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[chattering]

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- [Man] I guess turning on
the AC would be impossible.

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- [Cameraman] That brown
leather thing is...

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- [Soundman] Marker.
[beep]

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[clapperboard clapping]

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- My hair okay?

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- [Director] Yeah

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[clap]

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- Uh...

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- This is a lovely room.

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This is one of the
best for an interview.

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And it's the people's house,
so we might as well use it.

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[clapping]

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- We are on the fourth floor
of the New York Times building.

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- Stupid is what stupid does,
as Forest Gump says, right?

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- Is this fake news?

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[woman laughs]

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- This is not a complete
dumper on him, right?

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- Check one, two, three.
Check one, two, three.

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Check one, two, three, four.

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- I dare you to put
this in the documentary.

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- [Director] I
might give it a go.

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- Tensions beginning
to run high. [chuckles]

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- Run the tape back.

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[tape rewinding]

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[clapping]

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- [Man] We're getting started!

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- You tell me when you're
ready. I'm always ready.

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- Well, like most people,
I didn't take it seriously.

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- When the entire country
was laughing at him,

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they were mocking him...

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- Donald Trump has been saying

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that he will run for
president as a Republican,

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which is surprising,
since I just assumed

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he was running as a joke.

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[crowd laughing]

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- There was just no
serious thought given

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to him as a candidate.

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- It's obvious that
the Republicans think

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Trump's gonna lose.

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- Well, I can imagine it
in a Saturday Night skit.

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- Utterly unqualified

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- He's an embarrassment
to this country.

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- Hillary belongs
in the White House.

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Trump belongs on my show.

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- Right now we have
Hillary as about a 75

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or an 80% favorite.

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We have different versions

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of the forecast.
- That high?

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- You're not gonna be
president. All right?

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[audience laughing]

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- So discombobulated.
So unconventional.

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- This is a joke, and
it's an absurdity.

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- Donald Trump will
never be elected

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President of the United States.

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- I don't think there's
any way that Donald Trump

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gets elected President
of the United States.

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- Donald Trump is not
gonna be President

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of the United States.

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- You know, you guys
sound like two kittens

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sitting on a train track,
looking down at a train,

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thinking, "That train
got a little bit bigger

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a few seconds ago, but
I'm sure it's gonna stop.

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Hey, it got a little bit bigger,

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but no way it's
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Hey, it-"

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Splat.

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Listen, if something is
getting bigger and bigger

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and bigger every day,

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it's probably going to
continue doing that.

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- 2015 U.S. was really a space
of more than one America.

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- [Reporter] Breaking
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from Charleston, South Carolina,

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where there are reports that
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in a shooting at a church.

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- We as a country will have
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that this type of mass
violence does not happen

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in other advanced countries.

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- There was this growing gap

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between rich and poor Americans

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and it was really one
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facing the country.

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- Sometimes I just don't
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and I live eating a meal a day.

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- We automated away

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four million manufacturing jobs

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in Michigan Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

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and those communities
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- Today, we can say
in no uncertain terms

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we've made our union
a little more perfect.

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- [Reporter] Orlando
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of the worst mass shooting
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[train creaking]

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[crowd cheering]

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[crowd shouting]

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- You killed that man!

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- Huge country, 340 million
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but pretty distinct
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and drastically different
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So you had people
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with the performance
of President Obama.

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- And that was a
winning campaign.

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You just felt-

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Millions of people at these
rallies, every age, every race.

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You felt the swell of excitement

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about this historic candidacy.

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- It was a creed written
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that declared the
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Yes, we can.

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[crowd cheering]

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There was just incredible
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enthusiasm very rarely
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He offered a message
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that electrified
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and they turned out in
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- And CNN can now project that
Barack Obama, 47 years old,

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and will become the president
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[crowd cheering]

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- Walking down the street,

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people were just
screaming, "Obama!"

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- What Republican voters
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was that Barack
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that he had set out
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and he did, and he wrecked it.

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- You had a few
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that were starting to maybe look

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for a way to coalesce
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to replace president Obama,
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- I think Liberals
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were both looking for someone
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for the issues
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Obama pushed this
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Are you gonna keep that ground?

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Or are you gonna
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And to just elect somebody
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and be kind of a caretaker
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No way. Nobody wanted that.

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[crowd cheering]

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- Hello, Iowa!

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[crowd cheering]

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I'm back!

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[crowd cheering]

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- Well, what Democrats
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was that Barack Obama
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the composition
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This ascendant coalition
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of Latinos, of women,
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was going to turn out in
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for president Obama's
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- The Democratic party was like,

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"You know what we should do?"

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Hillary Clinton.

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- Hillary Clinton.
- Hillary Clinton.

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- Hillary Clinton.

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She is running for president.
- I am running for president.

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- This was like the
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of Hillary Clinton.

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Most people had already
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and that's hard to change.

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- There had never
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in the history of
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who had been as famous for
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- She's always prepared, she
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and she works very, very hard

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not to make a story of herself.

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- Has had 25 years to figure
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All the money in the world.

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All the smartest
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And it was inevitable.

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There was no way that
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the idea that she'd be the
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Those segments
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that Hillary Clinton
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I don't mean like 90-to-10 or
85-to-15. Every one of them.

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- It was all math and no poetry.

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It was all about
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building this Hillary coalition.

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And I thought, well, maybe
this is just how Hillary wins.

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Sort of a dreary,
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- And that kind of canned
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over work-shopped by a
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that's what people are tired of.

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People are tired of being
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They want something that
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even if that real person
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- I don't believe he
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when he declared his candidacy.

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- When he came down those
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I did not think he was
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I thought it was all
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- This was a marketing exercise.

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This was a yolo campaign.

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Even if he lost, he'd win,

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because he'd raise his
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- I think his
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"I'll do well and do better

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than people initially
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which was a smart bet,

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"And I'll increased my brand
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- I think he intended to
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about Donald Trump.

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- Wow.
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Whoa!

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That is some group
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- I think he was
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and thought, "How
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Oh, I want to go out in
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And what better vehicle
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than a presidential campaign?

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I am officially running...

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[crowd cheering]

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for President of
the United States...

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[audience cheering]

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and we are going to make...

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our country great again!

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- It's something that's been
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for a long time.

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- Could the Manhattan magnate
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or is he just calling a bluff?

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- As early as 2000, he
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of running for president.

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- I think that nobody's
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The Democrats are too far left.

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The Republicans
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- He was thinking
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- This sounds like political,
presidential talk to me.

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- I do get tired of
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with this country,
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I would never want to
rule it out totally.

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- He talked about running
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- Do you have a vice
presidential candidate in mind?

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- Well, I really haven't
gotten quite there yet.

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- He came very, very
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and people, I think, have
slightly forgotten that.

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He was front runner at
one stage in the polls.

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- Are you or are you not going
to run for the presidency?

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- I am seriously
thinking about it.

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Well, I am thinking about it,
but we'll see what happens.

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- And ended up
endorsing Mitt Romney

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and making a big show
of it in Las Vegas.

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[audience cheering]

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He was always
someone who, I think,

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as part of his showmanship,
felt that he deserved to be

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on the biggest
stage in the world.

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- The country is
doing very poorly.

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Our country is in
serious, serious trouble.

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The country is going to
hell in a handbasket.

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This country can not
continue to support Japan

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and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

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You look at what
China's doing to us,

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how they're just ripping
us left and right.

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They're taking our jobs.

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I'll bring back our jobs
from China, from Mexico,

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from Japan, from so many places.

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I'll bring back our jobs, and
I'll bring back our money.

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- I really believe
that this was a gimmick

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to get NBC to
raise up his salary

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and to keep "The Apprentice" on.

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- Well...

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- And I would bet
the farm on that.

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- [Interviewer] Some
say Donald Trump

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entered the race to win it.

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And the other half
say he entered

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to see where it took him.

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- He absolutely-

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And I talked to
him before he ran

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and talked to him
throughout the race.

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He absolutely ran to win it.

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And he also said,
we'll see how it goes.

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The usual political motivators

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that attend to people
running for president

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did not apply to Donald Trump:

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money, fame, position,
bankability, power.

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He had all that.

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He had a great life in New
York City. He's Donald Trump!

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- Think about the opening
of "The Apprentice".

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["The Apprentice" theme music]

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♪ Money money money money

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It's Donald Trump in a
helicopter narrating the scene

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as he approaches the
island of Manhattan

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and talks about what
a big deal he is.

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- New money, boorishness,
is quintessentially American

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From the Gold Rush, this
idea of striking it rich

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and celebrating it.

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There's no restraint.

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Trump lives like a rap star.

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- He is a master marketer
who had a celebrity resonance

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with the American people

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as a successful businessman
and a strong leader.

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[stark music]

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- This establishes for America

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that Donald Trump really is
the mogul he claims to be.

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Now, I say claims to be

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because he isn't the
mogul he claims to be.

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He's not nearly as
rich as he says he is.

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But it doesn't matter.

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This is a thing that he
intuits, but he also knows.

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He knows that the truth is
really beside the point.

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It's what are you selling,
and can you sell it,

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and will people buy it?

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In every case he
was selling himself,

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and that is the best preparation
possible for a politician.

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[overlapping shouts]

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- If you're a kind
of narcissist,

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where as long as your
name's being mentioned

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it really doesn't matter
if it's good or bad,

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if that's good for
your marketing campaign

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and building a larger brand.

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- Three weeks, when I started,

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I thought he was probably
born in this country,

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and now I really have a much
bigger doubt than I did before.

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- But based on what?
- And you know what?

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His grandmother in Kenya
said he was born in Kenya,

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and she was there and
witnessed the birth, okay?

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- I think he clearly saw
how the criticism of Obama

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got him traction as red meat
for the Republican base.

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- And I just say very simply,

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why doesn't he show
his birth certificate?

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Perhaps it's gonna say Hawaii.

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Perhaps it's gonna say Kenya.

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- Are you a birther, Donald?

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- Something on that
birth certificate

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- Oh my God!
- Oh, that's a terrible thing!

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- If you really don't like
what President Obama did,

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there certainly can be an
underlying racial resentment.

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[crowds shouting]

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The idea that his presence
was disproportionately good

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for non-white people, and thus
your status as a white person

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may be endangered
or in jeopardy.

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- He tapped into that group.

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Yeah, there are more things,
but race was a major issue,

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and people will say
it's not, but it was.

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He started chanting and,

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and the rhetoric was
shrill about race.

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- When Mexico sends its people,

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they're not sending their best.

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They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crime,

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they're rapists.

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And some, I assume,
are good people.

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- Remember, after Mitt
Romney lost in 2012,

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most of the Republican
establishment thought

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it was because he
alienated Hispanic voters

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with self-deportation.

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Kellyanne was one of
a very small group

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of Republican professionals

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who thought it was
actually the opposite,

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who thought that you could
take a populist message

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against immigration,
not more liberal,

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but more conservative
on immigration,

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and you could get not just
Republican primary voters

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but a lot of blue-collar,
white, working-class voters,

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particularly in the Rust
Belt, the upper Midwest.

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- I will build a great, great
wall on our southern border,

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and I will have Mexico
pay for that wall.

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Mark my words.

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[woman cheering]

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- Are you concerned about
alienating the Hispanic vote

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by saying that Mexico
is not our friend

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and we're building a wall?

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- If it's good for me or bad
for me, I don't think of that.

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I think of saying
the right thing.

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And people have to be
alerted to the fact

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that we are getting some
really bad characters

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coming into this country.

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- How can you succeed when
you say things like that?

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- Well, you can't-

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Again, Gayle, if
the question is,

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how can you become president,

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you can't by saying
things like that.

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- Are you racist?

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- I am the least racist
person that you have ever met.

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- He was fearless.

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When Donald Trump
denounces Mexicans,

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and people are outraged,

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and he loses the PGA
Championship from

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does he back down?

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No.

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He doubles down.

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- Donald J. Trump is
calling for a total

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and complete shutdown of Muslims
entering the United States

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until our country's
representatives

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can figure out what
the hell is going on.

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[audience cheering]

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- It is, in fact, the case

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that you have a big chunk
of racists in this country.

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But, worse than that, you
have a big chunk of people

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for whom racism is
not a disqualifier.

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And Trump understood that.

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- [Audience] Build that
wall, build that wall!

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- Build that wall, build
that wall, build that wall,

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00:18:19.315 --> 00:18:23.537
build that wall, build
that wall, build that wall,

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00:18:23.580 --> 00:18:26.627
build that wall,
build that wall!

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[intense music]

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- He realized this
wasn't about ideology.

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It was about who
was the angriest.

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It was about who was the
angriest at Obama, specifically,

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and who could embody that
anger the most authentically.

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And so it didn't
matter that he wasn't

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a conventional conservative
on all kinds of metrics.

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What the base was really
looking for was just,

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who could be the most
opposed to Barack Obama?

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- Were it not for the
transformative love

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of Jesus Christ?

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- What makes our country
exceptional? Faith and freedom.

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It's no exaggeration to say

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we're at the most critical
point in our nation's history.

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- The greatest nation
the world has ever known.

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- I see a great
country on the verge

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of its greatest century.

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- A new, American century.
Thank you, God bless you.

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[crowd cheering]

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God bless the United States.

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- Donald Trump was blessed

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with the biggest field in
modern Republican history.

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[intriguing electronic music]

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- Oh, there's no
doubt in my mind

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that the Trump
campaign was delighted

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by the fact that there were
so many other candidates.

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- This was possibly the
most qualified group

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of Republican
candidates in history.

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- Every single one
of them who ran

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thought there was
at least some chance

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that they could get
lightning in a bottle

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and win this thing.

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- Ted Cruz is my man.

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He fits the bill.

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- They thought that you
go out, you get your base,

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you're gonna fight
this out in the states.

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00:19:51.886 --> 00:19:54.018
Jeb Bush is gonna
get X constituency,

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00:19:54.062 --> 00:19:56.282
Rubio's gonna to get
this constituency,

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00:19:56.325 --> 00:19:57.718
and so forth and so on.

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[crowd cheering]

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- They were prepared and
responsible and ready to lead.

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00:20:02.244 --> 00:20:05.291
They were not prepared to play
the lowest common denominator

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every day to maximize attention.

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- So, along comes Donald Trump.

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00:20:11.253 --> 00:20:14.604
And what Donald Trump
understood is that-

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- Republicans were not looking
for the smartest candidate

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or the most
sophisticated candidate.

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They were looking for a gut
puncher, a street fighter.

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[crowd shouting]

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00:20:26.181 --> 00:20:27.878
- Rubio, total lightweight.

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And little mouth on
him. Bing, bing, bing.

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00:20:30.838 --> 00:20:34.145
- A con artist will never
get control of this party!

469
00:20:34.189 --> 00:20:36.800
- Jeb Bush is a
low energy person.

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00:20:36.844 --> 00:20:39.629
- I think Donald Trump is
trying to insult his way

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to the presidency, and
it's not gonna work.

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00:20:41.805 --> 00:20:45.461
- Do you believe Senator Ted
Cruz is a natural-born citizen?

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- I don't know, to be honest.

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- Donald Trump
alleges that my dad

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was involved in
assassinating JFK.

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00:20:51.902 --> 00:20:55.689
- And he's like this,
"And we will... [gasping]

477
00:20:55.732 --> 00:20:58.169
I need water. Help
me, I need water!"

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00:20:58.213 --> 00:21:00.302
- This man is a
pathological liar.

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00:21:00.346 --> 00:21:02.913
- And he knew that
all he had to do

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was seem different from
the typical Republican,

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00:21:06.177 --> 00:21:09.442
and he would naturally
draw the public's interest.

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[audience laughing]

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Unbelievable.

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- [Reporter] Trump's latest
poll numbers matching

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his larger-than-life
personality.

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In a reversal from when
he entered the race,

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Republicans increasingly
believe Trump has staying power.

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00:21:27.895 --> 00:21:30.854
But the question remains, can
Trump turn his poll numbers

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into actual votes?

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- Because his name
ID was so high,

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00:21:35.685 --> 00:21:38.601
because he was such a
spectacle from day one

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that, in a giant field,

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his name bumped to
the top of polling,

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and then it sort of
feeds off of itself,

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because, once he's the leader,

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00:21:47.262 --> 00:21:50.352
oh, maybe I'm maybe
I'm for the leader too.

497
00:21:50.396 --> 00:21:52.093
Yeah, sure, that sounds
interesting. Donald Trump.

498
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[stark music]

499
00:21:55.096 --> 00:21:59.405
- In reality television, the
villain is always the star.

500
00:21:59.448 --> 00:22:00.841
All the way back
to American idol.

501
00:22:00.884 --> 00:22:03.626
You know, Simon, he was rude
and mean. He's the star.

502
00:22:03.670 --> 00:22:06.629
That's a trope in reality TV.

503
00:22:06.673 --> 00:22:08.022
[crowd shouting]

504
00:22:08.065 --> 00:22:10.807
- Who would you rather
have negotiate with Iran?

505
00:22:10.851 --> 00:22:13.157
Trump or Jeb?

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00:22:13.201 --> 00:22:14.550
- [Audience] Trump!

507
00:22:14.594 --> 00:22:16.247
- But here's the
problem with Rubio.

508
00:22:16.291 --> 00:22:18.815
When you sweat that much.

509
00:22:18.859 --> 00:22:20.426
[audience laughing]

510
00:22:20.469 --> 00:22:22.253
"Hello. Hello.

511
00:22:22.297 --> 00:22:23.994
Can I have some water?"

512
00:22:24.038 --> 00:22:25.082
And Putin's sitting there,

513
00:22:25.126 --> 00:22:26.388
"What the hell kinda
stuff is this?"

514
00:22:26.432 --> 00:22:29.652
This is not exactly a
poker player, folks.

515
00:22:29.696 --> 00:22:32.002
Not exactly a poker player.

516
00:22:32.046 --> 00:22:34.918
She said, "I never expect to
hear that from you again."

517
00:22:34.962 --> 00:22:36.659
She said, "He's a
pussy." That's terrible.

518
00:22:36.703 --> 00:22:37.486
[audience yelling]

519
00:22:37.530 --> 00:22:38.357
Terrible.

520
00:22:43.318 --> 00:22:46.147
- He had this reality
TV experience,

521
00:22:46.190 --> 00:22:49.498
which I contend people
watch for the humor.

522
00:22:50.412 --> 00:22:54.634
It's not jokes, but they just
laugh at what's happening.

523
00:22:54.677 --> 00:22:59.595
I think that, with
Trump's candidacy,

524
00:22:59.639 --> 00:23:02.468
that the news became comedy.

525
00:23:02.511 --> 00:23:05.688
- This is a TV star
who knew how to work

526
00:23:05.732 --> 00:23:07.342
the medium of television.

527
00:23:07.386 --> 00:23:09.388
And because most of the
Republican candidates

528
00:23:09.431 --> 00:23:12.434
were cowed into thinking they
shouldn't expose themselves

529
00:23:12.478 --> 00:23:15.959
too much, Trump sucked
up all the airtime.

530
00:23:16.003 --> 00:23:17.570
- Why don't you
turn your camera?

531
00:23:17.613 --> 00:23:20.224
Show 'em how many people
come to these rallies.

532
00:23:20.268 --> 00:23:21.922
Turn 'em! Go ahead, turn 'em!

533
00:23:21.965 --> 00:23:22.749
[audience booing]

534
00:23:22.792 --> 00:23:23.576
Go ahead!

535
00:23:23.619 --> 00:23:26.622
[audience cheering]

536
00:23:33.324 --> 00:23:34.151
Brutal.

537
00:23:37.372 --> 00:23:38.895
- Immediately thought
that Donald Trump

538
00:23:38.939 --> 00:23:41.637
had climbed over the wall from
the world of entertainment

539
00:23:41.681 --> 00:23:43.465
into the world of politics.

540
00:23:43.509 --> 00:23:44.858
That's not what he did.

541
00:23:44.901 --> 00:23:47.774
He pulled the world of
politics over the wall

542
00:23:47.817 --> 00:23:49.428
into the world of entertainment.

543
00:23:50.994 --> 00:23:53.170
I'm Mike Huckabee. I'm
delighted to be on this stage.

544
00:23:53.214 --> 00:23:55.042
- I'm Jeb Bush, and
I believe America's

545
00:23:55.085 --> 00:23:56.783
on the verge of its
greatest century.

546
00:23:56.826 --> 00:23:58.306
- I'm Ted Cruz.

547
00:23:58.349 --> 00:24:00.874
I'm the son of an
Irish-Italian mom.

548
00:24:00.917 --> 00:24:02.615
- My wife, Jeanette, and
I are the proud parent.

549
00:24:02.658 --> 00:24:03.964
We've been married 17 years,

550
00:24:04.007 --> 00:24:05.879
and we're the proud
parents of four children.

551
00:24:05.922 --> 00:24:10.100
- I'm Donald Trump. I wrote
"The Art of the Deal."

552
00:24:10.144 --> 00:24:13.452
I say, not in a
braggadocious way,

553
00:24:13.495 --> 00:24:15.541
I've made billions and
billions of dollars

554
00:24:15.584 --> 00:24:17.673
dealing with people
all over the world.

555
00:24:17.717 --> 00:24:20.894
- The thing that makes
Trump the most unique

556
00:24:20.937 --> 00:24:24.027
is not any one element
of his personality,

557
00:24:24.071 --> 00:24:25.768
his skillset, his history.

558
00:24:25.812 --> 00:24:28.815
It's the lethal
combination of them.

559
00:24:28.858 --> 00:24:32.514
I've referred to this
as a talent stack,

560
00:24:32.558 --> 00:24:33.776
or, in this specific case,

561
00:24:33.820 --> 00:24:35.996
you could call it
a persuasion stack.

562
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.519
It's a bunch of skills that,

563
00:24:37.563 --> 00:24:38.955
if you put them together,

564
00:24:38.999 --> 00:24:41.480
you would say each of
these individual skills

565
00:24:41.523 --> 00:24:43.743
is not the best I've ever seen,

566
00:24:43.786 --> 00:24:46.572
but almost nobody
has this combination.

567
00:24:46.615 --> 00:24:47.442
[audience applauding]

568
00:24:47.486 --> 00:24:50.619
[soft electronic music]

569
00:24:50.663 --> 00:24:53.361
- Donald Trump took center
stage in that first debate

570
00:24:53.404 --> 00:24:56.364
in early August, 2015 and
never lost center stage.

571
00:24:56.407 --> 00:24:59.149
- Positioned on the stage by
how they stand in the polls.

572
00:24:59.193 --> 00:25:01.282
In the center of
the stage tonight,

573
00:25:01.325 --> 00:25:03.414
businessman Donald Trump.

574
00:25:03.458 --> 00:25:06.548
[audience cheering]

575
00:25:06.592 --> 00:25:08.419
- When Donald Trump
raised his hand and said

576
00:25:08.463 --> 00:25:10.900
that I might not support
the nominee, oh, I just...

577
00:25:10.944 --> 00:25:12.641
- Can I see hands?

578
00:25:12.685 --> 00:25:16.036
Who is unwilling tonight
to pledge your support

579
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.995
to the eventual nominee
of the Republican Party?

580
00:25:20.214 --> 00:25:20.997
[audience booing]

581
00:25:21.041 --> 00:25:21.868
Mr. Trump.

582
00:25:26.394 --> 00:25:29.615
- People aren't watching
these primary debates

583
00:25:29.658 --> 00:25:31.965
to really learn
about the candidate.

584
00:25:32.008 --> 00:25:33.706
It's a show. It's a TV show.

585
00:25:33.749 --> 00:25:36.143
[audience applauding]

586
00:25:36.186 --> 00:25:37.361
- Mr. Trump...

587
00:25:37.405 --> 00:25:39.886
- He was in this
situation with Megyn Kelly

588
00:25:39.929 --> 00:25:43.106
that I don't think anybody
could have escaped from

589
00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:47.328
If they were a standard
politician with a

590
00:25:47.371 --> 00:25:51.158
- You've called women you
don't like fat pigs, dogs,

591
00:25:51.201 --> 00:25:53.987
slobs, and disgusting animals.

592
00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:55.075
[audience laughing]

593
00:25:55.118 --> 00:25:55.815
Your Twitter account
lists several-

594
00:25:55.858 --> 00:25:57.164
- Only Rosie O'Donnell.

595
00:25:57.207 --> 00:25:58.818
[audience laughing]

596
00:25:58.861 --> 00:26:01.385
- [Moderator] No, it wasn't.

597
00:26:03.257 --> 00:26:07.174
- The Trump method is
not to deny everything.

598
00:26:07.217 --> 00:26:10.873
It's to own a little piece
of the terrible thing.

599
00:26:10.917 --> 00:26:12.571
- Everyone on stage
with him that night

600
00:26:12.614 --> 00:26:13.876
got the memo too late

601
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:15.443
that we were playing
a different game.

602
00:26:15.486 --> 00:26:18.577
- You had serious
policy debates in 1960.

603
00:26:18.620 --> 00:26:20.317
56 short years later,

604
00:26:20.361 --> 00:26:22.276
you don't have serious
policy debates anymore,

605
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.974
because the phone changed
everything, right?

606
00:26:25.018 --> 00:26:26.889
Because what happened is
the phone shortened up

607
00:26:26.933 --> 00:26:28.325
everybody's attention span.

608
00:26:28.369 --> 00:26:30.371
Trump understood
that, "I'm in this

609
00:26:30.414 --> 00:26:32.373
and I'm out of this
thing in 30 seconds.

610
00:26:32.416 --> 00:26:34.244
That's gonna show up on
everybody's media page.

611
00:26:34.288 --> 00:26:36.595
That's gonna show up on
soundbites in the news

612
00:26:36.638 --> 00:26:38.422
and I'm going to beat the guy
controlling the narrative.

613
00:26:38.466 --> 00:26:39.336
They're not."

614
00:26:39.380 --> 00:26:40.642
- We don't need a weak person

615
00:26:40.686 --> 00:26:42.688
being President of the
United States, okay?

616
00:26:42.731 --> 00:26:43.732
We don't need that.

617
00:26:43.776 --> 00:26:44.603
[audience booing]

618
00:26:44.646 --> 00:26:45.429
We don't need that.

619
00:26:45.473 --> 00:26:46.779
Nasty guy.

620
00:26:46.822 --> 00:26:48.215
Now I know why he doesn't
have one endorsement

621
00:26:48.258 --> 00:26:49.433
from any of his colleagues.

622
00:26:49.477 --> 00:26:50.870
- All right, John,
I get to respond.

623
00:26:50.913 --> 00:26:52.175
- [Moderator] Senator
Cruz, pick from the buffet.

624
00:26:52.219 --> 00:26:53.655
- Rand Paul shouldn't
even be on this stage.

625
00:26:53.699 --> 00:26:56.658
He's number 11. He's
got 1% in the polls.

626
00:26:56.702 --> 00:26:58.051
- I don't know.
- You're not beating Hillary.

627
00:26:58.094 --> 00:26:59.356
- Well, then, if I can't...

628
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:00.619
Hey, if I can't,
if can't beat her

629
00:27:00.662 --> 00:27:02.446
you're really gonna
get killed, aren't you?

630
00:27:02.490 --> 00:27:04.144
[audience shouting]

631
00:27:04.187 --> 00:27:05.406
So let me ask you this,

632
00:27:05.449 --> 00:27:06.581
'cause you're really
getting beaten badly.

633
00:27:06.625 --> 00:27:07.887
I know you're embarrassed.

634
00:27:07.930 --> 00:27:09.236
I know you're embarrassed,
but keep fighting.

635
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.673
Keep swinging, men.
Swing for the fences.

636
00:27:11.717 --> 00:27:13.457
Let me just tell you.
Let me just tell you..

637
00:27:13.501 --> 00:27:16.025
- I mean, they were all
ready for each other,

638
00:27:16.069 --> 00:27:17.287
but they weren't ready for him.

639
00:27:17.331 --> 00:27:19.507
Okay, he was like the
human wrecking ball.

640
00:27:19.550 --> 00:27:23.032
He was the Howard Stern of
presidential candidates.

641
00:27:23.076 --> 00:27:26.775
He was the first smash-mouth,
shock jock candidate.

642
00:27:26.819 --> 00:27:28.385
So he came in there
with his tongue.

643
00:27:28.429 --> 00:27:29.691
He used them as boxing fists.

644
00:27:29.735 --> 00:27:31.214
He was just boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom.

645
00:27:31.258 --> 00:27:32.041
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

646
00:27:32.085 --> 00:27:33.260
- Quiet.

647
00:27:33.303 --> 00:27:34.130
- And he's knocking
'em left and right,

648
00:27:34.174 --> 00:27:34.783
and they couldn't handle it.

649
00:27:34.827 --> 00:27:37.525
[audience booing]

650
00:27:39.658 --> 00:27:42.095
- That's all of his donors and
special interests out there.

651
00:27:42.138 --> 00:27:43.313
[Jeb laughing]

652
00:27:43.357 --> 00:27:44.140
So...

653
00:27:44.184 --> 00:27:45.446
[audience booing]

654
00:27:45.489 --> 00:27:48.144
Two days ago he said he
would take his pants off

655
00:27:48.188 --> 00:27:50.190
and moon everybody,
and that's fine.

656
00:27:50.233 --> 00:27:51.495
Nobody reports that.

657
00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:52.888
He gets up and says that.

658
00:27:52.932 --> 00:27:56.326
- Jeb's crowd, as you know,
right down the street.

659
00:27:56.370 --> 00:27:58.981
They're sleeping!
They're sleeping now.

660
00:27:59.025 --> 00:28:02.028
- There's a lot of technique
in the linguistic kill shot,

661
00:28:02.071 --> 00:28:02.855
as I call it.

662
00:28:02.898 --> 00:28:04.030
- He's very low energy.

663
00:28:04.073 --> 00:28:06.554
I'm not used to that
kind of a person.

664
00:28:06.597 --> 00:28:10.036
- If you looked at a Jeb
Bush before the nickname,

665
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.385
you probably thought what I did

666
00:28:11.428 --> 00:28:13.213
which was, hey,
this Jeb Bush guy

667
00:28:13.256 --> 00:28:18.261
looks like a real cool,
calm, even-headed leader.

668
00:28:18.740 --> 00:28:22.657
- But the moment that Trump
said he was low-energy,

669
00:28:22.701 --> 00:28:24.485
you couldn't unsee it.

670
00:28:24.528 --> 00:28:25.573
- Please clap.

671
00:28:25.616 --> 00:28:27.096
[audience applauding]

672
00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:28.968
- Simple fact is,
Donald, you cannot take-

673
00:28:29.011 --> 00:28:30.796
- More energy
tonight. I like that.

674
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.972
- And then he got
to "Lying Ted".

675
00:28:33.015 --> 00:28:35.496
Well, look at him.
He looks shifty

676
00:28:35.539 --> 00:28:36.584
- And he cleverly made it

677
00:28:36.627 --> 00:28:37.193
Lyin' with an
apostrophe, not a G.

678
00:28:39.282 --> 00:28:43.765
- L-Y-I-N-apostrophe Lyin' Ted!

679
00:28:43.809 --> 00:28:46.159
- And by the time he
did "Little Marco"...

680
00:28:46.202 --> 00:28:47.856
- Little Marco, Little Marco.

681
00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:48.683
[audience laughing]

682
00:28:48.727 --> 00:28:50.511
- I knew this stuff works.

683
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.298
- It was the idea that Trump
was assigning people names.

684
00:28:55.342 --> 00:28:57.648
That conveys a
sort of authority.

685
00:28:58.824 --> 00:29:00.434
- Don't worry about it,
Little Marco, I will.

686
00:29:00.477 --> 00:29:02.566
- All right, well
let's hear, Big...

687
00:29:02.610 --> 00:29:03.959
- Don't worry about it, Little-

688
00:29:04.003 --> 00:29:05.308
Don't worry about
it, Little Marco.

689
00:29:05.352 --> 00:29:06.570
- [Moderator] Gentlemen!

690
00:29:06.614 --> 00:29:07.789
Sometimes the only way
to deal with a bully

691
00:29:07.833 --> 00:29:09.704
is to knock him on his ass.

692
00:29:09.748 --> 00:29:11.793
- He's always calling
me Little Marco.

693
00:29:11.837 --> 00:29:13.273
And I'll admit, the guy,
he's taller than me.

694
00:29:13.316 --> 00:29:15.492
He's like 6'2", which is
why I don't understand

695
00:29:15.536 --> 00:29:18.147
why his hands are the size
of someone who's 5'2".

696
00:29:18.191 --> 00:29:21.194
Have you seen his hands?
They're like this.

697
00:29:22.543 --> 00:29:24.980
And you know what they say
about men with small hands...

698
00:29:25.024 --> 00:29:26.808
[audience gasping]

699
00:29:26.852 --> 00:29:30.812
- Everyone criticizes Rubio for
going dirty on Trump, right?

700
00:29:30.856 --> 00:29:34.207
Oh, he messed up his brand,
and that was never his brand.

701
00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:38.559
It was exactly that...
It was cringe-worthy.

702
00:29:38.602 --> 00:29:40.953
- He hit my hands. Nobody
has ever hit my hands.

703
00:29:40.996 --> 00:29:42.215
I've never heard of this one.

704
00:29:42.258 --> 00:29:44.304
Look at those hands.
Are they small hands?

705
00:29:44.347 --> 00:29:46.219
[audience laughing]

706
00:29:46.262 --> 00:29:48.134
And he referred to my hands,

707
00:29:48.177 --> 00:29:50.919
if they're small, something
else must be small.

708
00:29:50.963 --> 00:29:53.530
I guarantee you there's no
problem. I guarantee it.

709
00:29:53.574 --> 00:29:54.880
[audience laughing]

710
00:29:54.923 --> 00:29:56.055
- You have young children.

711
00:29:56.098 --> 00:29:57.665
Do you regret where
this has gone?

712
00:29:57.708 --> 00:29:59.145
- Look, I...

713
00:29:59.188 --> 00:30:01.103
I regret the way that campaign
has become, absolutely,

714
00:30:01.147 --> 00:30:03.279
because Donald Trump,
for the last year,

715
00:30:03.323 --> 00:30:05.151
has made it one of the
most vulgar spectacles

716
00:30:05.194 --> 00:30:07.109
in American political history.

717
00:30:07.153 --> 00:30:08.807
[overlapping shouts]

718
00:30:08.850 --> 00:30:12.549
- Trump ran through the
Republican field like a buzzsaw.

719
00:30:13.681 --> 00:30:15.814
- The Bush dynasty is done.

720
00:30:17.511 --> 00:30:20.470
There were Republicans
who were rising stars,

721
00:30:20.514 --> 00:30:21.732
whether you're talking
about a Chris Christie

722
00:30:21.776 --> 00:30:25.345
or a Marco Rubio, a Rick
Perry, who are done,

723
00:30:25.388 --> 00:30:27.826
done in American life.

724
00:30:28.783 --> 00:30:30.393
And then it got
to the Democrats.

725
00:30:30.437 --> 00:30:32.700
- Part of Hillary's whole
strategy in the primaries

726
00:30:32.743 --> 00:30:34.354
was to elevate
Trump to make sure

727
00:30:34.397 --> 00:30:36.051
that the media
took him seriously.

728
00:30:36.095 --> 00:30:38.010
- Now, some transformation
has happened,

729
00:30:38.053 --> 00:30:41.143
and Republicans, whether they
support Donald Trump or not,

730
00:30:41.187 --> 00:30:44.146
seem to think that he
really is their best chance

731
00:30:44.190 --> 00:30:47.280
of winning the general
election next November.

732
00:30:47.323 --> 00:30:49.151
- Anne, which
Republican candidate

733
00:30:49.195 --> 00:30:52.328
has the best chance at
winning the general election?

734
00:30:52.372 --> 00:30:55.462
- Of the declared ones,
right now Donald Trump.

735
00:30:55.505 --> 00:30:57.943
[audience laughing]

736
00:30:57.986 --> 00:31:00.554
- There was a feeling of
like the Clinton campaign

737
00:31:00.597 --> 00:31:03.383
felt like this is great.

738
00:31:03.426 --> 00:31:05.602
He'll destroy the
Republican Party

739
00:31:06.516 --> 00:31:10.738
and make it impossible
for a Republican to win.

740
00:31:10.781 --> 00:31:13.915
- Donald Trump's continue
ascent in the Republican Party

741
00:31:13.959 --> 00:31:17.310
could mean the end of the
Republican Party as we know it,

742
00:31:17.353 --> 00:31:19.921
that George W. Bush
could be the last

743
00:31:19.965 --> 00:31:22.097
elected Republican president.

744
00:31:22.141 --> 00:31:24.970
- The RNC apparatus...

745
00:31:25.013 --> 00:31:27.711
eventually panicked...

746
00:31:27.755 --> 00:31:30.018
at the idea of Donald
Trump being the nominee,

747
00:31:30.062 --> 00:31:32.803
and they started to be more
aggressive behind the scenes

748
00:31:32.847 --> 00:31:34.240
to try to derail it.

749
00:31:34.283 --> 00:31:37.765
If we Republicans choose
Donald Trump as our nominee,

750
00:31:37.808 --> 00:31:41.029
the prospects for a safe
and prosperous future

751
00:31:41.073 --> 00:31:42.248
are greatly diminished.

752
00:31:42.291 --> 00:31:43.423
- You can see how loyal he is.

753
00:31:43.466 --> 00:31:45.164
He was begging for
my endorsement.

754
00:31:46.034 --> 00:31:47.949
I could've said, "Mitt,
drop to your knees."

755
00:31:47.993 --> 00:31:51.126
He would have dropped to
his knees. He was begging!

756
00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:52.736
- We've confirmed
that both presidents

757
00:31:52.780 --> 00:31:55.914
George W. Bush and his
father George H.W. Bush

758
00:31:55.957 --> 00:31:58.612
will stay silent and
not endorse anyone.

759
00:31:58.655 --> 00:32:02.703
- He's a race baiting,
xenophobic, religious bigot.

760
00:32:03.573 --> 00:32:05.184
He doesn't represent my party.

761
00:32:05.227 --> 00:32:06.663
- They wanted him
to write checks.

762
00:32:06.707 --> 00:32:08.361
They viewed him as a donor.

763
00:32:08.404 --> 00:32:10.667
They did not view him
as a serious candidate.

764
00:32:10.711 --> 00:32:12.843
They viewed him as a
threat to everything

765
00:32:12.887 --> 00:32:15.107
that the RNC had
been working for.

766
00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:17.500
And what the RNC didn't realize

767
00:32:17.544 --> 00:32:19.938
is that the American people
could really have cared less

768
00:32:19.981 --> 00:32:21.635
what their point of view was.

769
00:32:21.678 --> 00:32:24.290
- CNN projects that Donald Trump

770
00:32:24.333 --> 00:32:27.989
will be the winner of the New
Hampshire Republican Primary.

771
00:32:28.033 --> 00:32:30.035
- Oh, wow!

772
00:32:30.078 --> 00:32:31.471
Wow, wow, wow.

773
00:32:31.514 --> 00:32:32.994
- [Reporter] Donald
Trump is the winner

774
00:32:33.038 --> 00:32:34.430
of the Nevada Caucuses.

775
00:32:34.474 --> 00:32:37.825
- We won with young.
We won with old.

776
00:32:37.868 --> 00:32:41.872
We won with highly educated.
We won with poorly educated.

777
00:32:41.916 --> 00:32:44.397
I love the poorly educated.

778
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.529
- [Reporter] A 22-point
margin in Alabama,

779
00:32:46.573 --> 00:32:49.054
14-point victory in
Tennessee and Georgia.

780
00:32:49.097 --> 00:32:50.359
- Yeah, baby!

781
00:32:50.403 --> 00:32:52.187
- [Reporter] Very big
nights for Donald Trump.

782
00:32:52.231 --> 00:32:53.319
- They got destroyed.

783
00:32:53.362 --> 00:32:55.321
Donald Trump, all
five states called

784
00:32:55.364 --> 00:32:57.366
relatively early in the night.

785
00:32:57.410 --> 00:33:00.979
- People thought that
Conservative values voters

786
00:33:01.022 --> 00:33:03.677
were gonna care more
about personal morality

787
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.375
than political and
policy alignment.

788
00:33:06.419 --> 00:33:07.898
And at the end of
the day, it turns out

789
00:33:07.942 --> 00:33:10.031
they don't care that much
about personal morality

790
00:33:10.075 --> 00:33:10.945
for their leaders.

791
00:33:10.989 --> 00:33:13.600
[audience cheering]

792
00:33:13.643 --> 00:33:16.255
- He exposes the fact
that it's not about ideas.

793
00:33:16.298 --> 00:33:17.430
It's about emotions.

794
00:33:17.473 --> 00:33:19.736
This is not about
actually ideology.

795
00:33:19.780 --> 00:33:22.478
It's, oh, you know,
he talks like me,

796
00:33:22.522 --> 00:33:25.264
he thinks like me, in some
cases he hates like me.

797
00:33:26.917 --> 00:33:29.703
They felt like the
two major parties

798
00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:33.750
had failed the country in
the most fundamental ways,

799
00:33:33.794 --> 00:33:35.578
and they simply
weren't listening,

800
00:33:35.622 --> 00:33:37.754
and they wanted
to find the person

801
00:33:37.798 --> 00:33:40.279
who could personify
their anguish

802
00:33:40.322 --> 00:33:41.715
about the country's future.

803
00:33:45.632 --> 00:33:47.808
[crowd cheering]

804
00:33:47.851 --> 00:33:51.507
- [Audience] Bernie,
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!

805
00:33:53.292 --> 00:33:55.207
- Well, look, nobody saw
Bernie Sanders coming,

806
00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:56.773
least of all the Hillary
Clinton campaign.

807
00:33:56.817 --> 00:33:58.775
And even Bernie Sanders
himself was surprised

808
00:33:58.819 --> 00:34:01.300
by how much traction he got.

809
00:34:01.343 --> 00:34:04.477
- [Announcer] Senator
Bernie Sanders!

810
00:34:04.520 --> 00:34:07.480
[audience cheering]

811
00:34:07.523 --> 00:34:10.526
- What this campaign
is about is creating

812
00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:13.834
a political
revolution in America.

813
00:34:13.877 --> 00:34:16.880
[audience cheering]

814
00:34:19.100 --> 00:34:21.102
- CNN projects
that Bernie Sanders

815
00:34:21.146 --> 00:34:24.801
will win the Wisconsin
Democratic Presidential Primary,

816
00:34:24.845 --> 00:34:26.368
beating Hillary Clinton.

817
00:34:26.412 --> 00:34:28.675
A big, big win for
Bernie Sanders.

818
00:34:28.718 --> 00:34:30.459
He won five of the
last six states.

819
00:34:30.503 --> 00:34:32.374
- We've now won, I
guess, nine states.

820
00:34:32.418 --> 00:34:34.333
And a lot more are yet to come.

821
00:34:34.376 --> 00:34:36.639
I think Bernie Sanders was...

822
00:34:36.683 --> 00:34:38.989
said a lot about
weaknesses in her candidacy

823
00:34:39.033 --> 00:34:40.861
that he gave her
such a hard run.

824
00:34:40.904 --> 00:34:44.778
- Her campaign refused
to take seriously

825
00:34:44.821 --> 00:34:47.433
that there had been an
insurgency in her party,

826
00:34:47.476 --> 00:34:51.828
and a 149 year old
socialist from Vermont

827
00:34:51.872 --> 00:34:55.963
who nobody ever heard of got
47% of the vote against her.

828
00:34:56.006 --> 00:34:59.749
She went to Michigan and
got beat to a bloody pulp

829
00:34:59.793 --> 00:35:01.142
by Bernie Sanders.

830
00:35:01.186 --> 00:35:04.014
That lets you know that
there's a problem for you

831
00:35:04.058 --> 00:35:05.799
in the industrial heartland.

832
00:35:05.842 --> 00:35:07.148
- The fact that he
was able to pull off

833
00:35:07.192 --> 00:35:09.324
that incredible
upset showed people

834
00:35:09.368 --> 00:35:13.241
that there is still a
very vocal constituency

835
00:35:13.285 --> 00:35:14.721
in the Democratic base.

836
00:35:14.764 --> 00:35:18.203
- What we see is
a populism rising,

837
00:35:18.246 --> 00:35:21.554
but a populism that is formed

838
00:35:21.597 --> 00:35:24.644
by a lack of economic gain

839
00:35:24.687 --> 00:35:27.342
and movement in the
middle of the economy.

840
00:35:32.042 --> 00:35:35.524
- A very large swath of the
country has felt left out

841
00:35:35.568 --> 00:35:37.831
by the economic miracle
that's taken place

842
00:35:37.874 --> 00:35:39.180
over the last 30 years.

843
00:35:41.051 --> 00:35:42.966
[soft music]

844
00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:45.012
In the process of globalization,

845
00:35:45.055 --> 00:35:48.276
there's been rising living
standards all over the world,

846
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:49.712
but the American middle-class

847
00:35:49.756 --> 00:35:52.715
and American lower middle-class
missed out on this.

848
00:35:54.456 --> 00:35:57.329
- In the United States
of America today,

849
00:35:58.243 --> 00:36:01.289
there is massive injustice

850
00:36:01.333 --> 00:36:05.337
in terms of income
and wealth inequality.

851
00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:07.643
- When you have no
real wage growth,

852
00:36:07.687 --> 00:36:12.692
when 67% doesn't have
$1,000 dollars in savings,

853
00:36:13.214 --> 00:36:17.218
when all the economic
gains accrue at the top,

854
00:36:17.262 --> 00:36:20.917
that will ultimately
destabilize politics.

855
00:36:20.961 --> 00:36:23.093
- Remember, 76% of Americans

856
00:36:23.137 --> 00:36:25.008
do not have a four
year college degree.

857
00:36:25.052 --> 00:36:26.967
More than two
thirds of Americans

858
00:36:27.010 --> 00:36:29.622
have never been
to college at all.

859
00:36:29.665 --> 00:36:32.668
So, what you're excluding
is the vast majority

860
00:36:32.712 --> 00:36:35.976
of the country from
the possibility of

861
00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:37.064
of the upper middle class.

862
00:36:37.107 --> 00:36:39.197
- Those people were angry.

863
00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:42.243
- [Audience] Bernie
Sanders! [clapping]

864
00:36:42.287 --> 00:36:43.766
Bernie Sanders!

865
00:36:43.810 --> 00:36:47.248
- [Audience] Trump, Trump,
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump!

866
00:36:47.292 --> 00:36:48.641
- Boo!

867
00:36:48.684 --> 00:36:50.991
- Things he's saying I've
been saying for years.

868
00:36:51.034 --> 00:36:53.036
When he wins, we all win.

869
00:36:53.080 --> 00:36:54.342
[soft music]

870
00:36:54.386 --> 00:36:58.303
- He tapped into a vein
of the American mindset

871
00:36:58.346 --> 00:37:01.828
that believed that the
American dream was aspirational

872
00:37:01.871 --> 00:37:03.351
but no longer achievable.

873
00:37:04.483 --> 00:37:06.833
- I'm tired of the
politicians in Washington.

874
00:37:06.876 --> 00:37:08.791
I'm tired of the way
the country's being run.

875
00:37:08.835 --> 00:37:10.271
And I want some change.

876
00:37:10.315 --> 00:37:12.795
I want somebody new, and the
man knows what he's doing.

877
00:37:12.839 --> 00:37:14.754
- If you want a candidate

878
00:37:14.797 --> 00:37:17.974
who's gonna help
create a government

879
00:37:18.018 --> 00:37:22.414
which for all of us
and not just the 1%...

880
00:37:22.457 --> 00:37:27.245
- The jobs, incomes, and
security of the American worker

881
00:37:27.288 --> 00:37:30.857
will always be my
first priority.

882
00:37:32.511 --> 00:37:33.686
- And this guy is saying,

883
00:37:33.729 --> 00:37:36.297
I'm not gonna ship
your job jobs overseas.

884
00:37:36.341 --> 00:37:38.256
I'm not going to
trade with people

885
00:37:38.299 --> 00:37:40.214
who will undermine our economy.

886
00:37:40.258 --> 00:37:42.129
I'm not gonna let
people into the country

887
00:37:42.172 --> 00:37:43.696
who will jeopardize
your security.

888
00:37:43.739 --> 00:37:45.175
That's what they're looking for.

889
00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:47.743
- I am going to be...

890
00:37:47.787 --> 00:37:50.659
the greatest jobs president...

891
00:37:50.703 --> 00:37:52.661
that God ever created.

892
00:37:52.705 --> 00:37:53.706
Remember that.

893
00:37:53.749 --> 00:37:55.229
[audience cheering]

894
00:37:55.273 --> 00:37:57.013
- I think a lot of
people go, "Oh my gosh!

895
00:37:57.057 --> 00:38:00.234
Look at this Trump, he's
upending everything!"

896
00:38:00.278 --> 00:38:02.541
And this is some disease that
just popped out of nowhere

897
00:38:02.584 --> 00:38:03.759
in the American polity.

898
00:38:03.803 --> 00:38:05.631
And it's like, no,
he's actually a symptom

899
00:38:05.674 --> 00:38:07.720
of the fact that many
people have felt alienated

900
00:38:07.763 --> 00:38:11.289
for a long time, have felt
disappointed in their vehicles

901
00:38:11.332 --> 00:38:13.595
for reaching
Congress, in Congress,

902
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.946
in this entire sort of system.

903
00:38:16.990 --> 00:38:20.123
- Our system is rigged.

904
00:38:20.167 --> 00:38:22.474
The system is corrupt.

905
00:38:22.517 --> 00:38:24.563
The system is broken.

906
00:38:24.606 --> 00:38:26.347
[somber music]

907
00:38:26.391 --> 00:38:29.568
- They were waiting for
someone who just would grab

908
00:38:29.611 --> 00:38:32.788
the people of Washington,
the leeches and the lawyers

909
00:38:32.832 --> 00:38:34.616
and the lobbyists
and all of them,

910
00:38:34.660 --> 00:38:37.706
just grab them by the neck
and say get the fuck out.

911
00:38:37.750 --> 00:38:40.753
- We are going to
drain the swamp.

912
00:38:40.796 --> 00:38:45.801
It is time to drain the
swamp in Washington, D.C.

913
00:38:46.411 --> 00:38:48.369
We're draining the swamp.

914
00:38:48.413 --> 00:38:51.416
[audience cheering]

915
00:38:54.723 --> 00:38:56.290
- [Interviewer] Some
people have told us

916
00:38:56.334 --> 00:38:59.380
that Trump voters were dumb
and that he manipulated them.

917
00:38:59.424 --> 00:39:02.427
- It is a mistake to
say, or to believe,

918
00:39:02.470 --> 00:39:04.342
that people who voted for
Donald Trump are stupid,

919
00:39:04.385 --> 00:39:05.647
just like it's a mistake to say

920
00:39:05.691 --> 00:39:08.346
that they're sexist or
racist or xenophobic.

921
00:39:09.434 --> 00:39:11.784
It is fair to say, though,
that they were duped.

922
00:39:11.827 --> 00:39:13.438
Because if you're
looking for a champion,

923
00:39:13.481 --> 00:39:15.527
if you've been squeezed as
a member of the middle-class

924
00:39:15.570 --> 00:39:18.399
for a Rust Belt city,
a billionaire populist

925
00:39:18.443 --> 00:39:21.228
who lives on Fifth Avenue
is not gonna be your savior.

926
00:39:21.271 --> 00:39:22.447
Now, to Donald Trump's credit,

927
00:39:22.490 --> 00:39:24.144
he was able to
connect with them.

928
00:39:24.187 --> 00:39:25.624
- And I'll tell you what.

929
00:39:25.667 --> 00:39:30.150
The big business in this
country, and I'm a part of it,

930
00:39:30.193 --> 00:39:31.586
but I decided-

931
00:39:31.630 --> 00:39:34.067
I'd been on the other side.
You do know that, right?

932
00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:35.721
I understand the other side.

933
00:39:35.764 --> 00:39:36.896
- In some way,
it's possible that,

934
00:39:36.939 --> 00:39:39.333
because he owned
being the rich guy

935
00:39:39.377 --> 00:39:41.770
who was going to help
everybody do better,

936
00:39:41.814 --> 00:39:44.643
it, in a way, circumvented
the criticisms

937
00:39:44.686 --> 00:39:46.122
that he's just some rich guy.

938
00:39:46.166 --> 00:39:47.820
- Large numbers of
Americans have thought

939
00:39:47.863 --> 00:39:49.430
for a very long period of time

940
00:39:49.474 --> 00:39:52.346
that, if we can only get
a businessman in there,

941
00:39:52.390 --> 00:39:53.782
someone who understood business,

942
00:39:53.826 --> 00:39:56.306
we could make the government
run like a business.

943
00:39:56.350 --> 00:39:57.960
Which is kind of a
funny point of view

944
00:39:58.004 --> 00:40:01.834
when you think of all of
the senators and governors

945
00:40:01.877 --> 00:40:03.792
who were businessmen,
who were elected

946
00:40:03.836 --> 00:40:06.404
and generally have been
a disastrous politician.

947
00:40:06.447 --> 00:40:09.015
[helicopter whirring]

948
00:40:09.058 --> 00:40:13.454
- He was out there giving
helicopter rides to children,

949
00:40:13.498 --> 00:40:15.978
spending tons of
money showing anything

950
00:40:16.022 --> 00:40:17.676
but humble beginnings.

951
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.287
but that's who his persona was,

952
00:40:20.330 --> 00:40:23.899
and that made him
seem authentic.

953
00:40:23.943 --> 00:40:27.642
- So he wore a suit where
other people don't wear suits.

954
00:40:27.686 --> 00:40:31.385
He stayed looking presidential
in every situation.

955
00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:33.169
[overlapping shouts]

956
00:40:33.213 --> 00:40:35.041
- Mr. Trump now has security

957
00:40:35.084 --> 00:40:37.522
equal to the President
of the United States.

958
00:40:37.565 --> 00:40:40.046
- We commonly refer to
our activity as the show,

959
00:40:40.089 --> 00:40:43.745
and the reason being is
because it was a show.

960
00:40:43.789 --> 00:40:46.618
If you think about the
optics, the black vehicles,

961
00:40:46.661 --> 00:40:48.968
the limousines, the
agents that jump out

962
00:40:49.011 --> 00:40:51.274
with sunglasses and earpieces,

963
00:40:51.318 --> 00:40:53.538
there's a sense of
importance and gravitas

964
00:40:53.581 --> 00:40:56.149
that comes with the show.

965
00:40:56.192 --> 00:40:58.847
And Donald Trump had
that almost one year

966
00:40:58.891 --> 00:41:00.980
in advance of the election.

967
00:41:01.023 --> 00:41:02.938
- And he made sure that,
when he landed his plane,

968
00:41:02.982 --> 00:41:05.245
that it looked a lot
like Air Force One.

969
00:41:05.288 --> 00:41:07.987
That there would be plenty
of camera time for that.

970
00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:12.382
- The American people would
have been disappointed

971
00:41:12.426 --> 00:41:15.385
if he had appeared
at any airport

972
00:41:15.429 --> 00:41:17.387
in any other jet.

973
00:41:18.171 --> 00:41:22.131
The black and gold and
red Trump color scheme,

974
00:41:22.175 --> 00:41:25.744
and the giant block
letters of gold, Trump,

975
00:41:25.787 --> 00:41:30.400
are things that people
respond to now emotionally.

976
00:41:30.444 --> 00:41:33.578
It's not just that they're
amused and riveted by it.

977
00:41:33.621 --> 00:41:35.057
They like it.

978
00:41:35.101 --> 00:41:36.885
- They admire Donald
Trump the same way

979
00:41:36.929 --> 00:41:38.800
they once admired Elvis.

980
00:41:38.844 --> 00:41:41.760
They see a man who's living
large, who's enjoying life,

981
00:41:41.803 --> 00:41:43.370
Who's doing what they
would probably do

982
00:41:43.413 --> 00:41:45.372
if they were worth
billions of dollars.

983
00:41:45.415 --> 00:41:48.244
- Trump is the guy that the
working class man would be

984
00:41:48.288 --> 00:41:49.855
If he won the lottery.

985
00:41:49.898 --> 00:41:52.292
There's something about Trump's
wealth, the gold-platedness,

986
00:41:52.335 --> 00:41:55.556
the eating a bucket of
KFC on his airplane.

987
00:41:55.600 --> 00:41:58.167
[soft electronic music]

988
00:41:58.211 --> 00:42:00.779
- He's one powerful person

989
00:42:00.822 --> 00:42:04.260
who's gonna stand
up and stand between

990
00:42:04.304 --> 00:42:08.526
the regular folks and the
elite and say, "I'm with them."

991
00:42:10.528 --> 00:42:11.877
- He has money.

992
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.966
He's supporting this
campaign from his own money.

993
00:42:14.009 --> 00:42:14.967
He believes in this.

994
00:42:15.010 --> 00:42:16.272
- I'm here for Donald Trump

995
00:42:16.316 --> 00:42:19.145
because he loves America
and he loves Texans.

996
00:42:19.188 --> 00:42:20.189
- And veterans.

997
00:42:20.233 --> 00:42:21.887
- Yes! Yes!

998
00:42:21.930 --> 00:42:25.804
- We need jobs and
we need more jobs.

999
00:42:25.847 --> 00:42:29.024
I mean, it's getting bad,
but it's gonna get better,

1000
00:42:29.068 --> 00:42:30.330
'cause he's gonna
be our president.

1001
00:42:30.373 --> 00:42:32.550
- He wants to eliminate
some of the corruption

1002
00:42:32.593 --> 00:42:33.986
that's in the government.

1003
00:42:34.029 --> 00:42:35.248
And there's a lot of
corruption in this government

1004
00:42:35.291 --> 00:42:36.902
at the present time.

1005
00:42:36.945 --> 00:42:38.425
- If you were afraid that your
child was being indoctrinated

1006
00:42:38.468 --> 00:42:41.602
in high school or college,
Trump had a message for you.

1007
00:42:41.646 --> 00:42:44.170
If you were angry about
the cultural signals

1008
00:42:44.213 --> 00:42:47.782
that Hollywood was sending,
he had a message for you.

1009
00:42:47.826 --> 00:42:49.349
And if you were...

1010
00:42:50.219 --> 00:42:53.179
resentful that the media
wasn't telling the whole story,

1011
00:42:53.222 --> 00:42:55.311
boy, did he have
a message for you.

1012
00:42:55.355 --> 00:43:00.142
And it became Trump versus
this cultural elite.

1013
00:43:00.186 --> 00:43:03.581
[grave electronic music]

1014
00:43:08.847 --> 00:43:13.329
- If you look at a Trump rally,
you see the joyful faces,

1015
00:43:13.373 --> 00:43:16.332
people laughing,
people having fun.

1016
00:43:17.856 --> 00:43:21.033
- He was electrifying audiences

1017
00:43:21.076 --> 00:43:23.601
of 10 to 20 to 30,000 people.

1018
00:43:23.644 --> 00:43:25.298
- I would go early
to the events.

1019
00:43:25.341 --> 00:43:27.343
They would be lined
up around the block,

1020
00:43:27.387 --> 00:43:30.172
into the second block,
into the third block.

1021
00:43:30.216 --> 00:43:31.609
Never seen anything like it.

1022
00:43:32.566 --> 00:43:35.787
- They would show up in
labyrinth, snake-like lines

1023
00:43:35.830 --> 00:43:37.658
to go to a rally just
to say they were there

1024
00:43:37.702 --> 00:43:39.965
when he was there and
be part of his movement.

1025
00:43:40.879 --> 00:43:43.403
[stark music]

1026
00:43:44.622 --> 00:43:47.276
- [Audience] We want
Trump! We want Trump!

1027
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:48.495
We want Trump!

1028
00:43:49.670 --> 00:43:51.672
[audience cheering]

1029
00:43:51.716 --> 00:43:53.021
We want Trump!

1030
00:43:53.065 --> 00:43:55.328
- When you start to
draw 10,000 people,

1031
00:43:55.371 --> 00:43:59.985
15, 20,000, in Trump's
case 30,000 people...

1032
00:44:00.028 --> 00:44:01.987
and they're all
cheering your name...

1033
00:44:02.030 --> 00:44:04.380
And you're Donald Trump...

1034
00:44:04.424 --> 00:44:05.904
It's better than Oxycontin.

1035
00:44:05.947 --> 00:44:08.689
I mean, it is the most
addictive thing in life,

1036
00:44:08.733 --> 00:44:10.952
even more than private jets.

1037
00:44:10.996 --> 00:44:11.910
Just...

1038
00:44:11.953 --> 00:44:12.737
[audience cheering]

1039
00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:14.042
- Unbelievable!

1040
00:44:15.522 --> 00:44:16.349
Thank you!

1041
00:44:17.829 --> 00:44:19.874
Ah, that's so beautiful.

1042
00:44:19.918 --> 00:44:22.921
- Donald Trump is very,
very hard to understand

1043
00:44:22.964 --> 00:44:26.446
if you come at him through the
lens of an educated person.

1044
00:44:26.489 --> 00:44:28.143
I went to a number
of his rallies

1045
00:44:28.187 --> 00:44:30.885
in New Hampshire and
in South Carolina.

1046
00:44:30.929 --> 00:44:32.713
And I would listen
to Trump's speeches,

1047
00:44:32.757 --> 00:44:35.150
and it seemed to me as if
he was changing thoughts

1048
00:44:35.194 --> 00:44:36.674
in the middle of a sentence,

1049
00:44:36.717 --> 00:44:38.501
not just in the middle
of the paragraph.

1050
00:44:38.545 --> 00:44:40.025
There were so many
unfinished thoughts

1051
00:44:40.068 --> 00:44:41.983
and so many imprecise wordings.

1052
00:44:42.027 --> 00:44:44.333
I thought, my gosh, what does
this guy even talking about?

1053
00:44:44.377 --> 00:44:46.335
- Did you read about Starbucks?

1054
00:44:46.379 --> 00:44:48.947
No more "Merry
Christmas" on Starbucks.

1055
00:44:48.990 --> 00:44:50.557
Then you say, sorry,
we're leaving.

1056
00:44:50.600 --> 00:44:52.559
You go out, you double
up the sanctions.

1057
00:44:52.602 --> 00:44:55.127
By the time your plane lands

1058
00:44:55.170 --> 00:44:57.651
at one of our decrepit
airports, they're all decrepit.

1059
00:44:57.695 --> 00:45:00.785
This was said to me by one of
the great musical geniuses.

1060
00:45:00.828 --> 00:45:02.264
I won't tell you his name.

1061
00:45:02.308 --> 00:45:04.223
I don't want to get in trouble.

1062
00:45:04.266 --> 00:45:06.747
But he said, "Donald, you're
the greatest in the world.

1063
00:45:06.791 --> 00:45:09.097
You're the only one
that can fill an arena

1064
00:45:09.141 --> 00:45:11.796
without a guitar,"
meaning without music.

1065
00:45:11.839 --> 00:45:15.451
I don't want Oreos
made in Mexico!

1066
00:45:15.495 --> 00:45:16.801
[audience booing]

1067
00:45:16.844 --> 00:45:17.671
Right?

1068
00:45:17.715 --> 00:45:19.020
- It's baffling to me...

1069
00:45:19.847 --> 00:45:22.589
why people would say that he...

1070
00:45:22.632 --> 00:45:26.680
that Trump gets anyone
in the Rust Belt,

1071
00:45:26.724 --> 00:45:28.813
any middle-class person.

1072
00:45:28.856 --> 00:45:30.553
Not only...

1073
00:45:30.597 --> 00:45:34.296
Yes, does he literally live in
a gold tower in New York City

1074
00:45:34.340 --> 00:45:38.648
and a mansion in Beverly Hills,
on a golf course in Florida

1075
00:45:38.692 --> 00:45:41.216
I never saw a speech
of Donald Trump's

1076
00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:43.958
where he addressed the
needs of the working class.

1077
00:45:44.002 --> 00:45:46.265
I never saw a single
speech of Donald Trump's

1078
00:45:46.308 --> 00:45:50.704
where he talked about anything
but himself and his enemies.

1079
00:45:50.748 --> 00:45:53.402
- And yet, when I talked
to the people in the crowd,

1080
00:45:53.446 --> 00:45:55.100
I found that he was
resonating with them.

1081
00:45:55.143 --> 00:45:57.145
- We're gonna win so much,

1082
00:45:57.189 --> 00:45:59.495
you may even get
tired of winning!

1083
00:45:59.539 --> 00:46:01.889
And you'll say, "Please, please!

1084
00:46:01.933 --> 00:46:03.369
It's too much winning!

1085
00:46:03.412 --> 00:46:05.371
We can't take it anymore!

1086
00:46:05.414 --> 00:46:07.503
Mr. President, it's too much!"

1087
00:46:07.547 --> 00:46:09.070
And I'll say, "No, it isn't!

1088
00:46:09.114 --> 00:46:10.637
We have to keep winning!

1089
00:46:10.680 --> 00:46:12.117
We have to win more!

1090
00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:13.466
We're gonna win more!"

1091
00:46:13.509 --> 00:46:14.641
- You can mock it.

1092
00:46:14.684 --> 00:46:15.990
You can say you
don't agree with it.

1093
00:46:16.034 --> 00:46:18.036
You can say it wasn't
sophisticated enough.

1094
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:19.341
But you can't say
he didn't have it.

1095
00:46:19.385 --> 00:46:21.648
He knew exactly what he
wanted to tell people.

1096
00:46:21.691 --> 00:46:22.954
- People came to the rallies

1097
00:46:22.997 --> 00:46:24.651
because they had no idea
what he was gonna say.

1098
00:46:24.694 --> 00:46:27.088
They had no ideas whether
there were gonna be fights.

1099
00:46:27.132 --> 00:46:28.176
You didn't know.

1100
00:46:28.220 --> 00:46:30.352
- His campaign
violence gone viral.

1101
00:46:30.396 --> 00:46:32.050
Those are the big
questions this week

1102
00:46:32.093 --> 00:46:33.660
after the ugliest two days

1103
00:46:33.703 --> 00:46:36.706
of a dangerously angry
White House race.

1104
00:46:36.750 --> 00:46:38.970
- Oh, we have a protester.

1105
00:46:39.013 --> 00:46:40.362
We have a protester.

1106
00:46:40.406 --> 00:46:42.756
[audience booing]

1107
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.062
I love the old days.

1108
00:46:44.105 --> 00:46:45.454
You know what they used
to do to guys like that

1109
00:46:45.498 --> 00:46:46.978
when they were in
a place like this?

1110
00:46:47.021 --> 00:46:49.676
They'd be carried out
on a stretcher, folks.

1111
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.939
[audience cheering]

1112
00:46:51.983 --> 00:46:53.245
Ah, it's true.

1113
00:46:54.724 --> 00:46:55.725
Get 'em outta here!

1114
00:46:55.769 --> 00:46:56.814
Get 'em out!

1115
00:46:56.857 --> 00:46:58.032
Out, out, out!

1116
00:46:58.076 --> 00:47:00.121
Bye! Go home to mommy.

1117
00:47:00.165 --> 00:47:02.167
- [Reporter] Do you regret
saying any of those things

1118
00:47:02.210 --> 00:47:03.646
about punching protesters,

1119
00:47:03.690 --> 00:47:05.735
sending them out on stretchers?

1120
00:47:05.779 --> 00:47:08.129
- No, I don't regret it at all.

1121
00:47:08.173 --> 00:47:09.348
- Racist go home!
- Build that wall!

1122
00:47:09.391 --> 00:47:10.653
- Racist go home!
- Build that wall!

1123
00:47:10.697 --> 00:47:14.005
- Is there anything more
fun than a Trump rally?

1124
00:47:14.048 --> 00:47:15.397
- [Audience] No!

1125
00:47:15.441 --> 00:47:17.486
- The ancient Romans
said that the electorate

1126
00:47:17.530 --> 00:47:19.662
was motivated by
bread and circuses.

1127
00:47:19.706 --> 00:47:23.449
So the idea that
giving people a show

1128
00:47:23.492 --> 00:47:26.017
is not unique to
21st century America

1129
00:47:26.060 --> 00:47:28.193
or 21st century world.

1130
00:47:29.629 --> 00:47:31.805
But Trump Is good at it. He's
good at provoking people.

1131
00:47:31.849 --> 00:47:33.154
He's good at getting
a rise out of people

1132
00:47:33.198 --> 00:47:34.329
in whatever medium.

1133
00:47:34.373 --> 00:47:35.765
ISIS...

1134
00:47:35.809 --> 00:47:36.854
is honoring...

1135
00:47:37.898 --> 00:47:39.117
President Obama.

1136
00:47:39.160 --> 00:47:39.944
[audience booing]

1137
00:47:39.987 --> 00:47:41.946
He is the founder of ISIS.

1138
00:47:41.989 --> 00:47:43.338
He's the founder of ISIS.

1139
00:47:43.382 --> 00:47:45.210
- Trump has launched
a new line of attacks

1140
00:47:45.253 --> 00:47:47.168
trying to link the
Obama administration

1141
00:47:47.212 --> 00:47:48.561
to the founding of ISIS.

1142
00:47:48.604 --> 00:47:51.869
- Founding ISIS would be,
I mean, that's treason.

1143
00:47:51.912 --> 00:47:53.435
- I know what you meant.

1144
00:47:53.479 --> 00:47:55.133
You meant that he created the
vacuum, he lost the peace.

1145
00:47:55.176 --> 00:47:57.135
- No, I meant he's
the founder of ISIS.

1146
00:47:57.178 --> 00:47:59.093
He was the founder of ISIS.

1147
00:47:59.137 --> 00:48:00.181
Absolutely.

1148
00:48:00.225 --> 00:48:03.402
- Every night I had
to sit on set...

1149
00:48:04.446 --> 00:48:07.972
cable news, and listen
to people explaining

1150
00:48:08.015 --> 00:48:11.410
how Trump is moments away
from self-destructing,

1151
00:48:11.453 --> 00:48:13.934
how the most recent thing
he's done is so terrible

1152
00:48:13.978 --> 00:48:15.196
and he'll never survive it.

1153
00:48:15.240 --> 00:48:17.024
- And I think what
Trump understood better

1154
00:48:17.068 --> 00:48:20.593
than really anybody is the
truth of being in the media.

1155
00:48:20.636 --> 00:48:22.377
There's not a liberal
or a conservative bias

1156
00:48:22.421 --> 00:48:24.292
as much as there's
a conflict bias,

1157
00:48:24.336 --> 00:48:27.121
and Donald Trump
provided daily conflict.

1158
00:48:27.165 --> 00:48:29.428
- You gotta see this guy,
"I don't know what I said!

1159
00:48:29.471 --> 00:48:30.255
[mumbling]

1160
00:48:30.298 --> 00:48:31.821
I don't remember!"

1161
00:48:31.865 --> 00:48:34.302
- That reporter he is talking
about is Serge Kovaleski,

1162
00:48:34.346 --> 00:48:35.782
who now works for
the New York Times.

1163
00:48:35.825 --> 00:48:37.653
- Do you believe in punishment
for abortion, yes or no?

1164
00:48:37.697 --> 00:48:38.654
As a principle.

1165
00:48:38.698 --> 00:48:41.135
- The answer is that...

1166
00:48:41.179 --> 00:48:42.963
there has to be some
form of punishment.

1167
00:48:43.007 --> 00:48:43.790
- For the woman?

1168
00:48:43.833 --> 00:48:45.226
- Yeah.

1169
00:48:45.270 --> 00:48:47.359
- Have you even read the
United States Constitution?

1170
00:48:47.402 --> 00:48:49.491
- If you look at his wife,
she was standing there.

1171
00:48:49.535 --> 00:48:50.666
She had nothing to say.

1172
00:48:50.710 --> 00:48:52.320
She probably, maybe
she wasn't allowed

1173
00:48:52.364 --> 00:48:53.321
to have anything to say.

1174
00:48:53.365 --> 00:48:54.757
You tell me.

1175
00:48:54.801 --> 00:48:56.629
- That's a famous Mussolini
quote. You retweeted it.

1176
00:48:56.672 --> 00:48:57.717
Do you like the quote?

1177
00:48:57.760 --> 00:48:58.805
Did you know it was Mussolini?

1178
00:48:58.848 --> 00:49:00.502
- It's okay to know
it's Mussolini.

1179
00:49:00.546 --> 00:49:02.069
Look, Mussolini was Mussolini.

1180
00:49:02.113 --> 00:49:04.202
I'm gonna bomb the
shit out of 'em!

1181
00:49:04.245 --> 00:49:05.029
[audience cheering]

1182
00:49:05.072 --> 00:49:05.899
It's true.

1183
00:49:05.943 --> 00:49:07.205
I don't care.

1184
00:49:07.248 --> 00:49:10.121
They give us the most
dishonest reporting,

1185
00:49:10.164 --> 00:49:11.731
and that's the way it is, folks.

1186
00:49:11.774 --> 00:49:14.038
That's the way it is, and
we just get used to it.

1187
00:49:14.081 --> 00:49:16.997
- Whenever Trump would
appear on television,

1188
00:49:17.041 --> 00:49:18.651
the ratings would go up.

1189
00:49:18.694 --> 00:49:20.174
- Man, who would have
expected the ride

1190
00:49:20.218 --> 00:49:21.784
we're all having right now.

1191
00:49:21.828 --> 00:49:24.265
It may not be good for America,
but it's damn good for CBS.

1192
00:49:24.309 --> 00:49:25.179
That's all I got to say.

1193
00:49:25.223 --> 00:49:26.833
[audience laughing]

1194
00:49:26.876 --> 00:49:28.922
- So they had this endless
appetite for Trump,

1195
00:49:28.966 --> 00:49:31.316
because they had an endless
appetite for ratings.

1196
00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:33.883
[audience cheering]

1197
00:49:33.927 --> 00:49:35.494
- Trump's a racist!

1198
00:49:35.537 --> 00:49:38.497
[audience laughing]

1199
00:49:38.540 --> 00:49:40.368
- Yeah, I mean, it's
symbiotic, right?

1200
00:49:40.412 --> 00:49:41.891
And everyone should admit

1201
00:49:41.935 --> 00:49:44.894
that this is a symbiotic
relationship that...

1202
00:49:44.938 --> 00:49:46.200
he rates...

1203
00:49:47.201 --> 00:49:49.116
we cover him 'cause he rates.

1204
00:49:49.160 --> 00:49:50.726
You could just put
a camera on him

1205
00:49:50.770 --> 00:49:54.208
and guarantee that it was gonna
be entertaining in some way.

1206
00:49:54.252 --> 00:49:56.254
- Because he's a
controlled car crash.

1207
00:49:56.297 --> 00:49:57.864
And once in a while
he'll hit the guard rail

1208
00:49:57.907 --> 00:50:01.563
doing 75 miles an hour and
sparks will come off the car,

1209
00:50:01.607 --> 00:50:03.261
and you're like, okay,
where's this thing gonna go?

1210
00:50:03.304 --> 00:50:04.784
I gotta watch this thing.

1211
00:50:04.827 --> 00:50:07.004
- At first, he would do
an interview with anybody.

1212
00:50:07.047 --> 00:50:08.788
He was calling in to TV stations

1213
00:50:08.831 --> 00:50:10.442
and radio stations
left and right.

1214
00:50:10.485 --> 00:50:12.879
- I'm joined now on the phone
from New York by Donald Trump.

1215
00:50:12.922 --> 00:50:14.533
- On the phone, Donald Trump.

1216
00:50:14.576 --> 00:50:15.969
- Donald Trump on the phone

1217
00:50:16.013 --> 00:50:17.971
- We have a phone
call from somebody.

1218
00:50:18.015 --> 00:50:19.233
- Good morning, darling.

1219
00:50:19.277 --> 00:50:20.626
- Nobody had ever
seen that before.

1220
00:50:20.669 --> 00:50:25.370
Usually you have walls and
walls of media handlers

1221
00:50:25.413 --> 00:50:28.895
between a candidate
and the media system.

1222
00:50:28.938 --> 00:50:29.896
What's on the Facebook page?

1223
00:50:29.939 --> 00:50:30.766
What's on the Twitter page?

1224
00:50:30.810 --> 00:50:32.377
Who's he talking to when?

1225
00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:36.424
Trump just kept accelerating
his share of the media market.

1226
00:50:36.468 --> 00:50:37.643
[cameras snapping]

1227
00:50:37.686 --> 00:50:39.166
- It was partly it
was Trump's celebrity

1228
00:50:39.210 --> 00:50:42.561
and the expectation that he
would say something outrageous.

1229
00:50:42.604 --> 00:50:43.823
- It may be.

1230
00:50:43.866 --> 00:50:44.780
Again, I don't have the data,

1231
00:50:44.824 --> 00:50:46.304
but I'm just gonna make a guess

1232
00:50:46.347 --> 00:50:49.133
that Donald Trump was the
most televised candidate

1233
00:50:49.176 --> 00:50:51.004
in the history of candidates.

1234
00:50:51.048 --> 00:50:53.572
- He's someone that
commands media attention

1235
00:50:53.615 --> 00:50:55.356
and television oxygen.

1236
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.576
And actually, what
happened is everyone,

1237
00:50:57.619 --> 00:50:59.621
in the liberal
media in particular,

1238
00:50:59.665 --> 00:51:01.797
continued to underestimate him.

1239
00:51:01.841 --> 00:51:03.756
- I think there is a large
segment of the population

1240
00:51:03.799 --> 00:51:07.064
in the United States that
wants to blame somebody,

1241
00:51:07.107 --> 00:51:09.457
and the media becomes
an easy target.

1242
00:51:09.501 --> 00:51:12.765
- But I do think that there
were things done for him,

1243
00:51:12.808 --> 00:51:16.116
like photos of the empty
podium, waiting for the presser,

1244
00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:18.814
because it was guaranteed
conflict, good TV.

1245
00:51:18.858 --> 00:51:21.121
- Front-runner Donald
Trump expected to speak

1246
00:51:21.165 --> 00:51:22.383
at a campaign rally.

1247
00:51:22.427 --> 00:51:23.602
- So we're just expecting him.

1248
00:51:23.645 --> 00:51:24.994
- [Reporter] We're
awaiting his remarks.

1249
00:51:25.038 --> 00:51:25.734
- [Reporter] Still waiting
for that Donald Trump.

1250
00:51:25.778 --> 00:51:26.953
- Any minute now.

1251
00:51:26.996 --> 00:51:29.303
- All the news coverage
just got sucked up

1252
00:51:29.347 --> 00:51:32.132
and focused on him,
because he continued to be

1253
00:51:32.176 --> 00:51:33.481
the most interesting story.

1254
00:51:33.525 --> 00:51:34.613
You can't even remember

1255
00:51:34.656 --> 00:51:37.006
what the other
candidates were about.

1256
00:51:37.050 --> 00:51:39.879
- But the media is
not the one that told

1257
00:51:39.922 --> 00:51:44.797
all of his competitors
not to do interviews.

1258
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.713
They were running an old
game and an old playbook.

1259
00:51:47.756 --> 00:51:52.979
Trump, to his credit,
understood that new media world.

1260
00:51:53.022 --> 00:51:55.286
And he took advantage of it.
There's no question about it.

1261
00:51:55.329 --> 00:51:58.506
- That led to just an
unconscionable amount

1262
00:51:58.550 --> 00:52:00.552
of free media coverage

1263
00:52:00.595 --> 00:52:03.032
that we could sort of
quantify in dollars.

1264
00:52:03.076 --> 00:52:04.773
It would be a really,
really high number.

1265
00:52:04.817 --> 00:52:07.167
- You know, people say that
he got a billion dollars

1266
00:52:07.211 --> 00:52:08.255
in free media in the primary,

1267
00:52:08.299 --> 00:52:09.865
but a lot of that was negative.

1268
00:52:09.909 --> 00:52:12.520
A lot of that would have been
considered not a campaign ad

1269
00:52:12.564 --> 00:52:14.957
for his campaign but
for his opponents.

1270
00:52:15.001 --> 00:52:17.177
- I supported him. He
lost, he let us down.

1271
00:52:17.221 --> 00:52:18.570
But, you know, he lost.

1272
00:52:18.613 --> 00:52:20.180
So I never liked him
as much after that

1273
00:52:20.224 --> 00:52:21.007
'cause I don't like losers.

1274
00:52:21.050 --> 00:52:22.095
[audience laughing]

1275
00:52:22.139 --> 00:52:23.227
But Frank, Frank,

1276
00:52:23.270 --> 00:52:24.141
let me get to it.
- He's a war hero.

1277
00:52:24.184 --> 00:52:26.055
He hit me.
- He's a war hero.

1278
00:52:26.099 --> 00:52:28.580
You hear me say, "But
he's a war hero."

1279
00:52:28.623 --> 00:52:29.972
I couldn't believe it.

1280
00:52:30.016 --> 00:52:31.278
He's a war hero. And
I said it like that.

1281
00:52:31.322 --> 00:52:32.453
- He's not a war hero.

1282
00:52:32.497 --> 00:52:33.454
- He's a war hero.

1283
00:52:33.498 --> 00:52:34.281
- He's a war hero-

1284
00:52:34.325 --> 00:52:35.500
- Five and a half years.

1285
00:52:35.543 --> 00:52:37.284
- He's a war hero
'cause he was captured.

1286
00:52:37.328 --> 00:52:38.938
I like people that
weren't captured, okay?

1287
00:52:38.981 --> 00:52:40.157
I hate to tell you.

1288
00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:42.028
- And I thought to
myself at that moment

1289
00:52:42.985 --> 00:52:45.205
the gentleman who is
sitting across from you

1290
00:52:45.249 --> 00:52:48.469
is in the process of
lighting himself on fire.

1291
00:52:48.513 --> 00:52:50.297
- Oh, that was my first moment

1292
00:52:50.341 --> 00:52:52.995
where I naively was like,
well, this guy's done.

1293
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:54.258
[laughs]

1294
00:52:54.301 --> 00:52:56.085
- Supposedly, that's
something that the right

1295
00:52:56.129 --> 00:52:57.348
does not tolerate.

1296
00:52:57.391 --> 00:53:00.264
You cannot go after
members of the military.

1297
00:53:00.307 --> 00:53:01.656
- You know, I'm just speechless.

1298
00:53:01.700 --> 00:53:04.877
'cause I just can't
believe such reckless words

1299
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.792
out of a person's mouth.

1300
00:53:06.835 --> 00:53:09.882
- He did 10 things,
from the announcement

1301
00:53:09.925 --> 00:53:11.710
through the first vote in Iowa,

1302
00:53:11.753 --> 00:53:13.625
10 things that would have
killed any other candidate.

1303
00:53:13.668 --> 00:53:15.540
And each time, he
just got stronger.

1304
00:53:15.583 --> 00:53:18.107
- This is going to be a
nightmare of a campaign.

1305
00:53:18.151 --> 00:53:22.634
If he insists on being so
uncivil and so disrespectful,

1306
00:53:22.677 --> 00:53:25.027
but you better get ready for it.

1307
00:53:25.071 --> 00:53:26.551
- They say I have the
most loyal people.

1308
00:53:26.594 --> 00:53:27.943
Did you ever see that?

1309
00:53:27.987 --> 00:53:29.815
Where I could stand in
the middle of Fifth Avenue

1310
00:53:29.858 --> 00:53:32.296
and shoot somebody, and I
wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

1311
00:53:32.339 --> 00:53:33.471
It's incredible.

1312
00:53:33.514 --> 00:53:34.776
[audience laughing]

1313
00:53:34.820 --> 00:53:37.344
- You're encouraged to
be modest, to be humble,

1314
00:53:37.388 --> 00:53:39.694
not to show off,
not to be brash,

1315
00:53:39.738 --> 00:53:42.306
not to say provocative
things, to be very careful,

1316
00:53:42.349 --> 00:53:45.309
to tip toe around the
niceties of language.

1317
00:53:45.352 --> 00:53:47.354
Trump just ignored
all the playbook.

1318
00:53:47.398 --> 00:53:50.575
Trump just went, "No,
actually, I'm gonna be me.

1319
00:53:50.618 --> 00:53:53.447
For better or for worse,
I'm gonna to be authentic."

1320
00:53:53.491 --> 00:53:56.972
- And that was tremendously
attractive to an audience,

1321
00:53:57.016 --> 00:54:00.106
and I think a country, that
is perhaps rightly tired

1322
00:54:00.149 --> 00:54:02.456
of politicians who seem bound

1323
00:54:02.500 --> 00:54:05.372
by what they considered
political correctness

1324
00:54:05.416 --> 00:54:07.809
in not saying those things.

1325
00:54:07.853 --> 00:54:10.856
[audience cheering]

1326
00:54:13.424 --> 00:54:16.035
- What happens with Trump

1327
00:54:16.078 --> 00:54:20.474
is that he uses the same
method over and over again

1328
00:54:20.518 --> 00:54:22.171
until it fails.

1329
00:54:22.215 --> 00:54:26.219
And in the primaries, he
discovered that it didn't fail.

1330
00:54:26.263 --> 00:54:30.049
- An outsider who read the
mood of Republican voters

1331
00:54:30.092 --> 00:54:32.878
better than anyone
now controls a party

1332
00:54:32.921 --> 00:54:35.446
that fought him every
step of the way.

1333
00:54:35.489 --> 00:54:38.144
This evening, his last
opponent dropped out,

1334
00:54:38.187 --> 00:54:40.146
ensuring that Donald Trump

1335
00:54:40.189 --> 00:54:43.802
will be the party's first
nominee since Eisenhower

1336
00:54:43.845 --> 00:54:46.326
to run with no
political experience.

1337
00:54:46.370 --> 00:54:50.330
- I saw an organization
that was the most pathetic

1338
00:54:50.374 --> 00:54:53.028
of anything I've ever
seen in American politics.

1339
00:54:53.942 --> 00:54:55.901
His polling operation was weak.

1340
00:54:55.944 --> 00:54:59.078
His grassroots was
almost non-existent.

1341
00:54:59.121 --> 00:55:01.950
They refused to spend
money for advertising.

1342
00:55:01.994 --> 00:55:05.214
All the elements of what you
spend or invest in the campaign

1343
00:55:05.258 --> 00:55:06.564
were not happening.

1344
00:55:06.607 --> 00:55:11.046
- We hit the 1237, right? 1237.

1345
00:55:11.090 --> 00:55:13.222
- [Reporter] Trump celebrated
the victory tonight

1346
00:55:13.266 --> 00:55:14.615
with McDonald's.

1347
00:55:14.659 --> 00:55:16.530
- Here I am, watching
Hillary fight,

1348
00:55:16.574 --> 00:55:18.445
and she can't close the deal.

1349
00:55:18.489 --> 00:55:20.926
And that should be such
an easy deal to close.

1350
00:55:20.969 --> 00:55:23.363
It could be we're gonna
run against Crazy Bernie.

1351
00:55:23.407 --> 00:55:24.321
That could be big.

1352
00:55:24.364 --> 00:55:25.147
[audience booing]

1353
00:55:25.191 --> 00:55:26.671
Could be Crazy Bernie.

1354
00:55:26.714 --> 00:55:29.935
He's a crazy man, but that's
okay. We like crazy people.

1355
00:55:29.978 --> 00:55:32.633
- Certainly, great
politicians master new media.

1356
00:55:32.677 --> 00:55:34.896
Right, so, FDR was
the king of radio.

1357
00:55:34.940 --> 00:55:37.116
JFK used TV.

1358
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.814
Obama used the internet
and nascent social networks

1359
00:55:39.858 --> 00:55:42.991
very well, but
Trump and Twitter,

1360
00:55:43.035 --> 00:55:46.821
it was a particularly
powerful, toxic combination.

1361
00:55:46.865 --> 00:55:50.608
- Well, I think Twitter is
a unique kind of network

1362
00:55:50.651 --> 00:55:53.828
in that it brings
together a social network

1363
00:55:53.872 --> 00:55:55.221
and a broadcast network.

1364
00:55:55.264 --> 00:55:56.614
[intriguing electronic music]

1365
00:55:56.657 --> 00:55:58.137
You have millions of followers,

1366
00:55:58.180 --> 00:56:00.531
you're effectively
a broadcaster.

1367
00:56:00.574 --> 00:56:03.838
And these two modes interact.

1368
00:56:05.579 --> 00:56:07.712
Sometimes a tweet goes viral,

1369
00:56:07.755 --> 00:56:11.455
where eventually millions or
tens of millions of people

1370
00:56:11.498 --> 00:56:13.413
will see that one message.

1371
00:56:13.457 --> 00:56:15.633
- It was his
understanding of Twitter

1372
00:56:15.676 --> 00:56:18.940
and how to make that
entire platform his,

1373
00:56:18.984 --> 00:56:22.335
in a way that creates direct
intimacy with his supporters.

1374
00:56:22.379 --> 00:56:24.772
It was unbelievable,
what he was doing.

1375
00:56:24.816 --> 00:56:27.122
And I recognized
that immediately.

1376
00:56:27.166 --> 00:56:29.690
It was like I was
sitting there going...

1377
00:56:29.734 --> 00:56:33.346
almost reverential,
like, "Oh my gosh!"

1378
00:56:33.390 --> 00:56:36.218
- It was Mr. Trump himself

1379
00:56:36.262 --> 00:56:40.571
who drove that social
media platform train

1380
00:56:40.614 --> 00:56:43.443
by directly communicating
with the people,

1381
00:56:43.487 --> 00:56:46.272
and the media had to cover
the candidates' tweets.

1382
00:56:46.315 --> 00:56:48.274
- Matt, I want to put up that
tweet again this morning,

1383
00:56:48.317 --> 00:56:50.494
of course tweeting,
"I love Hispanics."

1384
00:56:50.537 --> 00:56:52.365
- I want you to look at this
graphic of one of his tweets.

1385
00:56:52.409 --> 00:56:53.627
I'm sure that you
have seen this.

1386
00:56:53.671 --> 00:56:57.152
A star that is the shape
of the Star of David.

1387
00:56:57.196 --> 00:56:59.938
- Donald Trump very
successfully used

1388
00:56:59.981 --> 00:57:03.289
not only Twitter as a
tool in and of itself

1389
00:57:03.332 --> 00:57:06.118
but Twitter as a tool
to disrupt legacy media.

1390
00:57:06.161 --> 00:57:08.076
- I would be on a live TV
set, and I'd be mid-sentence,

1391
00:57:08.120 --> 00:57:10.427
they'd be like, "Hold on,
Kellyanne, breaking news."

1392
00:57:10.470 --> 00:57:11.819
And I'd say, "Oh, God
forbid, what happened?"

1393
00:57:11.863 --> 00:57:14.735
And they'd say, "Your
boss, your candidate

1394
00:57:14.779 --> 00:57:16.215
just tweeted the following..."

1395
00:57:16.258 --> 00:57:17.738
And I'd look at it, and they'd
ask me to comment on it.

1396
00:57:17.782 --> 00:57:21.438
But he literally would
make news instantaneously.

1397
00:57:21.481 --> 00:57:23.962
- And maybe a lot of that
innermost decision-making

1398
00:57:24.005 --> 00:57:26.573
and kind of tuning of messaging

1399
00:57:26.617 --> 00:57:29.968
was happening by the
man himself, and...

1400
00:57:31.404 --> 00:57:36.409
and the speed and the agility
that you need to surf...

1401
00:57:37.541 --> 00:57:41.240
a near real-time medium,
which is what Twitter is,

1402
00:57:41.283 --> 00:57:43.634
that might be a huge
strategic advantage.

1403
00:57:43.677 --> 00:57:45.766
- I just can't think
of a worse candidate

1404
00:57:45.810 --> 00:57:47.159
in the Twitter era.

1405
00:57:47.202 --> 00:57:50.031
I mean, Hillary isn't like
a bite-sized candidate

1406
00:57:50.075 --> 00:57:52.991
who would just fire off things
without thinking about them.

1407
00:57:53.034 --> 00:57:54.949
And to her credit,
a lot of people

1408
00:57:54.993 --> 00:57:57.256
would like a president who puts
a lot of thought into things

1409
00:57:57.299 --> 00:57:59.824
before they release
them to the world.

1410
00:58:02.522 --> 00:58:06.178
There would be a whole team
to approve a simple tweet.

1411
00:58:07.309 --> 00:58:08.746
Ultimately that...

1412
00:58:08.789 --> 00:58:11.052
I think that people
saw that and could tell

1413
00:58:11.096 --> 00:58:15.492
a lack of spontaneity
or genuine emotion.

1414
00:58:15.535 --> 00:58:19.626
- I am honored to
be here amongst you

1415
00:58:19.670 --> 00:58:23.500
on behalf of what really
made this country great,

1416
00:58:23.543 --> 00:58:25.676
working people, men and women.

1417
00:58:26.677 --> 00:58:29.157
- The new currency...

1418
00:58:30.419 --> 00:58:34.119
that's rare and needed in
politics is no longer money.

1419
00:58:35.033 --> 00:58:37.862
It's attention. It's
name recognition.

1420
00:58:37.905 --> 00:58:39.472
That is the new currency.

1421
00:58:39.516 --> 00:58:44.216
And Hillary Clinton and Donald
Trump had oodles of that.

1422
00:58:44.259 --> 00:58:46.566
The difference is
how they used it.

1423
00:58:46.610 --> 00:58:48.350
[stark electronic music]

1424
00:58:48.394 --> 00:58:51.615
Hillary Clinton tried to
stay out of the spotlight,

1425
00:58:51.658 --> 00:58:54.139
away from interviews,
and just rest on the fact

1426
00:58:54.182 --> 00:58:56.358
that she had the biggest
brand in American politics.

1427
00:58:56.402 --> 00:58:58.665
- [Reporter]
Secretary Clinton...

1428
00:58:58.709 --> 00:59:00.275
we haven't heard
from you in a month.

1429
00:59:00.319 --> 00:59:03.061
- Yeah, maybe when I finished
talking to the people here.

1430
00:59:03.104 --> 00:59:04.628
How's that?

1431
00:59:04.671 --> 00:59:07.979
- She tried to walk in a parade.
To cordon off the press...

1432
00:59:08.022 --> 00:59:11.635
They were put in this
moving rope line.

1433
00:59:11.678 --> 00:59:13.637
- This is the worst
visual metaphor.

1434
00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:15.943
Before you could say she's
not talking to reporters,

1435
00:59:15.987 --> 00:59:17.554
but you can't cover not talking.

1436
00:59:17.597 --> 00:59:19.947
You can show this image over
and over again, and it's awful.

1437
00:59:19.991 --> 00:59:22.559
- Her press strategy was
essentially to ignore us.

1438
00:59:22.602 --> 00:59:24.778
She felt like the front runner

1439
00:59:24.822 --> 00:59:27.433
and didn't think that she
necessarily needed to talk

1440
00:59:27.476 --> 00:59:29.478
to the gaggle of reporters

1441
00:59:29.522 --> 00:59:32.743
who traveled with her
everywhere, covering

1442
00:59:32.786 --> 00:59:35.136
- I am so happy to have
all of you with me!

1443
00:59:35.180 --> 00:59:36.268
- [Reporter] Have you missed us?

1444
00:59:36.311 --> 00:59:38.400
- I've been just
waiting for this moment!

1445
00:59:38.444 --> 00:59:40.489
- The relationship between
the Clinton campaign

1446
00:59:40.533 --> 00:59:43.188
and the press is just
hostile on both sides.

1447
00:59:43.231 --> 00:59:44.972
And it's early for that.

1448
00:59:45.016 --> 00:59:46.844
- She gave very few interviews.

1449
00:59:46.887 --> 00:59:50.238
She did almost no print
interviews that I'm aware of

1450
00:59:50.282 --> 00:59:51.892
before the general election.

1451
00:59:51.936 --> 00:59:54.416
- The criticism is directed at
the Clinton campaign on this.

1452
00:59:54.460 --> 00:59:56.897
We're trying to wrap
her in bubble wrap

1453
00:59:56.941 --> 00:59:58.333
this entire campaign

1454
00:59:58.377 --> 01:00:01.423
and not let her actually
associate with real people.

1455
01:00:01.467 --> 01:00:03.774
- Nobody wanted any kind
of moment to go wrong

1456
01:00:03.817 --> 01:00:05.471
and go viral and look bad.

1457
01:00:05.514 --> 01:00:07.865
And so I think there
was an extreme caution

1458
01:00:07.908 --> 01:00:11.956
that prohibited her from
having more of those moments

1459
01:00:11.999 --> 01:00:13.914
that could have
ultimately helped her.

1460
01:00:15.699 --> 01:00:19.746
- We saw a systematic
difference between members

1461
01:00:19.790 --> 01:00:23.271
of the what we call Trump
tribe and Clinton tribe.

1462
01:00:23.315 --> 01:00:27.188
just more retweets, more tweets,
more replies, more activity

1463
01:00:28.363 --> 01:00:32.672
per account from the Trump
tribe versus the Clinton tribe.

1464
01:00:32.716 --> 01:00:34.892
And so we describe
that as a passion gap.

1465
01:00:36.154 --> 01:00:38.678
And at some point, you know,
someone on our team said,

1466
01:00:38.722 --> 01:00:42.639
"It's almost like there's
a public awakening."

1467
01:00:42.682 --> 01:00:45.467
We're seeing something happening

1468
01:00:45.511 --> 01:00:48.993
in the nature of the
conversation where...

1469
01:00:50.429 --> 01:00:55.434
Donald Trump seems like a
far more serious possibility

1470
01:00:56.130 --> 01:01:00.308
than the polling numbers or
anything else would indicate.

1471
01:01:00.352 --> 01:01:02.659
- I think that the key
is that Donald Trump's

1472
01:01:02.702 --> 01:01:04.791
defiant authenticity resonated,

1473
01:01:04.835 --> 01:01:07.141
and that's something I
think all politicians

1474
01:01:07.185 --> 01:01:08.273
can learn from.

1475
01:01:08.316 --> 01:01:09.970
That doesn't mean simply play

1476
01:01:10.014 --> 01:01:11.798
to the lowest common
denominator every day,

1477
01:01:11.842 --> 01:01:13.191
But it does mean,
for God's sakes,

1478
01:01:13.234 --> 01:01:15.497
be yourself and talk like
a goddamn human being.

1479
01:01:16.847 --> 01:01:18.675
- What's what's something that
you always carry with you?

1480
01:01:18.718 --> 01:01:19.588
- Hot sauce.

1481
01:01:20.546 --> 01:01:21.329
- Really?

1482
01:01:21.373 --> 01:01:22.156
- Yeah. Yeah.

1483
01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:23.375
- Really?

1484
01:01:23.418 --> 01:01:24.681
- Are you getting in
formation right now?

1485
01:01:24.724 --> 01:01:25.507
[laughing]

1486
01:01:25.551 --> 01:01:26.378
- Hot sauce?

1487
01:01:26.421 --> 01:01:28.728
- Hot sauce in my bag swag?

1488
01:01:28.772 --> 01:01:29.598
- Hot sauce.

1489
01:01:29.642 --> 01:01:30.730
- Really?
- Yes!

1490
01:01:30.774 --> 01:01:31.775
- Now, listen, I
want you to know

1491
01:01:31.818 --> 01:01:32.993
people are gonna
see this and say,

1492
01:01:33.037 --> 01:01:34.081
"Okay, she's pandering
to black people."

1493
01:01:34.125 --> 01:01:36.649
[laughing]

1494
01:01:36.693 --> 01:01:37.955
- Okay.

1495
01:01:37.998 --> 01:01:39.217
Is it working?

1496
01:01:39.260 --> 01:01:42.089
[laughing]

1497
01:01:42.133 --> 01:01:46.267
- Don't forget what a terrible
campaign Hillary Clinton ran.

1498
01:01:47.225 --> 01:01:49.662
Her campaign, to this day,

1499
01:01:49.706 --> 01:01:51.664
nobody can remember
a thing about it.

1500
01:01:51.708 --> 01:01:53.057
- [Interviewer] A
quick soundcheck.

1501
01:01:53.100 --> 01:01:56.190
What was written on Donald
Trump's baseball cap?

1502
01:01:56.234 --> 01:01:57.757
- "Make America great again".

1503
01:01:57.801 --> 01:02:01.065
- Make America great again.
- Make America great again.

1504
01:02:01.108 --> 01:02:02.501
- Oh, make America great again?

1505
01:02:02.544 --> 01:02:04.938
- [Interviewer] What was
Hillary's campaign slogan?

1506
01:02:04.982 --> 01:02:07.506
- I'm still trying
to figure it out.

1507
01:02:07.549 --> 01:02:08.594
- Ready for Hillary?

1508
01:02:08.637 --> 01:02:09.421
I don't know.

1509
01:02:09.464 --> 01:02:10.509
- I don't remember.

1510
01:02:11.423 --> 01:02:12.772
- Together?

1511
01:02:12.816 --> 01:02:14.121
Forward together?

1512
01:02:14.165 --> 01:02:15.644
- I don't know.

1513
01:02:15.688 --> 01:02:17.777
- Oh, I don't actually know
what it said on her plane.

1514
01:02:17.821 --> 01:02:19.257
What was her slogan?

1515
01:02:19.300 --> 01:02:21.955
- And she had "stronger
together", whatever that means.

1516
01:02:21.999 --> 01:02:23.870
- On one point,
being this well-known

1517
01:02:23.914 --> 01:02:26.786
made it hard for her campaign
to craft a narrative,

1518
01:02:26.830 --> 01:02:28.788
but it also made it
just hard for Hillary.

1519
01:02:28.832 --> 01:02:32.226
I mean, she's lived in this
cloistered, rarefied world

1520
01:02:32.270 --> 01:02:33.532
for a very long time.

1521
01:02:33.575 --> 01:02:35.403
And so, to emerge
from that world

1522
01:02:35.447 --> 01:02:38.058
and try to really
connect to voters

1523
01:02:38.102 --> 01:02:42.236
suffering in these steel
towns where Trumpism took hold

1524
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:44.325
I think was very difficult.

1525
01:02:44.369 --> 01:02:45.587
The sounds so old school,

1526
01:02:45.631 --> 01:02:47.938
but we wouldn't see
any Hillary yard signs.

1527
01:02:47.981 --> 01:02:49.766
You saw a ton of
Trump yard signs.

1528
01:02:49.809 --> 01:02:52.812
[anxious music]

1529
01:02:52.856 --> 01:02:55.946
- I never got the sense that
they had really captured

1530
01:02:55.989 --> 01:02:58.731
the energy of people out there,

1531
01:02:58.775 --> 01:03:00.472
connected with them in that way.

1532
01:03:00.515 --> 01:03:02.648
Often you get a sense
that a candidate

1533
01:03:02.691 --> 01:03:07.696
will fight for every inch, and
she just never exuded that.

1534
01:03:08.523 --> 01:03:11.004
- It was all bullshit.

1535
01:03:11.048 --> 01:03:12.876
It was all sloganeering.

1536
01:03:14.703 --> 01:03:16.836
- I'm just chilling
in Cedar Rapids.

1537
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.317
I try to figure
out how we get them

1538
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.450
to have Pokemon Go-to-the-polls.

1539
01:03:22.494 --> 01:03:24.322
[audience laughing]

1540
01:03:24.365 --> 01:03:27.760
[audience cheering]

1541
01:03:27.804 --> 01:03:29.414
- I think just viscerally

1542
01:03:29.457 --> 01:03:32.330
she missed the anger that had
taken root in the electorate.

1543
01:03:32.373 --> 01:03:35.855
- Secretary Clinton does
represent the establishment.

1544
01:03:35.899 --> 01:03:38.815
I represent, I hope,
ordinary Americans

1545
01:03:38.858 --> 01:03:41.818
and, by the way who are
not all that enamored

1546
01:03:41.861 --> 01:03:43.341
with the establishment.

1547
01:03:43.384 --> 01:03:45.430
- It's always been the case,
going back to 2008, even,

1548
01:03:45.473 --> 01:03:48.172
that Hillary Clinton just
wasn't an inspirational figure,

1549
01:03:48.215 --> 01:03:49.826
whether it was her
speaking ability,

1550
01:03:49.869 --> 01:03:51.131
whether it was her record,

1551
01:03:51.175 --> 01:03:55.005
whether it was the
way she saw the world.

1552
01:03:55.048 --> 01:03:56.658
It was an issue
that her campaign

1553
01:03:56.702 --> 01:03:58.312
was in complete denial about.

1554
01:03:58.356 --> 01:04:01.185
They thought it was
Bernie who convinced

1555
01:04:01.228 --> 01:04:04.188
a lot of left-leaning
people not to like Hillary.

1556
01:04:04.231 --> 01:04:06.103
But in fact, this
was just a fact

1557
01:04:06.146 --> 01:04:08.453
that Sanders and his
campaign saw and exploited.

1558
01:04:08.496 --> 01:04:10.194
It was a preexisting
condition for Hillary

1559
01:04:10.237 --> 01:04:12.109
that people just
didn't really like her.

1560
01:04:12.152 --> 01:04:14.851
[anxious music]

1561
01:04:16.504 --> 01:04:21.466
- We have won, at this point,
45% of pledge delegates.

1562
01:04:22.336 --> 01:04:25.731
But we have only earned
7% of superdelegates.

1563
01:04:27.994 --> 01:04:30.605
[crowd booing]

1564
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.000
So in other words, the
way the system works

1565
01:04:34.044 --> 01:04:37.134
is you have
establishment candidates

1566
01:04:37.177 --> 01:04:39.919
who win virtually all
of the superdelegates.

1567
01:04:39.963 --> 01:04:41.965
- NBC News is now
declaring Hillary Clinton

1568
01:04:42.008 --> 01:04:43.749
the presumptive
Democratic nominee.

1569
01:04:43.792 --> 01:04:44.793
[group cheering]

1570
01:04:44.837 --> 01:04:47.013
[crowd cheering]

1571
01:04:51.583 --> 01:04:55.369
- At the Democratic Convention,
I went down to the protests,

1572
01:04:55.413 --> 01:04:57.545
the Bernie or Bust protests.

1573
01:04:57.589 --> 01:04:59.417
[protestors shouting]

1574
01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:00.766
Kids from all over the country,

1575
01:05:00.809 --> 01:05:02.420
people in their teens and 20s,

1576
01:05:02.463 --> 01:05:05.423
who said the Democratic Party
has lost me for a generation,

1577
01:05:05.466 --> 01:05:06.772
I don't have something
to believe in

1578
01:05:06.815 --> 01:05:08.687
if Bernie is not on
top of the ticket.

1579
01:05:09.688 --> 01:05:11.168
- [Protestors] We
won't vote for Hillary!

1580
01:05:11.211 --> 01:05:12.996
- [Reporter] Many Sanders
backers just aren't willing

1581
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:14.301
to shift their loyalties

1582
01:05:14.345 --> 01:05:16.825
from the U.S. Senator's
progressive platform.

1583
01:05:16.869 --> 01:05:19.089
- I mean, that was
a tense convention.

1584
01:05:19.132 --> 01:05:20.960
- Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine

1585
01:05:21.004 --> 01:05:23.484
want to build an economy
that works for everyone...

1586
01:05:23.528 --> 01:05:24.485
[crowd booing]

1587
01:05:24.529 --> 01:05:26.661
not just the people at the top.

1588
01:05:26.705 --> 01:05:29.273
[crowd booing]

1589
01:05:35.061 --> 01:05:37.977
[crowd shouting]

1590
01:05:38.021 --> 01:05:39.631
- If I didn't know any
better, I would have thought

1591
01:05:39.674 --> 01:05:41.198
I was at Bernie Sanders'
convention last night.

1592
01:05:41.241 --> 01:05:42.634
It rose to the rafters.

1593
01:05:42.677 --> 01:05:45.202
[crowd booing]

1594
01:05:48.031 --> 01:05:50.642
- There was a sense that the DNC

1595
01:05:50.685 --> 01:05:53.775
had kind of tilted the
table in her favor,

1596
01:05:53.819 --> 01:05:55.647
there hadn't really
been a fair contest

1597
01:05:55.690 --> 01:05:57.431
between Hillary and Bernie.

1598
01:05:57.475 --> 01:05:58.998
- There's no
question to my mind,

1599
01:05:59.042 --> 01:06:02.306
and I think no question to
any objective observer's mind,

1600
01:06:02.349 --> 01:06:05.265
that the DNC was
supporting Hillary Clinton

1601
01:06:05.309 --> 01:06:07.964
and was in opposition
to our campaign.

1602
01:06:08.007 --> 01:06:09.313
- Rigged! Rigged!

1603
01:06:09.356 --> 01:06:11.010
Remember hashtag rigged?

1604
01:06:11.054 --> 01:06:14.057
How offensive to
say it was rigged.

1605
01:06:14.100 --> 01:06:18.452
How dare you say that our
democracy could be rigged?

1606
01:06:18.496 --> 01:06:20.150
How dare you say that?

1607
01:06:20.193 --> 01:06:21.673
And, it was rigged.

1608
01:06:21.716 --> 01:06:24.197
- I actually think Hillary
and some of her top advisors

1609
01:06:24.241 --> 01:06:26.808
are more angry at Bernie Sanders
than they are Donald Trump.

1610
01:06:26.852 --> 01:06:29.550
They thought that he gave her
sort of a lukewarm endorsement

1611
01:06:29.594 --> 01:06:31.117
when he finally
got around to it.

1612
01:06:31.161 --> 01:06:34.294
- And I move that Hillary
Clinton be selected

1613
01:06:34.338 --> 01:06:37.384
as the nominee of
the Democratic Party

1614
01:06:37.428 --> 01:06:39.604
for President of
the United States

1615
01:06:39.647 --> 01:06:41.606
[audience cheering]

1616
01:06:41.649 --> 01:06:45.697
- Senator Sanders has moved
in the spirit of unity

1617
01:06:45.740 --> 01:06:47.481
to suspend the rules.

1618
01:06:51.703 --> 01:06:54.662
- Bernie Sanders lit
the place on fire.

1619
01:06:54.706 --> 01:06:58.101
I mean, he came out of
nowhere and God bless him.

1620
01:06:59.972 --> 01:07:01.234
Bernie was an Independent.

1621
01:07:01.278 --> 01:07:03.062
He agreed to run in
Democratic primaries,

1622
01:07:03.106 --> 01:07:04.977
but he was an Independent.

1623
01:07:05.021 --> 01:07:07.545
And of course there are
going to be associations

1624
01:07:07.588 --> 01:07:10.504
and friendships and loyalty
built up to somebody

1625
01:07:10.548 --> 01:07:12.985
who's been a Democrat
their whole life.

1626
01:07:13.029 --> 01:07:14.378
- That's why you're
an insurgent.

1627
01:07:14.421 --> 01:07:17.250
You're an insurgent because
there's a status quo

1628
01:07:17.294 --> 01:07:18.643
establishment in the party,

1629
01:07:18.686 --> 01:07:20.688
and there's an
establishment candidate.

1630
01:07:21.863 --> 01:07:26.868
- And so, my friends, it is
with humility, determination,

1631
01:07:27.826 --> 01:07:31.786
and boundless confidence
in America's promise

1632
01:07:31.830 --> 01:07:35.138
that I accept your nomination

1633
01:07:35.181 --> 01:07:38.010
For President of
the United States

1634
01:07:38.054 --> 01:07:39.446
[audience cheering]

1635
01:07:39.490 --> 01:07:41.535
- I do think that she
matched up with the mood

1636
01:07:41.579 --> 01:07:43.450
of the electorate
particularly badly.

1637
01:07:44.277 --> 01:07:46.627
A lot of people felt
the system was rigged,

1638
01:07:46.671 --> 01:07:49.021
and the Clintons, for
many people, and fairly,

1639
01:07:49.065 --> 01:07:51.023
were a symbol of
a rigged system.

1640
01:07:51.067 --> 01:07:54.287
- And so, you put
all that together,

1641
01:07:54.331 --> 01:07:56.681
you have a real big
problem for Hillary Clinton

1642
01:07:56.724 --> 01:07:59.771
going into that election
with a divided party

1643
01:07:59.814 --> 01:08:01.816
and an arrogant campaign

1644
01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:03.688
that believed it
could not be defeated.

1645
01:08:03.731 --> 01:08:06.995
[uneasy music]

1646
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:11.087
♪ We are the
champions my friends ♪

1647
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.002
[crowd cheering]

1648
01:08:14.046 --> 01:08:16.962
- Even Trump may have
underestimated Trump.

1649
01:08:17.005 --> 01:08:20.444
I knew he wanted to
be the great disruptor

1650
01:08:20.487 --> 01:08:21.836
who would attract more eyeballs

1651
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:23.273
and create this reality show.

1652
01:08:23.316 --> 01:08:26.145
I knew he wanted to do
that. That was clear.

1653
01:08:26.189 --> 01:08:27.973
But did he want to
stay the whole way

1654
01:08:28.016 --> 01:08:29.583
and make it into a
general election?

1655
01:08:29.627 --> 01:08:32.412
Because if he did, he
was gonna be there.

1656
01:08:32.456 --> 01:08:34.284
- Friends...

1657
01:08:34.327 --> 01:08:35.981
delegates...

1658
01:08:36.024 --> 01:08:38.244
and fellow Americans...

1659
01:08:38.288 --> 01:08:40.116
I humbly...

1660
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:44.294
and gratefully accept
your nomination

1661
01:08:44.337 --> 01:08:47.949
for the presidency
of the United States.

1662
01:08:47.993 --> 01:08:50.996
[audience cheering]

1663
01:08:53.041 --> 01:08:56.001
- I suspect that Donald Trump

1664
01:08:56.044 --> 01:08:59.396
did not decide he really
wanted to be president

1665
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.268
until he turned to
face Hillary Clinton.

1666
01:09:02.312 --> 01:09:05.750
- This is the legacy
of Hillary Clinton:

1667
01:09:05.793 --> 01:09:10.668
death, destruction,
terrorism, and weakness

1668
01:09:11.799 --> 01:09:15.020
[audience cheering]

1669
01:09:15.063 --> 01:09:18.197
- It was gonna be one of
the more negative campaigns

1670
01:09:18.241 --> 01:09:19.590
in the history of the country.

1671
01:09:19.633 --> 01:09:20.895
Why?

1672
01:09:20.939 --> 01:09:22.506
Because I might be able
to get you to stay home

1673
01:09:22.549 --> 01:09:24.812
instead of voting
for Hillary Clinton.

1674
01:09:24.856 --> 01:09:27.554
- Hillary Clinton was
a perfect foil for him.

1675
01:09:27.598 --> 01:09:30.253
She embodied, or could
be made to embody,

1676
01:09:30.296 --> 01:09:32.255
everything that he
said he was against.

1677
01:09:33.299 --> 01:09:34.996
And some of this was
just Trump's gut.

1678
01:09:36.128 --> 01:09:39.871
And some of this is Steve
Bannon and Kellyanne Conway

1679
01:09:39.914 --> 01:09:44.789
and others building an
actual, coherent worldview

1680
01:09:44.832 --> 01:09:46.660
around Trump's gut.

1681
01:09:48.967 --> 01:09:51.491
- I always knew Hillary Clinton
could lose the election,

1682
01:09:51.535 --> 01:09:52.971
which is one way of
answering the question

1683
01:09:53.014 --> 01:09:55.278
of when I thought Donald
Trump could win the election.

1684
01:09:55.321 --> 01:09:56.496
- [Reporter] Down the
stretch they come.

1685
01:09:56.540 --> 01:09:57.845
We've been talking
about Hillary Clinton

1686
01:09:57.889 --> 01:09:58.977
opening up that lead.

1687
01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:00.108
- [Reporter] He
struggles with women.

1688
01:10:00.152 --> 01:10:01.675
He struggles with minorities.

1689
01:10:01.719 --> 01:10:02.981
- [Reporter] Mr.
Trump, with the support

1690
01:10:03.024 --> 01:10:05.810
of 2% of African
American voters.

1691
01:10:05.853 --> 01:10:10.467
- By the time I came on board,
we were down in the polls.

1692
01:10:10.510 --> 01:10:13.165
I said we're way behind,
the window's closing,

1693
01:10:13.209 --> 01:10:13.992
but it's still open.

1694
01:10:14.035 --> 01:10:14.906
We're way behind.

1695
01:10:14.949 --> 01:10:16.690
And he said, oh, the polls.

1696
01:10:16.734 --> 01:10:19.040
And I said, I looked at the
polls, and she's winning,

1697
01:10:19.084 --> 01:10:20.999
but she doesn't
have to. You can.

1698
01:10:21.042 --> 01:10:23.088
- She had a lot more paths
to victory than he did.

1699
01:10:23.131 --> 01:10:25.873
- He can win Florida, he
can win North Carolina,

1700
01:10:25.917 --> 01:10:29.529
and he can win Ohio
and still be short.

1701
01:10:29.573 --> 01:10:31.052
That's important.

1702
01:10:31.096 --> 01:10:34.317
He can win Arizona and still
be short. He can win Utah.

1703
01:10:34.360 --> 01:10:36.841
- And then, even then,
he's gotta go and get

1704
01:10:36.884 --> 01:10:39.626
maybe it's a Michigan
or a Wisconsin

1705
01:10:39.670 --> 01:10:41.193
to put him over the top.

1706
01:10:41.237 --> 01:10:44.631
- A normal Republican can
not take your terms, frankly,

1707
01:10:44.675 --> 01:10:46.459
I hate to say this,
cannot think in terms

1708
01:10:46.503 --> 01:10:47.591
of bringing in Michigan.

1709
01:10:47.634 --> 01:10:50.463
- He represented a
great push forward

1710
01:10:50.507 --> 01:10:54.641
in our demonstrable
quest to bust through

1711
01:10:54.685 --> 01:10:57.470
Hillary Clinton's
very real blue wall,

1712
01:10:57.514 --> 01:10:59.516
beginning with
the upper Midwest.

1713
01:10:59.559 --> 01:11:04.042
So, Michigan, Wisconsin,
Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

1714
01:11:04.085 --> 01:11:06.218
- They've taken our jobs
out of Pennsylvania.

1715
01:11:06.262 --> 01:11:08.655
We're gonna be bringing 'em
back, folks. Believe me.

1716
01:11:08.699 --> 01:11:09.613
[audience cheering]

1717
01:11:09.656 --> 01:11:12.616
We're bringing 'em back.

1718
01:11:12.659 --> 01:11:16.315
- This is industrial.
This is blue collar.

1719
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.143
There are a lot of towns

1720
01:11:18.186 --> 01:11:21.973
that have been hurt
by globalization.

1721
01:11:22.016 --> 01:11:24.018
- We talked a lot about the
white working-class vote,

1722
01:11:24.062 --> 01:11:26.151
particularly white
working-class men

1723
01:11:26.194 --> 01:11:27.631
in those Rust Belt states.

1724
01:11:27.674 --> 01:11:29.720
Hillary is notably
weak with these voters,

1725
01:11:29.763 --> 01:11:32.157
losing them by as much
as two-to-one or more,

1726
01:11:32.200 --> 01:11:34.333
10 to 15 points weaker
than Barack Obama

1727
01:11:34.377 --> 01:11:35.726
with white, working-class men.

1728
01:11:35.769 --> 01:11:37.293
- We were competing in states

1729
01:11:37.336 --> 01:11:40.861
that Obama-Biden
had carried twice.

1730
01:11:42.515 --> 01:11:46.867
But had also elected a
Republican statewide as senator

1731
01:11:46.911 --> 01:11:48.652
and/or governor in the interim,

1732
01:11:48.695 --> 01:11:51.437
and where Hillary Clinton
had never gotten to 50%

1733
01:11:51.481 --> 01:11:53.134
and stayed there for very long.

1734
01:11:53.178 --> 01:11:56.747
- Hillary Clinton just
didn't go to these states.

1735
01:11:56.790 --> 01:11:59.793
She was hanging out
in places like Arizona

1736
01:11:59.837 --> 01:12:02.405
and Texas, inexplicably.

1737
01:12:02.448 --> 01:12:04.581
- When your allies are
putting a lot of effort

1738
01:12:04.624 --> 01:12:08.889
into red states right
now, Arizona, Utah,

1739
01:12:08.933 --> 01:12:10.978
you're doing this even though
it's still neck-and-neck

1740
01:12:11.022 --> 01:12:13.198
in a lot of the traditional
battleground states,

1741
01:12:13.241 --> 01:12:15.983
Ohio and Iowa, Florida.

1742
01:12:16.027 --> 01:12:17.985
Are you guys getting
over-confident?

1743
01:12:18.029 --> 01:12:19.378
- There's a special opportunity

1744
01:12:19.422 --> 01:12:21.337
that popped up late in Arizona.

1745
01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:22.729
It is possible to win it.

1746
01:12:24.340 --> 01:12:27.168
- Arizona has not, 12 of the
past 13 presidential elections,

1747
01:12:27.212 --> 01:12:28.692
has not voted for a Democrat.

1748
01:12:28.735 --> 01:12:30.650
And so you saw this
extreme confidence

1749
01:12:30.694 --> 01:12:33.131
on the part of the campaign
that they could expand the map,

1750
01:12:33.174 --> 01:12:35.046
that they could
bring in new voters

1751
01:12:35.089 --> 01:12:36.917
in places like
Arizona and Georgia

1752
01:12:36.961 --> 01:12:39.137
that are sort of going purple.

1753
01:12:39.180 --> 01:12:43.010
- While Donald Trump
is up in these states,

1754
01:12:43.054 --> 01:12:46.318
saying I'm gonna make
America great again.

1755
01:12:46.362 --> 01:12:49.365
[somber music]

1756
01:12:49.408 --> 01:12:52.237
- In August, after she
had a 10-point lead

1757
01:12:52.280 --> 01:12:54.979
after her convention, after
a successful convention,

1758
01:12:55.022 --> 01:12:57.851
she basically disappeared in
the Hamptons to fundraise.

1759
01:12:59.679 --> 01:13:01.289
Her campaign would get
very defensive about this:

1760
01:13:01.333 --> 01:13:03.640
we need money, we need a lot
of money to go against Trump.

1761
01:13:03.683 --> 01:13:06.338
But every single day,
Trump was doing rallies.

1762
01:13:06.382 --> 01:13:07.557
[jet whooshing]

1763
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.472
[stark electronic music]

1764
01:13:09.515 --> 01:13:13.040
Then she re-emerged Labor
Day, and she was sick,

1765
01:13:13.084 --> 01:13:15.434
and she just had sort
of a string of bad luck.

1766
01:13:15.478 --> 01:13:17.784
- I think that was a very
troubling moment for her.

1767
01:13:17.828 --> 01:13:19.743
That was her worst
weekend in many ways.

1768
01:13:19.786 --> 01:13:22.572
September 11th, very
early in the morning,

1769
01:13:22.615 --> 01:13:24.574
she had her spill.

1770
01:13:24.617 --> 01:13:27.141
[tense music]

1771
01:13:30.318 --> 01:13:34.061
- She's supposed to fight all
of these different things,

1772
01:13:34.105 --> 01:13:36.586
and she can't make it
15 feet to her car.

1773
01:13:36.629 --> 01:13:39.066
Give me a break.
Give me a break.

1774
01:13:39.110 --> 01:13:42.113
[audience cheering]

1775
01:13:46.813 --> 01:13:48.336
- Thank God she was
okay health-wise.

1776
01:13:48.380 --> 01:13:50.469
But the worst thing for
her was two days earlier,

1777
01:13:50.513 --> 01:13:52.471
when she was caught on tape.

1778
01:13:52.515 --> 01:13:56.040
You know, to just be
grossly generalistic,

1779
01:13:57.345 --> 01:13:59.957
you could put half
of Trump's supporters

1780
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.263
into what I call the
basket of deplorables.

1781
01:14:02.307 --> 01:14:04.788
- Hillary Clinton
on Friday evening,

1782
01:14:04.831 --> 01:14:06.790
"basket of deplorables"
already entered

1783
01:14:06.833 --> 01:14:09.009
into the annals
of campaign flubs.

1784
01:14:09.053 --> 01:14:11.577
- They are not a
basket of anything.

1785
01:14:11.621 --> 01:14:15.886
They are Americans and
they deserve your respect.

1786
01:14:15.929 --> 01:14:18.671
- [Narrator] People
like you, you and you...

1787
01:14:18.715 --> 01:14:19.977
Deplorable.

1788
01:14:20.020 --> 01:14:21.544
You know what's deplorable?

1789
01:14:21.587 --> 01:14:24.068
Hillary Clinton
viciously demonizing

1790
01:14:24.111 --> 01:14:26.374
hardworking people like you.

1791
01:14:27.419 --> 01:14:31.379
- It as a reflection perfectly
of what the coastal elites

1792
01:14:31.423 --> 01:14:34.252
in the United States
feel about the people

1793
01:14:34.295 --> 01:14:37.777
trapped in the
working-class counties

1794
01:14:37.821 --> 01:14:39.300
and cities of the country

1795
01:14:39.344 --> 01:14:41.912
that have been decimated
by globalization.

1796
01:14:43.217 --> 01:14:47.439
- And it was like, wow, we
thought you thought that of us,

1797
01:14:47.483 --> 01:14:48.875
and now we know for sure.

1798
01:14:50.573 --> 01:14:52.618
[upbeat music]

1799
01:14:52.662 --> 01:14:55.665
[audience cheering]

1800
01:14:59.451 --> 01:15:01.540
- She is a really
gifted debater,

1801
01:15:01.584 --> 01:15:03.542
maybe one of the best
debaters we've seen

1802
01:15:03.586 --> 01:15:04.761
on a stage in a long time.

1803
01:15:04.804 --> 01:15:07.851
- Why won't he release
his tax returns?

1804
01:15:07.894 --> 01:15:10.114
And I think there may
be a couple of reasons.

1805
01:15:10.157 --> 01:15:13.857
First, maybe he's not as
rich as he says he is.

1806
01:15:13.900 --> 01:15:17.556
Second, maybe he's not as
charitable as he claims to be.

1807
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:18.775
- We're gonna come up with
three or four clever things

1808
01:15:18.818 --> 01:15:21.125
that were gonna hit
Trump with tonight,

1809
01:15:21.168 --> 01:15:23.475
and you'll say them in
the following sequence.

1810
01:15:23.519 --> 01:15:26.609
- I call it Trumped
up trickle down,

1811
01:15:26.652 --> 01:15:28.567
because that's exactly
what it would be.

1812
01:15:28.611 --> 01:15:31.265
- And she was picking out
her outfit to look perfect.

1813
01:15:31.309 --> 01:15:33.703
- He's showing up with
a tie down to his ankle.

1814
01:15:33.746 --> 01:15:35.748
Give me the microphone.
I'm ready to go.

1815
01:15:35.792 --> 01:15:38.882
- I don't believe that
Hillary has the stamina.

1816
01:15:38.925 --> 01:15:39.709
- [Moderator] Let's
let her respond.

1817
01:15:39.752 --> 01:15:41.580
- Woo! Okay!

1818
01:15:41.624 --> 01:15:44.148
[audience laughing]

1819
01:15:44.191 --> 01:15:46.977
- He stood there,
waiting to be exposed.

1820
01:15:47.020 --> 01:15:49.980
- As soon as he travels
to 112 countries

1821
01:15:50.023 --> 01:15:53.766
and negotiates a peace
deal, a cease fire,

1822
01:15:53.810 --> 01:15:55.594
or even spends 11 hours

1823
01:15:55.638 --> 01:15:58.597
testifying in front of a
congressional committee,

1824
01:15:58.641 --> 01:16:00.904
he can talk to me about stamina.

1825
01:16:00.947 --> 01:16:02.558
- But Hillary invested a lot,

1826
01:16:02.601 --> 01:16:06.126
instead of doing rallies
that 20,000 people

1827
01:16:06.170 --> 01:16:07.998
on an amazing night would see,

1828
01:16:08.041 --> 01:16:12.002
how about we just bunker down
and invest in these debates?

1829
01:16:12.045 --> 01:16:14.613
- And I just left Detroit,
and I just left Philadelphia,

1830
01:16:14.657 --> 01:16:15.962
and I just, you
know, you've seen me,

1831
01:16:16.006 --> 01:16:17.485
I've been all over the place.

1832
01:16:18.530 --> 01:16:21.141
You decided to stay
home, and that's okay.

1833
01:16:21.185 --> 01:16:23.317
- I think Donald
just criticized me

1834
01:16:23.361 --> 01:16:26.103
for preparing for this debate.

1835
01:16:27.104 --> 01:16:28.235
And yes, I did.

1836
01:16:29.149 --> 01:16:30.760
And you know what
else I prepared for?

1837
01:16:30.803 --> 01:16:32.500
I prepared to be President.

1838
01:16:32.544 --> 01:16:34.241
And I think that's a good thing.

1839
01:16:34.285 --> 01:16:36.200
[audience applauding]

1840
01:16:36.243 --> 01:16:39.246
- I think the consensus was
that she won all of them.

1841
01:16:39.290 --> 01:16:42.119
- Did anybody see that
debate last night?

1842
01:16:42.162 --> 01:16:43.120
[audience cheering]

1843
01:16:43.163 --> 01:16:45.644
[somber music]

1844
01:16:45.688 --> 01:16:46.993
Oh!

1845
01:16:47.037 --> 01:16:47.951
Yes!

1846
01:16:50.040 --> 01:16:52.259
One down, two to go.

1847
01:16:52.303 --> 01:16:53.609
- I want a word or phrase

1848
01:16:53.652 --> 01:16:57.264
to describe Donald Trump's
performance tonight.

1849
01:16:57.308 --> 01:16:59.136
- Strong start, weak finish.

1850
01:16:59.179 --> 01:17:00.833
- Missed opportunities.

1851
01:17:00.877 --> 01:17:02.443
- Bombastic.

1852
01:17:02.487 --> 01:17:03.662
- Not presidential.

1853
01:17:03.706 --> 01:17:04.794
- Sloppy.

1854
01:17:04.837 --> 01:17:06.012
- I want a word or
phrase to describe

1855
01:17:06.056 --> 01:17:07.666
Hillary Clinton's performance.

1856
01:17:07.710 --> 01:17:08.624
- Prepared.

1857
01:17:08.667 --> 01:17:09.450
- Firm.

1858
01:17:09.494 --> 01:17:10.756
- Powerful.

1859
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:13.324
- I think she had one
of the best debate preps

1860
01:17:13.367 --> 01:17:15.021
that I have seen in
the last 25 years.

1861
01:17:15.065 --> 01:17:17.676
- I think she came
across more presidential.

1862
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:18.721
- It seemed, for all the world,

1863
01:17:18.764 --> 01:17:20.548
like something of a victory lap.

1864
01:17:20.592 --> 01:17:21.941
- Yeah, and I think
Hillary Clinton

1865
01:17:21.985 --> 01:17:23.551
deserves a victory
lap this morning.

1866
01:17:23.595 --> 01:17:25.858
[crowd cheering]

1867
01:17:25.902 --> 01:17:27.468
- One history
professor, meanwhile,

1868
01:17:27.512 --> 01:17:30.036
says that Donald Trump will be

1869
01:17:30.080 --> 01:17:32.082
the next leader of our country.

1870
01:17:32.125 --> 01:17:34.693
- Professor Allan Lichtman
from American University,

1871
01:17:34.737 --> 01:17:36.347
good enough to join us now.

1872
01:17:37.304 --> 01:17:38.915
- I delivered my
Trump prediction

1873
01:17:38.958 --> 01:17:43.006
in a Washington Post
interview in September, 2016,

1874
01:17:43.049 --> 01:17:45.269
and people wondered if
I had gotten too old

1875
01:17:45.312 --> 01:17:46.879
and lost my sanity.

1876
01:17:46.923 --> 01:17:50.666
My system forgets the
pundits, forgets the polls,

1877
01:17:50.709 --> 01:17:53.712
does not look at the day-to-day
events of the campaign.

1878
01:17:53.756 --> 01:17:56.933
I don't look at debates.
I don't look at ads.

1879
01:17:56.976 --> 01:17:59.370
I don't look at campaign tricks.

1880
01:17:59.413 --> 01:18:01.720
And I predict
elections in advance.

1881
01:18:01.764 --> 01:18:04.288
In other words, I put
myself on the line

1882
01:18:04.331 --> 01:18:09.032
and have been doing so
successfully since 1984.

1883
01:18:09.075 --> 01:18:13.471
And for 32 years, everyone has
asked me the same question:

1884
01:18:13.514 --> 01:18:16.256
Couldn't there be
an October surprise?

1885
01:18:16.300 --> 01:18:19.129
Couldn't there be
something so extraordinary

1886
01:18:19.999 --> 01:18:21.740
that it could turn
around your prediction?

1887
01:18:21.784 --> 01:18:24.787
And there never has
been an October surprise

1888
01:18:24.830 --> 01:18:26.179
that's doomed a candidate.

1889
01:18:26.223 --> 01:18:28.704
Everybody talks about it,
but it's never happened.

1890
01:18:31.924 --> 01:18:35.014
[gentle vocal music]

1891
01:18:49.681 --> 01:18:51.683
- I just start kissing
them. It's like a magnet.

1892
01:18:51.727 --> 01:18:52.510
You just kiss.

1893
01:18:52.553 --> 01:18:53.337
[laughing]

1894
01:18:53.380 --> 01:18:54.599
I don't even wait.

1895
01:18:54.642 --> 01:18:56.035
And when you're a star,
they let you do it.

1896
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:56.906
You can do anything.

1897
01:18:56.949 --> 01:18:57.776
- Whatever you want.

1898
01:18:57.820 --> 01:18:59.299
- Grab 'em by the pussy.

1899
01:18:59.343 --> 01:19:00.257
[laughing]

1900
01:19:00.300 --> 01:19:01.301
You can do anything.

1901
01:19:03.826 --> 01:19:06.959
- My assumption from the
bus is that he was done.

1902
01:19:07.003 --> 01:19:08.656
- A recording of Donald Trump,

1903
01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:11.050
made more than a decade
ago, has surfaced.

1904
01:19:11.094 --> 01:19:13.923
It is lewd, it is vulgar,
and we caution you,

1905
01:19:13.966 --> 01:19:16.012
you won't want young
children to hear it.

1906
01:19:16.055 --> 01:19:17.317
- Every single Republican

1907
01:19:17.361 --> 01:19:19.319
is going to have to
answer the question,

1908
01:19:19.363 --> 01:19:21.713
what did you do the
day you saw the tape

1909
01:19:21.757 --> 01:19:24.629
of this man boasting about
grabbing a woman's pussy?

1910
01:19:24.672 --> 01:19:25.456
Period!

1911
01:19:25.499 --> 01:19:26.631
- All right. We'll be-

1912
01:19:26.674 --> 01:19:27.458
Will you please stop
saying that word?

1913
01:19:27.501 --> 01:19:28.285
My daughter is listening.

1914
01:19:28.328 --> 01:19:31.505
[overlapping shouts]

1915
01:19:31.549 --> 01:19:33.072
Don't tell me you're
offended when I say pussy,

1916
01:19:33.116 --> 01:19:35.379
but you're not offended
when Donald Trump says it

1917
01:19:35.422 --> 01:19:36.684
- Exactly.
- I am very offended.

1918
01:19:36.728 --> 01:19:39.122
- What was your response
when you first heard it?

1919
01:19:39.165 --> 01:19:40.514
- Horrible remarks.

1920
01:19:40.558 --> 01:19:42.560
They're remarks you
certainly don't want to hear

1921
01:19:42.603 --> 01:19:44.997
from anyone, much less a
presidential candidate.

1922
01:19:46.259 --> 01:19:51.395
- This was a powerful individual
speaking freely and openly

1923
01:19:51.438 --> 01:19:53.789
about sexually
predatory behavior.

1924
01:19:53.832 --> 01:19:55.573
- I saw it, and I said
the election is over.

1925
01:19:55.616 --> 01:19:57.053
There's no way you
come back from this.

1926
01:19:57.096 --> 01:19:58.445
Folks are gonna stay home.

1927
01:19:58.489 --> 01:20:01.100
- This race is over

1928
01:20:01.144 --> 01:20:03.929
Tomorrow morning, the
money will dry up,

1929
01:20:03.973 --> 01:20:05.931
the Republicans
will start to hide.

1930
01:20:05.975 --> 01:20:08.847
[anxious music]

1931
01:20:08.891 --> 01:20:10.240
- One top Republican said to me,

1932
01:20:10.283 --> 01:20:12.633
we're gonna to see the
fastest cut and run

1933
01:20:12.677 --> 01:20:14.331
in American political history.

1934
01:20:14.374 --> 01:20:17.160
- I'm not sure of the Republican
party's gonna survive.

1935
01:20:17.203 --> 01:20:20.337
- The fundraisers, the donors,
they're all walking away.

1936
01:20:20.380 --> 01:20:24.254
- I'm out. I can no longer
endorse Donald Donald Trump.

1937
01:20:24.297 --> 01:20:26.299
- I think Donald Trump
should step aside,

1938
01:20:26.343 --> 01:20:28.214
which I've been asked
many times today.

1939
01:20:28.258 --> 01:20:29.085
Yes, I do.

1940
01:20:30.651 --> 01:20:33.829
- I passed and a TV...

1941
01:20:33.872 --> 01:20:36.309
that literally said Trump's
female campaign manager

1942
01:20:36.353 --> 01:20:37.702
expected to quit.

1943
01:20:37.745 --> 01:20:39.530
You know, she's got
four young children.

1944
01:20:39.573 --> 01:20:43.316
She's a devout Catholic.
There's no way she can stay.

1945
01:20:43.360 --> 01:20:45.405
- How she stood up
there and defended him

1946
01:20:45.449 --> 01:20:47.451
when nobody else was
willing to do so.

1947
01:20:47.494 --> 01:20:51.237
- This is suggesting
sexual assault, and-

1948
01:20:51.281 --> 01:20:52.804
- That's a very
unfortunate phrase,

1949
01:20:52.848 --> 01:20:54.284
and people really
should stop using that.

1950
01:20:54.327 --> 01:20:55.633
- Why?

1951
01:20:55.676 --> 01:20:57.156
- Because I know him
better, and I know better.

1952
01:20:57.200 --> 01:20:58.375
- But it's what he said.

1953
01:20:58.418 --> 01:20:59.680
- He did not say the
word sexual assault.

1954
01:20:59.724 --> 01:21:00.812
- No.

1955
01:21:00.856 --> 01:21:02.422
- And I remember
watching her, thinking,

1956
01:21:02.466 --> 01:21:04.903
A, that's a very courageous
thing for a woman to be doing;

1957
01:21:04.947 --> 01:21:07.123
secondly, it was
really helping him.

1958
01:21:07.166 --> 01:21:10.778
It managed to take the
sting out of the tail.

1959
01:21:10.822 --> 01:21:14.043
- Nobody was saying,
oh, it's nothing.

1960
01:21:14.086 --> 01:21:15.827
- [Reporter] This was
locker room banter,

1961
01:21:15.871 --> 01:21:17.437
I apologize for it.

1962
01:21:18.874 --> 01:21:20.788
- Mr. Trump apologized for it.

1963
01:21:20.832 --> 01:21:22.268
He spoke about it.

1964
01:21:22.312 --> 01:21:24.270
- I've never said
I'm a perfect person

1965
01:21:24.314 --> 01:21:26.794
nor pretended to be
someone that I'm not.

1966
01:21:26.838 --> 01:21:30.233
I've said some foolish things,
but there's a big difference

1967
01:21:30.276 --> 01:21:33.453
between the words and
actions of other people.

1968
01:21:33.497 --> 01:21:36.065
Bill Clinton has
actually abused women.

1969
01:21:36.108 --> 01:21:38.632
- And I felt it was
really important

1970
01:21:38.676 --> 01:21:42.636
for us to talk about what he
would do for you as president,

1971
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:46.902
transport you away from this
moment and into his presidency

1972
01:21:46.945 --> 01:21:48.860
and the promises he was making.

1973
01:21:48.904 --> 01:21:51.994
And I did famously say there's
a big difference to voters,

1974
01:21:52.037 --> 01:21:53.299
and indeed all Americans,

1975
01:21:53.343 --> 01:21:56.955
between what offends you
and what affects you,

1976
01:21:56.999 --> 01:21:58.478
and voters were
making that choice.

1977
01:21:58.522 --> 01:22:00.219
- All men do it,
and women do it.

1978
01:22:00.263 --> 01:22:01.829
- Honestly, you
gotta stick with him.

1979
01:22:01.873 --> 01:22:03.048
Hillary's no better.

1980
01:22:03.092 --> 01:22:04.397
I mean, she's just
lying through her teeth

1981
01:22:04.441 --> 01:22:05.964
left and right,
over and over again.

1982
01:22:06.008 --> 01:22:08.662
Here's the thing. He's not
running to be the Pope.

1983
01:22:08.706 --> 01:22:11.404
Look at the culture
of our country.

1984
01:22:11.448 --> 01:22:14.973
- I don't care! Nobody cares!

1985
01:22:15.017 --> 01:22:18.150
- Hillary Clinton said that
the women who make allegations

1986
01:22:18.194 --> 01:22:19.369
deserve to be heard,

1987
01:22:19.412 --> 01:22:21.458
except the ones who
accused her husband!

1988
01:22:21.501 --> 01:22:23.112
- If I remember, October
7th this happens,

1989
01:22:23.155 --> 01:22:25.636
October 8th, we have a
meeting in Trump Tower.

1990
01:22:25.679 --> 01:22:27.290
He knew people
were going to have

1991
01:22:28.117 --> 01:22:29.292
some tough recommendations.

1992
01:22:29.335 --> 01:22:30.989
Reince Priebus told
him to drop out,

1993
01:22:31.033 --> 01:22:35.254
drop out or stay in and
lose by the most in history.

1994
01:22:35.298 --> 01:22:40.085
But, as is Donald J. Trump's
custom, he did it his way.

1995
01:22:40.129 --> 01:22:43.306
There was no time for him
to be inauthentic and phony.

1996
01:22:43.349 --> 01:22:44.916
And so I think people saw that,

1997
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.659
and they probably thought he
would fold in the next debate,

1998
01:22:48.702 --> 01:22:50.748
but it almost reinvigorated him.

1999
01:22:50.791 --> 01:22:51.967
And then of course, you know

2000
01:22:52.010 --> 01:22:53.664
the Clinton accusers
were there as well.

2001
01:22:55.100 --> 01:22:57.102
- There you see in the middle
of your screen, Donald Trump,

2002
01:22:57.146 --> 01:22:59.975
but from left to
right, Kathleen Willey

2003
01:23:00.018 --> 01:23:02.499
Juanita Broaddrick, then
Donald Trump in the middle.

2004
01:23:02.542 --> 01:23:06.068
These are women who have
made very strong accusations

2005
01:23:06.111 --> 01:23:07.591
against Bill Clinton.

2006
01:23:08.940 --> 01:23:10.724
- It was several people's idea.

2007
01:23:11.638 --> 01:23:13.379
And...

2008
01:23:13.423 --> 01:23:17.253
it was an idea that had been
floated for a while though.

2009
01:23:17.296 --> 01:23:18.994
Hillary Clinton, and
really Mark Cuban,

2010
01:23:19.037 --> 01:23:21.344
made a big deal that he was
gonna go sit in the front row

2011
01:23:21.387 --> 01:23:22.910
and torment Donald Trump.

2012
01:23:23.911 --> 01:23:26.131
And so it was like, well,
we'll see you one Mark Cuban,

2013
01:23:26.175 --> 01:23:29.526
and we'll raise you four
or five Clinton accusers.

2014
01:23:30.440 --> 01:23:31.571
[chuckles]

2015
01:23:31.615 --> 01:23:33.051
See how much fun I had?

2016
01:23:33.095 --> 01:23:34.531
[dramatic music]

2017
01:23:34.574 --> 01:23:38.578
What he's basically saying
is, hey, go fuck yourself.

2018
01:23:38.622 --> 01:23:42.104
I'm not going to
be attacked by you,

2019
01:23:42.147 --> 01:23:45.890
who's now all of a sudden
the champion of women.

2020
01:23:45.933 --> 01:23:49.546
- If you look at a Bill
Clinton, far worse.

2021
01:23:49.589 --> 01:23:51.765
Mine are words,
and his was action.

2022
01:23:51.809 --> 01:23:54.333
- What he basically says is

2023
01:23:55.421 --> 01:24:00.252
both sides are guilty, let's
muddy the contrast here,

2024
01:24:00.296 --> 01:24:02.037
even though Hillary Clinton
is in some ways the victim,

2025
01:24:02.080 --> 01:24:04.039
obviously, of her
husband's infidelity.

2026
01:24:04.082 --> 01:24:08.086
- So you can say any
way you want to say it,

2027
01:24:08.130 --> 01:24:10.828
but Bill Clinton was
abusive to women.

2028
01:24:10.871 --> 01:24:13.048
Hillary Clinton attacked
those same women

2029
01:24:13.918 --> 01:24:15.876
and attacked them viciously.

2030
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:17.400
Four of them are here tonight.

2031
01:24:17.443 --> 01:24:20.751
- He gave the right wing
something to hold on to.

2032
01:24:20.794 --> 01:24:22.057
And they really-

2033
01:24:22.100 --> 01:24:23.710
The only thing uniting
the Republican coalition

2034
01:24:23.754 --> 01:24:25.669
isn't Donald Trump; it's
hatred of Hillary Clinton.

2035
01:24:25.712 --> 01:24:26.800
[intense music]

2036
01:24:26.844 --> 01:24:29.107
[faint chatter]

2037
01:24:29.151 --> 01:24:31.153
- And he does have a way,
this is what many people

2038
01:24:31.196 --> 01:24:33.242
right of center in this
country like about him,

2039
01:24:33.285 --> 01:24:36.810
of not letting
Democrats off the hook

2040
01:24:36.854 --> 01:24:38.116
for their bad behavior.

2041
01:24:38.160 --> 01:24:39.248
I'd like to know, Anderson,

2042
01:24:39.291 --> 01:24:40.945
why aren't you
bringing up the emails?

2043
01:24:40.988 --> 01:24:42.381
I'd like to know why aren't you

2044
01:24:42.425 --> 01:24:43.252
getting to the emails?
- We brought up the emails.

2045
01:24:43.295 --> 01:24:44.166
- No, it hasn't. It hasn't.

2046
01:24:44.209 --> 01:24:46.124
And it hasn't been
finished at all.

2047
01:24:46.168 --> 01:24:47.560
- Trump had a lot of luck,

2048
01:24:47.604 --> 01:24:50.781
in that the FBI was...

2049
01:24:50.824 --> 01:24:52.826
very vocal about
their investigation

2050
01:24:52.870 --> 01:24:54.654
into Hillary's private server.

2051
01:24:54.698 --> 01:24:58.441
- There is evidence that
they were extremely careless

2052
01:24:58.484 --> 01:25:00.443
in their handling
of very sensitive,

2053
01:25:00.486 --> 01:25:02.140
highly classified information.

2054
01:25:02.184 --> 01:25:04.186
- [Reporter] Questions
over a classified email.

2055
01:25:04.229 --> 01:25:05.448
- Email account.

2056
01:25:05.491 --> 01:25:07.145
- [Reporter] Emails,
in one form or another,

2057
01:25:07.189 --> 01:25:10.148
they have been dogging Clinton
throughout this campaign.

2058
01:25:10.192 --> 01:25:12.150
- Two years after
she had left office

2059
01:25:12.194 --> 01:25:13.543
for it to become clear

2060
01:25:13.586 --> 01:25:15.545
that she had been using
this private email

2061
01:25:15.588 --> 01:25:18.461
and that she had handed
over 30,000 emails,

2062
01:25:18.504 --> 01:25:21.290
and that 31,000, almost 32,000,

2063
01:25:21.333 --> 01:25:24.162
had been deleted
in this process.

2064
01:25:24.206 --> 01:25:29.428
- She deleted the emails...
She has to go to jail

2065
01:25:29.472 --> 01:25:31.169
His narrative of
"Crooked Hillary",

2066
01:25:31.213 --> 01:25:32.649
he had this giant data point

2067
01:25:32.692 --> 01:25:34.868
of this looming
FBI investigation.

2068
01:25:34.912 --> 01:25:37.654
- I didn't think I'd say
this, but I'm going to say it.

2069
01:25:37.697 --> 01:25:40.918
And I hate to say
it, but if I win,

2070
01:25:40.961 --> 01:25:43.834
I am going to instruct
my Attorney General

2071
01:25:44.878 --> 01:25:49.318
to get a special prosecutor
to look into your situation.

2072
01:25:49.361 --> 01:25:52.625
- It's just awfully good that
someone with the temperament

2073
01:25:52.669 --> 01:25:56.542
of Donald Trump is not in charge
of the law in our country.

2074
01:25:56.586 --> 01:25:57.804
- Because you'd be in jail.

2075
01:25:57.848 --> 01:25:58.805
- [Moderator] Secretary Clinton-

2076
01:25:58.849 --> 01:26:00.981
[audience laughing and cheering]

2077
01:26:01.025 --> 01:26:03.897
- The fact that he was
willing to say to her face

2078
01:26:03.941 --> 01:26:06.770
on national television,
"You belong in jail,"

2079
01:26:06.813 --> 01:26:09.294
is exactly what voters
wanted to hear from him

2080
01:26:09.338 --> 01:26:11.470
to know that he was serious.

2081
01:26:11.514 --> 01:26:14.473
- [Crowd] Lock her
up! Lock her up!

2082
01:26:14.517 --> 01:26:16.562
Lock her up! Lock her up!

2083
01:26:18.042 --> 01:26:19.522
- It's all right.

2084
01:26:19.565 --> 01:26:21.176
- We're gonna beat her on
November 8th. That's better.

2085
01:26:21.219 --> 01:26:22.351
[audience cheering]

2086
01:26:22.394 --> 01:26:26.006
- We're gonna beat
her on November 8th.

2087
01:26:26.050 --> 01:26:27.660
- Three weeks isn't
typically too early

2088
01:26:27.704 --> 01:26:30.228
for the October surprise.

2089
01:26:30.272 --> 01:26:33.057
But with our current
short attention spans,

2090
01:26:33.100 --> 01:26:35.929
courtesy of social media,
Twitter and other things,

2091
01:26:35.973 --> 01:26:37.801
three weeks actually,
I think, was too early.

2092
01:26:37.844 --> 01:26:40.195
Instead, there was time for
the Comey letter to come out

2093
01:26:40.238 --> 01:26:43.067
and resuscitate all those
concerns about Hillary Clinton.

2094
01:26:44.590 --> 01:26:46.897
- They're reopening
the investigation

2095
01:26:46.940 --> 01:26:48.681
into crooked Hillary Clinton.

2096
01:26:50.422 --> 01:26:53.251
Crooked Hillary. She is crooked.

2097
01:26:53.295 --> 01:26:55.035
She is a crooked one.

2098
01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:58.300
- A new possible
investigation by the FBI

2099
01:26:58.343 --> 01:27:00.171
into Hillary Clinton's emails.

2100
01:27:00.215 --> 01:27:02.260
- [Reporter] Just 11
days before the election,

2101
01:27:02.304 --> 01:27:04.393
the announcement
creating shock waves.

2102
01:27:04.436 --> 01:27:07.134
The FBI reopening
the investigation

2103
01:27:07.178 --> 01:27:09.702
into Hillary
Clinton's email use.

2104
01:27:09.746 --> 01:27:11.965
- We are 11 days out

2105
01:27:12.009 --> 01:27:14.838
from perhaps the most
important national election

2106
01:27:14.881 --> 01:27:16.143
of our lifetimes.

2107
01:27:16.187 --> 01:27:18.450
So the American
people deserve to get

2108
01:27:18.494 --> 01:27:21.627
the full and complete
facts immediately.

2109
01:27:21.671 --> 01:27:25.283
- The FBI situation
significantly hurt

2110
01:27:25.327 --> 01:27:27.285
- Their outrage today
certainly suggests

2111
01:27:27.329 --> 01:27:29.156
that they are
nervous about this.

2112
01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:31.898
They are furious that this came
11 days before election day.

2113
01:27:31.942 --> 01:27:34.161
- Donald Trump,
meanwhile, and his team

2114
01:27:34.205 --> 01:27:36.903
clearly reveling in
this latest plot twist.

2115
01:27:36.947 --> 01:27:40.820
- The FBI, after
discovering new email...

2116
01:27:42.953 --> 01:27:44.781
The news this morning is...

2117
01:27:44.824 --> 01:27:48.219
This is bigger than Watergate.

2118
01:27:48.263 --> 01:27:49.351
This is bigger.

2119
01:27:49.394 --> 01:27:51.222
- And if you look
at the trend line,

2120
01:27:51.266 --> 01:27:54.747
Hillary had peaked shortly
after the three debates,

2121
01:27:54.791 --> 01:27:57.794
which she was thought to
have won by most observers.

2122
01:27:57.837 --> 01:28:00.623
And then there was
a gradual tightening

2123
01:28:00.666 --> 01:28:03.016
all the way up
until election day,

2124
01:28:03.060 --> 01:28:06.455
and the Comey letter in the
waning days of the campaign

2125
01:28:06.498 --> 01:28:08.021
accelerated that.

2126
01:28:08.065 --> 01:28:11.155
The question, though, that
a lot of Democrats had,

2127
01:28:11.198 --> 01:28:12.635
why was she ever in a position

2128
01:28:12.678 --> 01:28:14.463
where that could
have been decisive?

2129
01:28:14.506 --> 01:28:16.465
To most people's minds,

2130
01:28:16.508 --> 01:28:20.207
to most of the conventional
political class's thinking,

2131
01:28:20.251 --> 01:28:23.385
this is someone she should
have been beating by 20 points.

2132
01:28:23.428 --> 01:28:25.604
This was a bigger
issue that she had.

2133
01:28:25.648 --> 01:28:26.997
It was a bigger issue

2134
01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:29.652
that she was never
able to put Trump away.

2135
01:28:32.219 --> 01:28:33.308
[jet whooshing]

2136
01:28:33.351 --> 01:28:34.439
- [Air Traffic
Control] One, zero.

2137
01:28:34.483 --> 01:28:36.267
Runway two, three
clear for takeoff.

2138
01:28:36.311 --> 01:28:38.443
Contact departure is 126.55

2139
01:28:38.487 --> 01:28:41.403
Have a nice flight, and thanks
for making ATC great again.

2140
01:28:43.230 --> 01:28:45.058
- [Reporter] Tonight,
Donald Trump,

2141
01:28:45.102 --> 01:28:47.017
with one last
battleground blitz.

2142
01:28:47.060 --> 01:28:48.932
A whirlwind sprint
to the finish.

2143
01:28:48.975 --> 01:28:50.847
Eight States in 24 hours

2144
01:28:51.804 --> 01:28:53.763
- Part of it was the
reality of budget.

2145
01:28:53.806 --> 01:28:56.548
We were understaffed and
under-resourced financially

2146
01:28:56.592 --> 01:28:57.767
and had to become creative.

2147
01:28:57.810 --> 01:29:00.335
[jet whooshing]

2148
01:29:00.378 --> 01:29:02.380
- You have one to
make every dream

2149
01:29:02.424 --> 01:29:04.948
you ever dreamed for
your country come true.

2150
01:29:06.515 --> 01:29:07.951
[crowd applauding]

2151
01:29:07.994 --> 01:29:11.476
Real change also means
restoring honesty to government.

2152
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:13.478
First thing you should
do is get rid of Clinton.

2153
01:29:15.350 --> 01:29:18.135
- But our two greatest assets
all through the campaign

2154
01:29:18.178 --> 01:29:19.832
were Donald J. Trump
and Michael R. Pence.

2155
01:29:19.876 --> 01:29:21.138
And they were willing
to go anywhere.

2156
01:29:21.181 --> 01:29:22.531
And they were willing to
go to many stops a day

2157
01:29:22.574 --> 01:29:24.184
those last four weeks.

2158
01:29:24.228 --> 01:29:26.970
They were doing five, six,
seven stops a day each.

2159
01:29:27.013 --> 01:29:29.276
- This is the last
day of our campaign.

2160
01:29:29.320 --> 01:29:30.930
Who would have believed it?

2161
01:29:30.974 --> 01:29:34.412
They say it's the single
greatest movement,

2162
01:29:34.456 --> 01:29:36.153
politically speaking...

2163
01:29:36.196 --> 01:29:37.546
[audience cheering]

2164
01:29:37.589 --> 01:29:39.286
in the history of this country.

2165
01:29:39.330 --> 01:29:40.679
Could you believe that?
Can you believe it?

2166
01:29:40.723 --> 01:29:43.421
[audience cheering]

2167
01:29:43.465 --> 01:29:44.988
- Coming in, yes,
we do see the lines,

2168
01:29:45.031 --> 01:29:46.642
we see the rallies,
we see all the people.

2169
01:29:46.685 --> 01:29:48.252
But will they vote?

2170
01:29:48.295 --> 01:29:51.951
No, they waited in line in a
tent for two days in the rain

2171
01:29:51.995 --> 01:29:54.606
just to have a seat in
a 20,000 person arena,

2172
01:29:54.650 --> 01:29:57.348
but they're not going to
show up on election day.

2173
01:29:57.392 --> 01:30:02.397
- So it's now officially
Tuesday, November 8th.

2174
01:30:03.354 --> 01:30:06.357
[audience cheering]

2175
01:30:09.360 --> 01:30:11.797
Did you ever think you'd
be hearing a major speech

2176
01:30:11.841 --> 01:30:14.365
at around close to one
o'clock in the morning?

2177
01:30:14.409 --> 01:30:15.627
Are we crazy?

2178
01:30:15.671 --> 01:30:16.454
[audience cheering]

2179
01:30:16.498 --> 01:30:18.325
And we don't need...

2180
01:30:18.369 --> 01:30:22.329
We don't need Jay-Z or Beyonce.

2181
01:30:22.373 --> 01:30:26.769
We don't need Jon Bon Jovi.

2182
01:30:26.812 --> 01:30:29.032
We don't need Lady Gaga.

2183
01:30:31.556 --> 01:30:36.561
All we need is great ideas
to make America great again.

2184
01:30:37.127 --> 01:30:39.129
That's all we need.
That's all we need.

2185
01:30:39.172 --> 01:30:42.175
[audience cheering]

2186
01:30:46.179 --> 01:30:48.225
- Hillary's closing
message was very much

2187
01:30:48.268 --> 01:30:51.968
about Trump's unfitness
for the presidency.

2188
01:30:52.011 --> 01:30:54.449
She thought she could sway
a lot of Republican-leaning,

2189
01:30:54.492 --> 01:30:57.626
suburban, white,
college educated women

2190
01:30:57.669 --> 01:31:01.281
by pointing out how
how offensive Trump was

2191
01:31:01.325 --> 01:31:02.500
to so many people.

2192
01:31:02.544 --> 01:31:06.417
- There is a clear
choice in this election.

2193
01:31:07.636 --> 01:31:12.771
A choice between
division or unity.

2194
01:31:12.815 --> 01:31:16.209
Between strong,
steady leadership

2195
01:31:16.253 --> 01:31:20.953
or a loose cannon who could
put everything at risk.

2196
01:31:20.997 --> 01:31:22.259
[booing]

2197
01:31:22.302 --> 01:31:25.523
Because none of us, none
of us want to wake up

2198
01:31:25.567 --> 01:31:30.267
on Wednesday morning and
wish we had done more.

2199
01:31:30.310 --> 01:31:32.617
[anxious music]

2200
01:31:32.661 --> 01:31:35.968
I think we can all agree
it's been a long campaign.

2201
01:31:36.012 --> 01:31:38.971
But tomorrow, you get to
pick our next president.

2202
01:31:39.015 --> 01:31:41.713
- Her campaign is not
cocky, but confident.

2203
01:31:41.757 --> 01:31:44.934
They believe that victory
is well within their grasp.

2204
01:31:44.977 --> 01:31:47.545
She is holding her
election night watch party

2205
01:31:47.589 --> 01:31:49.765
in an atrium that
is conveniently

2206
01:31:49.808 --> 01:31:54.073
and symbolically equipped,
Gayle, with a glass ceiling.

2207
01:31:54.117 --> 01:31:57.381
- We have the
presidency at about 89%

2208
01:31:57.424 --> 01:31:59.209
For Hillary Clinton.

2209
01:31:59.252 --> 01:32:00.819
- I'm calling it.

2210
01:32:00.863 --> 01:32:04.301
Hillary Clinton, the winner
of this presidential election.

2211
01:32:04.344 --> 01:32:06.259
- The president's race is over.

2212
01:32:06.303 --> 01:32:08.348
- Let's make history together.

2213
01:32:08.392 --> 01:32:10.742
I'm Hillary Clinton
and, one last time,

2214
01:32:10.786 --> 01:32:12.570
I approve this message.

2215
01:32:17.749 --> 01:32:21.274
- The day before the election
I got a call, off the record,

2216
01:32:21.318 --> 01:32:22.667
from senior members
of the campaign

2217
01:32:22.711 --> 01:32:24.364
who were affiliated
with the RNC.

2218
01:32:24.408 --> 01:32:26.802
And they were calling a
bunch of editors in chief,

2219
01:32:26.845 --> 01:32:28.804
and they're saying, "Look,
we're gonna lose tomorrow,

2220
01:32:28.847 --> 01:32:30.849
but we want you to know
it's not our fault.

2221
01:32:30.893 --> 01:32:33.504
We've got the greatest data
operation in human history."

2222
01:32:33.548 --> 01:32:35.506
And I said, "Okay, well, how
bad do you think it's gonna be?

2223
01:32:35.550 --> 01:32:36.986
You think you're gonna feel...

2224
01:32:37.029 --> 01:32:39.336
You think you're gonna
keep the Senate?"

2225
01:32:39.379 --> 01:32:40.946
Long beat.

2226
01:32:40.990 --> 01:32:43.122
And the operative replied, "We
feel good about the House."

2227
01:32:43.166 --> 01:32:46.691
[intense electronic music]

2228
01:32:59.617 --> 01:33:02.359
[crowd cheering]

2229
01:33:10.846 --> 01:33:12.848
- She wins her
state of Illinois,

2230
01:33:12.891 --> 01:33:16.155
New Jersey, and Massachusetts,
another 11 electoral votes,

2231
01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.637
Maryland, carries the state
of Rhode Island, Delaware.

2232
01:33:19.681 --> 01:33:22.205
- Donald Trump has
won the state of Ohio.

2233
01:33:22.248 --> 01:33:23.946
No Republican has ever
won the White House

2234
01:33:23.989 --> 01:33:25.774
without winning Ohio.

2235
01:33:25.817 --> 01:33:27.950
- And we are about
to make a major call.

2236
01:33:27.993 --> 01:33:30.779
Donald Trump has won the
state of North Carolina.

2237
01:33:30.822 --> 01:33:33.085
This is exactly what
he needed to do.

2238
01:33:34.347 --> 01:33:35.348
- Anderson, this
night is turning out

2239
01:33:35.392 --> 01:33:37.612
to be a real nail-biter.

2240
01:33:37.655 --> 01:33:40.310
[anxious music]

2241
01:33:41.703 --> 01:33:43.356
And CNN projects Donald Trump

2242
01:33:43.400 --> 01:33:45.663
will carry the state of Florida.

2243
01:33:45.707 --> 01:33:48.492
[crowd groaning]

2244
01:33:49.798 --> 01:33:51.147
- I wouldn't call
anything encouraging

2245
01:33:51.190 --> 01:33:52.278
for Hillary Clinton
at the moment,

2246
01:33:52.322 --> 01:33:54.237
to be honest with
you, my friend.

2247
01:33:54.280 --> 01:33:55.673
- He will win Wisconsin

2248
01:33:55.717 --> 01:33:57.370
with its 10 electoral votes.

2249
01:33:57.414 --> 01:33:59.329
He's cracked the
so-called blue wall

2250
01:33:59.372 --> 01:34:01.766
that Hillary Clinton
that tried to create.

2251
01:34:01.810 --> 01:34:03.420
[somber music]

2252
01:34:03.463 --> 01:34:05.640
- [Reporter] Donald Trump has
won the state of Pennsylvania.

2253
01:34:05.683 --> 01:34:08.773
- [Reporter] That is
the race, frankly.

2254
01:34:08.817 --> 01:34:11.297
There is no path forward
for Hillary Clinton.

2255
01:34:13.735 --> 01:34:16.476
[crowd cheering]

2256
01:34:19.436 --> 01:34:22.047
- Everybody should head home.

2257
01:34:22.091 --> 01:34:23.527
You should get some sleep.

2258
01:34:24.702 --> 01:34:28.314
- Hillary Clinton has
called Donald Trump

2259
01:34:28.358 --> 01:34:29.664
to concede the race.

2260
01:34:33.668 --> 01:34:35.800
- [Reporter] Donald Trump
wins the presidency.

2261
01:34:35.844 --> 01:34:38.281
[grim music]

2262
01:34:55.428 --> 01:34:59.911
- What happened here
is the more competent

2263
01:34:59.955 --> 01:35:04.263
and qualified candidate,
Secretary Clinton,

2264
01:35:04.307 --> 01:35:07.092
got 3 million more votes

2265
01:35:07.136 --> 01:35:09.704
across the country
than Donald Trump got.

2266
01:35:09.747 --> 01:35:11.270
- Look, I don't think-

2267
01:35:11.314 --> 01:35:14.665
You can't argue that much
with the Clinton sales pitch.

2268
01:35:14.709 --> 01:35:16.841
You could argue could
have been better,

2269
01:35:16.885 --> 01:35:19.409
but in the end they
won the popular vote.

2270
01:35:19.452 --> 01:35:21.106
This wasn't a race
that they lost

2271
01:35:21.150 --> 01:35:23.805
because they didn't
have a message

2272
01:35:23.848 --> 01:35:24.936
that could win enough votes.

2273
01:35:24.980 --> 01:35:26.546
- And it wasn't
like a nail-biter.

2274
01:35:26.590 --> 01:35:30.942
I mean, he lost by
3 million votes.

2275
01:35:30.986 --> 01:35:34.119
That is a larger number
than Nixon beat Humphrey.

2276
01:35:34.163 --> 01:35:36.556
It's a larger number
than Kennedy beat Nixon.

2277
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:39.951
That is a significant
victory for Hillary.

2278
01:35:39.995 --> 01:35:42.171
- Well, hold on a second.
That's not the race.

2279
01:35:42.214 --> 01:35:44.651
The race is to zig and
zag through the country

2280
01:35:44.695 --> 01:35:46.653
and beat the person in
the electoral college.

2281
01:35:46.697 --> 01:35:48.481
And he did that, and
he beat her in places

2282
01:35:48.525 --> 01:35:50.788
where Republicans
typically don't win.

2283
01:35:50.832 --> 01:35:53.791
- They took Wisconsin,
Michigan, and Pennsylvania

2284
01:35:53.835 --> 01:35:56.533
and places like
that for granted,

2285
01:35:56.576 --> 01:35:58.274
that they were gonna to win them

2286
01:35:58.317 --> 01:36:00.711
without having to
do a whole lot,

2287
01:36:00.755 --> 01:36:02.844
without having to put a
big get out the vote effort

2288
01:36:02.887 --> 01:36:04.367
on the ground.

2289
01:36:04.410 --> 01:36:07.196
- She refused to spend any
money for grassroots turnout

2290
01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:11.548
in Michigan, in Indiana,
in Pennsylvania,

2291
01:36:11.591 --> 01:36:14.681
because her data dummy
pollsters told her

2292
01:36:14.725 --> 01:36:16.901
she had it in the
bag based on polling.

2293
01:36:16.945 --> 01:36:20.383
- There's gonna be an
incredible, long, deep,

2294
01:36:20.426 --> 01:36:23.647
rigorous autopsy
done on the polling

2295
01:36:23.690 --> 01:36:25.605
that pervaded this campaign.

2296
01:36:25.649 --> 01:36:28.217
Public polling and the
Clinton campaign zone data,

2297
01:36:28.260 --> 01:36:30.262
which obviously was
wrong in a lot of ways.

2298
01:36:30.306 --> 01:36:34.571
- The big falsehood was that
her ground game was good.

2299
01:36:34.614 --> 01:36:36.399
It actually wasn't.

2300
01:36:36.442 --> 01:36:38.967
And she never went to Wisconsin,

2301
01:36:39.010 --> 01:36:40.446
which is something we
all should have noticed

2302
01:36:40.490 --> 01:36:41.491
in retrospect.

2303
01:36:41.534 --> 01:36:43.058
- I think a big
swing in Wisconsin

2304
01:36:43.101 --> 01:36:45.277
was Hillary never coming here.

2305
01:36:45.321 --> 01:36:46.931
I think she just
assumed that Wisconsin

2306
01:36:46.975 --> 01:36:48.193
was gonna go her way,

2307
01:36:48.237 --> 01:36:49.804
and that didn't work
out too well for her.

2308
01:36:49.847 --> 01:36:53.111
- This is a state that Hillary
Clinton hasn't even visited

2309
01:36:53.155 --> 01:36:57.289
since the Democratic
Convention over the summer.

2310
01:36:57.333 --> 01:36:58.725
- Wisconsin's always tight,

2311
01:36:58.769 --> 01:37:01.119
and what happens in the end
is Democrats always win.

2312
01:37:01.163 --> 01:37:02.860
But that was before
Governor Walker

2313
01:37:02.904 --> 01:37:04.340
had instituted a
series of reforms

2314
01:37:04.383 --> 01:37:05.689
that made the unions
less powerful.

2315
01:37:05.732 --> 01:37:08.823
President Obama would
have gone to Wisconsin.

2316
01:37:08.866 --> 01:37:13.088
By all kinds of reports, he
wanted to go to Wisconsin,

2317
01:37:13.131 --> 01:37:16.352
but the campaign told
him, and his people,

2318
01:37:16.395 --> 01:37:17.919
that there's no
reason to go there.

2319
01:37:17.962 --> 01:37:19.050
- Do you think it would
have made a difference

2320
01:37:19.094 --> 01:37:20.008
if she'd come on your show?

2321
01:37:20.051 --> 01:37:20.878
- Hillary?

2322
01:37:20.922 --> 01:37:21.705
- Yes

2323
01:37:21.748 --> 01:37:23.185
- I do

2324
01:37:23.228 --> 01:37:25.187
It's 70,000 votes, and in
those states I am popular,

2325
01:37:25.230 --> 01:37:28.059
particularly
Pennsylvania, for example

2326
01:37:28.103 --> 01:37:30.322
- If you don't catch the signal

2327
01:37:30.366 --> 01:37:32.672
that you've got a big problem
in the industrial heartland

2328
01:37:32.716 --> 01:37:35.545
when you can't when your
own primary in Michigan,

2329
01:37:35.588 --> 01:37:37.547
if you can't respond
to that on the ground

2330
01:37:37.590 --> 01:37:40.811
when people are begging for
help, you're gonna get beat.

2331
01:37:40.855 --> 01:37:43.988
At the end of the day,
it is a ground operation

2332
01:37:44.032 --> 01:37:45.816
that was not funded
in the heartland

2333
01:37:45.860 --> 01:37:47.252
that cost this campaign.

2334
01:37:47.296 --> 01:37:50.255
It was political malpractice
of the highest order.

2335
01:37:50.299 --> 01:37:52.649
Donald Trump saw that
hole in her plan,

2336
01:37:52.692 --> 01:37:54.607
and he went to the heartland,
and he beat her there.

2337
01:37:54.651 --> 01:37:55.478
It's her fault.

2338
01:37:57.697 --> 01:38:01.310
- Our campaign was
never about one person

2339
01:38:01.353 --> 01:38:03.660
or even one election.

2340
01:38:03.703 --> 01:38:05.923
It was about the country we love

2341
01:38:05.967 --> 01:38:08.012
and about building an America

2342
01:38:08.056 --> 01:38:11.450
that's hopeful, inclusive,
and big hearted.

2343
01:38:11.494 --> 01:38:14.366
[crowd applauding]

2344
01:38:15.933 --> 01:38:20.198
- At some point,
we, the voters...

2345
01:38:20.242 --> 01:38:23.158
we have to take
responsibility for this.

2346
01:38:24.637 --> 01:38:27.031
And if, yes, it's
been true for a while,

2347
01:38:27.075 --> 01:38:30.905
not just in 2016, but it's
been true for a while,

2348
01:38:30.948 --> 01:38:32.297
and you put it very well,

2349
01:38:32.341 --> 01:38:35.039
that voters are being
treated like an audience.

2350
01:38:35.083 --> 01:38:35.953
And...

2351
01:38:37.302 --> 01:38:41.959
as long as we keep
responding as an audience...

2352
01:38:43.265 --> 01:38:47.791
that's how they're gonna
try to win elections.

2353
01:38:47.834 --> 01:38:50.446
The moment we, the voters,

2354
01:38:50.489 --> 01:38:54.232
insist on a higher
level of debate,

2355
01:38:54.276 --> 01:38:55.842
that's when we'll get one

2356
01:38:55.886 --> 01:38:57.235
- [Reporter] Clearly we
have missed something

2357
01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:58.323
on the polling side.

2358
01:38:58.367 --> 01:39:00.717
How did polling
get this so wrong?

2359
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:02.632
- [Reporter] A lot of those
people were not willing

2360
01:39:02.675 --> 01:39:05.722
to say to a pollster they
were willing to vote for him.

2361
01:39:05.765 --> 01:39:07.071
- Are they not talking to us?

2362
01:39:07.115 --> 01:39:09.030
Are they not interested
in doing surveys?

2363
01:39:09.073 --> 01:39:13.469
- That term "hidden Trump
voter", "undercover Trump voter"

2364
01:39:13.512 --> 01:39:16.211
was met with international
derision and ridicule.

2365
01:39:16.254 --> 01:39:17.864
Thank you, everyone.

2366
01:39:17.908 --> 01:39:20.998
And they said on election
day, they'll still be hidden.

2367
01:39:21.042 --> 01:39:24.828
Well, that was to explain not
that people were embarrassed

2368
01:39:24.871 --> 01:39:26.351
to say they're voting
for Donald Trump,

2369
01:39:26.395 --> 01:39:28.788
but they weren't supposed to be.

2370
01:39:28.832 --> 01:39:29.964
[crowd cheering]

2371
01:39:30.007 --> 01:39:31.443
They're women who
are supposed to vote

2372
01:39:31.487 --> 01:39:33.445
for the first woman President
of the United States.

2373
01:39:33.489 --> 01:39:35.230
They're hispanics who
were supposed to not like

2374
01:39:35.273 --> 01:39:36.753
his immigration policy.

2375
01:39:36.796 --> 01:39:38.798
They're young who
were supposed to say

2376
01:39:38.842 --> 01:39:40.278
the Democrats are woke.

2377
01:39:40.322 --> 01:39:43.238
If you are a union worker
in any of these states

2378
01:39:43.281 --> 01:39:44.804
we were talking about earlier,

2379
01:39:44.848 --> 01:39:47.285
how in the world can you
vote for Donald Trump?

2380
01:39:47.329 --> 01:39:48.939
And so they just
don't want to argue

2381
01:39:48.983 --> 01:39:50.506
with people in their
circle of life,

2382
01:39:50.549 --> 01:39:53.030
their family, their friends
or their colleagues anymore.

2383
01:39:53.074 --> 01:39:54.423
But they came out for him.

2384
01:39:54.466 --> 01:39:57.904
- I think the idea that
it's only the dumb people

2385
01:39:57.948 --> 01:40:01.821
who would fall for Trump
doesn't stand up to science,

2386
01:40:01.865 --> 01:40:05.825
because there are plenty
of brilliant Republicans

2387
01:40:05.869 --> 01:40:07.044
who are pro-Trump.

2388
01:40:07.088 --> 01:40:08.437
- A lot of rich guys
voted for him, too,

2389
01:40:08.480 --> 01:40:09.655
in case you didn't know.

2390
01:40:09.699 --> 01:40:11.135
They closed the curtain.

2391
01:40:11.179 --> 01:40:13.920
They said, okay,
can't tell anybody.

2392
01:40:13.964 --> 01:40:14.834
Trump.

2393
01:40:14.878 --> 01:40:15.966
And then they open the curtain.

2394
01:40:17.315 --> 01:40:19.578
- He tapped into a
lot of frustration

2395
01:40:19.622 --> 01:40:21.363
and people who, at the
last minute, just said,

2396
01:40:21.406 --> 01:40:24.148
fuck it, let's take that a risk.

2397
01:40:24.192 --> 01:40:27.673
[crowd cheering]

2398
01:40:27.717 --> 01:40:32.809
- There was this divided,
fragmented nation,

2399
01:40:32.852 --> 01:40:34.898
and really an understanding gap

2400
01:40:34.941 --> 01:40:36.813
that we didn't even have a sense

2401
01:40:36.856 --> 01:40:38.119
of what was necessarily going on

2402
01:40:38.162 --> 01:40:40.295
on the other side of the
communication divide.

2403
01:40:40.338 --> 01:40:41.644
And within that "we"

2404
01:40:41.687 --> 01:40:43.994
I would include a lot
of our journalists.

2405
01:40:44.038 --> 01:40:46.649
- Obviously we missed it, right?

2406
01:40:46.692 --> 01:40:47.693
But a lot of people missed it.

2407
01:40:47.737 --> 01:40:48.825
- [Reporter]
Everybody missed it.

2408
01:40:48.868 --> 01:40:50.131
Just about everybody missed it.

2409
01:40:50.174 --> 01:40:52.089
- I don't think that
the mainstream media

2410
01:40:52.133 --> 01:40:54.048
was lying about what
was going to happen.

2411
01:40:54.091 --> 01:40:58.139
I think we missed the
overarching story,

2412
01:40:58.182 --> 01:41:00.271
- And see so many in the
American media today.

2413
01:41:00.315 --> 01:41:02.447
And in the last,
I'd say 72 hours

2414
01:41:02.491 --> 01:41:04.101
having the self-reflection

2415
01:41:04.145 --> 01:41:06.103
and telling themselves they
need to look in the mirror,

2416
01:41:06.147 --> 01:41:09.976
that this was not a shock
to millions of Americans,

2417
01:41:10.020 --> 01:41:12.631
but it was a shock
in the newsrooms at

2418
01:41:12.675 --> 01:41:14.633
at The New York Times, at CNN.

2419
01:41:14.677 --> 01:41:18.420
- I actually believe that
what we watched happen

2420
01:41:18.463 --> 01:41:21.466
in the 2016 election
was an example

2421
01:41:21.510 --> 01:41:25.296
of this very new set of
affordances, if you will,

2422
01:41:25.340 --> 01:41:28.082
of the media system.

2423
01:41:28.125 --> 01:41:30.823
The gatekeepers of
the old media system

2424
01:41:30.867 --> 01:41:32.651
no longer are the gatekeepers.

2425
01:41:32.695 --> 01:41:34.914
Once upon a time, we
had audience members

2426
01:41:34.958 --> 01:41:37.265
who were each sitting in
their own living rooms,

2427
01:41:37.308 --> 01:41:40.616
watching this
television broadcast,

2428
01:41:40.659 --> 01:41:43.140
and maybe shouting
back at the TV.

2429
01:41:43.184 --> 01:41:44.620
That landscape has
completely changed,

2430
01:41:44.663 --> 01:41:46.535
because now we have
audience members

2431
01:41:46.578 --> 01:41:47.840
who are all on the internet,

2432
01:41:47.884 --> 01:41:50.016
all on different
social media platforms,

2433
01:41:50.060 --> 01:41:51.757
connected with one another...

2434
01:41:52.715 --> 01:41:54.282
and talking with each other

2435
01:41:54.325 --> 01:41:56.501
about new political
possibilities.

2436
01:41:56.545 --> 01:41:59.939
When we're now connected
to more of our friends,

2437
01:41:59.983 --> 01:42:02.812
and we have the
ability to self-select

2438
01:42:02.855 --> 01:42:07.860
and tune into networks of
people who think like we do.

2439
01:42:09.993 --> 01:42:12.474
- [Reporter] Facebook is
admitting Russia agents

2440
01:42:12.517 --> 01:42:15.172
bought thousands of ads
during the election.

2441
01:42:15.216 --> 01:42:16.521
Now the social media giant says

2442
01:42:16.565 --> 01:42:18.480
it will turn over
those ads to Congress.

2443
01:42:18.523 --> 01:42:20.264
- And now you throw
this into the mix,

2444
01:42:20.308 --> 01:42:22.266
where it really sort of
raises questions, again,

2445
01:42:22.310 --> 01:42:24.181
about the legitimacy
of his election.

2446
01:42:24.225 --> 01:42:27.141
- The clear evidence that
Russia tried to influence

2447
01:42:27.184 --> 01:42:30.100
the outcome of the
election is unprecedented.

2448
01:42:30.144 --> 01:42:32.798
They were clearly trying to
sow the seeds of confusion

2449
01:42:32.842 --> 01:42:34.626
and discord, play to
identity politics.

2450
01:42:34.670 --> 01:42:37.803
But they had a favored
candidate. That's

2451
01:42:37.847 --> 01:42:41.155
- I do not believe in a
giant global conspiracy

2452
01:42:41.198 --> 01:42:42.765
whereby the Trump campaign,

2453
01:42:42.808 --> 01:42:44.636
which literally didn't
even know it was winning

2454
01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:47.465
at like eight
o'clock that night...

2455
01:42:48.727 --> 01:42:51.817
orchestrated this in order
to beat Hillary Clinton.

2456
01:42:51.861 --> 01:42:53.123
- But what I definitely
think happened

2457
01:42:53.167 --> 01:42:54.690
is that the Russians
were interfering

2458
01:42:54.733 --> 01:42:56.300
as much as they could do

2459
01:42:56.344 --> 01:42:59.129
in the mindsets of
American people,

2460
01:42:59.173 --> 01:43:00.739
through Facebook
through WikiLeaks,

2461
01:43:00.783 --> 01:43:02.219
through all sorts of stuff.

2462
01:43:02.263 --> 01:43:05.962
The Russians were everywhere,
trying to create noise

2463
01:43:06.005 --> 01:43:09.226
around probably Donald
Trump over Hillary Clinton.

2464
01:43:09.270 --> 01:43:13.056
Was Donald Trump responsible
for that activity? No.

2465
01:43:13.099 --> 01:43:15.232
Did he mind it? I doubt it.

2466
01:43:15.276 --> 01:43:17.974
You know, all's fair in
love and election war.

2467
01:43:18.017 --> 01:43:20.237
But is the central charge true

2468
01:43:20.281 --> 01:43:22.108
that Donald Trump was only there

2469
01:43:22.152 --> 01:43:23.893
because of Russian interference?

2470
01:43:23.936 --> 01:43:25.373
I just don't buy that at all.

2471
01:43:29.203 --> 01:43:31.117
- [Announcer] Ladies and
gentlemen, the president-elect

2472
01:43:31.161 --> 01:43:33.511
of the United States,
Donald John Trump.

2473
01:43:34.817 --> 01:43:37.820
[audience cheering]

2474
01:43:40.953 --> 01:43:45.784
- I think America always gets
the president it deserves.

2475
01:43:45.828 --> 01:43:48.831
This is an age
distorted by greed,

2476
01:43:48.874 --> 01:43:53.836
distorted by inequality,
distorted by social media.

2477
01:43:53.879 --> 01:43:56.795
Why wouldn't we be
offered the chance

2478
01:43:56.839 --> 01:44:01.844
to elect a president whose
main skill is self-promotion?

2479
01:44:02.540 --> 01:44:04.803
That makes him the
ultimate American.

2480
01:44:06.196 --> 01:44:08.242
- A guy like Trump
was inevitable.

2481
01:44:08.285 --> 01:44:10.766
You're calling it the
accidental presidency.

2482
01:44:10.809 --> 01:44:14.030
It may be an accident that
Trump is the president,

2483
01:44:14.073 --> 01:44:17.990
but it is not an accident
that someone well-known,

2484
01:44:18.034 --> 01:44:21.124
outside of politics
would suddenly rise.

2485
01:44:22.691 --> 01:44:24.649
- We can no longer assume
that what we've known

2486
01:44:24.693 --> 01:44:27.913
for the last 50 years has
any relevance or resonance.

2487
01:44:27.957 --> 01:44:31.308
We can't tell that anymore,
because the public has changed.

2488
01:44:31.352 --> 01:44:32.614
Politics has changed.

2489
01:44:32.657 --> 01:44:33.919
- You can't go back now.

2490
01:44:33.963 --> 01:44:37.140
You can't have boring,
robotic leaders anymore.

2491
01:44:37.183 --> 01:44:39.925
The rise of populism
around the world,

2492
01:44:39.969 --> 01:44:41.971
driven a lot by people
like Donald Trump,

2493
01:44:42.014 --> 01:44:44.365
is because people have
had a reaction, I think,

2494
01:44:44.408 --> 01:44:46.410
to robotic politics.

2495
01:44:46.454 --> 01:44:48.499
And I think, in America,
Trump tapped into

2496
01:44:48.543 --> 01:44:50.545
the same sentiment
about Washington

2497
01:44:50.588 --> 01:44:52.982
and said that
Washington is broken,

2498
01:44:53.025 --> 01:44:55.593
it's paralyzed,
it's not working.

2499
01:44:56.855 --> 01:45:00.294
- He offered, as
the demagogue does,

2500
01:45:00.337 --> 01:45:04.994
easy answers to
complex questions.

2501
01:45:05.037 --> 01:45:09.825
We live in this era where
we're being disrupted...

2502
01:45:10.826 --> 01:45:15.831
by globalization, by technology
revolution, by automation.

2503
01:45:16.353 --> 01:45:18.181
How does Donald Trump win?

2504
01:45:19.400 --> 01:45:20.401
How does he not win?

2505
01:45:21.706 --> 01:45:23.229
- We're still talking
about the 2016 election

2506
01:45:23.273 --> 01:45:24.927
because it's still the case

2507
01:45:24.970 --> 01:45:26.145
that no one has wrapped
their head around it.

2508
01:45:26.189 --> 01:45:27.756
And the president
is no exception.

2509
01:45:27.799 --> 01:45:30.715
He won't shut up about
the 2016 election either.

2510
01:45:30.759 --> 01:45:33.370
We're still trying to figure
out what the heck happened

2511
01:45:33.414 --> 01:45:34.763
and whether it's a fluke.

2512
01:45:34.806 --> 01:45:36.634
To me, that's why we
keep covering politics,

2513
01:45:36.678 --> 01:45:37.809
because we don't know.

2514
01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:39.637
What I'm trying to figure out,

2515
01:45:39.681 --> 01:45:42.161
what I'm trying to cover is...

2516
01:45:42.205 --> 01:45:44.468
has our political
framework changed?

2517
01:45:44.512 --> 01:45:45.426
Has it been destroyed?

2518
01:45:45.469 --> 01:45:48.559
Has Trump realigned the way that

2519
01:45:48.603 --> 01:45:50.518
the American electorate works?

2520
01:45:50.561 --> 01:45:52.563
Or was it just a
really weird fluke

2521
01:45:52.607 --> 01:45:54.783
that took advantage
of the imbalance

2522
01:45:54.826 --> 01:45:57.351
between the popular vote
and the electoral college,

2523
01:45:57.394 --> 01:45:59.440
the Russians, Jim Comey

2524
01:45:59.483 --> 01:46:02.617
a fractured Republican field,
a divided Republican party?

2525
01:46:02.660 --> 01:46:05.794
Was there just this really
specific set of circumstances

2526
01:46:05.837 --> 01:46:08.971
that allowed something
really unusual to happen?

2527
01:46:09.014 --> 01:46:11.408
[soft music]

2528
01:46:12.496 --> 01:46:14.977
- We're going to
face many challenges.

2529
01:46:15.020 --> 01:46:20.112
But this is truly an
exciting time to be alive.

2530
01:46:20.156 --> 01:46:21.940
[audience cheering]

2531
01:46:21.984 --> 01:46:25.248
The script is not yet written.

2532
01:46:25.291 --> 01:46:29.426
We do not know what the
page will read tomorrow.

2533
01:46:29.470 --> 01:46:32.429
But for the first time
in a long, long time,

2534
01:46:32.473 --> 01:46:36.128
what we do know
is that the pages

2535
01:46:36.172 --> 01:46:41.307
will be authored by each and
every one of you, and you.

2536
01:46:41.351 --> 01:46:44.354
[audience cheering]

2537
01:46:46.661 --> 01:46:50.491
[intriguing electronic music]





