant stick,

1039
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,807
and all day long, you just,
you just push the logs

1040
00:44:43,807 --> 00:44:46,184
down the river till they...

1041
00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:48,728
Actually, I don't know
what happens to the logs.

1042
00:44:48,728 --> 00:44:50,397
(laughter)

1043
00:44:53,108 --> 00:44:54,526
(laughs):
This is...

1044
00:44:54,526 --> 00:44:57,946
This is my favorite thing
to do in the whole show.

1045
00:44:57,946 --> 00:44:59,948
(laughter)

1046
00:44:59,948 --> 00:45:04,536
Also, he can't stop me 'cause
I didn't write anything for him.

1047
00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,037
(laughter)

1048
00:45:07,622 --> 00:45:10,917
Not my grandma's dream job,
by the way, log runner.

1049
00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:12,585
What she wanted to be
from the time

1050
00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:14,671
she was a little girl
was a painter.

1051
00:45:14,671 --> 00:45:17,715
And she actually taught herself
to paint by copying Picasso,

1052
00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:20,301
who was her favorite,
so her little one-bedroom house

1053
00:45:20,301 --> 00:45:22,345
was filled with
all of these, just,

1054
00:45:22,345 --> 00:45:24,973
shitty-looking
Picasso reproductions.

1055
00:45:24,973 --> 00:45:26,307
And when I was a little girl,

1056
00:45:26,307 --> 00:45:28,268
I thought
they were her paintings.

1057
00:45:28,268 --> 00:45:30,895
I think I was in high school
before I realized that Picasso,

1058
00:45:30,895 --> 00:45:35,108
and not my Grandma Betty,
had invented The Weeping Woman.

1059
00:45:36,151 --> 00:45:38,278
I, uh, whenever I talk
about the things

1060
00:45:38,278 --> 00:45:41,322
that the women in my family
wanted to be, all this, um...

1061
00:45:41,322 --> 00:45:43,658
all this crazy stuff
happens in my body.

1062
00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:47,454
Like, uh, I've had this pain
in my back for, like, a year,

1063
00:45:47,454 --> 00:45:50,665
and, uh, my throat
gets really tight.

1064
00:45:50,665 --> 00:45:54,586
Like, I can't get
my voice out, and I, uh...

1065
00:45:56,588 --> 00:46:01,259
I, uh, I have this painting
of my grandma's up in my house.

1066
00:46:01,259 --> 00:46:04,053
And I think, I think
maybe she was a good painter;

1067
00:46:04,053 --> 00:46:08,224
she just, she never painted
anything that was hers.

1068
00:46:14,063 --> 00:46:17,984
It's funny, actually, Jean and I
went to see my Grandma Betty

1069
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:19,569
on the way to get my abortion.

1070
00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:21,946
And I remember I wanted
to tell her what I was doing

1071
00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:24,491
'cause I thought
she might be happy for me.

1072
00:46:24,491 --> 00:46:27,035
My, uh, my Great-Grandma
Breckyn had 16 children.

1073
00:46:27,035 --> 00:46:29,037
My Grandma Betty
had six children

1074
00:46:29,037 --> 00:46:30,872
and a violent husband.

1075
00:46:30,872 --> 00:46:32,957
I just, I thought she might
be excited that I was

1076
00:46:32,957 --> 00:46:35,084
getting to do something
different with my life.

1077
00:46:35,084 --> 00:46:38,671
But, uh, after the way
my mom reacted, I just...

1078
00:46:38,671 --> 00:46:40,632
I remember I almost told her.

1079
00:46:40,632 --> 00:46:41,925
She, uh, she made these

1080
00:46:41,925 --> 00:46:43,259
beautiful popovers
for breakfast.

1081
00:46:43,259 --> 00:46:45,220
I sat down at the table
and I almost said,

1082
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:47,430
"Grandma Betty, I'm pregnant."

1083
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:53,269
And instead, I said,
"Grandma Betty, I miss George."

1084
00:46:53,269 --> 00:46:55,271
Which is-- I actually have
no idea why I said that.

1085
00:46:55,271 --> 00:46:57,482
George was this sock monkey
that she sewed for me

1086
00:46:57,482 --> 00:46:59,150
-when I was three years old.
-(laughter)

1087
00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:01,069
I loved this sock monkey
to death.

1088
00:47:01,069 --> 00:47:02,862
I mean, I murdered him
with my love.

1089
00:47:02,862 --> 00:47:04,989
He was missing an eye;
he was missing a tail.

1090
00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:06,824
Eventually, like,
I got a little shoebox

1091
00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:08,368
and made a monkey coffin
for him.

1092
00:47:08,368 --> 00:47:10,870
And I remember telling
my Grandma Betty that I wished

1093
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:13,873
that I could take George the
sock monkey with me to Siberia.

1094
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,291
And my grandma just went, "Mm!"

1095
00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:16,584
'cause she was
very unsentimental.

1096
00:47:16,584 --> 00:47:20,338
But the next Christmas,
she sewed me

1097
00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:23,007
a brand-new sock monkey
and she sent him

1098
00:47:23,007 --> 00:47:26,636
all the way to Russia,
and I named this new sock monkey

1099
00:47:26,636 --> 00:47:29,055
-George the Second.
-(laughter)

1100
00:47:29,055 --> 00:47:31,891
And then when I turned 40,
I, uh, I decided

1101
00:47:31,891 --> 00:47:34,602
George the Second was lonely
and needed some kind of friend.

1102
00:47:34,602 --> 00:47:37,480
So I bought this tiny little
red-and-white-striped monkey

1103
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,192
that I named
George the Second's Friend.

1104
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:43,861
And to this day...

1105
00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:45,863
I am married.

1106
00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:47,448
(laughter)

1107
00:47:47,448 --> 00:47:49,701
To this day,
George the Second's Friend

1108
00:47:49,701 --> 00:47:51,953
is the most important person
in my life.

1109
00:47:51,953 --> 00:47:54,080
(laughter)

1110
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,499
I bet you're wondering
how any of this relates

1111
00:47:56,499 --> 00:47:58,334
to the Equal Protection Clause.

1112
00:47:58,334 --> 00:48:00,211
(laughter)

1113
00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:02,213
In spite of how it feels,

1114
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:03,715
and apparently
what some people think,

1115
00:48:03,715 --> 00:48:06,092
this play is
so carefully constructed.

1116
00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:08,928
(laughter, applause)

1117
00:48:08,928 --> 00:48:12,473
-It's not my fault if you can't
see the structures. -(applause)

1118
00:48:12,473 --> 00:48:15,518
In, uh, in 2005,

1119
00:48:15,518 --> 00:48:18,771
the Fourteenth Amendment
was invoked

1120
00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:22,567
in a case called
Castle Rock v. Gonzales.

1121
00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:26,821
"Jessica Gonzales had received
a restraining order

1122
00:48:26,821 --> 00:48:29,157
"against her violent husband.

1123
00:48:29,157 --> 00:48:32,535
"A month later, he kidnapped
their three daughters.

1124
00:48:32,535 --> 00:48:35,830
"Jessica, terrified, called
the police seven times for help

1125
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:38,666
"and went to the station twice
in person

1126
00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:40,335
"to show them
the restraining order

1127
00:48:40,335 --> 00:48:43,004
"and beg them
to look for her daughters.

1128
00:48:43,004 --> 00:48:45,673
"The police not only
refused to help her,

1129
00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:48,885
"they asked her
to stop bothering them.

1130
00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:52,680
"By morning, Mr. Gonzales
had legally purchased

1131
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,891
"a semiautomatic weapon
while their daughters

1132
00:48:54,891 --> 00:48:58,603
"waited in the car
and then killed them.

1133
00:48:58,603 --> 00:49:01,230
"Jessica Gonzales--

1134
00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:04,400
"who now goes by
the name Lenahan--

1135
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,403
"Jessica Lenahan
very bravely sued

1136
00:49:07,403 --> 00:49:09,322
"the Castle Rock
Police Department

1137
00:49:09,322 --> 00:49:12,408
"for failing to show up
to protect her and her kids.

1138
00:49:12,408 --> 00:49:15,328
"The state of Colorado
had recently passed a law

1139
00:49:15,328 --> 00:49:17,372
"that required police
to arrest a person

1140
00:49:17,372 --> 00:49:19,582
"who had violated
a protective order.

1141
00:49:19,582 --> 00:49:23,670
"So Jessica sued and she won.

1142
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:27,507
"Then the city appealed,
took the case all the way

1143
00:49:27,507 --> 00:49:30,510
"to the Supreme Court,
and this court,

1144
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:33,221
"led by Antonin Scalia,

1145
00:49:33,221 --> 00:49:37,058
"overturned her case,
killed the Colorado law,

1146
00:49:37,058 --> 00:49:39,185
"and gutted
the Violence Against Women Act

1147
00:49:39,185 --> 00:49:41,229
"by ruling that
the police did not have

1148
00:49:41,229 --> 00:49:43,231
"a constitutional obligation

1149
00:49:43,231 --> 00:49:47,151
to protect Jessica Lenahan
or her daughters."

1150
00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:51,698
I, uh, I just, I listened to
this case so many times, uh...

1151
00:49:53,616 --> 00:49:57,245
And the thing I notice when
I hear the justices speak...

1152
00:49:59,247 --> 00:50:02,041
The thing I notice is that
they spend very little time

1153
00:50:02,041 --> 00:50:05,545
talking about Jessica Lenahan
as a human being.

1154
00:50:05,545 --> 00:50:08,047
They don't talk about
her daughters--

1155
00:50:08,047 --> 00:50:09,882
Rebecca, who was ten,

1156
00:50:09,882 --> 00:50:14,429
Katheryn, who was eight,
Leslie, who was seven.

1157
00:50:14,429 --> 00:50:18,641
Instead, they spend
a very long time

1158
00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:21,227
arguing about the word "shall."

1159
00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:24,230
As in the phrase
"the police shall enforce

1160
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:25,857
a restraining order."

1161
00:50:25,857 --> 00:50:27,900
And, look, I understand,
even as a layperson,

1162
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:30,278
that precise language
is crucial in law.

1163
00:50:30,278 --> 00:50:33,239
But I find the balance
of these two things...

1164
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:37,785
At one point, Justice Scalia
and Justice Breyer

1165
00:50:37,785 --> 00:50:40,079
got in this little argument
about whether either of them

1166
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,373
even understood
what the word "shall" meant.

1167
00:50:42,373 --> 00:50:44,208
Uh, Terri, can you...?

1168
00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:46,669
JUSTICE SCALIA (recorded):
Wait, wait, I-I thought we were

1169
00:50:46,669 --> 00:50:49,005
just talking here
about state law

1170
00:50:49,005 --> 00:50:51,674
as to whether "shall"
means "shall."

1171
00:50:51,674 --> 00:50:54,010
Do you think that
that it's a matter of state law

1172
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:57,096
whether-whether,
if it does mean "shall,"

1173
00:50:57,096 --> 00:50:59,682
it creates a property interest
for purposes

1174
00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,768
of the federal, uh,
Constitution?

1175
00:51:01,768 --> 00:51:03,352
JOHN C. EASTMAN:
No, Justice Scalia, I don't.

1176
00:51:03,352 --> 00:51:05,480
JUSTICE BREYER: Suppose
"shall" does mean "shall."

1177
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,024
Fine. But you might have
a statute that says,

1178
00:51:08,024 --> 00:51:10,651
"The fire department
shall respond to fires.

1179
00:51:10,651 --> 00:51:15,364
"The police department
shall respond to crimes.

1180
00:51:15,364 --> 00:51:21,496
The Army shall respond
to, uh, uh, attacks."

1181
00:51:21,496 --> 00:51:25,124
Even the word "shall"
doesn't necessarily mean...

1182
00:51:25,124 --> 00:51:29,462
Scalia ultimately decided that
"shall" did not mean "must,"

1183
00:51:29,462 --> 00:51:31,631
Which, uh, which I actually
find very confusing

1184
00:51:31,631 --> 00:51:33,925
because Scalia
was a devout Catholic.

1185
00:51:33,925 --> 00:51:36,093
(laughter)

1186
00:51:39,263 --> 00:51:42,308
Some constitutional scholars
have called this decision

1187
00:51:42,308 --> 00:51:45,102
the death of the Fourteenth
Amendment for women.

1188
00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:47,188
It basically shuts down
the possibility to look

1189
00:51:47,188 --> 00:51:50,024
to our federal government,
to our Constitution,

1190
00:51:50,024 --> 00:51:52,985
for protection from
physical and sexual violence.

1191
00:51:52,985 --> 00:51:56,405
It's most devastating
for women of color,

1192
00:51:56,405 --> 00:51:57,865
for trans women,

1193
00:51:57,865 --> 00:52:00,701
for nonbinary
and binary trans folx,

1194
00:52:00,701 --> 00:52:02,870
for women with disabilities,
for indigenous women--

1195
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:04,747
who suffer the most violence
in this country.

1196
00:52:04,747 --> 00:52:06,749
And right now, it's terrible.

1197
00:52:06,749 --> 00:52:09,001
It's actually killing
immigrant women

1198
00:52:09,001 --> 00:52:12,171
and their children
who are fleeing violence.

1199
00:52:12,171 --> 00:52:13,965
I, uh, I just--

1200
00:52:13,965 --> 00:52:18,177
I really, really wanted
to understand why.

1201
00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,012
How they decided this.

1202
00:52:20,012 --> 00:52:22,598
I just... Maybe because
of my own family history

1203
00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:24,016
of this kind of violence,

1204
00:52:24,016 --> 00:52:25,852
I just, I needed
to make sense of it.

1205
00:52:25,852 --> 00:52:30,231
So, I talked to several
constitutional scholars,

1206
00:52:30,231 --> 00:52:32,233
and this is what I learned.

1207
00:52:34,443 --> 00:52:37,154
I learned about
two kinds of rights:

1208
00:52:37,154 --> 00:52:40,950
negative rights
and positive rights.

1209
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:45,162
Negative rights protect us from
the government taking our stuff,

1210
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:47,498
locking us up, killing us.

1211
00:52:47,498 --> 00:52:49,792
Positive rights
are active rights.

1212
00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:53,170
They are things the government
must do or provide.

1213
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:57,800
They include things like...
like the right to a fair trial,

1214
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,427
to an attorney,

1215
00:52:59,427 --> 00:53:01,804
in some countries,
the right to health care.

1216
00:53:01,804 --> 00:53:03,973
(laughter)

1217
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:07,727
Our Constitution, primarily,
with some exceptions,

1218
00:53:07,727 --> 00:53:09,729
is a negative rights document.

1219
00:53:09,729 --> 00:53:11,397
It was designed
to protect the men

1220
00:53:11,397 --> 00:53:13,691
who made it and their property--

1221
00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:15,776
their property
that was sometimes people--

1222
00:53:15,776 --> 00:53:17,528
from the government,
which is in part

1223
00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:19,572
how they came to decide
that Jessica Lenahan

1224
00:53:19,572 --> 00:53:21,324
was not entitled

1225
00:53:21,324 --> 00:53:24,493
to any active or positive
protection from the police.

1226
00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:26,037
I also learned

1227
00:53:26,037 --> 00:53:28,748
that if the Equal Rights
Amendment had been ratified,

1228
00:53:28,748 --> 00:53:31,667
she might have been entitled
to protection under that.

1229
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:33,794
And I understood
for the first time

1230
00:53:33,794 --> 00:53:36,714
why my mom cried
when that didn't pass.

1231
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,846
So, what I'm trying
to understand right now

1232
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:47,099
is what does it mean
if this Constitution

1233
00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:51,270
will not protect us
from the violence of men?

1234
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:53,856
And I don't want to vilify men.
I don't-- I love men.

1235
00:53:53,856 --> 00:53:55,066
I really do.

1236
00:53:55,066 --> 00:53:57,276
-I fucking love you.
-(laughter)

1237
00:53:57,276 --> 00:53:59,737
I'm the daughter of a father.

1238
00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:01,739
(laughter)

1239
00:54:01,739 --> 00:54:04,533
(applause)

1240
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:06,911
But the facts,
the facts are so extreme.

1241
00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:08,788
They really--
I had no idea, truly.

1242
00:54:08,788 --> 00:54:10,414
I did-- I thought
it would be interesting

1243
00:54:10,414 --> 00:54:12,625
to take the prompt
of this contest seriously,

1244
00:54:12,625 --> 00:54:15,294
to-to find a personal connection

1245
00:54:15,294 --> 00:54:17,713
between my life
and this Constitution,

1246
00:54:17,713 --> 00:54:19,840
and then I learned
that this century,

1247
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,593
the 21st century,
more American women

1248
00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:24,845
have been killed
by their male partners

1249
00:54:24,845 --> 00:54:27,890
than Americans
have died in wars,

1250
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:30,893
including 9/11.

1251
00:54:30,893 --> 00:54:33,729
That, uh...

1252
00:54:33,729 --> 00:54:35,439
That is not the number of women

1253
00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:37,650
who have been killed
by men in this country.

1254
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:40,319
That is only the number
of women who have been killed

1255
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:43,364
by the men
who supposedly love them.

1256
00:54:45,366 --> 00:54:47,368
Which is...

1257
00:54:49,662 --> 00:54:51,998
I just, I-I...

1258
00:54:51,998 --> 00:54:56,085
find the statistic
so overwhelming, I...

1259
00:54:56,085 --> 00:54:59,088
I have to forget about it
just to get through my day.

1260
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:03,009
Except, I think you can't
forget about it, right?

1261
00:55:03,009 --> 00:55:04,635
I think...

1262
00:55:06,012 --> 00:55:09,348
...even if you don't know
the statistic,

1263
00:55:09,348 --> 00:55:12,977
the truth of that
is there all the time.

1264
00:55:14,979 --> 00:55:16,814
The truth of that...

1265
00:55:18,899 --> 00:55:22,236
...rampant violence
against women's bodies

1266
00:55:22,236 --> 00:55:26,657
is underneath everything
all the time...

1267
00:55:28,534 --> 00:55:30,536
...humming.

1268
00:55:47,219 --> 00:55:49,764
When I was 17,

1269
00:55:49,764 --> 00:55:52,892
I used the money from
your contest to go to college.

1270
00:55:52,892 --> 00:55:55,144
I, uh, I registered prelaw.

1271
00:55:55,144 --> 00:55:57,980
I also auditioned
for the fall play Red Noses.

1272
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,648
It was about a theater troupe
in the Middle Ages

1273
00:55:59,648 --> 00:56:01,233
trying to survive the plague.

1274
00:56:01,233 --> 00:56:03,486
I played a one-legged
tap dancer who dies.

1275
00:56:03,486 --> 00:56:05,613
(laughter)

1276
00:56:05,613 --> 00:56:08,240
On, uh, on the first day
of rehearsal, this senior boy

1277
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,493
asked me if I wanted
a ride home, and I said sure,

1278
00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:13,037
and then, uh, as soon as we got
to my dorm, he parked the car.

1279
00:56:13,037 --> 00:56:14,538
He said, "Oh, my God,
I've been waiting to kiss you

1280
00:56:14,538 --> 00:56:16,165
for so long,"
which I thought was weird

1281
00:56:16,165 --> 00:56:18,084
'cause we'd known each other
three hours.

1282
00:56:18,084 --> 00:56:20,795
But he was cute,
so I kissed him,

1283
00:56:20,795 --> 00:56:24,423
and then suddenly,
he just took off my pants.

1284
00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:26,717
And, uh...

1285
00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:29,512
You all, I was so smart
when I was 17.

1286
00:56:29,512 --> 00:56:31,889
I-I was way smarter
than I am now.

1287
00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:33,891
Plus, I had read everything,
I thought.

1288
00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:37,561
I-I had read Gloria Steinem
and bell hooks and Audre Lord.

1289
00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:40,147
I-I was taking
advanced feminist studies.

1290
00:56:40,147 --> 00:56:42,983
And yet I still decided to go
ahead and have sex with this guy

1291
00:56:42,983 --> 00:56:45,903
because it seemed like
the polite thing to do.

1292
00:56:45,903 --> 00:56:47,404
(laughter)

1293
00:56:48,656 --> 00:56:50,658
I think.

1294
00:56:52,952 --> 00:56:54,370
Now, I don't know, though.

1295
00:56:54,370 --> 00:56:55,871
Uh, I don't know, because, uh,

1296
00:56:55,871 --> 00:56:57,873
when I remember
being in the car,

1297
00:56:57,873 --> 00:57:00,417
I remember how dark
it was outside.

1298
00:57:00,417 --> 00:57:03,129
I remember looking around. Uh...

1299
00:57:03,129 --> 00:57:04,672
There was nobody on the street.

1300
00:57:04,672 --> 00:57:07,550
My dorm was way, way out
on the edge of campus.

1301
00:57:07,550 --> 00:57:10,344
And I remember
having this sick feeling

1302
00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:12,930
in the pit of my stomach,

1303
00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:16,142
and then this fleeting thought,

1304
00:57:16,142 --> 00:57:19,311
so quick, I almost
can't put it into language.

1305
00:57:19,311 --> 00:57:23,190
But if I had to say it out loud,
it would sound like:

1306
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:25,818
"stay alive."

1307
00:57:28,404 --> 00:57:29,822
Which is...

1308
00:57:32,032 --> 00:57:34,743
It's, uh, it's really strange,
because this guy

1309
00:57:34,743 --> 00:57:36,662
would not have hurt me.

1310
00:57:36,662 --> 00:57:38,164
He wouldn't.
I know that he wouldn't.

1311
00:57:38,164 --> 00:57:39,748
We're friends to this day.

1312
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:43,377
I mean, we're
Facebook friends, but...

1313
00:57:43,377 --> 00:57:46,046
(laughter)

1314
00:57:47,548 --> 00:57:50,176
I'm 99% sure
he would not have hurt me,

1315
00:57:50,176 --> 00:57:54,096
so why did I feel like
my life was in danger?

1316
00:57:56,974 --> 00:57:59,185
Can you read
those Hammurabi index cards?

1317
00:58:04,732 --> 00:58:06,942
The first law pertaining
to domestic violence

1318
00:58:06,942 --> 00:58:09,528
comes from Hammurabi in 1800 BC.

1319
00:58:09,528 --> 00:58:11,697
It decreed that a husband
could inflict punishment

1320
00:58:11,697 --> 00:58:14,116
on any member of his household
for any reason.

1321
00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:16,202
The Roman code of pater familias

1322
00:58:16,202 --> 00:58:18,204
said a man could
kill his wife for adultery

1323
00:58:18,204 --> 00:58:19,830
or for walking outside
without her face covered.

1324
00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:22,124
In Renaissance France,
when it became clear

1325
00:58:22,124 --> 00:58:24,126
that too many women and children
were being beaten to death

1326
00:58:24,126 --> 00:58:26,670
and it was hurting the economy,
men were restricted

1327
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:28,923
to blows
that did not leave marks.

1328
00:58:28,923 --> 00:58:30,883
In 18th-century England,
the law said that a man

1329
00:58:30,883 --> 00:58:32,635
could only hit his wife
with a whip or stick

1330
00:58:32,635 --> 00:58:34,303
no thicker than his thumb.

1331
00:58:34,303 --> 00:58:36,138
Although many people think
this is where the phrase

1332
00:58:36,138 --> 00:58:38,724
"rule of thumb" originated,
that's not actually true.

1333
00:58:38,724 --> 00:58:41,936
Ooh, that thing I said,
about the male-to-female ratio

1334
00:58:41,936 --> 00:58:43,938
in Washington State
being nine to one?

1335
00:58:43,938 --> 00:58:45,439
Not true.

1336
00:58:45,439 --> 00:58:47,858
That is what my history teacher
Mr. Berger taught me.

1337
00:58:47,858 --> 00:58:49,735
There were thousands
and thousands of women

1338
00:58:49,735 --> 00:58:51,362
in Washington State, of course.

1339
00:58:51,362 --> 00:58:54,240
The women of the Salish tribes,
the Wenatchi tribes.

1340
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,158
And apparently,
some of these women

1341
00:58:56,158 --> 00:58:58,285
had been marrying
white men for a hundred years,

1342
00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:00,162
and according
to these women's journals,

1343
00:59:00,162 --> 00:59:02,206
these marriages
were actually pretty good.

1344
00:59:02,206 --> 00:59:04,124
Because these tribes
were egalitarian.

1345
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:06,794
Women could be priests.
They could be translators.

1346
00:59:06,794 --> 00:59:08,295
They could be boat makers.

1347
00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:11,882
Then Washington became a state,
was under the umbrella

1348
00:59:11,882 --> 00:59:13,717
of the Constitution
that I worshipped,

1349
00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:15,302
which meant
that indigenous women

1350
00:59:15,302 --> 00:59:17,012
were no longer
considered people,

1351
00:59:17,012 --> 00:59:18,973
the marriages became illegal,

1352
00:59:18,973 --> 00:59:20,808
and they brought in
a bunch of white women

1353
00:59:20,808 --> 00:59:22,226
like my
Great-Great-Grandmother Theresa.

1354
00:59:22,226 --> 00:59:23,644
-Go ahead.
-(laughter)

1355
00:59:23,644 --> 00:59:26,313
In 1910, the U.S. Supreme Court
ruled that a wife

1356
00:59:26,313 --> 00:59:28,649
could not press assault charges
against a husband

1357
00:59:28,649 --> 00:59:30,526
because it would
open the doors of the courts

1358
00:59:30,526 --> 00:59:33,654
to accusations of all sorts
of one spouse against the other.

1359
00:59:33,654 --> 00:59:36,407
In 1977,
the California Penal Code stated

1360
00:59:36,407 --> 00:59:38,450
that wives charging husbands
with criminal assault

1361
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:40,536
must suffer more injuries
than commonly needed

1362
00:59:40,536 --> 00:59:42,162
for charges of battery.

1363
00:59:42,162 --> 00:59:44,832
In 2005, the Supreme Court
ruled that Jessica Lenahan

1364
00:59:44,832 --> 00:59:46,959
could not sue the
Castle Rock Police Department

1365
00:59:46,959 --> 00:59:50,254
for failing to show up
to protect her and her children.

1366
00:59:50,254 --> 00:59:52,339
In 2014, the Inter-American
Commission on Human Rights ruled

1367
00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:54,425
that the United States
violated the human rights

1368
00:59:54,425 --> 00:59:57,344
-of Jessica Lenahan and her
daughters. -Thank you, Mike.

1369
00:59:57,344 --> 00:59:59,013
-Uh, everybody, this is Mike.
-(cheering, applause)

1370
00:59:59,013 --> 01:00:00,597
He's, uh-- yeah, he's wonderful.

1371
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:02,433
He's a wonderful person,
wonderful actor.

1372
01:00:02,433 --> 01:00:04,852
And, uh, when I realized
I was gonna have to talk about

1373
01:00:04,852 --> 01:00:06,895
so much violence
up here onstage,

1374
01:00:06,895 --> 01:00:09,356
I just, I really wanted
some positive male energy

1375
01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:10,983
up here with me.

1376
01:00:10,983 --> 01:00:12,985
(laughter)

1377
01:00:12,985 --> 01:00:15,070
(cheering, applause)

1378
01:00:20,492 --> 01:00:22,870
I'm representing
a real person from Heidi's life,

1379
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:26,373
Mel Yonkin,
who was a-a Legionnaire.

1380
01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:28,709
He fought in World War II.

1381
01:00:28,709 --> 01:00:31,337
He was an incredibly sweet man
that would travel

1382
01:00:31,337 --> 01:00:33,088
around the country
with Heidi and her family,

1383
01:00:33,088 --> 01:00:34,882
going from contest to contest.

1384
01:00:34,882 --> 01:00:37,176
He always told her
how proud he was of her,

1385
01:00:37,176 --> 01:00:40,304
and-and when she won,
he would get kind of misty,

1386
01:00:40,304 --> 01:00:41,972
pretend he had a cold.

1387
01:00:41,972 --> 01:00:43,932
(laughter)

1388
01:00:43,932 --> 01:00:45,559
I was very excited
when Heidi asked me

1389
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:47,102
to be a part of the show,
although I did think

1390
01:00:47,102 --> 01:00:48,729
it was kind of
a serious responsibility

1391
01:00:48,729 --> 01:00:52,316
-to be representing "positive
male energy." -(laughter)

1392
01:00:52,316 --> 01:00:54,318
I feel like I spent
many years sort of refusing

1393
01:00:54,318 --> 01:00:55,611
to be boxed in gender-wise.

1394
01:00:55,611 --> 01:00:57,112
I guess I kind of
thought of myself

1395
01:00:57,112 --> 01:00:59,365
as having gender-neutral energy.

1396
01:00:59,365 --> 01:01:01,617
Which, given that
I always present as male,

1397
01:01:01,617 --> 01:01:04,912
sometimes that seems a little...
irresponsibly privileged to me.

1398
01:01:04,912 --> 01:01:07,289
Also, I would like to be able
to report that I also had

1399
01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:10,042
a crush on Patrick Swayze when
I was younger like Heidi did.

1400
01:01:10,042 --> 01:01:11,460
(laughter)

1401
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:14,588
But the truth is I was kind of
more into Mel Gibson.

1402
01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:16,340
(laughter)

1403
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:17,925
(laughs):
Yeah. No, I...

1404
01:01:17,925 --> 01:01:20,511
(laughter)

1405
01:01:20,511 --> 01:01:22,721
I just, I just really
wanted to be him

1406
01:01:22,721 --> 01:01:25,265
in-in the movie The Road
Warrior, and after it came out,

1407
01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:26,892
I was always talking
to my friends about,

1408
01:01:26,892 --> 01:01:28,685
(Australian accent):
"Oh, I want to dye a little tuft

1409
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:30,771
of my hair blond over my ear,"

1410
01:01:30,771 --> 01:01:32,481
(normal voice):
like Mel had in the movie.

1411
01:01:32,481 --> 01:01:34,650
And I thought I had
a hilarious Australian accent,

1412
01:01:34,650 --> 01:01:36,485
but, I mean, you just heard it;
it's a Cockney accent.

1413
01:01:36,485 --> 01:01:37,736
(laughter)

1414
01:01:37,736 --> 01:01:39,363
Which is interesting
because my dad actually

1415
01:01:39,363 --> 01:01:41,782
is a British
working-class immigrant,

1416
01:01:41,782 --> 01:01:43,534
but he's not a Cockney.

1417
01:01:43,534 --> 01:01:45,202
He's from Wales and Yorkshire,

1418
01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,829
which are two
totally different accents.

1419
01:01:46,829 --> 01:01:48,455
I won't be doing them
for you now.

1420
01:01:48,455 --> 01:01:49,623
-You are welcome.
-(laughter)

1421
01:01:49,623 --> 01:01:52,292
Um, my dad is this
incredibly charming guy.

1422
01:01:52,292 --> 01:01:54,044
All my friends are really crazy
about him, and I remember

1423
01:01:54,044 --> 01:01:56,338
being a kid, and both
kind of admiring his, like,

1424
01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:58,882
masculine charisma, and also
knowing that something about it

1425
01:01:58,882 --> 01:02:00,551
was, like, a little bit put on.

1426
01:02:00,551 --> 01:02:04,721
For example, he went
through a CB radio phase.

1427
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:06,807
I was in high school, we were
driving across country together,

1428
01:02:06,807 --> 01:02:08,559
but we were
in two different cars,

1429
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:11,437
and so he wanted us
to stay in touch via CB radios.

1430
01:02:11,437 --> 01:02:13,063
And so, he would say stuff
like, "Heads up, Mike,

1431
01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:14,481
we're gonna take
a left at the next exit."

1432
01:02:14,481 --> 01:02:16,024
And I would say
stuff like, "Dad,

1433
01:02:16,024 --> 01:02:17,609
when are we gonna get
a bathroom break?"

1434
01:02:17,609 --> 01:02:19,278
And once, another voice broke in

1435
01:02:19,278 --> 01:02:21,780
and said,
"Couple queers on the line."

1436
01:02:21,780 --> 01:02:23,615
-(laughter)
-Like, a trucker or somebody,

1437
01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:26,785
like, a deep male voice, like,
deeper than mine or my dad's.

1438
01:02:26,785 --> 01:02:30,372
There was a terrible pause,
like, a pit in my stomach.

1439
01:02:30,372 --> 01:02:32,499
Was my dad lisping
inadvertently?

1440
01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,126
Or was I or something?

1441
01:02:34,126 --> 01:02:37,796
And then my dad responded,
"And a faggot listening in."

1442
01:02:37,796 --> 01:02:40,716
(laughter, groaning)

1443
01:02:40,716 --> 01:02:44,970
So, all things considered,
good save? Or...

1444
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:46,388
(laughter)

1445
01:02:46,388 --> 01:02:48,390
But I must not have been out
to my dad at that point.

1446
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:49,892
There's no way he would use
that kind of language

1447
01:02:49,892 --> 01:02:52,352
if he'd known
I was gay back then.

1448
01:02:52,352 --> 01:02:56,690
I mean, I didn't really know
I was gay back then.

1449
01:02:56,690 --> 01:03:00,402
Maybe I thought my sexual
orientation was "nerd."

1450
01:03:00,402 --> 01:03:02,946
(laughter)

1451
01:03:04,448 --> 01:03:06,074
Couple years after that,
I was in college,

1452
01:03:06,074 --> 01:03:07,826
and I was gonna drive down
from Maine to Boston

1453
01:03:07,826 --> 01:03:09,286
to live with my girlfriend--

1454
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:10,704
I was still dating women
at the time--

1455
01:03:10,704 --> 01:03:14,958
and I was wearing a YSL
slate-blue suit vest as a shirt,

1456
01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:16,793
tight cotton cutoffs

1457
01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:20,005
with these big-big red, white
and blue stripes on them,

1458
01:03:20,005 --> 01:03:23,133
and brown ankle boots
with these fuzzy pink socks

1459
01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:24,968
kind of like rolled up,
peeking out the top.

1460
01:03:24,968 --> 01:03:27,095
And so, my dad saw me
as I was headed out the door

1461
01:03:27,095 --> 01:03:28,555
and he says,
"You look ridiculous.

1462
01:03:28,555 --> 01:03:30,224
You cannot wear this!"

1463
01:03:30,224 --> 01:03:31,850
And I know he was
only trying to protect me,

1464
01:03:31,850 --> 01:03:33,060
but he may also
have had a point,

1465
01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:34,561
because a couple years
after that,

1466
01:03:34,561 --> 01:03:36,104
I was first living here
in New York City,

1467
01:03:36,104 --> 01:03:37,689
I was with four of my friends,

1468
01:03:37,689 --> 01:03:40,817
we were walking from
the Tunnel Bar to another bar

1469
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:42,736
that was literally just called
The Bar, that was down

1470
01:03:42,736 --> 01:03:44,655
in the East Village,
like, right off the F train,

1471
01:03:44,655 --> 01:03:50,327
and I was wearing black nylon
Patricia Field hot pants

1472
01:03:50,327 --> 01:03:52,829
with these little red velvet
polka dots on them.

1473
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:54,289
And we passed
a group of teenagers,

1474
01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:56,500
and one of them
punched me in the face.

1475
01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,836
As I've gotten older,
I've become more comfortable

1476
01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:02,339
just kind of...

1477
01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:04,883
presenting as "basic male."

1478
01:04:06,885 --> 01:04:08,887
It feels...

1479
01:04:10,597 --> 01:04:13,433
...I don't know, more me.

1480
01:04:13,433 --> 01:04:15,060
I think.

1481
01:04:17,312 --> 01:04:19,565
Couple years ago,
I was in Baltimore

1482
01:04:19,565 --> 01:04:22,401
and I was at a sports bar
called Pickles Pub.

1483
01:04:22,401 --> 01:04:24,403
And there was a guy at the bar.

1484
01:04:24,403 --> 01:04:26,196
He was, like,
six-foot-two, 230 pounds,

1485
01:04:26,196 --> 01:04:28,031
like, a big, big bald white guy.

1486
01:04:28,031 --> 01:04:31,201
And behind the bar was a woman
and she was running around

1487
01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:32,411
taking everybody's orders.

1488
01:04:32,411 --> 01:04:34,454
And so, the guy turns to me
and he goes,

1489
01:04:34,454 --> 01:04:36,873
"Don't you want to fuck her?"

1490
01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:38,542
And there was a weird pause

1491
01:04:38,542 --> 01:04:40,627
where I didn't really know
how to respond to that.

1492
01:04:40,627 --> 01:04:43,422
I mean, was he really asking me?

1493
01:04:43,422 --> 01:04:47,801
Was he testing me
to find out if I was gay?

1494
01:04:49,136 --> 01:04:50,679
Was he capable of violence?

1495
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,307
Was the woman behind the bar
feeling like how you felt

1496
01:04:53,307 --> 01:04:55,559
in the car with that guy
that time?

1497
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:57,603
This guy was, like, a beast
physically, but I also had

1498
01:04:57,603 --> 01:05:00,897
this kind of weird sympathy
for him.

1499
01:05:00,897 --> 01:05:04,985
So, I slapped him on the back
and I said, "Good luck, man,"

1500
01:05:04,985 --> 01:05:07,821
and I walked out of the bar.

1501
01:05:11,450 --> 01:05:15,203
I would love it now
if all this could go away, too.

1502
01:05:15,203 --> 01:05:18,915
Uh, the contest, all of this.

1503
01:05:18,915 --> 01:05:21,543
I, uh, I would love to have

1504
01:05:21,543 --> 01:05:24,671
one of those incredible
Broadway set changes now.

1505
01:05:24,671 --> 01:05:26,882
(laughter)

1506
01:05:26,882 --> 01:05:28,884
♪ Let it go. ♪

1507
01:05:28,884 --> 01:05:30,886
(laughter)

1508
01:05:35,015 --> 01:05:36,850
(laughter)

1509
01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:39,144
Uh, since it's not
that kind of play,

1510
01:05:39,144 --> 01:05:41,146
uh, maybe we could
all just imagine

1511
01:05:41,146 --> 01:05:42,898
that we're someplace else.

1512
01:05:42,898 --> 01:05:45,108
Maybe we could imagine
something else.

1513
01:05:48,445 --> 01:05:51,073
And you are welcome
to be yourselves again.

1514
01:05:51,073 --> 01:05:55,452
If you haven't already done
that, this is a perfect time.

1515
01:05:55,452 --> 01:05:59,456
You are, uh, you are
so welcome to be yourself.

1516
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:20,352
My mom and my aunt,
uh, are the ones

1517
01:06:20,352 --> 01:06:22,979
who told the police
about their stepfather,

1518
01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:26,692
because my Grandma Betty
was too scared to do it.

1519
01:06:26,692 --> 01:06:29,277
My, uh, my mom and my aunt
had been born

1520
01:06:29,277 --> 01:06:32,239
a little further out
of the penumbra than my grandma.

1521
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:35,534
They were born
a little over 20 years

1522
01:06:35,534 --> 01:06:38,787
after women got
the right to vote.

1523
01:06:38,787 --> 01:06:41,415
Also, my mom had
this woman teacher

1524
01:06:41,415 --> 01:06:45,210
who took her aside, told her
something else was possible,

1525
01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:50,215
and also taught her this newly
fashionable word, "feminist."

1526
01:06:52,384 --> 01:06:54,761
When, uh, when my mom's
stepfather found out

1527
01:06:54,761 --> 01:06:58,724
they had talked to the police,
uh, he became enraged.

1528
01:06:58,724 --> 01:07:01,435
He got his constitutionally
protected gun,

1529
01:07:01,435 --> 01:07:04,438
and he threatened
to kill his whole family.

1530
01:07:04,438 --> 01:07:07,357
And my Grandma Betty
finally decided,

1531
01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:09,526
in spite of the fact
that she'd inherited

1532
01:07:09,526 --> 01:07:11,945
the pretty logical belief
that her life

1533
01:07:11,945 --> 01:07:15,198
and her kids' lives did not
matter in the eyes of the law,

1534
01:07:15,198 --> 01:07:17,784
in spite of that, she decided
she had to do something.

1535
01:07:17,784 --> 01:07:22,664
So she finally gathered all
her kids together and ran away.

1536
01:07:24,666 --> 01:07:29,129
The, uh, the police
showed up for my family.

1537
01:07:29,129 --> 01:07:31,381
It was a small town.

1538
01:07:31,381 --> 01:07:33,550
They were white.

1539
01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:37,637
They, uh... they arrested
my mom's stepfather,

1540
01:07:37,637 --> 01:07:39,931
but my Grandma Betty
was too terrified

1541
01:07:39,931 --> 01:07:43,685
to testify against him,
so, uh, my mom did that, too,

1542
01:07:43,685 --> 01:07:47,481
in support of her sister,
at age 15.

1543
01:07:47,481 --> 01:07:50,484
And then my Grandma Betty
said that she was lying.

1544
01:07:55,447 --> 01:07:57,282
She was not lying.

1545
01:07:57,282 --> 01:08:00,118
Uh, her stepfather was sentenced
to 30 years in prison.

1546
01:08:00,118 --> 01:08:01,745
He served two.

1547
01:08:01,745 --> 01:08:03,830
But, uh, the fact
that he went to prison at all

1548
01:08:03,830 --> 01:08:05,832
is probably why I get
to be here right now,

1549
01:08:05,832 --> 01:08:07,959
telling you these stories.

1550
01:08:07,959 --> 01:08:10,253
Sometimes, uh,
when I think about how brave

1551
01:08:10,253 --> 01:08:14,299
my mom and my aunt were
as teenage girls,

1552
01:08:14,299 --> 01:08:18,428
I just-- I mean, it gives me
such respect for them.

1553
01:08:18,428 --> 01:08:20,639
It makes me want
to do more, be braver.

1554
01:08:20,639 --> 01:08:23,475
But also, it also
makes me think about the fact

1555
01:08:23,475 --> 01:08:26,269
that progress
doesn't only move one way.

1556
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:29,856
I just, I feel so excited
by young people lately.

1557
01:08:29,856 --> 01:08:31,066
I really do.

1558
01:08:31,066 --> 01:08:33,568
I feel like you all
are so much braver

1559
01:08:33,568 --> 01:08:35,320
than I remember being
at your age,

1560
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,781
you have more compassion,
you certainly have

1561
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,991
a more sophisticated
understanding of gender.

1562
01:08:39,991 --> 01:08:41,618
(laughter)

1563
01:08:41,618 --> 01:08:44,704
-(exhales)
-(applause)

1564
01:08:44,704 --> 01:08:46,706
Sometimes, I feel like
you're, like you're shining

1565
01:08:46,706 --> 01:08:48,708
a light backwards
into the darkness

1566
01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:51,628
so I can follow you
into the future.

1567
01:08:53,046 --> 01:08:56,174
I, uh, I've actually--
I've struggled my whole life

1568
01:08:56,174 --> 01:08:59,928
to forgive my grandma
for not protecting my mom.

1569
01:08:59,928 --> 01:09:01,555
I just, I...

1570
01:09:03,348 --> 01:09:05,183
I don't know how to forgive her,

1571
01:09:05,183 --> 01:09:07,185
because it made
my mom's life so hard.

1572
01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:10,730
But, uh, but that's also
really confusing,

1573
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:13,900
because I loved
my grandma so much.

1574
01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:17,028
I mean, we all loved her.
My mom loved her.

1575
01:09:17,028 --> 01:09:19,739
My aunts and uncles loved her.

1576
01:09:19,739 --> 01:09:24,661
And-and the Grandma Betty I knew
is-is not the same woman

1577
01:09:24,661 --> 01:09:26,538
who didn't protect her kids.

1578
01:09:26,538 --> 01:09:29,833
The grandma I knew
loved us all like crazy.

1579
01:09:29,833 --> 01:09:32,419
She gave her whole life
to her kids,

1580
01:09:32,419 --> 01:09:33,879
her grandkids,
her great-grandkids.

1581
01:09:33,879 --> 01:09:35,463
She would've done
anything for us.

1582
01:09:35,463 --> 01:09:38,758
She-she... she sent me that sock
monkey all the way to Siberia.

1583
01:09:38,758 --> 01:09:40,635
She-- I know she would have
thrown her body

1584
01:09:40,635 --> 01:09:42,012
in front of a truck for me.

1585
01:09:42,012 --> 01:09:43,555
So I have no idea
how to make sense

1586
01:09:43,555 --> 01:09:45,640
of my two grandmothers.

1587
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,517
Except while I've been
making this,

1588
01:09:47,517 --> 01:09:49,519
I've realized
how many of us are forced

1589
01:09:49,519 --> 01:09:52,355
to be two people
in this culture.

1590
01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:55,233
Actually, something I learned
from a younger person,

1591
01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:56,985
a younger feminist, that
helps me understand my grandma

1592
01:09:56,985 --> 01:09:58,361
just a little bit better,

1593
01:09:58,361 --> 01:10:00,071
is they taught me
about this concept

1594
01:10:00,071 --> 01:10:01,907
called "covert resistance."

1595
01:10:01,907 --> 01:10:05,076
Covert resistance
is the idea that sometimes

1596
01:10:05,076 --> 01:10:08,455
seemingly passive,
victim-like behaviors, uh,

1597
01:10:08,455 --> 01:10:12,292
pleasing behaviors, are
the sanest and smartest response

1598
01:10:12,292 --> 01:10:16,296
to living in a violent culture,
in a culture and a country

1599
01:10:16,296 --> 01:10:18,715
that is making it clear
every single day

1600
01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:21,885
it has no fucking interest
in protecting you.

1601
01:10:23,136 --> 01:10:26,306
In the case of, say,
my grandmother,

1602
01:10:26,306 --> 01:10:29,893
covert resistance is
all the invisible, brave actions

1603
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:32,729
a woman takes inside a violent
relationship she can't leave

1604
01:10:32,729 --> 01:10:34,940
because she doesn't make
as much money as a man,

1605
01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:37,233
because the police might not
show up when she calls,

1606
01:10:37,233 --> 01:10:40,320
or depending on
the color of her skin,

1607
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,323
they might show up and
something terrible might happen.

1608
01:10:49,371 --> 01:10:51,456
Because she doesn't have
decision-making power

1609
01:10:51,456 --> 01:10:53,166
over her own fucking body.

1610
01:10:54,918 --> 01:10:57,253
Covert resistance
doesn't really fit

1611
01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:59,673
into our traditional
narratives of heroism.

1612
01:10:59,673 --> 01:11:03,134
It, uh, it involves
a lot of tiny, daily actions.

1613
01:11:03,134 --> 01:11:06,096
It involves things like
a woman feeding her kids,

1614
01:11:06,096 --> 01:11:08,348
working 12 hours a day for them,

1615
01:11:08,348 --> 01:11:10,016
helping them get
a good education,

1616
01:11:10,016 --> 01:11:12,852
helping them graduate
at the top of their class.

1617
01:11:12,852 --> 01:11:14,813
It can also involve
less positive things,

1618
01:11:14,813 --> 01:11:20,026
things like getting sick,
maybe dying of melancholia,

1619
01:11:20,026 --> 01:11:24,114
and, uh... not running away.

1620
01:11:24,114 --> 01:11:26,408
Because in this country,

1621
01:11:26,408 --> 01:11:29,077
the moment a woman
decides to run away

1622
01:11:29,077 --> 01:11:31,162
is the moment her life
and her kids' lives

1623
01:11:31,162 --> 01:11:33,164
are in the most danger.

1624
01:11:40,422 --> 01:11:43,883
Uh, when my Grandma Betty died,
my uncle found $30,000

1625
01:11:43,883 --> 01:11:46,302
hidden underneath her mattress
with a note that said

1626
01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:48,346
to give $5,000 dollars
to each of her kids.

1627
01:11:48,346 --> 01:11:51,558
She had been saving
that money for 50 years.

1628
01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:06,823
I, uh, I actually, I took
George the Second's Friend

1629
01:12:06,823 --> 01:12:08,950
with me on this business trip
to L.A.

1630
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:10,994
He, uh, he loves the West Coast.

1631
01:12:10,994 --> 01:12:12,579
(laughter)

1632
01:12:12,579 --> 01:12:14,289
I had him in my bag
wrapped in a stocking cap,

1633
01:12:14,289 --> 01:12:16,249
and then it got cold
on the plane, so I took him out,

1634
01:12:16,249 --> 01:12:17,751
I put on a hat,

1635
01:12:17,751 --> 01:12:18,960
I wrapped him up
in an airplane blanket, uh,

1636
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,545
so I wouldn't be,
like, a middle-aged lady

1637
01:12:20,545 --> 01:12:23,465
with a stuffed monkey on my lap,
and then I was at baggage claim,

1638
01:12:23,465 --> 01:12:25,467
and I realized I had left

1639
01:12:25,467 --> 01:12:28,303
George the Second's Friend
on the plane.

1640
01:12:28,303 --> 01:12:31,139
And, uh, yeah, my reaction
was much bigger than that.

1641
01:12:31,139 --> 01:12:32,849
(laughter)

1642
01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:34,476
Actually, I don't even know
how to describe it to you

1643
01:12:34,476 --> 01:12:37,228
except to say that
if Meryl Streep and I had been

1644
01:12:37,228 --> 01:12:40,231
auditioning for that "dingo
ate my baby" movie together,

1645
01:12:40,231 --> 01:12:42,817
-I would have gotten that part.
-(laughter)

1646
01:12:42,817 --> 01:12:45,403
I was wailing. I was sobbing.

1647
01:12:45,403 --> 01:12:47,614
I was, I was doing
the Greek tragedy crying.

1648
01:12:47,614 --> 01:12:50,325
I ran up to the counter,
tears streaming down my face.

1649
01:12:50,325 --> 01:12:51,993
This woman took one look at me,
she was like,

1650
01:12:51,993 --> 01:12:53,495
"Oh, my God, are you okay?"

1651
01:12:53,495 --> 01:12:56,998
-And I was like, "No! No! No!
-(laughter)

1652
01:12:56,998 --> 01:12:59,375
I left something
very valuable on the plane!"

1653
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:02,212
And she was like, "What is it?!"

1654
01:13:02,212 --> 01:13:04,881
(laughter)

1655
01:13:04,881 --> 01:13:08,384
And I said,
"My child's favorite toy!"

1656
01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:10,553
-(laughter)
-It gets worse.

1657
01:13:10,553 --> 01:13:14,182
-"And my child is very sick!"
-(laughter, groaning)

1658
01:13:14,182 --> 01:13:17,852
No, it's so bad.
It's so hor-- It's horrible.

1659
01:13:17,852 --> 01:13:20,522
But she really
leapt into action.

1660
01:13:20,522 --> 01:13:21,981
She called up to the gate,
she was like,

1661
01:13:21,981 --> 01:13:24,317
"Get that monkey off the plane!"

1662
01:13:24,317 --> 01:13:26,152
(laughter, clapping)

1663
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:28,113
And then she swiped me
through security,

1664
01:13:28,113 --> 01:13:29,906
and I started running, racing,

1665
01:13:29,906 --> 01:13:32,867
running faster than
I've ever run in my entire life.

1666
01:13:32,867 --> 01:13:36,246
I-I ran past,
like, 14 Starbucks.

1667
01:13:36,246 --> 01:13:37,789
-(laughter)
-I got to the gate.

1668
01:13:37,789 --> 01:13:39,499
I can see
George the Second's Friend

1669
01:13:39,499 --> 01:13:41,376
just sitting by
this guy's terminal.

1670
01:13:41,376 --> 01:13:43,461
I ran up, tears still
streaming down my face.

1671
01:13:43,461 --> 01:13:45,255
This guy paid
no attention to me,

1672
01:13:45,255 --> 01:13:46,923
so I was just like, "Fuck it!"

1673
01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:49,050
I grabbed
George the Second's Friend,

1674
01:13:49,050 --> 01:13:52,720
I ran away from him, I collapsed
to the airport floor,

1675
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:57,517
and I just kept wailing
and wailing and wailing.

1676
01:13:57,517 --> 01:14:00,603
And I have no idea
what I was crying about.

1677
01:14:00,603 --> 01:14:04,190
I don't know if I was crying
for my Grandma Betty,

1678
01:14:04,190 --> 01:14:06,985
or-or because
of chemical depression,

1679
01:14:06,985 --> 01:14:10,280
or just because he is such
a cute little monkey,

1680
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,658
or maybe because
of centuries and centuries

1681
01:14:13,658 --> 01:14:15,827
of fucking inherited trauma,

1682
01:14:15,827 --> 01:14:20,748
or maybe, maybe it's
just the appropriate response

1683
01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:23,835
to everything right now!

1684
01:14:23,835 --> 01:14:25,837
(laughter, cheering, applause)

1685
01:14:28,631 --> 01:14:31,259
My, uh, my mom,

1686
01:14:31,259 --> 01:14:34,137
my mom says
when you are consumed,

1687
01:14:34,137 --> 01:14:36,848
when you are paralyzed
with rage and despair,

1688
01:14:36,848 --> 01:14:38,433
you have to think of a woman

1689
01:14:38,433 --> 01:14:40,310
running along a beach
with a dog.

1690
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:42,854
(laughter)

1691
01:14:42,854 --> 01:14:44,731
There's more.

1692
01:14:44,731 --> 01:14:48,318
She says if you watch the dog,
it keeps running back and forth

1693
01:14:48,318 --> 01:14:50,528
and back and forth,
so it seems like progress is

1694
01:14:50,528 --> 01:14:53,364
constantly being undone,
but if you watch the woman,

1695
01:14:53,364 --> 01:14:56,159
you can see that
she is moving steadily forward

1696
01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,661
and forward and forward.

1697
01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:02,624
I hope.

1698
01:15:05,418 --> 01:15:09,088
I, uh, I actually, I told my mom
about my abortion recently,

1699
01:15:09,088 --> 01:15:11,716
because I, uh, well, I had to
'cause I was gonna tell you all.

1700
01:15:11,716 --> 01:15:13,551
(laughter)

1701
01:15:13,551 --> 01:15:15,220
She was so blasé about it.

1702
01:15:15,220 --> 01:15:16,721
She was like, "Okay."

1703
01:15:16,721 --> 01:15:19,265
I said, "Mom, why did you
freak out back then?"

1704
01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:21,643
She said, "Well, I can be
relaxed about it now

1705
01:15:21,643 --> 01:15:24,270
because your life
turned out okay."

1706
01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:26,773
She wanted to know
if I was pissed off at her.

1707
01:15:26,773 --> 01:15:30,360
I was like, "No, because
my life turned out okay."

1708
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,362
(laughter)

1709
01:15:33,947 --> 01:15:35,949
I think there were
two mothers with me

1710
01:15:35,949 --> 01:15:38,034
in the car that day, too.

1711
01:15:38,034 --> 01:15:41,037
I think there's the first
mother, who's a feminist,

1712
01:15:41,037 --> 01:15:44,707
who made me do this contest
so I could go to college,

1713
01:15:44,707 --> 01:15:49,045
who, along with her sister,
ended the legacy of violent men

1714
01:15:49,045 --> 01:15:52,173
in our family by testifying.

1715
01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,133
And then there's
the second mother,

1716
01:15:54,133 --> 01:15:57,262
the mother who had been
terrorized as a child.

1717
01:16:00,598 --> 01:16:03,017
The mother whose first memory
at age three was seeing

1718
01:16:03,017 --> 01:16:04,686
her stepfather punch
my grandma and thinking,

1719
01:16:04,686 --> 01:16:06,479
"Oh, no, this is
what life is like."

1720
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,940
And it is what life is like.

1721
01:16:08,940 --> 01:16:11,192
The mother who had
inherited centuries

1722
01:16:11,192 --> 01:16:13,820
of belief
in her own worthlessness.

1723
01:16:15,738 --> 01:16:19,158
No, not belief--
not just belief.

1724
01:16:19,158 --> 01:16:21,869
Centuries of laws
that explicitly told her

1725
01:16:21,869 --> 01:16:23,871
she was worthless.

1726
01:16:25,957 --> 01:16:30,586
For me, though,
that first mother was enough.

1727
01:16:30,586 --> 01:16:33,172
She taught me
what my rights were.

1728
01:16:33,172 --> 01:16:35,466
I knew which laws
were there to protect me,

1729
01:16:35,466 --> 01:16:37,802
and I had laws to protect me
at that time.

1730
01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:39,512
I didn't need the second mother

1731
01:16:39,512 --> 01:16:40,888
to be there for me
in the moment,

1732
01:16:40,888 --> 01:16:43,558
because I had laws.

1733
01:16:48,896 --> 01:16:52,775
Which just makes me think
maybe it's not helpful

1734
01:16:52,775 --> 01:16:55,611
to think of the Constitution
as a crucible,

1735
01:16:55,611 --> 01:16:58,698
in which we're all
battling it out together,

1736
01:16:58,698 --> 01:17:01,159
in which, uh, in which
we go in front of a court

1737
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:04,954
of nine people to negotiate
for our basic human rights,

1738
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:09,417
which is what we have been
doing for 230 years.

1739
01:17:09,417 --> 01:17:13,629
Because if this is a battle,
or even a negotiation,

1740
01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:16,132
then the people
who have always been in power

1741
01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:19,135
in this country-- always
dominated, always oppressed--

1742
01:17:19,135 --> 01:17:21,054
men...

1743
01:17:22,930 --> 01:17:25,391
...white people...

1744
01:17:25,391 --> 01:17:28,311
are going to keep
dominating and oppressing.

1745
01:17:28,311 --> 01:17:31,230
Maybe, maybe we can think
of the Constitution as like

1746
01:17:31,230 --> 01:17:34,525
that first mother,
a Constitution that is obligated

1747
01:17:34,525 --> 01:17:37,320
to actively look out
for all of us.

1748
01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:41,449
There are so many countries

1749
01:17:41,449 --> 01:17:44,243
that have those kinds
of constitutions,

1750
01:17:44,243 --> 01:17:46,371
modern, positive rights
constitutions,

1751
01:17:46,371 --> 01:17:49,957
that actively
rectify inequality,

1752
01:17:49,957 --> 01:17:53,086
that have human rights
enshrined from the beginning.

1753
01:17:53,086 --> 01:17:56,339
179 constitutions have
explicit gender protections

1754
01:17:56,339 --> 01:18:00,510
written into them--
ours is not one of them.

1755
01:18:00,510 --> 01:18:05,681
Our Constitution is
really, really old.

1756
01:18:05,681 --> 01:18:07,683
(laughter)

1757
01:18:10,561 --> 01:18:13,398
Of course,
the problem with making

1758
01:18:13,398 --> 01:18:16,317
an all-new
positive rights constitution...

1759
01:18:17,777 --> 01:18:21,572
...with human rights
enshrined from the beginning

1760
01:18:21,572 --> 01:18:25,827
is, uh, we would still
have to trust the people

1761
01:18:25,827 --> 01:18:28,538
interpreting that document,
right?

1762
01:18:28,538 --> 01:18:32,917
We still have to trust
the people who are in charge.

1763
01:18:35,503 --> 01:18:37,338
JUSTICE GINSBURG (recorded):
And the excuse

1764
01:18:37,338 --> 01:18:41,342
for not hiring women
in the criminal division was

1765
01:18:41,342 --> 01:18:45,763
they have to deal with
all these tough types,

1766
01:18:45,763 --> 01:18:49,892
and women aren't up to that.

1767
01:18:49,892 --> 01:18:52,311
And I was amazed.

1768
01:18:52,311 --> 01:18:55,815
I said, "Have you seen
the lawyers at legal aid

1769
01:18:55,815 --> 01:18:58,401
"who are representing
these tough types?

1770
01:18:58,401 --> 01:19:00,027
They are women."

1771
01:19:00,027 --> 01:19:01,821
People ask me sometimes,

1772
01:19:01,821 --> 01:19:04,824
"When, when do you think
it will be enough?

1773
01:19:04,824 --> 01:19:10,246
When will... will there be
enough women on the court?"

1774
01:19:10,246 --> 01:19:15,001
And my answer is,
"When there are nine."

1775
01:19:15,001 --> 01:19:17,003
(laughter, cheering, applause)

1776
01:19:23,968 --> 01:19:27,972
I, uh... I loved this contest.

1777
01:19:27,972 --> 01:19:30,892
It made me believe people would
listen to me when I spoke.

1778
01:19:30,892 --> 01:19:33,436
Also I, uh, I had braces
and terrible acne.

1779
01:19:33,436 --> 01:19:35,771
It was nice to be valued
for my brain.

1780
01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:38,816
While I was making this,
I, uh, I met with young women

1781
01:19:38,816 --> 01:19:41,611
who are doing these kinds
of contests today.

1782
01:19:41,611 --> 01:19:43,613
I just, I wanted to hear
what they were thinking

1783
01:19:43,613 --> 01:19:46,073
about our country,
about our Constitution.

1784
01:19:46,073 --> 01:19:47,950
And one of these
brilliant young women

1785
01:19:47,950 --> 01:19:50,411
-has agreed to join us
here tonight. -Rosdely.

1786
01:19:50,411 --> 01:19:52,497
-(cheering, applause)
-Go.

1787
01:20:02,256 --> 01:20:03,799
Hi.

1788
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:05,718
My name is Rosdely Ciprian.

1789
01:20:05,718 --> 01:20:07,845
I'm a 14-year-old debater
from New York City,

1790
01:20:07,845 --> 01:20:09,722
and I've been involved
with parliamentary debate

1791
01:20:09,722 --> 01:20:11,724
since the second semester
of sixth grade.

1792
01:20:11,724 --> 01:20:15,269
I've argued topics such as
legalizing medical marijuana

1793
01:20:15,269 --> 01:20:16,979
and whether the United States
should have

1794
01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:19,815
more diplomatic engagement with
the People's Republic of China.

1795
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:21,817
Mr. Beattie is my debate coach.

1796
01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:23,945
He coaches to argue both sides
of a debate.

1797
01:20:23,945 --> 01:20:26,531
Which is why Heidi
invited me here tonight--

1798
01:20:26,531 --> 01:20:29,575
to dig deeper into a big
question about the Constitution:

1799
01:20:29,575 --> 01:20:32,578
Is it protecting us, or is it
the source of our problems?

1800
01:20:32,578 --> 01:20:34,789
Personally, I think
the answer is both.

1801
01:20:34,789 --> 01:20:36,624
But for the sake
of having a good debate,

1802
01:20:36,624 --> 01:20:38,960
we're each going to take
a different side here tonight.

1803
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,545
But before I can explain to you

1804
01:20:40,545 --> 01:20:42,380
the rules of
a parliamentary debate,

1805
01:20:42,380 --> 01:20:45,841
let me just say that the
Constitution is not a crucible.

1806
01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:48,761
(laughter)

1807
01:20:48,761 --> 01:20:51,138
At least that's not
how I like to think of it.

1808
01:20:51,138 --> 01:20:53,766
Why not just think of the
Constitution as a human being?

1809
01:20:53,766 --> 01:20:55,768
I mean, it was
made by human beings,

1810
01:20:55,768 --> 01:20:58,145
so it's not
a big stretch, right?

1811
01:20:58,145 --> 01:21:00,940
Are human beings perfect? No.

1812
01:21:00,940 --> 01:21:03,651
Are we capable
of perfection? No.

1813
01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:05,319
But this doesn't mean
we're not valuable.

1814
01:21:05,319 --> 01:21:07,989
We're always growing
and changing, learning.

1815
01:21:07,989 --> 01:21:09,824
My opponent brought up
the Ninth Amendment

1816
01:21:09,824 --> 01:21:13,494
in her prepared speech-- which
went way over time, by the way.

1817
01:21:13,494 --> 01:21:15,955
-(laughter) -Sure, the penumbra
metaphor is an interesting way

1818
01:21:15,955 --> 01:21:17,957
to understand
the Ninth Amendment,

1819
01:21:17,957 --> 01:21:19,917
and I'm not arguing against it.

1820
01:21:19,917 --> 01:21:22,295
But let me help you
understand it in another way.

1821
01:21:22,295 --> 01:21:25,298
Now, I don't have
any imaginary friends.

1822
01:21:25,298 --> 01:21:28,092
But I have invented a character
I like to play in rehearsal

1823
01:21:28,092 --> 01:21:29,510
named Boxellia.

1824
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:32,638
Boxellia is
a scrillion-year-old AI robot

1825
01:21:32,638 --> 01:21:34,056
who can tell the future.

1826
01:21:34,056 --> 01:21:35,975
She knows what you're gonna do
next summer,

1827
01:21:35,975 --> 01:21:37,810
and she knows
what life on Earth will be like

1828
01:21:37,810 --> 01:21:39,478
a thousand years from now.

1829
01:21:39,478 --> 01:21:41,814
To me, the Ninth Amendment
is like Boxellia;

1830
01:21:41,814 --> 01:21:43,858
she holds the memory
of our future.

1831
01:21:43,858 --> 01:21:45,151
And too bad for us,

1832
01:21:45,151 --> 01:21:47,778
we won't know what that is
until we get there.

1833
01:21:47,778 --> 01:21:50,323
-Okay, let's start this debate.
-All right, let's do it!

1834
01:21:50,323 --> 01:21:53,117
Uh, okay, for the past
two years, uh, Rosdely and I

1835
01:21:53,117 --> 01:21:55,786
have been doing parliamentary
style debate together-- parli.

1836
01:21:55,786 --> 01:21:58,289
Uh, this is a style that did not
exist when I was in high school.

1837
01:21:58,289 --> 01:22:00,708
And, like she said, we're
gonna do a real-live debate

1838
01:22:00,708 --> 01:22:03,169
-for you right here, right now.
-Yes, and our topic is:

1839
01:22:03,169 --> 01:22:05,921
Should we abolish
the United States Constitution?

1840
01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:07,548
Uh, and there are
some amazing folks

1841
01:22:07,548 --> 01:22:09,050
passing out
pocket Constitutions,

1842
01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:12,136
-so you can follow along,
check our work. -(laughter)

1843
01:22:12,136 --> 01:22:13,387
ROSDELY: Typically,
in a parliamentary debate,

1844
01:22:13,387 --> 01:22:14,972
there are three people
on a team,

1845
01:22:14,972 --> 01:22:16,974
but we're going to be doing this
one-on-one tonight.

1846
01:22:16,974 --> 01:22:19,101
This is a style I like to call
"Iron Woman."

1847
01:22:19,101 --> 01:22:21,646
And usually in a debate,
we use a form called "PO-POOP,"

1848
01:22:21,646 --> 01:22:23,689
which is "Proposition,
Opposition, Proposition,

1849
01:22:23,689 --> 01:22:25,650
Opposition, Opposition,
Proposition,"

1850
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:28,819
but we've invented another style
we like to call "POPOPO,"

1851
01:22:28,819 --> 01:22:30,738
which is "Proposition,
Opposition, Proposition,

1852
01:22:30,738 --> 01:22:32,573
Opposition,
Proposition, Opposition."

1853
01:22:32,573 --> 01:22:34,408
-(laughter)
-MIKE: The debaters

1854
01:22:34,408 --> 01:22:36,243
have been training me
to be the moderator,

1855
01:22:36,243 --> 01:22:39,455
and my most important duty
is to flip a coin to determine

1856
01:22:39,455 --> 01:22:42,083
which side of the argument
the debaters are gonna take.

1857
01:22:42,083 --> 01:22:44,001
Rosdely, call it in the air.

1858
01:22:44,001 --> 01:22:45,544
-T-Tails.
-(Heidi laughs)

1859
01:22:45,544 --> 01:22:47,171
-Yeah.
-I guess that means

1860
01:22:47,171 --> 01:22:48,923
-you're heads, Heidi.
It's heads. -I'm heads.

1861
01:22:48,923 --> 01:22:50,675
-Heads? Okay.
-Yeah.

1862
01:22:50,675 --> 01:22:51,801
Uh, I want opposition, keep.

1863
01:22:51,801 --> 01:22:53,010
Okay, I'll take
proposition, abolish.

1864
01:22:53,010 --> 01:22:56,013
Okay, debaters, you have
90 seconds to prepare,

1865
01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:58,683
starting now.

1866
01:22:58,683 --> 01:23:00,518
Okay, Rosdely's
also been telling me

1867
01:23:00,518 --> 01:23:04,355
that in parliamentary debate,
audience participation

1868
01:23:04,355 --> 01:23:07,817
plays a huge role
in determining the outcome.

1869
01:23:07,817 --> 01:23:09,944
That means that
if one of our debaters

1870
01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:12,071
says something
that really lands with you--

1871
01:23:12,071 --> 01:23:15,950
positively or negatively--
you got to make some noise.

1872
01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:18,703
If Rosdely or Heidi says
something that you really love,

1873
01:23:18,703 --> 01:23:20,162
what are you gonna do?

1874
01:23:20,162 --> 01:23:22,540
(cheering, whooping)

1875
01:23:22,540 --> 01:23:24,542
And if they say something
you really hate,

1876
01:23:24,542 --> 01:23:26,085
what are you gonna do?

1877
01:23:26,085 --> 01:23:27,378
(booing, hissing)

1878
01:23:27,378 --> 01:23:30,256
And if upstairs hates it
but downstairs loves it,

1879
01:23:30,256 --> 01:23:31,924
what are you gonna do?

1880
01:23:31,924 --> 01:23:34,427
(cheering, booing)

1881
01:23:34,427 --> 01:23:36,929
Yeah, this feels okay.
I have, I have faith in you.

1882
01:23:36,929 --> 01:23:38,055
(laughter)

1883
01:23:40,141 --> 01:23:41,642
-(bell dings)
-Ready?

1884
01:23:41,642 --> 01:23:44,603
-Uh, yes.
-Uh... yes.

1885
01:23:44,603 --> 01:23:47,398
MIKE: Will proposition
please approach.

1886
01:23:47,398 --> 01:23:50,025
You have two minutes,
starting now.

1887
01:23:50,025 --> 01:23:52,361
Good evening, judges.
My name is Rosdely Ciprian,

1888
01:23:52,361 --> 01:23:54,363
and I'm here
to represent the proposition:

1889
01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:57,491
"This house ought to abolish
the United States Constitution."

1890
01:23:57,491 --> 01:23:59,493
(whooping, applause)

1891
01:23:59,493 --> 01:24:01,078
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1892
01:24:01,078 --> 01:24:03,080
Will everyone
please raise your hand?

1893
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,207
(laughter)

1894
01:24:05,207 --> 01:24:07,126
Now, if you're a white man
who owns property,

1895
01:24:07,126 --> 01:24:08,627
please put your hands down.

1896
01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:11,839
Under the original terms
of the Constitution,

1897
01:24:11,839 --> 01:24:15,301
those of you with your hands up
are not considered citizens.

1898
01:24:15,301 --> 01:24:17,011
Let me ask you a question.

1899
01:24:17,011 --> 01:24:19,472
How would you feel if these
white men went into another room

1900
01:24:19,472 --> 01:24:21,849
and made all the rules
for the rest of us?

1901
01:24:21,849 --> 01:24:23,642
(booing, hissing)

1902
01:24:23,642 --> 01:24:26,061
That's what I thought. Let me
ask you a second question.

1903
01:24:26,061 --> 01:24:28,105
How many rich, white men
who own property

1904
01:24:28,105 --> 01:24:30,399
are still in control
of our government today?

1905
01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:32,568
-(jeering, shouting)
-I know, right?

1906
01:24:32,568 --> 01:24:34,820
So why don't you look through
your pocket Constitutions

1907
01:24:34,820 --> 01:24:36,614
and see where
people like us belong.

1908
01:24:36,614 --> 01:24:37,698
I am right-- oh--

1909
01:24:37,698 --> 01:24:39,533
-right here on page 34...
-Point of order!

1910
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:41,076
-We can't use props
in the debate! -MIKE: Noted!

1911
01:24:41,076 --> 01:24:42,244
-ROSDELY: Who said that?
Who said that? -Thank you.

1912
01:24:42,244 --> 01:24:43,245
You taught me that.
You taught me that.

1913
01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:45,289
-Did I? Did I?
-(laughter)

1914
01:24:45,289 --> 01:24:47,416
Moving on, moving on.
My second point, judges,

1915
01:24:47,416 --> 01:24:49,418
is that the dead
should not govern the living.

1916
01:24:49,418 --> 01:24:51,128
Thomas Jefferson himself said

1917
01:24:51,128 --> 01:24:53,172
that we should draft
a new constitution

1918
01:24:53,172 --> 01:24:54,882
for every generation.

1919
01:24:54,882 --> 01:24:56,592
-The framers...
-(whooping, applause)

1920
01:24:56,592 --> 01:24:59,637
The framers have been in
their graves for over 200 years.

1921
01:24:59,637 --> 01:25:02,056
They lived in a world
without toothbrushes, deodorant

1922
01:25:02,056 --> 01:25:04,016
and toilet paper.

1923
01:25:04,016 --> 01:25:05,935
(laughter)

1924
01:25:05,935 --> 01:25:07,394
The great Benjamin Franklin

1925
01:25:07,394 --> 01:25:09,855
didn't even take a bath in
fresh water, but instead he took

1926
01:25:09,855 --> 01:25:11,941
something called an "air bath,"
where he would

1927
01:25:11,941 --> 01:25:14,485
walk around naked, thinking
that the air would bathe him.

1928
01:25:14,485 --> 01:25:15,945
(laughter, groaning)

1929
01:25:15,945 --> 01:25:17,947
And our very own
George Washington died

1930
01:25:17,947 --> 01:25:19,865
because he had a cold
and decided to treat it

1931
01:25:19,865 --> 01:25:21,325
with bloodletting.

1932
01:25:21,325 --> 01:25:24,161
So why, why are we listening
to Bloodletting Washington

1933
01:25:24,161 --> 01:25:26,121
and Air Bath Franklin?!

1934
01:25:26,121 --> 01:25:28,332
(laughter, cheering)

1935
01:25:28,332 --> 01:25:31,710
Our Constitution is like
the Horcrux in Harry Potter.

1936
01:25:31,710 --> 01:25:33,671
It is a piece of
our founding fathers' soul

1937
01:25:33,671 --> 01:25:35,422
that is still
somehow still alive,

1938
01:25:35,422 --> 01:25:36,799
ruling over the rest of us.

1939
01:25:36,799 --> 01:25:38,634
Let me explain.
In Harry Potter,

1940
01:25:38,634 --> 01:25:40,928
a Horcrux is an object
in which a dark wizard

1941
01:25:40,928 --> 01:25:43,055
has hidden a fragment
of their soul

1942
01:25:43,055 --> 01:25:45,224
for the purpose
of gaining immortality.

1943
01:25:45,224 --> 01:25:47,476
It is time
to destroy the Horcrux

1944
01:25:47,476 --> 01:25:50,187
so that we can finally move on
from the sins of our past

1945
01:25:50,187 --> 01:25:52,523
and finally write a document
that is truly democratic

1946
01:25:52,523 --> 01:25:54,692
-(bell dings)
-and fully alive.

1947
01:25:54,692 --> 01:25:56,694
-Thank you.
-(cheering, whooping)

1948
01:26:01,532 --> 01:26:04,535
Judges, uh, I am the first
opposition speaker to the motion

1949
01:26:04,535 --> 01:26:06,996
that we should abolish
the United States Constitution.

1950
01:26:06,996 --> 01:26:10,124
My opponent, uh,
just quoted Thomas Jefferson

1951
01:26:10,124 --> 01:26:12,543
and said that the dead
should not govern the living.

1952
01:26:12,543 --> 01:26:14,879
However, Thomas Jefferson
himself is dead,

1953
01:26:14,879 --> 01:26:17,256
so why is she listening to him?!

1954
01:26:17,256 --> 01:26:18,674
(laughter, whooping)

1955
01:26:18,674 --> 01:26:20,384
She also said she wants

1956
01:26:20,384 --> 01:26:21,552
to make
a brand-new Constitution,

1957
01:26:21,552 --> 01:26:23,053
but let me ask you this.

1958
01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:26,223
Who gets to make this new,
perfect, utopian Constitution?

1959
01:26:26,223 --> 01:26:29,101
Will those of us who had
our hands raised get to make it?

1960
01:26:29,101 --> 01:26:30,436
I don't think so.

1961
01:26:30,436 --> 01:26:32,354
This new Constitution
will be made

1962
01:26:32,354 --> 01:26:34,356
by politicians,
and since Congress

1963
01:26:34,356 --> 01:26:36,317
is still made up
of mostly old white men,

1964
01:26:36,317 --> 01:26:39,486
why does she think they will
write a better Constitution?!

1965
01:26:39,486 --> 01:26:41,030
(cheering)

1966
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:42,531
Finally, judges,

1967
01:26:42,531 --> 01:26:44,533
I do not know what
that Harry Potter thing is,

1968
01:26:44,533 --> 01:26:45,826
so I will not debate it.

1969
01:26:45,826 --> 01:26:48,078
(laughter)

1970
01:26:48,078 --> 01:26:49,580
Judges...

1971
01:26:49,580 --> 01:26:53,167
we have the oldest
active, living constitution

1972
01:26:53,167 --> 01:26:54,710
in the world.

1973
01:26:54,710 --> 01:26:56,629
My opponent, who...
who is very young,

1974
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:58,088
-(booing)
-wants you to think

1975
01:26:58,088 --> 01:27:00,841
that this is a bad thing,
but the reason our Constitution

1976
01:27:00,841 --> 01:27:03,093
has lasted so long
is because it contains

1977
01:27:03,093 --> 01:27:06,096
the tools of its own correction,
and it also contains

1978
01:27:06,096 --> 01:27:09,808
the tools we need
to free ourselves from tyranny.

1979
01:27:09,808 --> 01:27:12,811
-(cheering) -And we need
these tools right now!

1980
01:27:12,811 --> 01:27:14,813
-(scattered booing)
-It is undeniable

1981
01:27:14,813 --> 01:27:17,691
that America is more equal,
more democratic than it was

1982
01:27:17,691 --> 01:27:18,692
230 years ago.

1983
01:27:18,692 --> 01:27:19,818
In fact, you know what?

1984
01:27:19,818 --> 01:27:22,279
It is because of
this Constitution,

1985
01:27:22,279 --> 01:27:25,908
not in spite of it, that she
and I can stand up here today

1986
01:27:25,908 --> 01:27:29,078
-and insist on a better future
for our country! -(bell dings)

1987
01:27:29,078 --> 01:27:31,121
(cheering, applause)

1988
01:27:31,121 --> 01:27:33,457
MIKE: Abolish, you have
one minute for rebuttal.

1989
01:27:33,457 --> 01:27:36,627
Judges, my opponent's rebuttal
that Thomas Jefferson is dead,

1990
01:27:36,627 --> 01:27:38,671
so why should we listen to him,
I guess she can have it.

1991
01:27:38,671 --> 01:27:40,005
-I don't need it.
-(laughter)

1992
01:27:40,005 --> 01:27:41,882
I will grant
that I do not yet have a plan

1993
01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:43,884
for who will create
this new document,

1994
01:27:43,884 --> 01:27:47,179
but I do know that it'll not be
fully created by white men.

1995
01:27:47,179 --> 01:27:48,847
-(whooping, applause)
-And apparently...

1996
01:27:48,847 --> 01:27:51,684
apparently, my opponent--
who is much older--

1997
01:27:51,684 --> 01:27:54,728
isn't aware about the recent
changes in our government.

1998
01:27:54,728 --> 01:27:57,982
Congress is more diverse
than it has ever been,

1999
01:27:57,982 --> 01:28:00,359
-(cheering)
-and I have-- yes!

2000
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:02,152
Yes! Yes, yes, yes!

2001
01:28:02,152 --> 01:28:04,571
And I have faith that people
like me will be involved

2002
01:28:04,571 --> 01:28:06,240
in this redesigning process,

2003
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,117
whether these men
like it or not.

2004
01:28:08,117 --> 01:28:10,995
(cheering, whooping)

2005
01:28:10,995 --> 01:28:13,288
We have all these amendments
that are supposed to correct

2006
01:28:13,288 --> 01:28:14,707
the wrongs of our history.

2007
01:28:14,707 --> 01:28:16,542
However, let's look
at the 13th Amendment.

2008
01:28:16,542 --> 01:28:17,918
It abolished slavery,

2009
01:28:17,918 --> 01:28:20,671
only for it to be reimagined
as a prison industry

2010
01:28:20,671 --> 01:28:23,507
that is a new systemic form
of oppression.

2011
01:28:23,507 --> 01:28:26,343
(cheering, applause)

2012
01:28:26,343 --> 01:28:29,388
It is something that I consider
to be an illusion of progress.

2013
01:28:29,388 --> 01:28:31,598
And how do you expect
to make any real progress

2014
01:28:31,598 --> 01:28:34,727
when the electoral college
is a hot mess...

2015
01:28:34,727 --> 01:28:36,979
(cheering, applause)

2016
01:28:36,979 --> 01:28:39,398
...two of our...
two of our last three presidents

2017
01:28:39,398 --> 01:28:41,025
did not win the popular vote,

2018
01:28:41,025 --> 01:28:43,944
different branches of government
are overstepping their powers,

2019
01:28:43,944 --> 01:28:46,447
-voter suppression is rampant...
-(bell dings, cheering)

2020
01:28:46,447 --> 01:28:50,117
and nine people-- nine people--
have the disproportionate power

2021
01:28:50,117 --> 01:28:52,453
over our basic human rights
and communities of color, women,

2022
01:28:52,453 --> 01:28:54,955
-LGBTQIA folx and immigrants
-(bell dinging repeatedly)

2023
01:28:54,955 --> 01:28:58,083
have their rights violated
on a daily basis. Thank you.

2024
01:28:58,083 --> 01:29:00,335
(cheering, applause)

2025
01:29:01,378 --> 01:29:04,089
MIKE:
Keep, you have 30 seconds

2026
01:29:04,089 --> 01:29:06,425
-to cross-examine.
-Our document was designed

2027
01:29:06,425 --> 01:29:08,927
to make the changes
that you want to make.

2028
01:29:08,927 --> 01:29:11,597
So why are you willing to put
our entire democracy at risk

2029
01:29:11,597 --> 01:29:14,266
instead of just passing
an amendment?

2030
01:29:14,266 --> 01:29:16,560
Well, we haven't passed
an amendment in my lifetime.

2031
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,687
We've been trying to pass
the Equal Rights Amendment

2032
01:29:18,687 --> 01:29:20,898
for the past hundred years;
what makes you think

2033
01:29:20,898 --> 01:29:23,317
-we're gonna pass it now?
-Okay. Fair enough.

2034
01:29:23,317 --> 01:29:25,903
We're actually one state away
from ratification,

2035
01:29:25,903 --> 01:29:28,113
-so you want to give up now?
-Well, it's not giving up

2036
01:29:28,113 --> 01:29:29,865
if we're being set up to fail.

2037
01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:31,283
-(applause)
-Fine, let me ask you this.

2038
01:29:31,283 --> 01:29:33,202
Let's say we give you
this new Constitution.

2039
01:29:33,202 --> 01:29:34,161
-Okay.
-(laughter)

2040
01:29:34,161 --> 01:29:36,163
What is to stop

2041
01:29:36,163 --> 01:29:39,583
private lobbying organizations,
corporations,

2042
01:29:39,583 --> 01:29:41,251
like, say, the NRA,
from influencing

2043
01:29:41,251 --> 01:29:44,004
-the making of this new document
with their money? -(cheering)

2044
01:29:44,004 --> 01:29:46,006
Well, this is why we need
a new Constitution

2045
01:29:46,006 --> 01:29:47,800
to stop these
big lobbying corporations

2046
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,885
from using their money
to tilt the boat

2047
01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:51,512
that is our laws.

2048
01:29:51,512 --> 01:29:53,263
-(cheering)
-Okay, but how?

2049
01:29:53,263 --> 01:29:54,807
How are you
gonna make that happen?

2050
01:29:54,807 --> 01:29:56,725
-By making a new Constitution.
-(bell dings)

2051
01:29:56,725 --> 01:29:58,894
-MIKE: Time!
-(whooping, laughter)

2052
01:29:58,894 --> 01:30:01,480
Keep, you have one minute
for rebuttal.

2053
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:03,524
-Judges!
-(laughter)

2054
01:30:03,524 --> 01:30:05,651
I agree that
some of the progress,

2055
01:30:05,651 --> 01:30:09,238
uh, that has been made
in this country is an illusion.

2056
01:30:09,238 --> 01:30:11,073
However, if we throw out
this Constitution,

2057
01:30:11,073 --> 01:30:12,991
we throw away real progress

2058
01:30:12,991 --> 01:30:15,536
that people fought and died
to achieve.

2059
01:30:15,536 --> 01:30:17,204
-(cheering, whistling)
-(scattered booing)

2060
01:30:17,204 --> 01:30:19,039
If we get rid of
this Constitution tomorrow,

2061
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:20,374
here is what would happen.

2062
01:30:20,374 --> 01:30:23,127
Same-sex marriage
would be illegal in 14 states.

2063
01:30:23,127 --> 01:30:25,546
-(jeering) -Abortion would be
illegal in 30 states.

2064
01:30:25,546 --> 01:30:28,423
-(jeering) -Segregation
would technically be legal

2065
01:30:28,423 --> 01:30:30,092
in 32 states.

2066
01:30:30,092 --> 01:30:32,302
-(booing, jeering)
-Judges, the only thing

2067
01:30:32,302 --> 01:30:37,432
protecting most of us right now
is actually this Constitution.

2068
01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:39,434
(cheering, applause)

2069
01:30:39,434 --> 01:30:41,728
And the only thing, the only
thing holding us together

2070
01:30:41,728 --> 01:30:44,189
at a very divided time
is a collective faith

2071
01:30:44,189 --> 01:30:45,607
in this document.

2072
01:30:45,607 --> 01:30:47,943
Yes, you and I might
interpret it differently,

2073
01:30:47,943 --> 01:30:50,821
but without it,
we risk complete collapse.

2074
01:30:50,821 --> 01:30:53,824
Judges, Abraham Lincoln said

2075
01:30:53,824 --> 01:30:56,118
we should not throw out
the Constitution,

2076
01:30:56,118 --> 01:30:58,370
but to throw out the men
who abuse it!

2077
01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:59,997
-(bell dings)
-Thank you!

2078
01:30:59,997 --> 01:31:01,832
-(cheering, applause)
-MIKE: Abolish,

2079
01:31:01,832 --> 01:31:05,127
you have 30 seconds
to cross-examine.

2080
01:31:05,127 --> 01:31:07,671
Would you agree that the
Supreme Court could roll back

2081
01:31:07,671 --> 01:31:09,298
most of the rights
you just listed

2082
01:31:09,298 --> 01:31:11,049
even if we keep
this Constitution?

2083
01:31:11,049 --> 01:31:13,468
-Yes, I absolutely agree
with you. -Oh, okay.

2084
01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:16,263
That is, that is why I think
we have to do the-the--

2085
01:31:16,263 --> 01:31:18,307
That's why I don't think
that our basic human rights

2086
01:31:18,307 --> 01:31:21,059
can be left up to the whims
of a partisan court.

2087
01:31:21,059 --> 01:31:22,269
It's why I think we have to do

2088
01:31:22,269 --> 01:31:24,104
the hard work
of passing amendments,

2089
01:31:24,104 --> 01:31:26,523
even if they don't always work,
even if it takes time.

2090
01:31:26,523 --> 01:31:28,233
We don't have time.
How long is it gonna take?

2091
01:31:28,233 --> 01:31:29,443
How long is it gonna take

2092
01:31:29,443 --> 01:31:30,819
to write a climate change
amendment?

2093
01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:34,031
-At this rate, we'll be extinct!
-(cheering, applause)

2094
01:31:34,031 --> 01:31:35,949
I-I hear you, but I don't think
it's gonna take longer

2095
01:31:35,949 --> 01:31:37,743
to-to write that amendment
than it will to write

2096
01:31:37,743 --> 01:31:39,661
-a whole new Constitution.
-Okay.

2097
01:31:39,661 --> 01:31:43,957
Out of 4,500 words and 27
amendments in the Constitution,

2098
01:31:43,957 --> 01:31:45,792
is the word "women"
even mentioned once?

2099
01:31:45,792 --> 01:31:46,793
-(bell dings)
-MIKE: Time!

2100
01:31:46,793 --> 01:31:49,046
-No, no, but I...
-(laughter)

2101
01:31:49,046 --> 01:31:51,173
Each side will have
one minute to conclude,

2102
01:31:51,173 --> 01:31:52,758
starting with abolish.

2103
01:31:55,219 --> 01:31:57,512
Being a young girl
in modern America,

2104
01:31:57,512 --> 01:32:00,182
I never really thought about
the Constitution that deeply.

2105
01:32:00,182 --> 01:32:02,017
I had other things
to think about:

2106
01:32:02,017 --> 01:32:05,145
friends, conspiracy theories,
food and Netflix.

2107
01:32:05,145 --> 01:32:06,480
(laughter)

2108
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,649
I now realize
that the Constitution's harms

2109
01:32:08,649 --> 01:32:10,359
outweigh its good,
and this is the reason

2110
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:12,110
why we need to get rid of it.

2111
01:32:12,110 --> 01:32:16,156
The Constitution was a radical,
upstart, visionary document

2112
01:32:16,156 --> 01:32:17,783
created by passionate people

2113
01:32:17,783 --> 01:32:19,910
like James Madison
and Gouverneur Morris,

2114
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:22,287
who were trying to envision
a new-- google him--

2115
01:32:22,287 --> 01:32:24,623
-who were trying to envision...
-(laughter)

2116
01:32:24,623 --> 01:32:26,625
who were trying to envision
a new beginning

2117
01:32:26,625 --> 01:32:28,418
and a framework
for making change.

2118
01:32:28,418 --> 01:32:31,755
But today it is being used by a
small segment of the population

2119
01:32:31,755 --> 01:32:34,299
as a conservative force
to prevent change.

2120
01:32:34,299 --> 01:32:36,051
The farther we get
from its inception,

2121
01:32:36,051 --> 01:32:37,928
the less it speaks
to who we are now.

2122
01:32:37,928 --> 01:32:40,055
This document is old
and arthritic.

2123
01:32:40,055 --> 01:32:42,683
I am one of this generation's
founding daughters

2124
01:32:42,683 --> 01:32:46,019
telling you want I want
for the rest of my life.

2125
01:32:46,019 --> 01:32:48,021
(cheering, applause)

2126
01:32:50,816 --> 01:32:53,235
I want a document that
takes action on climate change,

2127
01:32:53,235 --> 01:32:55,570
that believes health care
is a human right,

2128
01:32:55,570 --> 01:32:57,698
-that protects gender equality
-(cheering, applause)

2129
01:32:57,698 --> 01:33:00,909
and says that education
is a fundamental pillar

2130
01:33:00,909 --> 01:33:02,953
for our society.

2131
01:33:02,953 --> 01:33:06,248
(cheering, applause)

2132
01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,501
So join me, join me
in making a new document

2133
01:33:09,501 --> 01:33:11,503
-that protects us all.
-(bell dings)

2134
01:33:11,503 --> 01:33:13,755
-Thank you.
-(cheering, applause)

2135
01:33:18,427 --> 01:33:21,722
Judges, the truth is I totally
agree with my opponent.

2136
01:33:21,722 --> 01:33:24,057
-(laughter)
-I believe

2137
01:33:24,057 --> 01:33:25,600
that to have
a neutral Constitution,

2138
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,602
a negative rights Constitution,

2139
01:33:27,602 --> 01:33:29,187
means that we have
a Constitution

2140
01:33:29,187 --> 01:33:31,982
that simply perpetuates
the status quo,

2141
01:33:31,982 --> 01:33:36,862
which means that it perpetuates
white supremacy and misogyny

2142
01:33:36,862 --> 01:33:39,031
-and violence.
-(cheering, applause)

2143
01:33:39,031 --> 01:33:41,658
I wish we could
get rid of this document

2144
01:33:41,658 --> 01:33:43,577
and make
a brand-new Constitution

2145
01:33:43,577 --> 01:33:45,579
exactly like the one
she describes.

2146
01:33:45,579 --> 01:33:48,165
I just, I do not believe
that there is a way to do this

2147
01:33:48,165 --> 01:33:49,791
without putting
the most vulnerable people

2148
01:33:49,791 --> 01:33:52,169
in this country in danger.

2149
01:33:52,169 --> 01:33:54,671
-(cheering, applause)
-I also...

2150
01:33:54,671 --> 01:33:56,840
I also don't think democracy
is something that just happens

2151
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,469
to us because we magically
change a piece of paper.

2152
01:34:00,469 --> 01:34:04,097
Democracy is something
that we have to make happen,

2153
01:34:04,097 --> 01:34:05,891
that we have to fight for,

2154
01:34:05,891 --> 01:34:09,603
that we have to enact
every single day!

2155
01:34:09,603 --> 01:34:14,024
Judges, the great civil rights
activist Diane Nash said,

2156
01:34:14,024 --> 01:34:16,860
"Freedom is, by definition,
people realizing

2157
01:34:16,860 --> 01:34:18,612
they are their own leaders."

2158
01:34:18,612 --> 01:34:21,448
So, you know what? Let's pass
a climate change amendment.

2159
01:34:21,448 --> 01:34:24,910
Let's pass
the Equal Rights Amendment!

2160
01:34:24,910 --> 01:34:26,661
-(cheering, applause)
-Or you know what?

2161
01:34:26,661 --> 01:34:29,623
Better yet, let's run
for Congress ourselves!

2162
01:34:29,623 --> 01:34:31,666
Rosdely Ciprian, I am ready

2163
01:34:31,666 --> 01:34:34,461
to start knocking
on doors for you!

2164
01:34:34,461 --> 01:34:36,338
-Pandering!
-That...

2165
01:34:36,338 --> 01:34:37,964
(laughter)

2166
01:34:40,008 --> 01:34:41,676
Fine, you know what?
I am pandering,

2167
01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:43,178
-but I also mean it!
-(bell dings)

2168
01:34:43,178 --> 01:34:45,806
-Thank you! Thank you so much.
-(cheering, applause)

2169
01:34:49,226 --> 01:34:51,228
(cheering continues)

2170
01:34:53,855 --> 01:34:58,568
Okay, so... it is time
to choose the judge.

2171
01:34:58,568 --> 01:35:00,779
Rosdely will be choosing
our judge.

2172
01:35:00,779 --> 01:35:02,197
(clears throat)
Let's see.

2173
01:35:03,907 --> 01:35:07,327
I see people looking away,
which is how democracy dies.

2174
01:35:07,327 --> 01:35:09,621
-(laughter)
-ROSDELY: Um...

2175
01:35:09,621 --> 01:35:11,998
-Would you like to be our judge?
-WOMAN: Me?

2176
01:35:11,998 --> 01:35:14,709
-Yes.
-Uh... Uh, s...

2177
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:17,045
-(laughter)
-Sure.

2178
01:35:17,045 --> 01:35:19,089
-Okay, what is your name?
-I'm, uh--

2179
01:35:19,089 --> 01:35:21,550
-My-my name's Maddie.
-Where are you from?

2180
01:35:21,550 --> 01:35:23,760
I'm from Berkeley, California,
but I live in New York now.

2181
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,388
-Oh.
-Oh, amazing. All right.

2182
01:35:26,388 --> 01:35:28,432
Um, Maddie, do you mind, uh,
do you mind standing up for us?

2183
01:35:28,432 --> 01:35:30,100
Do you mind actually
walking up to the front

2184
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,060
-of the stage for us? All right.
-Oh, s-sure.

2185
01:35:32,060 --> 01:35:33,687
-Um...
-(cheering, applause)

2186
01:35:33,687 --> 01:35:36,064
-Park yourself right here, yeah.
Very nice. -All right. Um...

2187
01:35:36,064 --> 01:35:38,775
Maddie, as you know, you have a
very important decision to make,

2188
01:35:38,775 --> 01:35:42,320
uh, to keep or abolish
the United States Constitution.

2189
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:43,864
(laughter)

2190
01:35:43,864 --> 01:35:45,991
Uh, we would love for you to
make your decision in silence.

2191
01:35:45,991 --> 01:35:47,367
Don't tell us,
and once you know,

2192
01:35:47,367 --> 01:35:48,827
open the corresponding envelope

2193
01:35:48,827 --> 01:35:51,371
and read the official language
out loud to the people.

2194
01:35:51,371 --> 01:35:52,914
Uh, that way, it's legal.

2195
01:35:52,914 --> 01:35:54,583
-(laughter)
-Uh, we'll be over here,

2196
01:35:54,583 --> 01:35:56,418
so we can't see
what you're deciding.

2197
01:35:56,418 --> 01:35:58,503
(laughter)

2198
01:35:58,503 --> 01:36:00,964
MADDIE:
Okay. I, Madeline,

2199
01:36:00,964 --> 01:36:02,757
on behalf of the audience

2200
01:36:02,757 --> 01:36:05,302
of What the Constitution
Means to Me,

2201
01:36:05,302 --> 01:36:08,305
do hereby vote to abolish

2202
01:36:08,305 --> 01:36:11,558
-the Constitution.
-Yay! -(cheering, booing)

2203
01:36:11,558 --> 01:36:14,269
Uh, all right, no.
Thank you so much.

2204
01:36:14,269 --> 01:36:16,229
I guess, uh,
since you voted to abolish,

2205
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:18,356
uh, I guess you can keep
your pocket Constitutions

2206
01:36:18,356 --> 01:36:20,233
so you have something to read
in your bunkers.

2207
01:36:20,233 --> 01:36:21,443
(laughter)

2208
01:36:21,443 --> 01:36:23,737
Uh, we are at the end
of our evening,

2209
01:36:23,737 --> 01:36:25,947
uh, but Rosdely and I...

2210
01:36:25,947 --> 01:36:28,033
Before we go home, Heidi and I

2211
01:36:28,033 --> 01:36:29,826
like to ask each other
a couple questions,

2212
01:36:29,826 --> 01:36:31,828
get to know each other
better as people.

2213
01:36:31,828 --> 01:36:34,039
And these questions were left
by last night's audience,

2214
01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:36,750
so feel free to leave your own
questions on the way out.

2215
01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:39,294
-Um, Terri?
-TERRI: Yes?

2216
01:36:39,294 --> 01:36:41,129
Will you please dim the lights?

2217
01:36:41,129 --> 01:36:42,964
Absolutely. Here you go.

2218
01:36:48,303 --> 01:36:51,056
(laughter)

2219
01:36:51,056 --> 01:36:52,641
Okay.

2220
01:36:52,641 --> 01:36:54,643
-(grunts)
-(quietly): Sorry.

2221
01:36:57,729 --> 01:37:01,775
Rosdely, what smell
reminds you most of home?

2222
01:37:01,775 --> 01:37:03,735
-Home?
-(soft laughter)

2223
01:37:05,487 --> 01:37:08,573
Probably, 'cause of
my Dominican culture,

2224
01:37:08,573 --> 01:37:11,201
mangú, salami, fried eggs,

2225
01:37:11,201 --> 01:37:14,079
which is basically
smashed plantains,

2226
01:37:14,079 --> 01:37:17,958
fried sausage
and, like, this orange juice

2227
01:37:17,958 --> 01:37:19,918
mixed with milk drink.

2228
01:37:19,918 --> 01:37:21,586
That reminds me of home.

2229
01:37:21,586 --> 01:37:24,089
-HEIDI: I want to eat all that
right now. -Yeah, so do I.

2230
01:37:24,089 --> 01:37:26,383
-All right. (laughs)
-(laughter)

2231
01:37:26,383 --> 01:37:29,553
What is the worst fashion trend
from your childhood?

2232
01:37:29,553 --> 01:37:30,804
(laughter)

2233
01:37:30,804 --> 01:37:33,223
(inhales sharply)
Oh, my God.

2234
01:37:33,223 --> 01:37:34,933
Um, there's...
there were so many.

2235
01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:37,185
-Um...
-(laughter)

2236
01:37:38,687 --> 01:37:42,816
Uh, very permed hair, the--
I teased my bangs up

2237
01:37:42,816 --> 01:37:45,944
and wore, like,
a big permed helmet.

2238
01:37:45,944 --> 01:37:48,572
(laughter)

2239
01:37:48,572 --> 01:37:52,033
-Rosdely, this is your last
question. You ready? -Yes.

2240
01:37:52,033 --> 01:37:55,328
Uh, Rosdely, what do you imagine
your life will be like

2241
01:37:55,328 --> 01:37:57,330
in 20 years?

2242
01:37:57,330 --> 01:38:00,750
I will be 34.

2243
01:38:00,750 --> 01:38:06,047
Um, I want to be
a New York Times best seller.

2244
01:38:06,047 --> 01:38:08,592
(cheering, applause)

2245
01:38:08,592 --> 01:38:12,220
Oh, and then I kind of want to
have a signature look by then.

2246
01:38:12,220 --> 01:38:15,307
(laughter)

2247
01:38:15,307 --> 01:38:19,936
Like Doc Martens, business
casual pants and a T-shirt.

2248
01:38:19,936 --> 01:38:21,938
(laughter, applause)

2249
01:38:30,238 --> 01:38:32,991
And my hair will just go
with the flow.

2250
01:38:32,991 --> 01:38:34,326
(laughter)

2251
01:38:35,994 --> 01:38:38,872
-That's what I imagine.
-(bell dings)

2252
01:38:38,872 --> 01:38:40,582
(cheering, applause)

2253
01:38:40,582 --> 01:38:43,335
("Reject All American"
by Bikini Kill playing)

2254
01:38:45,378 --> 01:38:47,088
(cheering continues)

2255
01:38:54,304 --> 01:38:57,265
♪ Regimented ♪

2256
01:38:57,265 --> 01:39:00,560
♪ Designated ♪

2257
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,480
♪ Mass acceptance ♪

2258
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:07,108
♪ Overrated, lip sync ♪

2259
01:39:07,108 --> 01:39:09,986
♪ Apology, lip sync... ♪

2260
01:39:09,986 --> 01:39:12,113
And one of these brilliant
young women

2261
01:39:12,113 --> 01:39:14,616
has agreed to join us
here tonight.

2262
01:39:14,616 --> 01:39:16,618
(cheering, applause)

2263
01:39:16,618 --> 01:39:18,620
♪ Obligation ♪

2264
01:39:20,372 --> 01:39:23,583
♪ If you work hard,
you'll succeed... ♪

2265
01:39:23,583 --> 01:39:26,503
Hi. My name is Rosdely Ciprian.

2266
01:39:26,503 --> 01:39:28,546
My name is Thursday Williams.

2267
01:39:28,546 --> 01:39:30,340
I am a recent graduate

2268
01:39:30,340 --> 01:39:32,133
of William Cullen Bryant
High School

2269
01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:34,678
and an alum of
the Legal Outreach Program

2270
01:39:34,678 --> 01:39:36,680
where I practice
constitutional debate.

2271
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:37,889
-ROSDELY: Heads.
-HEIDI: Tails.

2272
01:39:37,889 --> 01:39:39,432
-Tails.
-Heads.

2273
01:39:39,432 --> 01:39:42,227
-I'll take proposition, abolish.
-Opposition, keep.

2274
01:39:42,227 --> 01:39:44,354
-Opposition, keep. -I would like
proposition, abolish.

2275
01:39:44,354 --> 01:39:45,814
ROSDELY:
"This house ought to abolish

2276
01:39:45,814 --> 01:39:47,524
the United States Constitution."

2277
01:39:47,524 --> 01:39:49,067
-(cheering, applause)
-Yes.

2278
01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:52,821
The proposition says she's going
to make an all-new Constitution,

2279
01:39:52,821 --> 01:39:54,322
but let me ask you this:

2280
01:39:54,322 --> 01:39:56,157
Would you let me
go into another room

2281
01:39:56,157 --> 01:39:58,118
and decide all the rules
for all of you?

2282
01:39:58,118 --> 01:40:00,161
No, you wouldn't.
Let's be honest.

2283
01:40:00,161 --> 01:40:02,372
How many rich, white men
who own property

2284
01:40:02,372 --> 01:40:04,749
are still in control
of our government today?

2285
01:40:04,749 --> 01:40:06,042
I know, right?

2286
01:40:06,042 --> 01:40:07,794
We will not erase
the sins of our history

2287
01:40:07,794 --> 01:40:09,754
by simply tossing out
a piece of paper.

2288
01:40:09,754 --> 01:40:11,923
-Especially when this piece
of paper... -(bell dings)

2289
01:40:11,923 --> 01:40:14,134
...is capable of shining a light
into our own blind spots.

2290
01:40:14,134 --> 01:40:15,343
Thank you.

2291
01:40:15,343 --> 01:40:17,053
(overlapping chatter)

2292
01:40:17,053 --> 01:40:18,304
MIKE:
Hey!

2293
01:40:18,304 --> 01:40:19,764
(overlapping chatter continues)

2294
01:40:19,764 --> 01:40:21,141
Hey!

2295
01:40:21,141 --> 01:40:23,309
Just a glance
at current headlines

2296
01:40:23,309 --> 01:40:26,813
should tell you that
this moment really is different.

2297
01:40:26,813 --> 01:40:29,065
The consequences of any of us

2298
01:40:29,065 --> 01:40:31,735
sitting on the sidelines
are more dire.

2299
01:40:31,735 --> 01:40:35,655
With that being said, if
you want to change a country,

2300
01:40:35,655 --> 01:40:39,868
you need to wake up,
get involved, go vote,

2301
01:40:39,868 --> 01:40:43,913
put pressure on your
local representatives, protest.

2302
01:40:43,913 --> 01:40:46,624
Matter of fact, no.
Let's do it ourselves.

2303
01:40:46,624 --> 01:40:48,376
Let's run for local office.

2304
01:40:48,376 --> 01:40:49,878
Let's run for
student government.

2305
01:40:49,878 --> 01:40:51,713
Let's be the change
that we desire.

2306
01:40:51,713 --> 01:40:54,215
Let's start with
our own personal constitution

2307
01:40:54,215 --> 01:40:55,717
and build our way out.

2308
01:40:55,717 --> 01:40:58,178
-Thank you.
-(cheering, applause)

2309
01:40:58,178 --> 01:41:00,180
("Angry Too"
by Lola Blanc playing)

2310
01:41:01,973 --> 01:41:05,018
♪ I buried
the unseemly urges ♪

2311
01:41:05,018 --> 01:41:08,021
♪ Deep down in the ground
with the roots ♪

2312
01:41:08,021 --> 01:41:10,982
♪ But it's all coming up
to the surface ♪

2313
01:41:10,982 --> 01:41:13,985
♪ Maybe it's getting ready
to bloom ♪

2314
01:41:13,985 --> 01:41:17,447
♪ And I don't want to be
a monster in the making ♪

2315
01:41:17,447 --> 01:41:20,366
♪ I don't want to be
more bitter than sweet ♪

2316
01:41:20,366 --> 01:41:23,369
♪ I don't know how to be
just standing by blankly ♪

2317
01:41:23,369 --> 01:41:25,997
♪ Not getting angry ♪

2318
01:41:25,997 --> 01:41:28,500
♪ 'Cause another and another
coming up out of the gutter ♪

2319
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:30,460
♪ Till I'm drowning
in an ocean ♪

2320
01:41:30,460 --> 01:41:32,337
♪ Of entitled motherfuckers ♪

2321
01:41:32,337 --> 01:41:33,838
♪ And they're pushing
all my buttons ♪

2322
01:41:33,838 --> 01:41:35,298
♪ But they never seem
to wonder why ♪

2323
01:41:35,298 --> 01:41:37,300
♪ Another and another
ask each other ♪

2324
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:39,969
♪ Does it get
your blood boiling? ♪

2325
01:41:39,969 --> 01:41:43,348
♪ Does it make you see red? ♪

2326
01:41:43,348 --> 01:41:45,809
♪ Do you want to destroy it? ♪

2327
01:41:45,809 --> 01:41:49,354
♪ Does it get in your head? ♪

2328
01:41:49,354 --> 01:41:51,815
♪ 'Cause it gets
my blood boiling ♪

2329
01:41:51,815 --> 01:41:54,901
♪ And I'm coming unglued ♪

2330
01:41:54,901 --> 01:41:58,112
♪ It would hit you like poison ♪

2331
01:41:58,112 --> 01:42:00,198
♪ If you knew what I knew ♪

2332
01:42:00,198 --> 01:42:03,159
♪ You would be angry, too ♪

2333
01:42:08,081 --> 01:42:10,959
♪ I'm seeing through
crimson sunglasses ♪

2334
01:42:10,959 --> 01:42:14,254
♪ I'm breathing
and counting to ten ♪

2335
01:42:14,254 --> 01:42:17,215
♪ I guess I'm fresh out
of free passes ♪

2336
01:42:17,215 --> 01:42:20,051
♪ They'll pay
if it happens again ♪

2337
01:42:20,051 --> 01:42:23,221
♪ And I don't want to drink
the venom they made me ♪

2338
01:42:23,221 --> 01:42:26,307
♪ I don't want to be
controlled by the past ♪

2339
01:42:26,307 --> 01:42:29,310
♪ Boy, if you were me,
could you really blame me? ♪

2340
01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:31,938
♪ Would make you crazy ♪

2341
01:42:31,938 --> 01:42:34,941
♪ 'Cause another and another
coming up out of the gutter ♪

2342
01:42:34,941 --> 01:42:36,401
♪ Till I'm drowning
in an ocean ♪

2343
01:42:36,401 --> 01:42:38,236
♪ Of entitled motherfuckers ♪

2344
01:42:38,236 --> 01:42:39,779
♪ And they're pushing
all my buttons ♪

2345
01:42:39,779 --> 01:42:41,406
♪ But they never seem
to wonder why ♪

2346
01:42:41,406 --> 01:42:43,324
♪ Another and another
ask each other ♪

2347
01:42:43,324 --> 01:42:46,035
♪ Does it get
your blood boiling? ♪

2348
01:42:46,035 --> 01:42:48,830
♪ Does it make you see red? ♪

2349
01:42:48,830 --> 01:42:52,041
♪ Do you want to destroy it? ♪

2350
01:42:52,041 --> 01:42:55,253
♪ Does it get in your head? ♪

2351
01:42:55,253 --> 01:42:58,006
♪ 'Cause it gets
my blood boiling ♪

2352
01:42:58,006 --> 01:43:00,967
♪ And I'm coming unglued ♪

2353
01:43:00,967 --> 01:43:04,012
♪ It would hit you like poison ♪

2354
01:43:04,012 --> 01:43:06,139
♪ If you knew what I knew ♪

2355
01:43:06,139 --> 01:43:08,516
♪ You would angry ♪

2356
01:43:08,516 --> 01:43:10,810
♪ Calm down, girl ♪

2357
01:43:10,810 --> 01:43:14,314
♪ Why you so mad? ♪

2358
01:43:14,314 --> 01:43:18,443
♪ Guess they have forgotten ♪

2359
01:43:18,443 --> 01:43:23,990
♪ What they did... ♪

2360
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:25,992
♪ 'Cause it gets
my blood boiling ♪

2361
01:43:25,992 --> 01:43:30,204
-♪ Boiling ♪
-♪ And I'm coming unglued ♪

2362
01:43:30,204 --> 01:43:33,207
♪ It would hit you like poison ♪

2363
01:43:33,207 --> 01:43:35,043
♪ If you knew what I knew ♪

2364
01:43:35,043 --> 01:43:37,420
♪ You would angry ♪

2365
01:43:39,464 --> 01:43:42,508
♪ You would be angry ♪

2366
01:43:42,508 --> 01:43:46,679
-♪ You would be angry ♪
-♪ Angry ♪

2367
01:43:46,679 --> 01:43:50,683
♪ You would be angry, too. ♪

2368
01:43:56,230 --> 01:43:58,024
(seagulls chirping)

2369
01:43:58,024 --> 01:43:59,400
(dog barks)



