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- One night,
I dreamt of taking a big group of women,
for 20 days on a ship to Antarctica.
It's like that wonderful T.S. Eliot quote,
"At the end of all our exploring,
"we come back to where we started,
"and we know this place for the first time."
And that as it slipped into my consciousness
as a leadership expert was, "Oh my God!"
Bam! That was it.
Welcome to the Andes.
The expectation, personally, I have of the trip,
is it will be 70% as good as the next trip.
And that there is high tolerance,
for things not going to plan.
Because the greatest learning anybody will ever have,
is from the mistake they make,
not from getting everything right.
- I'm just letting them know that that's going to happen...
- Have you seen me on stage?
Have you seen me in many tricky moments?
I'm so not gonna tell you... - You're always on stage.
- No.
- Yes, hello everybody.
Oh my God, we did it.
What the fuck!
- Hello.
It's gone from an idea for a group of women
to a global movement.
Can I give you a hug? - Yeah.
- Right now, the most sustainable propositions we have,
is a place of women at the leadership table
with a science background.
So this is a leadership expedition, for women in science.
Have I said hello to you? - No.
- It's a 10 year project.
Hello.
This is the first 76 of 1000,
on a ship for 20 days heading to Antarctica.
- I know it's all happening.
- When all is said and done in this project,
what we will really test the project on,
is we are able to have an impact on the world.
I don't know about anyone else,
but it strikes me as glaringly obvious
that the world is mightily short,
of leaders who can collaborate,
who are inclusive,
who have a legacy mindset,
and are ethical with money.
Does anyone else agree with me,
that maybe we need a few more people like that?
Homeward Bound, it's an experiment in some ways.
Leadership is easy when things are good.
The ultimate test of leadership is,
can you do it effectively when things aren't good?
- Antarctica is the picture frame.
It's what we're fighting for.
This exquisitely beautiful, fast retreating,
last vestige of the way the planet was.
There are some mission critical differences,
when women are leading at their best
that our world needs right now.
- I'm working in Washington DC
for a member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Less than 20% of members of Congress are women.
There's a lot of specific instances of sexism
that you have to deal with every day,
being a woman, both in politics,
but also as a woman in science.
And so, I hope that Homeward Bound teaches me
how to overcome that.
When I was child, my mom would bring me into the woods
or to the streams or to the lakes in Minnesota
and I would collect nature.
Birds nest and birds eggs,
skulls of foxes.
So I spent some time being a field biologist,
working on behaviour of meerkats in South Africa.
But I wanted to be more impactful.
I would hope that science underpins every decision
that is made in DC,
from climate change, to healthcare, to housing policies,
I mean, this is all science,
whether it's ecological science
or social science or Chemistry or Physics.
What we do in Washington DC,
will impact the rest of the world.
I mean, there's no question about that.
I'm hoping that Homeward Bound
is a very gender focused leadership training.
So, here are the barriers
that have been put up for women in science
and here are ways to get around them or over them
or tear them down.
- I might be one of those women in 30 years who are saying,
"I've waited my whole life for a woman president."
Like I saw my mom saying,
"I think it's finally here."
I don't think she's gonna see a woman president
in her lifetime.
That's very personal.
- Homeward Bound is a vision
of what would be different in our world,
if women were at the leadership table, in equal measure.
So, a little health warning for our job
if we do our job for you really well
is that all of you are gonna feel uncomfortable
at some stage in this journey.
And if you don't,
we will have in some way or another found you.
Oh, feel free to come in now.
We started about half an hour ago.
Which part of 1:30 didn't you get?
Stand up.
I quite like public humiliation.
Do you pride yourself on your logic, your intelligence
and your ability to think things through?
- I'm logical.
- You're logical, yeah, okay.
So I want you to look at your hand left or right.
Look at that hand, you know that hand.
See the brilliance of yourself there,
your intelligence.
Wipe it on your butt cheek.
Leave all that sanity behind.
Now you can sit down.
- I'm a parasitologist.
More specifically a malariologist.
I think most people would think I'm a confident person,
but I'm not.
When I first heard about the trip to Antarctica,
the first thing I thought when I got picked,
was it must be a hoax because why would anyone choose me?
When I get back,
I don't know if I have a job.
So I've been working on the same project
for almost nine years now.
But my contracts,
other than when I was a PhD student,
have never been more than one year.
I've never asked for a raise.
You figure you're lucky to get what you're given.
- It's a very tough competitive environment.
Perhaps that just suits the men a little bit more.
I don't know.
Does it suit you?
- Well, I'm a competitive person.
Yeah, so perhaps it does.
- Our lab is focused on how the parasite survives
in red blood cells.
So, when the mosquito bites you, it can put a parasite in,
replicates millions of times,
goes into your blood and that's when you get the disease.
I was born in South Africa.
Now when I was little, we spent half our time in England,
half in Zim.
Zimbabwe that is.
In Africa, you're so much in the outdoors,
and it really ignited a passion in nature.
My uncle got me up in the middle of the night
and he showed me that the stars move.
It's not the stars are moving, we're moving.
And the idea that actually we're spinning
at an unbelievable speed,
it is just fantastic.
I thought, "I wanna be a scientist.
"I want to find new things and do exciting things."
Also in Africa, I had a lot of friends,
and I played with the son of a guard called Hamish.
And yeah, one year he died.
And, it was HIV.
The thing that really stuck with me,
was the unfairness that so many young died in Africa.
And so, I think that's where I kind of always thought
I'd work on HIV or malaria.
2014, 500,000 people died of malaria.
That's one person every minute.
What would happen if we eliminated malaria?
Just think what what's happen
to that third of the world's population
that lives in tropical areas.
Just think about that.
The whole reason I do science
is to make people's lives better, to reduce death.
But, it's whether I'm good enough to stay.
- Majority of the women on the ship
are the only women in their department or in their school.
When you look at women in STEMM.
Women are in low-level positions, in research institutions,
and of course the numbers just dwindle,
when you get to professorial level.
When women hit obstacles and they have no role models,
and they have no one to turn to, they have no support,
then they automatically blame themselves.
If it's my personal failure that I can't advance my career,
well, then I have no place in science.
And so, that's the women leaking out of the pipeline.
If the majority of scientists and engineers are men,
then that determines the kind of questions
that are asked in the first place.
For instance, female crash test dummies,
are really just smaller versions
of the male crash test dummies.
They don't really account for women's physiological features
say like that they have less muscular necks,
so they're twice as likely to suffer whiplash injuries
compared to men.
There are 20 to 40% more likely
to be seriously injured or killed in a car accident.
It's another example of men's bodies,
serving as the template for all human bodies.
Everyone's experience brings something new to the table.
And so, having more women
in groundbreaking research projects can help to change
and challenge some of the biggest research questions
that we're facing.
- There is no enemy in this,
other than not enough women.
Mother Nature needs her daughters.
- I see a black browed albatross.
Oh, there's even another species there,
a sooty albatross.
So, it feels really good
because I've spent six months of my life,
isolated on Subantarctic Islands working with them.
And I have a huge respect for them
because they're really declining.
Their populations are really endangered,
and I'm trying to figure out the drivers
and the consequences for ecosystems.
Albatrosses are very magical in a way
when you see them for the first time.
This wings span of three metres.
They mark you, you remember them.
But also they have a lifestyle,
that makes them very vulnerable.
They can leave up to 60 years.
They have a partner for life.
They start breeding for the first time,
at 10 to 15 years old.
So when adults are killed
by fisheries bycatch, for instance,
the population decline quite steeply
and they don't manage to recover.
It's always a bit dreadful when you finish your PhD.
You don't know where you're going to end up
because you need to find job
and that means moving, generally.
And then I received an email from my current boss
who said, "Look, I just got this grant
"on albatross demography," which was my topic exactly,
"Would you be interested in applying?"
And I was like, "Of course."
The first time I walked down the streets of Cambridge,
I had just finished my interview.
I fell in love straight away.
Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard,
they're like the top universities you can hear about.
And with these, goes the top research labs.
Famous scientists like Darwin, Newton,
Watson who discovered DNA with Crick.
I never really thought I would end up here.
- She's a specialist,
and probably amongst the best half a dozen 10 people
in the world, in that piece of science.
They're doing it as a full life job.
Nine o'clock at night,
I'll just email one of my team or one of my colleagues,
I get a response within half an hour,
because science is almost a state of mind.
- When I said that I was pregnant to my boss,
I had sweat coming from my head.
Well, you feel ashamed and guilty in a way
because you know
you're gonna slow down the research process.
And having a break is losing time
in the race for permanent position.
- And so the phrase comes into existence,
"Publish or perish."
Because if you publish, you continue with your career,
if you don't publish enough and in the right places,
you fall by the wayside.
- Sometimes I wonder, "Even if I publish this,
"what is going to change?"
As soon as I heard, about the existence of Homeward Bound
I went to apply for it.
I think Fabian, she's incredible.
She's completely crazy.
But she has this power of catching you in a second.
She catches your attention, she catches your heart,
she catches the best of you.
So, I'm really happy
to have her taking me in this adventure.
- Shall we all pick up a penguin?
- We've been together for 11 years now,
and we've been apart for five.
He kind of had to follow me
because I wouldn't give up on my job,
which is my passion.
But I wouldn't give up on him neither.
- Put it this way, out of the last 11 years,
we've only spent three in the same place.
- Oh, wow, it is very difficult.
That's why now,
I kind of don't want to play this game again.
- Often you have to go and work
in the place that's gonna be most suitable
for your skill. - Yes.
It's not about the skills anymore,
and people, as I understand,
it's about who's ready to sacrifice more his personal life.
What I feel is costing to my career,
is this tiredness of this insecurity
of having to move with your family all the time.
And my partner is tired.
Like, I've played the card,
okay, you follow me, you don't have the choice.
I've played this card
and now I need to find another solution.
We are in a chinstrap penguin colony.
They're incubating their eggs.
So, you can feel some tension for stealing pebbles
and for showing your the strongest
and for keeping the little circle around your nest free.
Their populations in the Antarctic are declining
as the climate is warming.
There is less sea ice, so there is less krill,
so there is less food for these guys.
Antarctica is such a symbol of what's happening
on the planet.
And it's one of the last wilderness as well
but, we can measure our impact here.
- If the people with the facts,
do not know how to get their voices into public domain
or to manage their emotions and their sense of self,
when they are under onslaught
and being told that what they stand for, believe in
is bullshit,
or being talked over
by men who are more politically motivated
or economically motivated,
we cannot change the world.
We really wanna know your leadership capability
because if we can't nail that,
if you can't deal with your story,
when you run into a significant obstacle, it will undo you.
And I already know the stories in the room.
I know how many of you have been either sexually harassed,
have been bullied.
When those came through, I was furious
because there the centre of the downside of life,
was harassment, abuse, sexual harassment.
And the worst part of this,
is we keep being given the notion that it is meritocracy,
which allows you to be selected to leadership.
And it is unequivocally bullshit.
- So my reasoning for coming on this,
was to get the message out there of what happens,
what the reality is on site for women,
that will help me get over my demons I think.
I'm normally outside on a construction site
or a mine site, the only female with 40 other men.
At this particular site
that I had been going back and forth to for five years,
it was my favourite site.
I got to know the guys really, really well.
We did say often how we were a little family.
- One of the guys spiked my colleague and I,
our drinks one night,
and luckily she caught him in the act of doing that.
And he just kept saying, "Don't worry, just drink it.
"Just drink, it's nothing."
But, what did he put in our can?
If it's something to put us to sleep,
we realised our doors don't lock.
What shocked us the most was we counted ourselves as equal
with these guys.
There were other guys around at the time,
and they didn't really say anything.
I hold trust and loyalty high.
And to have someone you trust do that,
kinda rips your soul out.
And I don't know how to move on from it.
- The content that we're working with is really tough,
it's really arresting.
These are things that...
People are dealing with issues
that have been buried and compartmentalise and put away.
And it's being opened up and faced into.
- Nobody supported you.
Nobody came and got your back.
- Yeah, I know, I was just thinking it.
- I was 25,
when I first went to work
in a semi remote place, where there was 28 men
and there was me,
and they made it pretty clear that I wasn't welcome.
People said, "We don't have women scientists.
"What are you doing here?"
But one weekend one of the guys got a gun,
and sort of head height in my hut and went,
"Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang!"
So, when I came back,
there's just shotgun holes all through my shed.
Nobody said anything to me about it.
Like, let alone, "Are you okay?"
You know, it was my first proper job.
I didn't wanna make any waves.
Well, you know how in gender issues
we talk about you can't be what you can't see,
and it's exactly the same for men.
So I don't see men
behaving in a really respectful way.
They're not gonna behave that way.
- We can do all of this great stuff.
And like I've said,
I would like to mentor other future female field scientists.
But that's not the issue there.
The issue is, the guys acting the way they're acting.
- Men's behaviour?
- Yeah.
- Hi everyone, I'm Lauren Sandon,
your friendly contaminated sites environmental scientists.
A lot of us women on site tend to feel very isolated.
For me, after six years, I built up a wall.
I was forced to adapt and become one of the boys.
Enough is enough.
We shouldn't have to fit into a socio norm,
that forces you to sacrifice your true self.
I'm now ready to challenge this,
but I can't do it alone.
So I'm now reaching out to all of you
to help share your stories,
and your experiences and how we can move this forward.
So that our future sisters, granddaughters, daughters,
and friends, don't have to be someone else that they're not.
And they can be their true self.
Thank you.
- One night,
with a colleague, we were supposed to be talking about work,
I had to hand over some work,
and he started trying to take my clothes off
and I tried to fight him off saying no and everything
but, I never told anyone.
Yeah, and I...
Yeah, I just wanted to leave that kind of field after that.
Yeah, you don't wanna ever have to have your career,
riding on what they say about you.
That's the biggest issue
is that, do I lose a career over this?
Still that kind of deep fear inside is pretty big.
- When there are so few women
in certain scientific disciplines,
it's a bad thing if you make yourself known
or if you complain or if you require a special treatment.
And so, to a certain extent women are trained
to be invisible.
- I just never even considered it
until I started talking to some of the other women
and the stuff that they'd experienced.
When you're made to feel uncomfortable in some way
or sexually assaulted, it's huge.
And it can't just be me.
- Almost all the women I've talked to
said this is the most women in science
that they've ever seen in a room at once.
- Happy?
- Ecstatic.
- Oh, it's so nice to hear that.
Some happy faces.
That's what we need.
- So many people have been coming up and offering support
and advice and saying, thank you for sharing.
So, that's been lovely.
And now it's funny.
It's allowing people to come up
and share their stories with me and ask my advice.
So, it's been really, really nice, yeah.
- This is probably the absolute heartland
of the change we're gonna try
and help these scientists with because we'll know the data.
We all know the stats
on how many women have dealt with very significant issues
at some stage in their lives.
So we're helping them look at those stories
and then find a way to let them go.
So they can step
into being the sort of leaders they actually wanna be.
- Look how fast we reach the ice,
then the channel.
- The dark art of reading ice.
It looks okay in there as well.
I've been here a lot,
but you never know what to expect of it
from one day to the next.
So, it's quixotic.
You can't pick it.
And there are lines in it
and bubbles in it and colours in it,
which tell of the story
and the volatility of it.
- Pretty excited about his one
because this is a really difficult place to get to,
and the conditions are very volatile here.
Captain's happy with the position.
We're now adjacent to a good landing place on Paulet Island.
And on top of that, a vast Adelie penguin colony.
They're on the starboard side of the ship.
- When I was nine years old,
I received a set of six photos of Antarctica
from my mom's colleague, who I call Uncle Lee.
And I always thought as a young child,
that he had been to Antarctica
with the first Chinese scientist,
and brought those photos for me as a special gift.
So those were my most precious possessions.
I've always wanted to come.
I've remembered this for like over 20 years.
And my mom said, "I don't remember he's ever being abroad.
"It's probably not possible that he'd ever gone there."
- After high school,
I studied abroad at Cambridge University,
and followed by that a Master of Business Administration,
at Oxford.
In China, there is a saying,
"The female PhD is the third gender."
So there's women, men, and the female PhD.
The Copenhagen Climate Summit
is when I suddenly woke up and realised
that what I really cared about as nine-year-old,
and what I really cared about as a 22 year old
was practically the same.
Since then, I have been very active
in climate change activism.
- My parents say, I'm like a.
Like in Chinese where she say, "A person of six nos."
So you have like no house, no cars,
no stable job, no good insurance,
no husband, no children.
And that's, for my parents, sometimes not very nice
because definitely the 5,000 year old Chinese wisdom
say, "Family is crucial."
- China is now the biggest carbon emitter
in the world.
So China emit the most carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
- Every day I've been taking a video diary,
trying to explain that here,
you could feel the wildlife of nature to be so close to you,
and that's something a lot of children or people in China,
who haven't experienced that growing up
if they grew up in the city.
And kind of just being respectful
of the deep time that this spot has gone through.
- At Oxford, we had a whole course on leadership.
Leadership fundamentals, leadership in different domains,
different types of leadership.
I know a lot of leadership theory,
but doesn't mean that I could act as a good leader.
I wrote an email to Fabian,
and explained that I could help
with planning outreaching China,
because I looked at the participants
and there weren't anybody from different cultures.
And that she said, "Welcome to the faculty."
- If you've ever sat back in your arm chair and wondered,
"How to global movements start,"
they absolutely start like this.
I'm gonna invite Songqiao,
to tell you what's happened with media 'cause it's amazing.
- Very quickly, it's just being-
- No, do it slowly and loudly.
- We have been getting more media coverage,
including features from The Huffington Post,
The Independent,
redbull.com, whatever you think about that.
- Redbull.com has got 45 million Facebook followers.
- All the discussions about leadership,
is a bit more tricky to translate to the Chinese audience,
because the leadership model we talk about onboard
is very much coming from the individual.
What's your purpose, and what's your value,
your own limitations.
- This thing you do...
- And we do these diagnostic.
And then, the next step
is what's your own personal strategy map.
- To help you be visible, you gotta know yourself.
To know yourself really, really well,
it helps to have some really, really good
transformational experiences around sense of self.
- So I think in China
there is a stronger emphasis on the community.
And there's always a sense
that you shouldn't be too different from the collective.
In the back of my mind I'm always thinking,
"But what about the bigger good?
"What about the collective?
"And what about as a group what we want to achieve?"
- Women went to extraordinary lengths to get here.
Most women raised at least $30,000, mortgaging their houses,
selling baked goods, doing all these like ridiculous things
that adult women who are leaders in our field...
I mean, you'd never ask a Dean of Faculty
to sell baked goods in order to get leadership development.
Deep down my interest in this programme,
stems from the fact that I'm a failed scientist.
I wanted to be a doctor, I loved science at school.
I liked physics, I loved black holes.
Like that was my thing.
And then I got to uni, and I got into chemistry
and I lasted a week.
My first chemistry class was like 2000 people.
There were 10 women in the entire class.
I was just terrified,
I was convinced that I'd never be able to do it.
The kinds of problems that women in STEMM fields are facing
are not new, they're not particular to STEMM fields.
And so, I hope that Homeward Bound,
is kind of an experimental laboratory
for thinking about how we can address
these much broader challenges,
that apply to all women from all organisational context
and all backgrounds.
- Imagine waking up and seeing that every morning.
Oh.
- Last Saturday,
we were in the glacier working with six degrees.
That shouldn't happen.
We're in Antarctica.
At this point of year, it should be snowing,
there's no snow anywhere.
And it's terrible.
It's really, really terrible.
It is happening.
It's not going to be a hundred years.
It's going to be in our lifetime.
- Soil chemistry, soil physics, soil biology
is essential to help the earth.
I was asking Luna about the green stuff.
So I was saying, "Is it grass?"
She said, "No, it's moss."
I'm like, "Moss! That's my favourite."
Come and see. Ah, it's so exciting.
Everyone else is just walking past, right?
This amazing phenomenon.
You can actually see the moss
turning into soil right here.
Like, I'm really excited that I can see the plants,
that I can see the moss
but I don't wanna be that lucky.
I wanna be here, when it's all under snow.
Yeah.
- Both times I took maternity leave as a post-doc,
those two jobs ended.
And I was quite devastated,
"Oh, my God have got a new baby.
"I've gotta start looking for a new job."
And I really wanted to be a soil scientist.
Do you think it's my undies,
or do you think it's the book?
- The book.
It's been super stressful,
'cause I don't have ongoing work.
The first thing that they're gonna look at,
is how many papers have you published?
Now the number of papers that you publish each year,
is gonna be less
if you've taken years off to have children.
So, your CV is just never gonna look as good as people
who haven't done that. - I'll do your pass code.
Scientist are my favourite.
- Scientist are your favourite, really?
As a parent and a soil scientist,
I'm out there at the park, hearing other people say,
"Don't get dirty.
"Put that stick down.
"Yuck!"
So, I thought I will write a children's book.
By the time I'm reading this to kinder age children,
some of the girls are going, "Yuck! Ah!"
At the beach, I see soil in the cliffs.
Brown, white, yellow,
sometimes even pink.
- Ah! Pink.
- We swim and chase seagulls and then we build a big fort.
I totally hope that exploring soils,
will inspire more girls and boys to get outside
and get dirty and then get into science.
But every time my contract comes to an end,
and I'm applying and applying for jobs and not getting them
I think I've given science a really good go,
but if science doesn't want me, maybe that's it.
- Maternity leave becomes a lever
for organisations.
Once you take your foot out of the door,
then if you're not a permanent employee, for example,
that means you have effectively no rights.
- Good morning Possums.
It's now quarter to eight.
The weather has changed,
grey but better for us
because the wind is probably moving the ice in our favour.
It's calm in here, so that's good.
And, breakfast is on in 15 minutes there, eight o'clock.
- It's a leopard seal,
top predator of the Antarctica.
It was my number one thing I wanted to see.
They're very reptilian looking,
which is really awesome.
They eat penguins by shaking them around and getting that...
Ooh! You gotta go see it.
Okay.
- They're looking incredibly like a slug.
- I guess, I was thinking they look like a dinosaur.
- So cool. - So cool.
Smell that?
Smells like leopard seals.
- Love the smell of leopard seal in the morning.
- Love the smell of it too in the morning.
Show us your teeth.
- There you go.
- I'm relatively new to this station
but I have spent five other seasons at McMurdo,
including three winters.
And I just finished a winter in October,
and then came right here.
- Have you noticed...
- When I listened to those young women
talk about what they're doing here.
I do kind of think, "Oh, that was so nearly me."
In 1981,
I studied Antarctic algae
and I became obsessed with the place.
I just loved it.
And I applied for three years in a row.
Great application, fit the criteria,
but I'm sorry we don't have facilities for women.
Some of the boys
that were in our labs studying algae as well,
they got to come here.
And then when Homeward Bound became an opportunity,
I thought, "Haha, yes."
On this trip,
the boys doing the Antarctic algae can't go.
So that was a nice sort of symmetry, I suppose.
We've just heard about dramatic changes
in the glacier receding.
So in 27 seasons,
there's been a recede of 30 feet a year.
30 feet a year.
These changes are real
and they're happening right here,
and we're witnessing this.
We just need all the best minds that we can get,
all the multiple perspectives we can get,
the best people to address this science
and think about how we support this environment better
into the future.
- Homeward Bound is a contemporary,
sort of symbolic encouraging of women
into this very male dominated space.
1969, the first all women's scientific expedition,
landed in Antarctica.
They wanted to collect their own samples.
So up until then, women weren't allowed to do that.
When they touched down, journalists were waiting.
And, one of the first things they asked this group of women
was whether they brought lipstick.
- Two big ticket items
we wanna be sure every person in this room has,
and that is why you're on Homeward Bound,
why you lead, those two together,
and the second one is, "What's important to me as a leader?
"What do I really value?"
And my own journey around this
is I muck up a business in the '80s.
So, I was very well known in Australia,
as a quite young leader.
I was 30 by the time I was CEO,
of a large Australian company.
And I was 30 and a bit by the time I ruined it.
- Until a week ago, the name Fabian Dattner
was synonymous with furs and fortune.
At 33, she's the managing director
of the $15 million Stephen Dattner Group of Companies.
- Ms. Dattner says her business problems
began to accumulate last year.
Dattner four Victorian stores will close,
following a liquidator sale starting on Thursday.
- Australia's leading leather and fur retailer
is having a crisis on the sellout.
The crisis,
thousands of the world's finest leathers and furs
must be liquidated.
Foxes at never before prices.
Fabulous mink.
- And so I...
In my personal journey,
looking first at my own leadership,
I had 350 young people working for me
and 350 people lost their jobs.
As a result of the way I ran a company.
And over the following three or four years,
I interviewed thousands and thousands of people who work,
and hearing from them
what they wish leaders could do differently.
- She's still on the corporate cat walk,
pursuing a new career,
telling people in business that being put out of business,
is not the end of the world.
- I've spent 30 years obsessed with studying,
reading about development qualifications
in doing courses on or talking about facilitating coaching,
everyday of my life on leadership.
It is my absolute obsession.
I know that domain,
as well as if not better than most people
on the planet today.
It's almost like it's written in a book.
Always be mindful,
that sitting on your lap
is your four or five year old self.
What would you say to her?
- Fabian's leadership style is inspirational.
She's charismatic.
You know she can be a little bit cavalier in her approach.
It forces you,
to be thoughtful and reflective.
- Anyone else's got something you wanna share
or an insight or an observation?
Yes.
- I had a moment on the beach
and I realised, if I think the worst about myself,
nothing that anyone else can say can be a surprise
'cause if they think the same things, then I'm right.
And I realised how backwards that was,
as I looked up at those beautiful bluffs.
And, yeah, changed my mindset.
I don't need to...
I don't need to do that.
- Thank you.
- So I would say on a scale of one to 10,
a rawness factor is probably sitting
about an eight and a half,
so they're confronting the story
that's going on in their head.
This is exactly
where I want to see the transformational change,
where people get the chance to let go of stuff
that's been holding them back
and stopping them being as effective as the effect could be.
- It's probably 10 times what I thought it would be.
I just thought we were coming along to sit in groups
and talk about leadership.
I didn't expect to have a breakdown and then come back up.
And, it's just a bit crazy.
Yeah.
- I think for me,
the confidence is seeing all these other amazing people
who do such cool stuff.
Makes you think, "Oh yeah, I could do that too."
- Yeah, that.
I would say, I don't want to put the message out to women
that it's women that need to be transformed,
and changed all the time.
It shouldn't be up to the women to change.
- Yeah, okay. - It's a lot of social
and cultural issues. - Changes.
- Yeah, it's not up to the women to fix it all.
- We're just gonna have a faculty meeting,
and I'll come grab you afterwards if that's okay with you?
Yeah, I'll be there.
- Okay, your little hands are frozen.
- I was looking at iceburgs.
- All of the kinds of leadership and strategy work
is based on the idea,
if you dream it and you do it, it will come to you.
But the fact is, it doesn't look at the broader structures
and the context, that actually prevent women from advancing.
We have to talk about the overwhelming whiteness
of the group and not brush it aside
for a problem for next time.
We need to talk about the fact
that whiteness actually enables leadership.
White people tend to pick white people.
And so-
- I've not heard that predisposition.
- But also, it's not just the participants,
we need to think about the faculty.
- What's your sense of what needs to change?
Remembering your high perfectionistic and predisposition.
- I think that actually thing is the a quota.
- There are a lot of people in here accustomed to problems,
solution, problems solution.
We would make as an observation at this stage,
one of the biggest problems in the group
is lack of self-awareness.
So we've got a group
at the moment, we haven't yet laid the transition
into even knowing themselves
and how they are affecting the other people around them.
Because to change the world,
first you gotta change yourself.
And, you have a bit of your own journey to go through yet.
I don't wanna rob you of that.
- Yeah.
- An old conversation that I've had.
- She has a way to shift the mood quickly,
and make people forget about why they were concerned
in the first place.
By always turning it around,
she's never had to take responsibility.
But, race and ethnicity is a big deal,
and it's a really big deal for women in science.
Success often comes with skin colour.
- A lot of these people
as scientists have been trained
to communicate in really neutral teams.
So how do we help them learn
to be more influential communicators?
I'm not gonna tell you folks how to do science.
What I know about the scientific method,
you could ride on the back of a postage stamp.
I do know if you want to move from doing rigorous science,
to having impact and influence.
If you wanna enrol people to your cause,
you need to connect to their emotions.
It turns out if you help people understand learning styles,
it can make them way better communicators.
And you have a degree of preference
to put you primarily in one of those four quadrants.
I'm sorry, but a whale just jumped out of the water
on the left hand side.
- Faculty.
- Oh my gosh!
There's a whale. Come on, lets all just look at the whale.
- Oh I see it.
- Oh!
- For the emotional intelligence assessment,
I was really shocked to find out I'm emotionally retarded.
I ranked lower on recognition of people emotions.
Fair to say the faces are western faces,
I don't know if that plays any role.
- I was really looking forward to format,
to do format explanations,
but I was a bit disappointed because I didn't learn much.
I found Marshall much less powerful than Fabian
which is difficult to achieve anyway.
And quite long especially with all the whales outside,
it was difficult to keep us focused.
- They keep us on their toes
would be probably a statement.
You're not gonna get away with anything.
I've got this great habit of saying,
"Studies show that,"
and, "There are statistics to a test that."
And in a normal programme,
people say, "Alright, he's got an honest face.
"Sounds plausible.
"I'll go with that."
Not with this group.
They wanna know who said it,
when, in what peer reviewed article.
So, yeah, you've gotta...
They keep you on your toes.
- The whole problem for me of all this
is that, as scientists, we work on facts
and we need solutions, clear, easy to grasp solutions.
I don't know where to start,
because I was quite disappointed in my results.
I'll show them to you just now.
I have quite much lower score than I expected.
So, I need things to be very organised,
and pragmatic and clear.
- Yeah. - And like facts.
And, what I found difficult, for all of this,
is to really say, "Okay, you have this problem,
"you need to do this.
"You have this problem, you need to do this."
And it's much more blurry.
- Do you have any sense
of where that may have originated, like...
- Oh, yeah, definitely.
- Yeah?
- It's clearly that I want to be perfect in everything.
- Yeah.
- And to see that it's working.
- Yeah. - It's hard to admit,
but I think that's it, yeah.
I don't know if I want to let it go.
- We've got a hypothesis, that people may go into science
because it's more introverted space.
I don't have to deal with the world.
I can just be very focused and do my thing.
Which means, that if I've had stuff
done in my childhood,
it's packed rather than processed.
And so here we are
in a potboiler environment dealing with it.
Why do you go into science?
Is it a place where you feel safe,
where you can actually settle
into using your great intellect,
and created a boundary of safety around you?
So both Marshall and I
have done quite literally thousands of these.
And this is one of the most complex groups I've ever seen.
Some of you are behaving in the world today,
using the same strategies you used as a child,
to defend yourself.
- I think the problem at the moment
is the faculty doesn't know their audience.
There is a real disconnect
between people who are working in a commercial field,
and who are usually dealing with corporates
and then now they're trying to talk to women scientists,
highly educated audience.
And faculty actually can't answer their questions.
- You know I've been in leisure practise for a long time.
I have, you know 35 different technical accreditations,
diagnostic accreditations.
I'm a diagnostic specialist.
So, you know, I understand how people tick.
What are the characteristics of a leader you want,
that would bring the best of out on you?
At or above the 50th percentile in blue
is what everybody wants.
All people blossom in a more constructive culture.
- According to the diagnostics, being assertive
and not letting my emotions get to me
and expecting others to pull their own weights,
all of the things that I saw as strengths,
are actually extreme weaknesses.
Today, I felt more offended than supported.
- The minute you feel offended, Anne feels offended,
she is not intellectually or emotionally flexible.
And the leader who is most behaviorally flexible,
is the leader who will go on to get the greatest outcomes.
I was thinking maybe just knowing who you are
makes you a better leader,
but I was hoping it was a little bit deeper than that.
- To know what you stand for, what is important to you
is a pricelessly valuable piece of knowledge.
It's a pillar that holds you as a human being.
And, if you can do that for yourself,
you will begin to understand what it means
in an organisational setting.
- Right now, what we're learning
feels very touchy feely to me.
There definitely needs to be more tactical
and applicable skills being learned
within the leadership programme
and how we can go about changing that structure
that is so poisonous
to women staying in STEMM.
- Choose a story,
that links most with this sense of vision
that you're starting to create for yourself,
starting to make sense of your past,
that's not gonna hold you back anymore.
It's going to connect you with what you wanna do
for yourself and for the wider world in the future.
- Meredith, go.
- At the age of 21, I announced to my mum
that I was saying goodbye to law school,
a boyfriend and a life in Chicago
to do feminism full-time in Australia.
- Woo hoo!
- In choosing to leave the familiar behind,
I empowered myself to forge a path on my own
as an independent woman and as a researcher.
At 36, I know that living a feminist life
is the most important and the bravest decision
I'll ever make.
Whoa.
Because it allows me to see what others don't,
say what others won't and to challenge myself and others
to fight for the changes that we wanna see in the world.
The end.
- It's always a good sign
when your own story makes you cry.
- So, the fear is we think we're gonna be judged if we cry.
And my theory is, that's why you live seven years longer
than most of your blokes.
And it's one of our greatest assets,
is we feel this stuff and it's not a game,
we feel it.
- Women crying in the workplace,
is very rarely received by others as positive.
And it actually sets women back.
- You should not fit yourself
into the current leadership model.
You have to change the current leadership model.
- I just wanna say that I don't personally like the way
that this conversation is going with that.
We need to be in leadership positions
because we express emotion.
We're not all the same, so.
- We've had many, many private discussions with pods of them
about how much they'd been told not to tell how they feel.
There's no space for feeling in science.
That's a certain madness.
That excludes one of the biggest contributions women make.
- Isn't that gorgeous?
It looks like frosting.
It just looks so delicious.
I'm gonna look at it.
Ugh, you can look at the door.
I found today really tough.
There was too much talking, not enough action.
I guess that's the point on the ship.
But fucking talk, before and after
I was gonna fucking shoot myself or the rest of them,
by the end of the last bit.
So I almost walked out,
but my sense of duty and not rocking the boat, made me stay.
I was just ready to go.
And, now I am out
and I want to enjoy Antarctica's beauty
in all honestly 'cause it is fucking magnificent.
Look at that.
- If Antarctica was not here,
this would be a crying pile of women.
I even cried in public.
- How did that happen by the way?
- I don't know.
I drank the Kool-Aid.
- Now we have an understanding of why we do what we do
and what are the constructive leadership styles.
We're all buoyed up by hope
in that we can change the world.
I feel like I need some kind of practical tool as well.
- People have the impression
that when they leave the ship...
They're feeling high.
- Change the world. - "I'm gonna change the world,
"this is awesome."
And then they go back to work on Monday,
and it's like, "Oh yeah.
"There's like professor, Joe Blow,
"who's a real asshole
"and he's still an asshole."
- Yeah. - Because you still face
that stuff if you apply for promotion, if you...
All the normal milestones
that you go through as an academic,
applied for grants, whatever,
none of those things are gonna change right now.
It's a much bigger question.
It goes way beyond women just doing leadership
development courses.
Fabian can start a movement
about individuals enhancing their capacities to lead.
That's actually not gonna change anything
when it comes to gender equity in STEMM.
That's just about individual women
making their lives better.
It's not about making anything better
for all women's scientists.
I'm so frustrated
with a lack of attention to the big questions
that I wanna talk about around gender and diversity.
- Can I ask you something, Meredith?
When do you think your perfectionism pings off?
What will cause it to fire off?
How does it show up?
- The point was that my perfectionistic tendencies,
translated into the interaction last night.
- I don't know, I'm asking... - No, but that's
what you said.
- No, I'm asking.
I'm posing it as a question
not make it a statement at all.
- I'm not sure I feel like that's fair.
- I'm not offering a judgement.
I posed a question.
Somewhere in your head you went to that feels unfair,
because it felt like maybe I was judging.
I'm not judging you at all, not even remotely.
So, can you pick the pinch point that could be it.
It could be a trivial example of it.
That's all.
- Happy chatting.
- Yeah.
If you don't treat people with respect
and you don't value what they bring to the table,
then these women have no incentive
to help Homeward Bound in it's movement forward.
- If you're unhappy with anything that you see in this,
just be so safe coming to myself or a member of the faculty
and just saying, "You know what,
"I absolutely get your intention on it
"but I'm wondering if that actually worked,"
which is a suggestion on the table.
Then it'll go into the notebook.
We trust you, we absolutely trust your voices.
- The main issue
is that a lot of people feel like Fabian
has been verbally harassing them
in front of the rest of the group and vilifying them a bit.
So it's a number of different people
and women on board, who have felt that way.
And, enough is enough,
if this was a guy,
we would have been confronting it a while ago
so, why aren't we doing it because it's a woman?
It seems a bit ridiculous,
especially given where we are
and what we're trying to learn about.
- Sometimes people are aggressive.
Some type of people do things to humiliate people.
I'm not one of those people.
Some people are often dealing with stuff in their life
where a parent was very aggressive,
did put them down a lot.
And they've got to step out of that
to see it's not happening now.
And if you facilitate that yourself,
do you see that it might help you?
- Yeah.
I know it's just figuring out how to go about it.
That would be incredible.
- So the thing is you actually don't have to overthink it.
You have to ask a question, that's all you have to do.
And there's a certain magic happens.
So, you just simply got to stay calm.
Don't second guess them, which is your own journey.
Don't worry about them.
Don't worry about their judgement of you.
Simply get three stories and watch what happens.
- I'm obviously a bit of the repository,
either apparent figure
or a leader figure that they struggle with.
So, I've had far more feedback in this
than I've ever had before about the way I speak,
the way I behave,
I've had a couple recently
as things as alien to me
as a possibility of humiliating someone or pushing them.
Now, I would no more do that than fly to the moon.
So instead of being able
to deal with a situation constructively,
they slip back into their story,
and their story dictates what they see.
Now if I can turn that, that's an insane lesson.
Because if you carry your story into a context,
you'll project something that isn't there.
By now,
the clever ones amongst you,
will be digesting that you're in the presence
of a lot of leadership experts.
And we are watching and observing you,
talking to you, picking up stories,
giving more feedback
about other people's behaviour from individuals,
than seems as humanly possible.
We've had lots of great feedback,
lots of great feedback,
about other people.
Now we're gonna have a lot of feedback about you.
And you know what the data tells us,
one in three women have experienced some form of abuse.
If you come from Australia, the data's worse.
So this is not a pretty story,
but it's about letting it go.
- Fabian's whole point
is to delve into someone's psychology,
to make more effective leaders.
Two women now have actually had...
One we know has had a psychological break
and one is extremely distressed
by some of the circumstances of her past
that have re-emerged as part of this process.
- Massive low light was seeing a friend
in just the worst emotional state I've ever...
Like almost ever seen anyone.
And she basically went into shock,
and I haven't...
I've talked to her since, but she has...
Yeah, we were in public.
We were in public all the time.
It's exhausting, it's fucking exhausting.
There's always someone around listening.
And I'm not sure what triggered it,
but the faculty said they were aware that it was coming.
So, I don't know.
- You know without a psychology background,
I think that we start to raise some ethical
and moral issues around,
asking people to delve deeply into their past
without any support structures
or any licenced therapists who can deal with people
who are deeply distressed.
- Marshall, myself and Jules,
between us probably have 70 years of experience
at doing this significantly more qualified,
than your average clinical psychomythology
around clinical psychology of any clinical sites
will finish with an understanding,
and now they have to do the practise.
- That's the size of a small building
and it's going up and down, three, four metres.
The foot of it is being worn away by the current.
And they start to rock, and then they flipped.
But, you know, it might take half a day,
or might do it in five minutes time.
That whole arch is above the open being.
But it won't stand too much as everyone knows.
- When you're setting yourself up to be a role model
in a leadership programme,
and you're pushing people to think and be self-reflective,
they're gonna push back on you
and say, "Well, how about you?
"Are you being that role model?"
- My sense is that from watching Fabian
from the start of the week to the end of the week,
I think that she maybe herself realised
that she does not have the capacity to manage
what has come up.
- Pretty disappointed.
I don't think I have ever lost my...
My voice ever.
- By day 10, I was starting to feel
just as I was about to start the strategy programme.
I might've had enough.
It might be too long this 20 day programme.
However, we're on day 15,
and everybody's starting to feel we don't have enough time.
So in the original plan, I had eight, two hour slots
which would be 16 hours.
I think I've done four hours,
because Fabian literature piece was taking longer.
We've cut so much out of strategy.
- We cut so much out of everything.
- I haven't had time to actually start addressing the issue
of what kind of goals you set.
- The whole of you can have no freaking idea
what we're even talking about.
- So they know where to plug it.
- He has to pull us from up there.
- We've done it. - Hit the pause button.
- We are missing the key part of the integration.
We've heard you put it all together
in the personal strategy then.
- What's the outcome?
- This whole programme design,
has flipping worked.
- Look who got a total pull up.
- I do feel like there's a need for strategy
just from the conversation I've had.
And even just blogs I'm getting every day,
it's like, "How are we gonna implement this?
"And what are we're gonna do?"
In a meeting where a certain perspective is not shared,
then do I push myself in saying something
that might not be comfortable for other people,
those times I remind myself, "Okay, you need to step up."
And that's when I think I'm a leader.
- I've got meeting fatigue,
I need to... - I'm gonna too, this is just
not very helpful. - Wait, the diversity piece
I thought it would come out here.
- Hi Faby. - Hi bro Joe.
- Alright now.
- Everybody has a plan till you get punched in the face.
And we got punched in the face from day one.
I always go back to the faculty meeting,
where we laid out this
in Fabian's language,
"Insane," programme.
- I'm pretty fast walk away, I tell you.
You know I've always been good at that.
There will be a point where I just go, "No, couldn't do it."
And I came close again to that last night,
because I thought we had turned a corner
and then in faculty meeting,
it felt like it went south again.
- It's important to have a visionary,
but also a good leader should be able to really listen.
There is a fundamental slot
to always have just one leader for any project.
There could be a blind spot about the cells
and whether the individual, the leader is self-aware enough.
- Thanks guys.
So here a journey is the story of ordinary people
called to an extraordinary journey.
And at some stages you journey out,
you get onto the road of trials.
Things are never quite as easy as you imagined
and the road is rough,
and the path is rocky and...
- We are surrounded by whales
and have been for a little bit of time.
If you see a whale in the next three minutes,
just take a breath and then hold on fine.
'Cause we have actually got an important message for you.
The ride of trials is paved with whales.
But you're not on a training programme, folks,
you're on a leadership initiative.
And the test of our leadership
is not actually when things are going really well.
The test of our leadership capabilities
is when things are a bit sticky.
And so together,
we're gonna work out how to make this something
that is so special,
it creates and then leaves an enduring legacy.
And you were the first 76 of a 1000.
So, manage your energy,
manage your conversations,
give yourselves a round of applause for being here.
- Good.
- It's only coming to in end in 24 hours,
eight minutes and 32 seconds.
No, I'm not counting the time.
Probably just a little fucking bit.
- Do you think
that you will get anything out of it personally?
- I do, and I think despite some of the problems
with the content,
I think that women are gonna come away with a lot.
Nevertheless, because they've had this opportunity
to experience being with the most women scientists
you've ever seen in your life,
that's a kinda mind blowing perspective.
- There were very divergent views
about what's worked, what hasn't worked
and everyone in the room
has a very different level of comfort with what feels safe
depending on who's in or out of the room.
Some wanted to have that discussion separately,
others wanted to include the faculty.
Anyone who would like to go down
into the faculty room, please do so,
there aren't many participants down there.
- Some people felt
that they were unable to say something
in front of the faculty.
That worries me, because that's the whole purpose
of what we've been doing,
is to get you into a place where you feel safe.
- So for now, we're going to ask the groups
to come back and chat in plenary.
- Do I get from accurate version.
- Okay, let's get into it.
- What did not work?
A lack of content on challenges
specifically for women in STEMM?
- The one thing we would like to propose,
is to have a new facilitator for the whole voyage.
So, that can be done easily too.
- For two years, it's been loving,
collaborative, purposeful.
It's been an amoeba, that's grown exponentially.
And it's coming to this environment,
and it's all made smaller a little more mean-spirited.
Now, I've got to not feel that way.
I've gotta not react that way.
So, there's been a couple of times
where I thought, "Jesus fucking Christ!
"Would somebody just come and say thank you?"
- Quick notice around the ship.
The next stage of your transformation.
The transformation is almost complete actually.
We've just gone North of 60 degrees South
so you're politically out of Antarctic.
But, we're probably biologically still in the cold waters.
We don't believe we've quite crossed
the Antarctic convergency.
- This experience has been both trying
and exhilarating and phenomenal,
eye opening.
And I'm not gonna say life-changing yet.
We'll see how everything we've learned goes over
when I get home.
- Dry land.
- I'm really excited.
It's been a long strange trip over the last 20 days.
- It's been hard, but also really powerful
because, I feel that I'm not alone.
It's of huge, global movement of women in science
that is happening now.
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- I'm feeling really good.
Positive about the future.
Looking forward to things.
So go, actions stations.
- About three months after we returned
I was going to the video diaries from my study,
and my research assistant and I, Robin,
found a video from one of the women on the ship
who filmed herself crying
about five minutes
after one of the crew members came to her door
and tried to assault her.
So we immediately emailed this woman
and said, "We just watched your video,
"are you okay, can we do anything?"
She said, she had told one of the faculty members
at the time about this incident,
and was happy just talking to the faculty member,
getting support, and then that was the end of it.
But it was around the time
that the "Grist" article came out.
- We were obviously really shocked,
because this was a totally different person
with a totally different crew member.
But also this particular woman,
did not want to be identified.
And the "Grist" article effectively suggests
she did not give consent
and that she believes she had sex
with one of the male crew members.
- It was a tough story.
It was not accurate on many, many, many counts.
And yet, you know, my heart says,
where there was smoke, there was fire.
So, did something happen?
- I was so sad that this had happened to her,
because every single woman has these stories.
As you can see,
it's a very emotional thing that we go through
and getting the support of other women.
And getting the support of men importantly,
and being believed is a really big deal.
So that we can recognise that it is a systemic problem.
Even though we're on the ship
and it was all about female solidarity
and women's leadership
and supporting each other, even in that environment,
sexual assault and sexual harassment can still happen.
I mean, it indicative of the world that we live in
and how much more there is to do.
- So there were huge reviews,
many, many alumni involved in giving feedback,
massive like 61 changes were made.
We now have a clinical psychologist and a psychiatrist
as part of the health team.
Reporting lines, so in the event of something happening
that is untold or not expected, not what you want,
you know who to go to and when and how.
- I'm increasingly optimistic about Homeward Bound.
Because what we learned,
it helped improve the next voyage.
And we have this cohort of women around the world,
who are doing amazing things in science
and living that mission of supporting other women in STEMM.
- During Homeward Bound, basically I got the chance
to show all other Chinese,
what Antarctica is about,
why this place is so important,
and how it's connected to our everyday life.
And I decided to launch a new venture, WildBound.
And we're hoping to cultivate the little scientists,
the little biologists, the little geologists
and especially little girls.
Right now, we have a mining hold on Antarctica
that we won't mine Antarctica until 2048.
And by then, everything will be renegotiated.
So I think educating children of 2048,
will be the decision maker of that day
will be really important.
- Probably doing a hundred base per regions.
- At the ends of each chromosome
are really, really separate.
When the report came out, the gender pay gap in science
was bigger than any other industry in Australia,
it was like, well I'd better start changing the stats.
You go, you go, girl.
You go ask for that pay rise.
I argued for the seniority,
and then they called me
and asked if this pay was acceptable.
And, I almost squealed.
Don't say anything, okay.
Put the phone down.
I'm heading up the molecular biology side of our lab.
I'm really enjoying the idea
that I can direct some of the research here.
We look at how the genetics of people
affect whether you can treat them for malaria
in populations that are very resourceful
in Cambodia, Thailand, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea.
And so often this kind of high-tech sequencing
hasn't been done with those populations.
- It's nice that Sarah's in a good senior scientist role.
That would have been helped a long by Homeward Bound.
- Yeah, I'm much more confident to be ambitious
in what I want to do,
just to be proud of it.
I'm happy with who I am and how I am,
I don't have to worry so much about what other people think.
And I can just go for it.
- After 11 years,
I finally got a permanent job in soil science.
And it includes some really exciting research
here in Indonesia.
Before I started working on this project,
I assumed that the Southeast Asian haze
was traffic smoke, industrial smoke.
It's actually peat burning.
The Mega Rice Project installed this amazing network
of canals, pulling water out of the system,
so that they could grow rice.
Instead they've caused this catastrophic situation,
where the peat catches on fire again and again.
Because the burn is much slower
than when a forest is burning,
we get incomplete combustion
and really noxious, toxic gases coming out of the peat.
It's crucial to work with the locals on this,
because they are experiencing devastating health effects
as a result of those fires.
I feel like this project
has the potential to have a big impact,
and I really wanna be out here
do research that makes a difference.
And I get to get dirty every single time.
- When Deborah came back from Homeward Bound,
she was almost a new person.
Well, she was always very energetic,
and always wanting to do one million things
when you only have time to do 10.
And now it wasn't only one million but 10 million.
- Since I've done Homeward Bound,
if the people I'm working with are not happy
with me having a second baby,
then I'm not happy working with them.
That's as simple as that.
I'm challenging myself to reinvent myself
not only being a scientist,
but being an entrepreneur,
bridging science with the rest of the world,
fighting for the best of the environment,
and the society at the same time.
Homeward Bound it's the key.
We are always in touch on social media
whenever one has a question,
everybody answers in 24 hours
based on the full day around the world.
In 10 years, I can't imagine the strength
of the network we will have.
And I can't even predict the things we'll be able to do.
- The second group of women returned from Antarctica
in March, 2018
and the third group will go in December this year.
- So we're up to 500 of the target of a 1000.
The fourth voyage is just about to go,
the fifth voyage is pending.
We have 48 nationalities and 36 sciences.
It's just grown exponentially.
And it grew off the back of that first,
what I would call deeply disrupted pot stirring
that happened at the end of the first programme.
I had to face who I was as a leader.
And, I think that I saw things
that I didn't like about who I was.
I must have been terrifying and overwhelming and bossy.
And.
So, way too much.
And I learned some really basic stuff in this.
I'm a very tactile person
and I had to learn just don't assume that.
Talk slower.
Australians swear a lot.
Don't swear.
Be more aware of how other people will respond to you,
if we're to be genuinely inclusive.
So, I'm not pretending
that there aren't times when I want to be a pirate.
But it's not okay if I'm a leader in amongst many,
that's not okay.
And I think we need that globally.
I think we need that mindset.
It's okay to make mistakes.
It's not end of days.
It's okay not to be everything that you want to be.
It's okay for me not to like parts of how I come across.
So, change it Faby.
When I had that realisation,
I felt less awkward about this film.
Less like, "Oh my God, I'm such a horrible leader.
"Oh, I look like a man."
To, no it's okay, keep going.
That's what we're gonna do
is to just have to be brave.
Keep going.
I've let go of the need to be something
to feel that if I didn't force it through,
it wouldn't happen
to begin to trust
when everyone's bought into the same ambition,
now you can let people take their part in the dance.
So, we have this wonderful woman on
who is now lead facilitator.
So it's the letting go I'm proud of.
Half of the faculty are alumni.
Because no one person who cant do this.
It's stupid.
The world is in such a perilous state.
It needs all of us on deck,
giving the best we can
to generate the solutions our species needs.
That's what Homeward Bound is.
It's ordinary heroes, trying to do something extraordinary.
It's not a revolution,
but it's a mighty evolution
of how we lead.