1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:43,629 --> 00:01:45,698 - My name is Matt Blomberg, 4 00:01:45,833 --> 00:01:49,703 I'm a investigative journalist in Cambodia. 5 00:01:49,839 --> 00:01:53,475 Four years ago, I was a sports reporter in Australia. 6 00:01:54,607 --> 00:01:56,874 That was my goal in life, 7 00:01:58,415 --> 00:02:02,017 and then I came here on a holiday. 8 00:02:02,153 --> 00:02:03,551 I didn't want to go home, 9 00:02:03,687 --> 00:02:06,884 so I applied for a job at The Cambodia Daily. 10 00:02:09,396 --> 00:02:11,929 There's not much professional sport here, so 11 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:13,924 I got sucked into the world of 12 00:02:14,059 --> 00:02:17,136 corruption and investigation and scandal. 13 00:02:20,304 --> 00:02:21,835 There's a lot of different people 14 00:02:21,970 --> 00:02:24,050 using a lot of different methods to try and confront 15 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:26,378 injustices all over the world. 16 00:02:26,514 --> 00:02:30,314 For me, the most effective way is with a pen and a camera. 17 00:02:36,953 --> 00:02:40,819 From Phnom Penh I was following the story about illegal fishing 18 00:02:40,954 --> 00:02:42,632 and starting to get little bits of stories 19 00:02:42,656 --> 00:02:45,289 about the lawlessness at sea. 20 00:02:45,424 --> 00:02:46,724 And then one day 21 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:48,859 I heard that a Cambodian man was killed 22 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:51,064 in a clash of Vietnamese fishermen. 23 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,132 To where? 24 00:02:53,267 --> 00:02:54,431 Yeah, yeah, 25 00:02:54,567 --> 00:02:56,439 yeah, yeah for sure. 26 00:02:59,808 --> 00:03:03,380 So I went down and visited the village, 27 00:03:04,477 --> 00:03:06,146 met the widow, 28 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:14,326 Then started, you know, 29 00:03:14,461 --> 00:03:16,657 poking around the villages and asking questions. 30 00:03:22,303 --> 00:03:25,198 - Was there any justice for the death of Auok? 31 00:03:45,086 --> 00:03:47,952 - The governors think they are wrong. 32 00:03:52,391 --> 00:03:55,993 - At this point, I hadn't seen anything myself. 33 00:03:56,128 --> 00:03:59,733 So I went and asked the captain to take me out. 34 00:04:14,153 --> 00:04:15,485 It's a really volatile situation 35 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:17,949 because there's so many fishing villages 36 00:04:18,084 --> 00:04:20,787 who are all living off the same patch of ocean. 37 00:04:25,126 --> 00:04:27,005 There's hundreds of boats that go out every night. 38 00:04:27,029 --> 00:04:29,428 There's these fishing communities all along the coast. 39 00:04:29,563 --> 00:04:31,468 The scale is massive. 40 00:04:33,468 --> 00:04:35,001 He says that all these 41 00:04:35,136 --> 00:04:37,805 boats with their lights off are Vietnamese and that, 42 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:40,807 this is Cambodian water for a little bit more. 43 00:04:58,861 --> 00:05:02,701 So that's everything off the sea floor. 44 00:05:02,836 --> 00:05:03,863 Everything. 45 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:09,268 I watched them drag hundreds of kilos worth of sea life 46 00:05:09,404 --> 00:05:11,108 onto the boat. 47 00:05:11,244 --> 00:05:13,741 20% of it is put into buckets 48 00:05:13,876 --> 00:05:16,144 that are going to be sold at market later 49 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:17,779 and then the rest of it, 50 00:05:17,915 --> 00:05:21,078 the stuff that wasn't worth any money, just died. 51 00:05:29,387 --> 00:05:32,464 Their yields are down exponentially every year. 52 00:05:32,599 --> 00:05:35,059 The yields are dropping and dropping and dropping. 53 00:05:36,202 --> 00:05:37,864 It's a race to the bottom. 54 00:05:56,618 --> 00:05:59,521 The more villages I went to, 55 00:05:59,657 --> 00:06:01,954 I just kept hearing the same story. 56 00:06:15,537 --> 00:06:16,903 There's no fish left, 57 00:06:17,038 --> 00:06:18,808 that the Vietnamese had taken all the fish 58 00:06:18,944 --> 00:06:22,106 and that the local fishermen are powerless to stop them. 59 00:06:28,754 --> 00:06:31,621 If you have a look at the maps, you can see that 60 00:06:31,756 --> 00:06:34,457 Thailand in the west and Vietnam in the east, 61 00:06:34,593 --> 00:06:36,627 their waters have been fished out. 62 00:06:36,763 --> 00:06:39,026 The Vietnamese have pillaged their own oceans and 63 00:06:39,162 --> 00:06:43,061 the fishing fleets from there are moving into Cambodia. 64 00:06:43,196 --> 00:06:45,436 There's billions of dollars worth of seafood 65 00:06:45,571 --> 00:06:48,736 exported from Southeast Asia every year. 66 00:06:48,871 --> 00:06:51,135 And so, a lot of people around the world 67 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:54,171 are affected by the things that happen here. 68 00:06:58,651 --> 00:07:01,552 In Cambodia, things are pretty desperate. 69 00:07:03,956 --> 00:07:07,790 It became apparent very quickly how serious this issue is. 70 00:07:07,925 --> 00:07:09,971 If this problem is not addressed, it's only a matter 71 00:07:09,995 --> 00:07:14,090 of time before there's no fisheries in Cambodia at all. 72 00:07:14,226 --> 00:07:15,826 Hundreds of thousands of people's 73 00:07:15,961 --> 00:07:17,832 livelihoods are on the line. 74 00:07:24,238 --> 00:07:27,308 Through talking to the fishermen down there, 75 00:07:27,443 --> 00:07:29,010 I found out about 76 00:07:29,146 --> 00:07:31,345 this vigilante British guy who was living on an island 77 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,047 off the coast and 78 00:07:33,183 --> 00:07:36,081 doing his best to try and keep the illegal fishers at bay. 79 00:07:45,661 --> 00:07:47,757 So, I'm thinking to myself, 80 00:07:47,893 --> 00:07:49,831 "Who is this guy Paul?" 81 00:07:52,631 --> 00:07:55,566 - At least one set of Vietnamese pair trawlers, 82 00:07:55,701 --> 00:07:57,102 First one, 83 00:07:57,238 --> 00:08:00,178 somewhere between 500 meters and 1 kilometre 84 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:02,042 north of Koh Seh. Now we... 85 00:08:02,178 --> 00:08:04,449 - Paul's strategy is to flood Facebook with 86 00:08:04,585 --> 00:08:07,145 live streams when he's out on patrol. 87 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,817 - Oh there he is, throwing stuff! 88 00:08:08,952 --> 00:08:11,221 Live on Facebook! Here we go, chasing the boat. 89 00:08:11,357 --> 00:08:12,855 - 90% of Cambodians 90 00:08:12,991 --> 00:08:16,025 see Facebook as their lead source of information. 91 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,927 And he knows that pretty high ranking people are watching, 92 00:08:19,062 --> 00:08:21,260 - Okay here we are, continuous offenders. 93 00:08:21,396 --> 00:08:23,498 - And that if he keeps slapping them in the face 94 00:08:23,634 --> 00:08:25,194 someone will react eventually. 95 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:27,935 - Guy's waving an axe at us. 96 00:08:30,008 --> 00:08:35,471 - The illegal fishermen are notoriously violent. 97 00:08:35,607 --> 00:08:37,947 They go to work armed with machetes and slingshots 98 00:08:38,082 --> 00:08:41,178 and homemade guns and anyone who gets in their way, 99 00:08:41,313 --> 00:08:42,884 they're willing to use those weapons. 100 00:08:43,019 --> 00:08:45,051 They've rammed boats, they've sunk boats, 101 00:08:45,186 --> 00:08:47,153 they've launched coordinated attacks even. 102 00:08:47,288 --> 00:08:50,153 - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 electric trawlers 103 00:08:50,288 --> 00:08:53,159 trying to ram our boat right now. 104 00:08:53,294 --> 00:08:56,061 - Obviously I was quite interested in it, 105 00:08:56,196 --> 00:08:58,834 so I went down there looking for him. 106 00:09:00,438 --> 00:09:01,903 I also heard that Paul 107 00:09:02,038 --> 00:09:06,173 wasn't very keen on talking to the media. 108 00:09:06,309 --> 00:09:10,243 His staff told me, you know, he doesn't like journalists. 109 00:09:10,379 --> 00:09:13,777 The small one has all the cameras and some stuff in it. 110 00:09:13,913 --> 00:09:15,312 How're you doing, Paul? 111 00:09:20,789 --> 00:09:22,560 My first impression was that 112 00:09:22,696 --> 00:09:25,289 getting along with Paul will be difficult. 113 00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:34,938 What I wanted to do 114 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:37,505 was to get into a position where we can share information. 115 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,939 - Nothing else to do. 116 00:09:39,075 --> 00:09:40,355 - But it took me a little while 117 00:09:40,479 --> 00:09:42,812 to even gain his attention. 118 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,515 - I approached him and sat down and 119 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:48,552 slowly started chatting to him. 120 00:09:48,688 --> 00:09:50,008 No, it's okay. We've done all the 121 00:09:50,085 --> 00:09:51,605 research we've been doing it first... 122 00:09:51,725 --> 00:09:53,425 And I guess I won his trust in the end. 123 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:54,956 At the end, at the end. 124 00:09:55,092 --> 00:09:58,160 Yeah, yeah. It was like, that was exactly... 125 00:09:58,295 --> 00:10:00,659 - At the very beginning when these little seahorse trawlers 126 00:10:00,795 --> 00:10:02,094 came over from Vietnam, 127 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:04,098 this was what the bycatch looked like. 128 00:10:04,233 --> 00:10:06,033 So it was a really, really sensitive habitats 129 00:10:06,164 --> 00:10:07,805 that hadn't been disturbed. 130 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:11,301 So you've got, that's a, say a 30 minute trawl, 131 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:14,139 and they have that much life in it. 132 00:10:14,275 --> 00:10:16,875 This is exact, almost the same trawler 133 00:10:17,010 --> 00:10:18,250 and that's what they catch now. 134 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:21,578 So the first one was, I think 2008, 135 00:10:21,713 --> 00:10:26,153 so they get, and that will be maybe a two hour trawl. 136 00:10:26,288 --> 00:10:29,952 It's pretty crazy how little there is now left. 137 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:31,454 But I've got to say, 138 00:10:31,589 --> 00:10:33,923 the Vietnamese ones must be working hard.. 139 00:10:34,058 --> 00:10:35,766 Matt contacted me 140 00:10:35,901 --> 00:10:37,968 and I gave him a bit of information about things 141 00:10:38,103 --> 00:10:40,868 and we talked and it sort of progressed from there. 142 00:10:41,003 --> 00:10:42,266 The other and he's like, 143 00:10:42,401 --> 00:10:43,881 "If I had this and if I had this..." 144 00:10:43,905 --> 00:10:46,040 Twelve years ago, I was a diver, 145 00:10:46,175 --> 00:10:49,380 I loved the ocean and I came to Cambodia 146 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:51,613 to work as a dive instructor. 147 00:10:51,748 --> 00:10:53,246 It was a very small island. 148 00:10:53,382 --> 00:10:56,050 Just off the coast of Sihanoukville, called Koh Koun. 149 00:10:57,185 --> 00:11:00,622 When the ocean started being destroyed, 150 00:11:00,757 --> 00:11:03,127 no one else was there to stop it 151 00:11:03,262 --> 00:11:04,960 and I was there. 152 00:11:06,526 --> 00:11:09,264 There wasn't really a choice, it had to be done. 153 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:13,805 So, that was when I started Marine Conservation Cambodia. 154 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:18,502 - We started out to protect the seahorses here 155 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:21,207 and the more we started to work with the community, 156 00:11:21,343 --> 00:11:24,514 the more we understood how little fish were left 157 00:11:24,650 --> 00:11:26,281 and it became much more about 158 00:11:26,416 --> 00:11:30,317 protecting the community and the whole marine environment. 159 00:11:30,453 --> 00:11:33,850 We worked on getting the illegal sand dredging banned. 160 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:35,420 We ran a clinic. 161 00:11:35,555 --> 00:11:39,659 We ran a small English school, for the local kids. 162 00:11:39,795 --> 00:11:41,925 It was very successful. 163 00:11:42,061 --> 00:11:43,934 And the deputy governor 164 00:11:44,069 --> 00:11:46,898 basically asked if we were interested in doing, 165 00:11:47,034 --> 00:11:48,131 in the ocean here in Kep, 166 00:11:48,267 --> 00:11:50,302 exactly what we'd done there. 167 00:11:51,943 --> 00:11:56,610 And so, we set up MCC here in Kep, 168 00:11:56,746 --> 00:11:58,376 and then we began work. 169 00:12:00,151 --> 00:12:03,652 - MCC has a very small area in front of Koh Seh, 170 00:12:03,788 --> 00:12:05,482 the island that they populate. 171 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:08,351 - We have the conservation area 172 00:12:08,487 --> 00:12:10,219 that we've officially been granted 173 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:12,623 by the provincial government. 174 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:16,931 - And it's surrounded on three sides by Vietnam. 175 00:12:17,067 --> 00:12:18,700 - Essentially we really are 176 00:12:18,836 --> 00:12:20,803 smack bang on the front line. 177 00:12:20,939 --> 00:12:23,067 - This is the border, right here, 178 00:12:23,203 --> 00:12:25,876 between Cambodia and Vietnam. 179 00:12:26,974 --> 00:12:28,340 This is our medium boat. 180 00:12:28,475 --> 00:12:30,745 This is the boat that we go patrolling on. 181 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,115 Phon is the captain on the boat. 182 00:12:47,193 --> 00:12:48,597 - We run the patrols 183 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:50,165 to stop the trawling boats 184 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:52,865 from going into the marine conservation areas. 185 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,364 Three electric boats, 186 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:56,005 Clearly know they're in the wrong. 187 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:57,700 They're running from our boat right now. 188 00:12:59,376 --> 00:13:01,539 - They also have an extensive research program 189 00:13:01,675 --> 00:13:05,278 that follows the seahorse populations in the area. 190 00:13:06,985 --> 00:13:10,283 MCC is a really grassroots operation. 191 00:13:10,419 --> 00:13:13,825 Y'know they're all living on a thread out there. 192 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,624 For Paul, every time he wakes up in the morning, 193 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,855 he's risking everything. 194 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:21,996 'Cause he's got his family, he's got five kids and a wife 195 00:13:22,132 --> 00:13:23,538 living on that small island with him. 196 00:13:23,562 --> 00:13:26,136 - Hello everybody. - Hello everybody. 197 00:13:26,272 --> 00:13:29,634 - So can you give us hundreds of money, all your moneys. 198 00:13:31,141 --> 00:13:33,403 - You guys love being live, don't you? 199 00:13:33,538 --> 00:13:35,210 - Papa I want to say something too. 200 00:13:35,346 --> 00:13:37,346 - What do you want to say? What'd you want to say? 201 00:13:37,477 --> 00:13:39,643 - Whoever is watching me right now, 202 00:13:39,778 --> 00:13:44,388 please help me to save this island and this ocean. 203 00:13:44,524 --> 00:13:46,858 - That was so sweet. 204 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:54,897 If we can protect this area, 205 00:13:55,032 --> 00:13:58,195 this tiny little oasis of recovery, 206 00:13:58,331 --> 00:14:01,169 then we can expand everything, 207 00:14:01,304 --> 00:14:04,539 encompassing a much larger conservation area 208 00:14:04,674 --> 00:14:06,075 called an MFMA, 209 00:14:06,211 --> 00:14:09,177 which is a Marine Fisheries Management Area. 210 00:14:11,977 --> 00:14:15,581 And essentially within that you then have zones that allow 211 00:14:15,717 --> 00:14:19,716 a breeding season to happen without the interference, 212 00:14:19,851 --> 00:14:23,520 conservation zones, which are entirely no take. 213 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:25,135 If you've got the conservation zones 214 00:14:25,225 --> 00:14:26,557 and they're fully protected, 215 00:14:26,692 --> 00:14:28,493 you have areas for the fish to move out. 216 00:14:29,834 --> 00:14:31,293 First year you have no fish, 217 00:14:31,429 --> 00:14:32,832 then you have a few fish, 218 00:14:32,968 --> 00:14:34,134 because you have a few, 219 00:14:34,269 --> 00:14:35,376 you have a few more the next year. 220 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,206 Once it gets to a certain point, 221 00:14:37,341 --> 00:14:40,644 there's so much life there that breeds and produces 222 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:42,879 new offspring that it explodes 223 00:14:43,014 --> 00:14:47,886 and spawns other areas of recovery. 224 00:14:49,414 --> 00:14:51,549 And research has to be done 225 00:14:51,684 --> 00:14:54,387 to back up everything that we're doing. 226 00:14:56,154 --> 00:14:57,489 - So basically, 227 00:14:57,624 --> 00:15:00,393 after having seeing lots of different individuals 228 00:15:00,528 --> 00:15:02,495 but without being able to identify them, 229 00:15:02,630 --> 00:15:05,869 it's very hard to differentiate different seahorses. 230 00:15:06,004 --> 00:15:08,304 So if you want to be able to track 231 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,472 the evolution of a single individual inside the coral reef 232 00:15:12,607 --> 00:15:15,946 then we need some kind of way to identify it. 233 00:15:16,082 --> 00:15:20,216 Today we have the pink and the green, 234 00:15:20,352 --> 00:15:23,718 which hopefully will have a good mark under water. 235 00:15:23,853 --> 00:15:26,386 Alright, let's go. 236 00:15:34,330 --> 00:15:36,097 - Amick leads the research and 237 00:15:36,232 --> 00:15:37,694 the scientific side of operations. 238 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:40,336 He is bringing in volunteers and divers 239 00:15:40,472 --> 00:15:43,942 and scientists to help do the monitoring of the water. 240 00:15:48,213 --> 00:15:50,208 - If we do the research to prove 241 00:15:50,343 --> 00:15:52,444 to the provincial government 242 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:56,086 that the work that we're doing is working, 243 00:15:57,916 --> 00:16:01,159 then we can take this to the entire archipelago 244 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:04,255 to protect all of the essential habitats that need to be 245 00:16:04,390 --> 00:16:07,262 under the umbrella of this MFMA. 246 00:16:18,775 --> 00:16:20,871 Around 2008, 247 00:16:21,007 --> 00:16:25,014 Cambodia's diving equaled what people now think of as 248 00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:27,513 the best diving sites in the world. 249 00:16:29,147 --> 00:16:32,189 Where divers from all over the world go to do photography 250 00:16:32,324 --> 00:16:35,752 to find the craziest critters that no one else sees. 251 00:16:37,825 --> 00:16:40,293 The seahorse was the thing that I enjoyed spending 252 00:16:40,428 --> 00:16:43,165 most of my time in the water with. 253 00:16:43,301 --> 00:16:47,005 They're incredibly beautiful to watch. 254 00:16:48,638 --> 00:16:51,669 Because of Cambodia's recent history, the genocide, 255 00:16:51,805 --> 00:16:54,737 they'd been untouched by industrial fishing. 256 00:16:54,873 --> 00:16:58,412 Seahorses were pretty much everywhere. 257 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:02,680 And then a few years later 258 00:17:02,815 --> 00:17:05,617 we had this huge influx of Vietnamese boats 259 00:17:05,752 --> 00:17:08,521 targeting the seahorses in the inshore areas. 260 00:17:13,461 --> 00:17:16,294 The trawling boats were increasing 261 00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:18,061 and you'd go to a dive site 262 00:17:18,196 --> 00:17:21,302 and you'd been diving there for six months, seven months, 263 00:17:21,437 --> 00:17:23,037 and you knew the area, it was beautiful, 264 00:17:23,106 --> 00:17:24,738 and all of a sudden you go down 265 00:17:24,873 --> 00:17:27,154 just looks like someone had just taken a bulldozer to it. 266 00:17:31,349 --> 00:17:33,214 There's absolutely nothing left whatsoever. 267 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:36,116 You've got bare sand, crushed shells, 268 00:17:36,251 --> 00:17:37,821 half dead things everywhere 269 00:17:37,957 --> 00:17:40,091 it was just... it was horrific. 270 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:48,436 They've got their nets laid out 271 00:17:48,530 --> 00:17:50,464 because they're all the same flags. 272 00:17:53,002 --> 00:17:54,602 We started out 273 00:17:54,738 --> 00:17:58,071 and the illegal fishing was worse than in Sihanoukville. 274 00:17:58,206 --> 00:17:59,605 Sihanoukville was bad, 275 00:17:59,740 --> 00:18:02,878 but here was pretty much like the Wild West. 276 00:18:03,014 --> 00:18:05,280 They're actually illegal. 277 00:18:05,416 --> 00:18:08,483 All the boats work with complete impunity. 278 00:18:08,618 --> 00:18:10,591 Yeah, so if you look at the mesh size of this net, 279 00:18:10,615 --> 00:18:12,884 this net's actually illegal. 280 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:15,220 You can get a look at the size of the fish in this net, 281 00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:17,353 it's like a mosquito net. 282 00:18:17,489 --> 00:18:20,162 All tiny juvenile fish. 283 00:18:20,298 --> 00:18:23,493 One illegal boat pulling everything up. 284 00:18:23,628 --> 00:18:26,137 Nothing escapes those nets. 285 00:18:33,076 --> 00:18:34,509 - MCC has managed 286 00:18:34,644 --> 00:18:36,780 to gain some kind of trust with the government 287 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:38,348 to be allowed to go in and 288 00:18:38,483 --> 00:18:39,988 tackle the illegal fishing that goes on there, 289 00:18:40,012 --> 00:18:42,884 but they're walking a very fine line between 290 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:44,486 doing what is right and 291 00:18:44,621 --> 00:18:48,324 pleasing the people who hold the key to their existence. 292 00:18:51,189 --> 00:18:54,330 - Anyone got a camera that's got a good zoom on it? 293 00:18:57,866 --> 00:19:01,898 It looks like a 18 to 20 person Vietnamese IUU boat. 294 00:19:09,246 --> 00:19:11,246 We've got to turn around now. 295 00:19:11,382 --> 00:19:13,179 Basically the police have stopped us 296 00:19:13,315 --> 00:19:14,513 from coming into this area 297 00:19:14,649 --> 00:19:16,196 and all these Vietnamese boats know that 298 00:19:16,220 --> 00:19:17,881 and that's where they run to. 299 00:19:21,252 --> 00:19:23,293 - MCC is essentially doing what the police 300 00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:26,230 and the fisheries are supposed to be doing. 301 00:19:28,194 --> 00:19:32,467 The trawlers have operated with impunity for at least 10 years. 302 00:19:35,072 --> 00:19:36,735 Bottom trawling is where 303 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:38,706 they drop a net off the back of the boat 304 00:19:38,842 --> 00:19:42,609 and inside the front of the net are these timber sleds 305 00:19:42,744 --> 00:19:47,878 that drive the net down into the ocean floor. 306 00:19:50,919 --> 00:19:52,953 And then the net is dragged along the ocean floor 307 00:19:53,088 --> 00:19:54,456 for kilometres. 308 00:19:57,028 --> 00:19:58,962 And scoops and smashes 309 00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:00,957 everything that it passes over. 310 00:20:03,468 --> 00:20:06,101 - Oh, look at all that sea grass. 311 00:20:06,237 --> 00:20:07,971 All the seagrass on that boat. 312 00:20:08,106 --> 00:20:11,507 That whole pile is seagrass. 313 00:20:11,643 --> 00:20:14,409 - When there's nothing left on the bottom to catch. 314 00:20:14,545 --> 00:20:17,141 Then there's the electric version of those. 315 00:20:17,276 --> 00:20:21,748 - Electric trawling is just your average standard trawler, 316 00:20:21,883 --> 00:20:24,416 but they connect an electric cable to the net 317 00:20:24,551 --> 00:20:25,883 that goes through a copper wire 318 00:20:26,018 --> 00:20:28,121 and then they send a thousand volt pulse 319 00:20:28,257 --> 00:20:29,489 down into the water and 320 00:20:29,625 --> 00:20:31,025 electrocute everything as they go. 321 00:20:32,561 --> 00:20:34,226 Anything that's been electrocuted 322 00:20:34,362 --> 00:20:35,362 by one of those nets 323 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:37,335 dies within 48 hours. 324 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:40,635 And so, as they go along taking all of the fish 325 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:42,833 they're also taking with it all of the habitat. 326 00:20:42,968 --> 00:20:45,004 So there can't be any regeneration. 327 00:20:45,139 --> 00:20:46,508 Yeah. 328 00:20:46,643 --> 00:20:48,673 Here he is with all the sea grass in the net, 329 00:20:48,809 --> 00:20:52,679 yeah, same guy, he just doesn't care. 330 00:20:52,815 --> 00:20:54,646 - And then there's the pair trawler, 331 00:20:54,781 --> 00:20:56,921 it can be nets hundreds of meters long 332 00:20:57,056 --> 00:20:59,181 slung between two massive boats 333 00:20:59,316 --> 00:21:02,118 and then dragged through swathes of ocean kilometres, 334 00:21:02,253 --> 00:21:07,397 it can wipe out acres of underwater habitat in one night. 335 00:21:09,293 --> 00:21:11,896 The pair trawlers in Cambodia come from Vietnam. 336 00:21:12,031 --> 00:21:14,965 This we know, there's no Cambodian pair trawlers. 337 00:21:16,142 --> 00:21:17,570 - Vietnam pair trawler. 338 00:21:17,706 --> 00:21:20,274 That's Koh Puh there, Koh Mak Prang. 339 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:22,311 There's the two pair trawler. 340 00:21:22,446 --> 00:21:24,348 - It's the most destructive thing 341 00:21:24,483 --> 00:21:27,515 that I've come across within the ocean so far, 342 00:21:27,651 --> 00:21:29,652 so that's why it's really essential that we 343 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,384 stop the trawling bags from going in to the protected area. 344 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:34,222 - Are you going to... 345 00:21:34,357 --> 00:21:37,423 - You just wait, wait here. 346 00:21:37,558 --> 00:21:41,163 This is the idea of the blocks. 347 00:21:41,298 --> 00:21:43,027 We deploy them under water. 348 00:21:43,162 --> 00:21:46,200 The idea is to come up to about seven blocks high. 349 00:21:46,336 --> 00:21:47,501 If it's seven blocks high 350 00:21:47,636 --> 00:21:49,604 it will weigh just over three tons. 351 00:21:51,136 --> 00:21:53,538 The blocks have two main purposes, which is 352 00:21:53,673 --> 00:21:56,105 to create artificial habitat 353 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,512 and also to function as an anti trawling device 354 00:22:00,648 --> 00:22:03,418 to stop the illegal trawlers. 355 00:22:03,554 --> 00:22:05,385 And we're mixing them all by hand so, 356 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,082 we've made about 200 so far. 357 00:22:07,218 --> 00:22:10,020 This is our mixing and making station. 358 00:22:12,363 --> 00:22:13,760 We can do everything by hand. 359 00:22:13,896 --> 00:22:16,130 We don't have to worry about heavy machinery, 360 00:22:16,265 --> 00:22:18,598 high labor costs. 361 00:22:18,733 --> 00:22:22,306 We build with very basic materials. 362 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:25,872 Essentially it's a very adaptable system. 363 00:22:26,007 --> 00:22:28,441 - I just see all the possibilities of this place 364 00:22:28,577 --> 00:22:30,644 and it's just waiting to bloom 365 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:33,747 and develop into something incredible. 366 00:22:35,318 --> 00:22:36,750 It has to be all good. 367 00:22:36,885 --> 00:22:39,355 Maybe, one of or two of you could bring a bench 368 00:22:39,491 --> 00:22:41,523 and you can just sit in a circle. 369 00:22:41,658 --> 00:22:43,352 Just a practice, we do that for fun. 370 00:22:43,488 --> 00:22:48,232 We're going to discuss why we think which fish is who, 371 00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:50,501 the shape of the fish, his color, 372 00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:55,736 his behaviors help us decipher what fish it is. 373 00:23:01,678 --> 00:23:03,647 - Conservation is far from 374 00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:07,677 anywhere near the top of the agenda for most Cambodians, 375 00:23:07,812 --> 00:23:09,453 but we met a couple of 376 00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:12,285 Cambodian students over there doing research. 377 00:23:12,421 --> 00:23:14,051 - All right. What is it? 378 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,461 - Yes. Very good. 379 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:54,927 Gold fish. 380 00:23:57,097 --> 00:23:59,197 - They're here to do their thesis. 381 00:23:59,333 --> 00:24:03,970 And they are beginning an early testing and monitoring program 382 00:24:04,106 --> 00:24:06,872 for the block systems that we'd like to implement 383 00:24:07,007 --> 00:24:09,678 for the MFMA on a much larger scale. 384 00:24:19,489 --> 00:24:20,817 I've always thought this isn't, 385 00:24:20,952 --> 00:24:24,195 this isn't a job for foreigners, 386 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:26,427 it's going to be Cambodian people 387 00:24:26,562 --> 00:24:29,095 that make the changes here. 388 00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:32,470 They can do this so much more efficiently than we can. 389 00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:15,578 - Vida and Rachana are swimming against the tide. 390 00:25:15,713 --> 00:25:17,241 They will tell you that their parents 391 00:25:17,376 --> 00:25:19,256 didn't want them to get involved in this stuff. 392 00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:21,779 And they'll also tell you that the university professors 393 00:25:21,914 --> 00:25:23,752 advised them against it because 394 00:25:23,888 --> 00:25:27,019 it's just not seen as a stable career here. 395 00:26:15,737 --> 00:26:17,035 - This is a good example, 396 00:26:17,171 --> 00:26:20,606 this story is a absolutely flagrant abuse 397 00:26:20,741 --> 00:26:21,938 of the fisheries law. 398 00:26:22,073 --> 00:26:23,746 Hundreds of Vietnamese fishermen 399 00:26:23,882 --> 00:26:26,608 floating around in these little cane baskets, 400 00:26:26,744 --> 00:26:30,053 taking hundreds of kilos of squid out of the Cambodian water 401 00:26:30,188 --> 00:26:31,480 every single day 402 00:26:31,615 --> 00:26:34,817 and paying those who are supposed to be stopping them 403 00:26:34,952 --> 00:26:36,185 for the privilege. 404 00:26:36,321 --> 00:26:37,859 It took us a few days to find them 405 00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:39,300 because they're way out in the open ocean. 406 00:26:39,324 --> 00:26:40,964 But when we did, they told us everything. 407 00:26:40,997 --> 00:26:42,891 They told us who they pay, how much they pay, 408 00:26:43,027 --> 00:26:44,560 and it all checked out. 409 00:26:44,695 --> 00:26:46,308 I haven't been back looking for the Vietnamese guys, 410 00:26:46,332 --> 00:26:47,876 but I would bet that they're still there. 411 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,432 I also would bet that 412 00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:54,742 this story caused some problems for some people, 413 00:26:54,877 --> 00:26:57,208 because all these guys are named. 414 00:26:59,577 --> 00:27:01,916 As a Western journalist, you have to be very cautious 415 00:27:02,051 --> 00:27:04,217 with the way that you approach stories because 416 00:27:04,352 --> 00:27:07,691 you have a completely different angle on everything. 417 00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:10,992 You get people saying, you know, 418 00:27:11,127 --> 00:27:14,161 "What are you doing interfering, it's not your business?" 419 00:27:14,297 --> 00:27:17,201 And, you know, there's some elements of that argument 420 00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:19,665 that I can agree with. 421 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,399 But at the same time, 422 00:27:21,535 --> 00:27:23,969 a great part of the reason why I do this work is because 423 00:27:24,105 --> 00:27:25,902 I've become so attached to the country. 424 00:27:26,037 --> 00:27:28,041 It has become my home. 425 00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:33,915 Thank you. 426 00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:36,214 I have a much stronger connection to this place 427 00:27:36,349 --> 00:27:40,020 and these people than I do to even Australia. 428 00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:46,389 And what happens here does actually affect me. 429 00:27:47,898 --> 00:27:49,399 I know that I'm privileged and lucky 430 00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:51,767 to be able to do what I do. 431 00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:56,499 And I feel like I have a duty to use my skills 432 00:27:56,634 --> 00:28:00,810 as best as I can to try to improve the situation. 433 00:28:22,094 --> 00:28:24,898 - How are you? - Good. 434 00:28:25,034 --> 00:28:28,101 - And it's a wonderful opportunity 435 00:28:28,236 --> 00:28:33,910 to have Matt here again from The Cambodia Daily. 436 00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:38,245 - I moved out to Cambodia from Australia in 2012. 437 00:28:38,381 --> 00:28:42,752 One of the things that I saw was the unsustainable depletion 438 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:45,015 of the natural resources of Cambodia. 439 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:47,021 There's great resources here 440 00:28:47,156 --> 00:28:49,419 in the forest and in the ocean particularly, 441 00:28:49,555 --> 00:28:54,125 and they're all being exploited improperly. 442 00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:57,735 Who here wants to be a journalist? 443 00:29:01,466 --> 00:29:03,064 It's gotten worse since last year. 444 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,967 - It's gotten worse. 445 00:29:05,102 --> 00:29:06,436 - Yeah. 446 00:29:06,571 --> 00:29:09,341 - Why doesn't anyone want to be a journalist? 447 00:29:09,477 --> 00:29:13,043 - Because here for, I think, for Cambodians, like, 448 00:29:13,178 --> 00:29:15,444 we see investigative journalism 449 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:19,115 as sort of, pretty life threatening. 450 00:29:19,251 --> 00:29:22,356 Like, it bars people from it. 451 00:29:22,491 --> 00:29:26,730 - This is like the class for journalism in Cambodia right? 452 00:29:26,865 --> 00:29:29,329 If you're not here, you're not. - Right. 453 00:29:29,465 --> 00:29:30,465 - Yeah. 454 00:29:32,169 --> 00:29:34,370 It's kind of not, not that easy for Cambodians 455 00:29:34,506 --> 00:29:37,036 to stand up and say, 456 00:29:37,172 --> 00:29:38,967 "That's wrong" and "that's wrong" 457 00:29:39,102 --> 00:29:40,574 when it is. 458 00:29:40,709 --> 00:29:42,143 If you do this job 459 00:29:42,278 --> 00:29:43,892 and it doesn't look like many of you want to do it, 460 00:29:43,916 --> 00:29:46,282 but it's a really rewarding kind of job. 461 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:47,510 It's exciting. 462 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,483 Organizations put together lists 463 00:29:51,619 --> 00:29:53,531 of countries that are most dangerous to be journalists in. 464 00:29:53,555 --> 00:29:56,792 And Cambodia recently was named the most dangerous place 465 00:29:56,928 --> 00:29:58,959 to be an environmental journalist. 466 00:29:59,094 --> 00:30:00,624 Over the years we've seen a number 467 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,097 of environmental activists and political commentators 468 00:30:03,232 --> 00:30:06,837 murdered, some in cold blood in broad daylight. 469 00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:10,969 - One of Asia's leading environmental activists 470 00:30:11,104 --> 00:30:13,503 was gunned down in Cambodia. 471 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,847 - The local reporters are much more at risk 472 00:30:22,983 --> 00:30:25,814 than we foreigners are. 473 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:29,055 Deleting a foreigner isn't going to be swept under the carpet 474 00:30:29,191 --> 00:30:33,391 like deleting a local activist can be. 475 00:30:33,526 --> 00:30:36,834 So in some senses, I guess I often feel like 476 00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:39,699 I have a responsibility to the local reporters. 477 00:30:39,835 --> 00:30:41,801 If something goes wrong, 478 00:30:41,937 --> 00:30:43,499 I can pack my bag and go, 479 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:46,305 but the local reporters, they can't. 480 00:30:57,786 --> 00:31:00,022 - Oh, here we go. 481 00:31:01,821 --> 00:31:03,421 Morning. 482 00:31:05,728 --> 00:31:07,557 - Hot, sweaty. 483 00:31:09,398 --> 00:31:11,832 Chasing illegal boats this morning on the way back, 484 00:31:11,968 --> 00:31:14,003 nearly didn't make it on time. 485 00:31:17,371 --> 00:31:22,078 - Yeah. that's been my main work. 486 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,509 I have the guys that all focus on the research, but 487 00:31:25,644 --> 00:31:27,159 I tend to spend most of my time with, on the 488 00:31:27,183 --> 00:31:29,381 sort of, legal fishing and the IUU. 489 00:31:31,317 --> 00:31:34,156 - It's better but it's harder. 490 00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:37,324 I've been on this personally for around eight years 491 00:31:37,459 --> 00:31:40,058 and I was financing it from businesses that I had 492 00:31:40,193 --> 00:31:41,798 and we can see the finish line, 493 00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:43,334 we've just got to this point where 494 00:31:43,427 --> 00:31:45,035 basically I've run out of money. 495 00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:46,680 I mean, I've sold my land, I've sold my house, 496 00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:47,704 I've sold everything. 497 00:31:47,838 --> 00:31:49,502 And I'm now at a point where we, 498 00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:52,504 we basically struggling just to buy the food every day. 499 00:31:52,639 --> 00:31:55,578 So we applied to the conservation fund of Canada 500 00:31:55,713 --> 00:31:57,179 for an emergency grant 501 00:31:57,314 --> 00:31:59,614 so that we could basically continue the patrols, 502 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:00,916 which was $3000 a month 503 00:32:01,051 --> 00:32:03,345 to cover fuel and the patrol team 504 00:32:03,481 --> 00:32:06,021 and then an extra thousand for 505 00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:09,223 like, maintenance and stuff like that. 506 00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:23,138 - Yeah. 507 00:32:31,812 --> 00:32:33,082 Oof. 508 00:32:58,069 --> 00:33:01,770 - I found out that one Cambodian fishing village 509 00:33:01,906 --> 00:33:06,710 on the coast has gone particularly militant. 510 00:33:06,846 --> 00:33:10,250 Prek Tanin, or "Shock Village" as it's known locally, 511 00:33:10,385 --> 00:33:13,485 is just a few K's from MCC's Island. 512 00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:16,453 And I'd heard that 513 00:33:16,589 --> 00:33:19,491 they've electrified all their nets. 514 00:33:26,034 --> 00:33:27,835 See this blue electric, 515 00:33:27,971 --> 00:33:30,238 this blue wire down here, 516 00:33:30,971 --> 00:33:32,405 that's electric. 517 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,644 This chain runs around the mouth of the net 518 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:42,849 and then this electric current is hooked onto the chain. 519 00:33:42,985 --> 00:33:44,518 They'll tell us that 520 00:33:44,653 --> 00:33:46,394 that electric wire is for their lights and stuff but 521 00:33:46,418 --> 00:33:47,883 right here we can see that 522 00:33:48,018 --> 00:33:50,186 it's hooked up to the mouth of the trawling net. 523 00:34:04,403 --> 00:34:05,634 They know that we're here 524 00:34:05,769 --> 00:34:09,375 collecting information so that's... 525 00:34:09,511 --> 00:34:12,082 we collected the right information that means. 526 00:34:13,846 --> 00:34:17,054 Getting kicked out is always a good sign, right? 527 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:28,358 - Oh wait, you're together. 528 00:34:28,494 --> 00:34:29,763 - Don't show it. 529 00:34:29,898 --> 00:34:30,932 Don't show yet. 530 00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:32,564 - Aren't you playing Braiden? 531 00:34:36,433 --> 00:34:38,405 Okay, let's do it. 532 00:34:39,942 --> 00:34:41,474 Start the engine. 533 00:34:55,154 --> 00:34:56,589 Just be careful. 534 00:34:56,724 --> 00:34:58,636 There's something a little bit strange about them. 535 00:34:58,660 --> 00:35:02,425 They have their light on and they're signaling to us. 536 00:35:02,561 --> 00:35:04,667 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right here! 537 00:35:04,803 --> 00:35:06,033 Okay, let's bring it in! 538 00:35:06,169 --> 00:35:07,604 This way! This way! This way! 539 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,198 Here! Here! Here! 540 00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:10,706 - Ah man! 541 00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:12,669 That kills my heart man! 542 00:35:12,805 --> 00:35:14,514 - Bring him out! Bring him out! Bring him out! 543 00:35:14,538 --> 00:35:15,838 - He's dead already! 544 00:35:17,475 --> 00:35:18,674 - He's not breathe- 545 00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:20,091 Oh yes! He breathes! He breathes! 546 00:35:20,115 --> 00:35:21,448 - Get it in the ocean! 547 00:35:21,583 --> 00:35:22,963 - You got to go, you got to go in there. 548 00:35:22,987 --> 00:35:24,315 - Come on. - Come on 549 00:35:24,451 --> 00:35:25,559 - You've got to breathe, man. 550 00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,553 - Come on, you need to breathe! 551 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,858 - Hey, hey. 552 00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:32,428 - Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok. 553 00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:33,690 Bok! 554 00:35:33,826 --> 00:35:36,292 Come back here. We take the net, you quiet. 555 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,096 Small scale! Dude! 556 00:35:38,231 --> 00:35:40,270 Small scale! Bok! 557 00:35:40,405 --> 00:35:43,635 Alright. Take all those needle fish off this boat. 558 00:35:58,251 --> 00:35:59,750 Come sit down 559 00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:09,397 - Was it a good catch tonight? 560 00:36:49,072 --> 00:36:50,371 Just take time. 561 00:36:50,507 --> 00:36:52,027 I'm sorry I can't make it any faster. 562 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:55,574 I'd like to make it faster, but I can't. You know? 563 00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:57,907 Maybe he wants to give his phone number or 564 00:36:58,043 --> 00:36:59,812 take the phone number from one of you yeah, 565 00:36:59,948 --> 00:37:02,582 so when he hear the pair trawler or the Vietnamese boats come in, 566 00:37:02,717 --> 00:37:05,314 he can call to us we can inform or help him. 567 00:37:05,449 --> 00:37:06,586 I think is good. 568 00:37:16,895 --> 00:37:19,099 - Damn. - Yeah we raised those fish. 569 00:37:19,234 --> 00:37:20,963 - Yeah we did. 570 00:37:32,142 --> 00:37:35,211 - Small scale fishermen have been here since 571 00:37:35,346 --> 00:37:38,651 the area was repopulated after the fall of the Khmer Rouge. 572 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:47,528 A large portion of Cambodians still live in severe poverty. 573 00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:58,100 The fishermen who are scrapping for their survival every day 574 00:37:58,235 --> 00:38:00,369 are left to kind of fight amongst themselves, 575 00:38:00,504 --> 00:38:01,938 which is so sad. 576 00:38:15,857 --> 00:38:18,295 - Small scale fishermen use methods that 577 00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,858 aren't that destructive and are sustainable. 578 00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:24,895 But then you have the illegal fishermen from Vietnam 579 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:27,629 and the electric boats come into Cambodia 580 00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:29,130 and take as many fish 581 00:38:29,265 --> 00:38:31,902 as a small fishermen would take in months. 582 00:38:46,853 --> 00:38:49,117 So the Cambodian fishermen upgrade 583 00:38:49,253 --> 00:38:53,421 to using electric trawlers, just to keep up. 584 00:38:53,556 --> 00:38:57,699 - I was having a discussion with an illegal fishermen one time 585 00:38:57,835 --> 00:39:01,668 and I was sat on the boat in all my righteousness of, 586 00:39:01,803 --> 00:39:04,966 "Your children aren't going to have any fish." 587 00:39:05,102 --> 00:39:06,662 This guy turned around to me and went, 588 00:39:06,742 --> 00:39:07,847 "Well, if I don't catch the fish today, 589 00:39:07,871 --> 00:39:09,445 I won't have any children." 590 00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:12,480 I can't answer that. 591 00:39:12,616 --> 00:39:14,616 If you don't feed the kids, kids die. 592 00:39:14,751 --> 00:39:16,711 He's not thinking about tomorrow or the next day, 593 00:39:16,785 --> 00:39:18,520 or what these kids will have in the future. 594 00:39:18,655 --> 00:39:21,853 So, it changed me and it changed my mentality. 595 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,431 I absolutely adore my kids. 596 00:39:30,567 --> 00:39:31,706 I'm the luckiest man on the planet 597 00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:34,229 to have such wonderful kids. 598 00:39:34,365 --> 00:39:37,269 But, bringing up kids in the world that we live in 599 00:39:37,404 --> 00:39:39,101 is hard. So hard. 600 00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:45,740 Our societies are built on so many of the wrong criteria. 601 00:39:45,876 --> 00:39:48,110 This all washed in today. 602 00:39:55,521 --> 00:39:56,752 - But I hope that 603 00:39:56,888 --> 00:39:59,321 growing up the way they have, 604 00:39:59,456 --> 00:40:03,796 they will all be advocates and ambassadors of nature. 605 00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:08,031 - Tiny little fish baby. Wow. 606 00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:10,638 - They're interested in nature. 607 00:40:10,773 --> 00:40:13,671 They're interesting in how nature works. 608 00:40:13,806 --> 00:40:16,479 They ask all the right questions. 609 00:40:21,179 --> 00:40:23,117 - Sometimes the kids ask me questions that 610 00:40:23,253 --> 00:40:24,586 properly make me cry 611 00:40:24,721 --> 00:40:26,423 because I don't have an answer for them. 612 00:40:35,732 --> 00:40:38,667 - But I hope that they will realize that 613 00:40:38,802 --> 00:40:42,668 our natural world is more important than anything 614 00:40:42,804 --> 00:40:46,740 because without it, what do we have? 615 00:40:49,746 --> 00:40:52,481 My kids make me feel like I have to continue 616 00:40:52,617 --> 00:40:55,245 Like, I have to be an example to them. 617 00:41:08,891 --> 00:41:10,797 - Happy New Year! 618 00:41:24,781 --> 00:41:27,815 - We want to conserve the environment 619 00:41:27,950 --> 00:41:31,213 and at the same time we want to bring some culture, 620 00:41:31,348 --> 00:41:34,117 Cambodian culture, into the conservation. 621 00:42:05,751 --> 00:42:07,682 - Guys go! 1, 2, 3! 622 00:42:24,705 --> 00:42:26,600 - I want to see it recover. 623 00:42:26,736 --> 00:42:30,344 I want to see happy long-tail fishermen fishing legally, 624 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,878 catching great big crabs. 625 00:42:33,013 --> 00:42:34,493 I want to see the little communities 626 00:42:34,517 --> 00:42:35,882 becoming communities again 627 00:42:36,017 --> 00:42:37,423 where they don't have to move away to get jobs 628 00:42:37,447 --> 00:42:39,754 where they can just go into the ocean. 629 00:42:41,289 --> 00:42:45,155 I want to go diving and see the stuff that should be there. 630 00:42:46,762 --> 00:42:48,102 I want to see blue water every day 631 00:42:48,126 --> 00:42:49,830 cause it's not foul and disgusting 632 00:42:49,965 --> 00:42:52,734 from being dragged up with the trawlers. 633 00:42:53,931 --> 00:42:56,001 It could be beautiful. 634 00:42:57,275 --> 00:42:59,169 It was beautiful once. 635 00:43:12,884 --> 00:43:14,789 - We've got 25 minutes. 636 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:25,966 For years I'd heard that 637 00:43:26,101 --> 00:43:28,537 the Vietnamese pair trawlers fishing in Cambodia 638 00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:31,300 come from the island of Phu Quoc, 639 00:43:31,435 --> 00:43:33,770 which on a map appears to be in Cambodian water 640 00:43:33,906 --> 00:43:36,008 but is in fact Vietnamese. 641 00:43:37,774 --> 00:43:40,881 So, I wanted to see what was actually happening there. 642 00:43:48,651 --> 00:43:51,058 And there's a lot of strange underwater creatures 643 00:43:51,194 --> 00:43:54,994 for sale there that you can pick out of a tank and then eat. 644 00:43:56,233 --> 00:43:57,759 What's that guy? 645 00:43:57,894 --> 00:43:58,928 Shark, yeah? 646 00:43:59,064 --> 00:44:02,134 Kinda looks like a reef shark. 647 00:44:02,269 --> 00:44:05,103 Come have a look at the colors on these Stingrays. 648 00:44:08,073 --> 00:44:10,137 - You want to take a picture? 649 00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:12,341 - Eco tours, hey? - Yeah. 650 00:44:12,477 --> 00:44:15,347 - So can you do a tour into the ocean or not? 651 00:44:15,482 --> 00:44:16,752 - Nah. 652 00:44:21,686 --> 00:44:23,088 - Why? 653 00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:26,389 - Overfishing? Really? 654 00:44:26,524 --> 00:44:29,358 You know about the fishermen going into Cambodia? 655 00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:40,939 - Wow. 656 00:44:41,074 --> 00:44:42,474 - Yeah we just get in the evening. 657 00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:43,978 - From the boat? - Yes... 658 00:44:44,113 --> 00:44:46,480 - Okay. and they go to the, across the river here? 659 00:44:46,615 --> 00:44:48,350 - Yes from the ocean. 660 00:44:48,486 --> 00:44:50,247 - I want to see the boat. 661 00:44:50,382 --> 00:44:52,652 When the boat comes back to the village. 662 00:44:52,787 --> 00:44:54,123 What would be a good time to go? 663 00:44:54,258 --> 00:44:55,258 - Morning. 664 00:44:55,292 --> 00:44:56,350 - Morning? 665 00:44:56,486 --> 00:44:58,224 Oh, they come back in the morning. 666 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,264 - They come back in the morning after they catch the fish. 667 00:45:01,399 --> 00:45:02,399 - Okay, good luck man. 668 00:45:02,432 --> 00:45:03,432 I'll see you. 669 00:45:03,531 --> 00:45:04,998 Thank you. 670 00:45:25,722 --> 00:45:28,725 These things are slowly dying. 671 00:45:31,087 --> 00:45:32,960 Pregnant seahorse. 672 00:45:34,464 --> 00:45:35,831 Big fella too. 673 00:45:50,009 --> 00:45:51,673 I found a fishing village 674 00:45:51,809 --> 00:45:56,280 that is said to be the hub for the giant pair trawlers. 675 00:46:03,593 --> 00:46:05,388 Oh yeah, there it is. 676 00:47:04,316 --> 00:47:07,215 - One boat fishes, one brings ice. 677 00:47:07,351 --> 00:47:09,452 One fishes and one brings ice. 678 00:47:14,992 --> 00:47:19,165 Those guys on the second boat over: "No photos, no photos." 679 00:47:26,773 --> 00:47:28,240 How are you man? 680 00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:40,318 You can see the size of the nets. 681 00:47:41,553 --> 00:47:45,587 Hundreds and hundreds of meters worth of nets. 682 00:47:51,002 --> 00:47:52,795 One of these boats can come into Cambodia 683 00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:57,368 and take as many fish as a small trawler would take in months. 684 00:48:03,641 --> 00:48:06,916 It's industrial fishing on a large scale. 685 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:26,299 Cambodians and Vietnamese, 686 00:48:26,434 --> 00:48:30,467 they're not competing on a level playing field. 687 00:48:33,075 --> 00:48:35,471 These commercial scale trawlers are 688 00:48:35,606 --> 00:48:37,938 undoubtedly coming across the border 689 00:48:38,074 --> 00:48:42,284 and harvesting millions of dollars worth of Cambodian fish 690 00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:46,956 that subsistence fishermen in Cambodia need just to get by. 691 00:48:49,722 --> 00:48:51,992 Which is why the trawlers of Prek Tanin in Cambodia 692 00:48:52,127 --> 00:48:54,327 have wired their nets with electric 693 00:48:54,462 --> 00:48:58,330 because there's simply nothing left for them to catch. 694 00:50:29,524 --> 00:50:34,591 We're managing to prove that the blocks are working. 695 00:50:36,794 --> 00:50:40,397 The next step is for the MFMA to be agreed upon 696 00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:43,270 by all of the different stakeholders, 697 00:50:43,405 --> 00:50:45,437 the local fishing communities, fishers, 698 00:50:45,572 --> 00:50:47,638 various different levels of government, 699 00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:51,912 which then allows us to continue to do work on the plan. 700 00:50:52,048 --> 00:50:54,048 - But now I'm working for Paul 701 00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,746 on communication with the communities 702 00:50:56,882 --> 00:51:03,059 and the fishermen about the MFMA and it's really good. 703 00:52:26,244 --> 00:52:27,905 - More than this? - Yeah, more than this, 704 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,275 Yeah. 705 00:52:29,411 --> 00:52:30,718 Do you know who's making them now? 706 00:52:30,742 --> 00:52:32,676 Are they buying them from Vietnam or 707 00:52:32,811 --> 00:52:34,651 other people in Cambodia are you making them? 708 00:52:34,678 --> 00:52:36,915 - Vietnam - Vietnam sir. 709 00:52:37,051 --> 00:52:38,282 - Do you ever, 710 00:52:38,418 --> 00:52:39,492 the fishermen that you arrest 711 00:52:39,516 --> 00:52:41,223 do they ever get angry? 712 00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:54,265 The head of the Kampot fisheries, Sorin, 713 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,205 he's one of these new breed 714 00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,071 of officials who have come into government 715 00:52:58,206 --> 00:52:59,538 looking to concentrate on issues 716 00:52:59,673 --> 00:53:02,171 that just haven't been a focus for the government 717 00:53:02,307 --> 00:53:03,773 in years past. 718 00:53:13,951 --> 00:53:17,484 - The fisheries are almost fatally hamstrung 719 00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:19,393 by a lack of resources, 720 00:53:19,529 --> 00:53:23,694 which kind of leaves a gap for people like Paul. 721 00:53:25,060 --> 00:53:28,134 - So, this was our original request, 722 00:53:28,269 --> 00:53:30,138 so it was four different zones, 723 00:53:30,274 --> 00:53:32,335 which equaled out to 5 kilometers 724 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,703 away from the islands. 725 00:53:34,839 --> 00:53:36,873 We've got this conservation area agreed 726 00:53:37,008 --> 00:53:39,481 but we making it square so it makes it slightly bigger. 727 00:53:39,617 --> 00:53:40,810 - Yeah. 728 00:53:40,945 --> 00:53:42,559 - The Koh Pu and Mak Prang one we cut down, 729 00:53:42,583 --> 00:53:44,781 which covers the seagrass and Mak Prang, 730 00:53:44,916 --> 00:53:46,822 We're talking about 70 square kilometers 731 00:53:46,958 --> 00:53:48,523 - Okay. - Together. 732 00:53:48,659 --> 00:53:51,030 - And you get four islands in... - We get four islands in yeah. 733 00:53:51,054 --> 00:53:52,923 Four islands with Koh Seh and Mak Prang. 734 00:53:53,059 --> 00:53:56,830 - Things can move really, really slowly in Cambodian bureaucracy. 735 00:53:56,965 --> 00:53:58,096 - Oh yeah. Cool. 736 00:53:58,232 --> 00:53:59,665 So that's the idea. 737 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,247 It will still has to go through the consultations 738 00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:02,663 so it will change slightly but... 739 00:54:02,798 --> 00:54:06,374 so yeah, got to get it done now. 740 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,254 - We were able to publish a number of stories about 741 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:21,963 conservation and destruction of the ocean 742 00:54:21,987 --> 00:54:24,887 which is something that hadn't been written about a lot. 743 00:54:26,994 --> 00:54:30,795 - My work and Paul's work I guess kind of work together. 744 00:54:30,931 --> 00:54:33,009 Paul does something and then I write a story about it 745 00:54:33,033 --> 00:54:35,867 and then we publish it and then more people know about it. 746 00:54:36,002 --> 00:54:40,502 And their story is slowly starting to get out there. 747 00:54:40,638 --> 00:54:41,647 I suppose it was seahorses 748 00:54:41,671 --> 00:54:42,703 that started everything. 749 00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:44,045 I spent a long time with them. 750 00:54:44,181 --> 00:54:45,745 They sort of get to know you, 751 00:54:45,881 --> 00:54:48,283 you can spend a long time photographing and videoing them. 752 00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:50,418 I developed a sort of relationship... 753 00:55:16,373 --> 00:55:18,378 - Mmh 754 00:55:18,514 --> 00:55:20,109 It was really, really hard to choose, 755 00:55:20,245 --> 00:55:24,484 like between something that was chunky, heavy, and solid 756 00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:28,522 or something that was like light and fast. 757 00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:32,058 Its looking very, very nice. 758 00:55:32,194 --> 00:55:33,386 It's beautiful isn't it? 759 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,033 - So you can just drive it straight 760 00:55:38,168 --> 00:55:39,288 into some of these trawlers. 761 00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:42,107 - But they've done a beautiful job. 762 00:55:42,164 --> 00:55:45,936 They got a little bit on the front. 763 00:55:46,071 --> 00:55:48,476 The International Conservation Fund of Canada 764 00:55:48,612 --> 00:55:52,040 managed to supply funds to buy a speed boat. 765 00:55:53,413 --> 00:55:55,077 Who knows about this? 766 00:55:55,212 --> 00:55:58,352 - Up until a couple of days ago, absolutely no one. 767 00:55:58,488 --> 00:56:01,749 Now, Sorin and all his team know, 768 00:56:01,885 --> 00:56:03,625 they've seen all the pictures. 769 00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:04,793 Pardon? 770 00:56:04,928 --> 00:56:06,120 This one? 771 00:56:06,255 --> 00:56:07,855 Yeah, yeah, they're going to change that. 772 00:56:14,566 --> 00:56:16,999 - Hey, Sorin. 773 00:57:09,391 --> 00:57:11,724 - Tie that boat, bring it back. 774 00:57:29,374 --> 00:57:32,108 Heading straight in towards us, now he's see our boat coming 775 00:57:32,243 --> 00:57:34,243 he's turned around he's try to run back to Vietnam. 776 00:57:55,732 --> 00:57:58,303 Good job, dad! 777 00:57:58,439 --> 00:57:59,807 - You want to go on? 778 00:57:59,943 --> 00:58:01,039 - Yeah! 779 00:58:01,175 --> 00:58:02,208 - Okay. 780 00:58:02,343 --> 00:58:04,645 - I'm going first! 781 00:58:13,189 --> 00:58:14,419 I don't know, 782 00:58:14,554 --> 00:58:18,120 I think it was out... 783 00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:21,629 The success that we're seeing is quite amazing. 784 00:58:23,063 --> 00:58:25,601 These boats that have been able to come in here 785 00:58:25,736 --> 00:58:28,301 for many, many years and do whatever they like, 786 00:58:28,437 --> 00:58:31,432 and now there's a defense 787 00:58:31,568 --> 00:58:36,138 and this means that the pressure for illegal fishers is huge. 788 00:58:43,919 --> 00:58:46,753 Okay, Paul, it's recording. 789 00:59:28,526 --> 00:59:32,232 Recently, we've seen that the illegal fishers themselves 790 00:59:32,368 --> 00:59:34,295 are exceedingly violent. 791 00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:45,707 The success that we've had is resulting 792 00:59:45,843 --> 00:59:47,847 for sure in a backlash. 793 00:59:55,888 --> 00:59:58,021 They really need to get rid of us 794 00:59:58,157 --> 01:00:00,961 because what we're doing is successful. 795 01:00:01,097 --> 01:00:04,758 Okay, there's about seven or eight boats from Prek Tanin, 796 01:00:04,893 --> 01:00:06,933 chasing us here. 797 01:00:07,069 --> 01:00:08,913 You see them all. You hear the noises this is all 798 01:00:08,937 --> 01:00:12,040 the boats chasing behind, throwing rocks. 799 01:00:12,175 --> 01:00:13,338 - Hold on! 800 01:00:19,442 --> 01:00:22,944 We're just 2 boats up against fucking 10. 801 01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:24,950 They're fucking everywhere. 802 01:00:29,458 --> 01:00:31,220 We're being attacked. 803 01:00:57,381 --> 01:01:00,148 I've always thought that when things are wrong 804 01:01:00,284 --> 01:01:01,764 and nobody does anything about them, 805 01:01:01,788 --> 01:01:04,055 they just continue to be wrong. 806 01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:06,154 You have to stand up at that point and say, 807 01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:09,258 "Right, no, I'm not taking this." 808 01:01:18,768 --> 01:01:20,104 Alright. 809 01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:22,710 What I'm gonna do now is I'm at the pier 810 01:01:22,845 --> 01:01:25,272 and I'm going to go and drive across 811 01:01:25,407 --> 01:01:27,547 to show just how easy it is to find 812 01:01:27,682 --> 01:01:29,278 where the electric trawlers are. 813 01:01:29,414 --> 01:01:31,127 And the fact that they've come into our area now 814 01:01:31,151 --> 01:01:33,346 three nights running almost all night. 815 01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:35,384 Plus we've got dead dolphins again. 816 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,024 I'm going to show you how easy it is to find them. 817 01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:41,654 So right now I'm going to turn the camera around. 818 01:01:41,790 --> 01:01:45,829 You don't have to be awake all night chasing boats, 819 01:01:45,964 --> 01:01:48,197 spending lots of fuel and time. 820 01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:52,134 What we can do, or what anybody can do, 821 01:01:52,270 --> 01:01:53,834 is just wait for them where they are. 822 01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:55,369 Yeah? - Yeah. 823 01:01:55,504 --> 01:01:57,574 - Four years and they still operate. 824 01:01:57,709 --> 01:01:58,709 They get caught, 825 01:01:58,745 --> 01:02:00,344 the gear gets taken off, 826 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,456 somehow a lot of that gear actually gets returned to them 827 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,951 and that thing really, really frustrates me. 828 01:02:05,086 --> 01:02:08,388 I do not understand how they can be caught, 829 01:02:08,524 --> 01:02:09,990 the gear is confiscated, 830 01:02:10,125 --> 01:02:12,287 and then the same boats are out with the same gear. 831 01:02:12,422 --> 01:02:14,093 We've even marked some of that gear 832 01:02:14,229 --> 01:02:17,561 and then found that same gear back on those boats. 833 01:02:17,697 --> 01:02:18,960 Oh I see them. 834 01:02:19,096 --> 01:02:21,935 - Yeah. - Pretty close. 835 01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:24,001 - Can we see all those boats? - Yeah. Yeah. 836 01:02:24,136 --> 01:02:25,638 - So we're just going to go past, 837 01:02:25,773 --> 01:02:27,438 so it's been around five minutes 838 01:02:27,574 --> 01:02:29,922 and already we're at the place where they could be inspected, 839 01:02:29,946 --> 01:02:32,978 they could be inspected every single day. 840 01:02:33,113 --> 01:02:35,111 None of these folks have registered. 841 01:02:35,247 --> 01:02:36,912 They're here everyday and night. 842 01:02:37,047 --> 01:02:38,516 - Everyday and night. 843 01:02:38,652 --> 01:02:40,252 The problem is 844 01:02:40,388 --> 01:02:42,067 the block system is going to take a few months to get in 845 01:02:42,091 --> 01:02:44,518 and these guys are now going full on full out 846 01:02:44,653 --> 01:02:46,327 because they know it's going to happen. 847 01:02:46,462 --> 01:02:47,762 We need some help. 848 01:02:47,898 --> 01:02:49,435 We need assistance to stop these boats 849 01:02:49,459 --> 01:02:51,127 whilst we're installing the blocks 850 01:02:51,263 --> 01:02:54,297 before there's nothing left to protect. 851 01:02:58,835 --> 01:03:03,002 The status quo on the coast has existed for a long time. 852 01:03:03,138 --> 01:03:04,946 A boat there. 853 01:03:05,082 --> 01:03:09,277 And Paul is seen as a troublemaker, the foreigner 854 01:03:09,413 --> 01:03:11,578 who's come in and rocked the boat 855 01:03:11,713 --> 01:03:14,955 and so there's people who want him shut down. 856 01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:28,298 - Okay, okay bye. 857 01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:37,145 We've been stopped from going out on patrol. 858 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,474 The local government is trying to avoid international incidents 859 01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:43,815 that cause a problem between Cambodia 860 01:03:43,951 --> 01:03:46,616 and its neighboring countries. 861 01:03:46,752 --> 01:03:50,490 But I think it's being used as an excuse to stop us going out 862 01:03:50,626 --> 01:03:52,454 or have us closed down. 863 01:04:53,422 --> 01:04:54,422 Yeah. 864 01:04:54,555 --> 01:04:55,649 - Sad. 865 01:04:59,758 --> 01:05:01,193 - Yeah. 866 01:05:16,171 --> 01:05:18,111 It's sad. 867 01:05:42,737 --> 01:05:43,933 It's all good. 868 01:05:44,068 --> 01:05:45,672 Come on, Rachana. 869 01:05:45,808 --> 01:05:48,273 Hey, do not break. 870 01:06:04,457 --> 01:06:07,555 - No matter what he's done for the ocean, 871 01:06:07,691 --> 01:06:10,862 they still think that he's a foreigner 872 01:06:10,997 --> 01:06:12,330 and that's really sad. 873 01:06:12,465 --> 01:06:14,761 Like you cannot just say you're the white person, 874 01:06:14,896 --> 01:06:16,630 you don't love my ocean more than I do, 875 01:06:16,766 --> 01:06:19,266 you don't love my country more than I do, 876 01:06:19,402 --> 01:06:22,142 which is completely wrong. 877 01:06:29,281 --> 01:06:32,250 - The frustration and hurt and 878 01:06:32,385 --> 01:06:35,991 how it makes you feel inside is intense. 879 01:06:37,090 --> 01:06:39,753 Watching something you love die 880 01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:46,497 and using every single power that you have 881 01:06:46,632 --> 01:06:49,770 to stop yourself doing the one thing that's right, 882 01:06:49,905 --> 01:06:52,271 which is to go out and stop. 883 01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:16,362 If MCC was removed from Koh Seh, 884 01:07:16,497 --> 01:07:19,428 the fishermen would be lining up to get in there. 885 01:07:19,564 --> 01:07:22,002 Everything that they've worked for, 886 01:07:22,138 --> 01:07:24,567 would be gone in a matter of days. 887 01:07:41,257 --> 01:07:43,758 - Sometimes I think like, are you stupid? 888 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,087 Like are you fucking stupid? 889 01:07:45,223 --> 01:07:46,223 Why do you carry on? 890 01:07:46,257 --> 01:07:48,427 Why are we doing this? 891 01:07:48,562 --> 01:07:53,431 Is your family not more important to you than the ocean? 892 01:07:59,473 --> 01:08:01,542 But last night was bad, there's two big pairs. 893 01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:03,069 I mean like big, 894 01:08:03,205 --> 01:08:04,890 you could see the silhouette bigger than our big boat, 895 01:08:04,914 --> 01:08:06,743 just came straight through here. 896 01:08:06,879 --> 01:08:09,125 That's the thing that I'm trying to get them to understand 897 01:08:09,149 --> 01:08:11,811 at the moment is that, like, 898 01:08:11,946 --> 01:08:13,788 the blocks are the only way to do it. 899 01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:15,488 Even if you've run the patrols, 900 01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:17,397 and even if you catch them an hour into what they're doing, 901 01:08:17,421 --> 01:08:18,953 they've done that damage. 902 01:08:19,088 --> 01:08:21,259 You've got to prevent the damage that they're doing, 903 01:08:21,394 --> 01:08:22,794 it's not just about catching them, 904 01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:24,858 it's about stopping them in the first place. 905 01:08:27,729 --> 01:08:29,069 - It's very clear that 906 01:08:29,204 --> 01:08:31,071 the government has to be convinced 907 01:08:31,206 --> 01:08:33,603 that this is the right thing to do. 908 01:08:41,042 --> 01:08:42,810 This is a story that I wrote for Mongabay. 909 01:08:42,945 --> 01:08:45,317 The most recent story that I've published. 910 01:08:45,453 --> 01:08:47,715 The story itself is about Paul's MFMA 911 01:08:47,850 --> 01:08:49,455 and it's kind of looking forward to, 912 01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:52,858 what could happen if they get this plan underway. 913 01:08:52,994 --> 01:08:55,027 It's Paul and Sar Sorin. 914 01:08:55,163 --> 01:08:57,031 With a bunch of, electric gear 915 01:08:57,167 --> 01:08:59,361 that they've confiscated off boats. 916 01:08:59,496 --> 01:09:01,332 Here's a nice image of a trawler 917 01:09:01,467 --> 01:09:03,798 that I got off the coast of Kampot. 918 01:09:05,637 --> 01:09:09,277 Journalists can make things change. 919 01:09:09,412 --> 01:09:11,643 If we're not exposing some of these things then, 920 01:09:11,779 --> 01:09:15,249 the governments have no reason to do anything about them. 921 01:09:26,156 --> 01:09:29,423 Here we have a trawler illegally fishing right outside our area 922 01:09:29,558 --> 01:09:32,597 within our 300 meters. 923 01:09:32,732 --> 01:09:35,435 You need to sink about five or six of these boats, 924 01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:38,239 put them around, and we got beautiful artificial reef. 925 01:09:39,507 --> 01:09:42,672 We have a second boat in the background there. 926 01:09:42,807 --> 01:09:44,907 We're just waiting on police officers to come 927 01:09:45,043 --> 01:09:47,578 and assist us because we've been told we're not allowed to go 928 01:09:47,713 --> 01:09:49,811 and tackle these big old boats on our own. 929 01:09:51,788 --> 01:09:52,946 There you go. 930 01:09:54,617 --> 01:09:58,392 Feeling fucking frustrated. 931 01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:02,291 Two sets of pair trawlers already doing damage and 932 01:10:02,426 --> 01:10:04,527 absolutely no action. 933 01:10:04,662 --> 01:10:06,493 So here we are again on another night. 934 01:10:06,629 --> 01:10:07,961 Sometimes I really wonder, 935 01:10:08,096 --> 01:10:10,271 like, what is going through their heads. 936 01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:19,309 There's been many times it's been rocky, 937 01:10:19,445 --> 01:10:21,042 but we wouldn't still be here 938 01:10:21,178 --> 01:10:24,980 if the government of Cambodia didn't support what we do. 939 01:10:25,116 --> 01:10:27,618 I don't see an end to it unless they stopped me doing it. 940 01:10:34,129 --> 01:10:38,892 One pair, two pair, one missing. 941 01:10:39,027 --> 01:10:41,001 I want to know where this one's gone. 942 01:10:41,136 --> 01:10:43,733 That's the one I'm looking for. 943 01:10:50,208 --> 01:10:51,976 Can you see it? 944 01:10:53,444 --> 01:10:56,081 You can't see that? 945 01:10:56,216 --> 01:10:58,678 Yeah, he's passing it. 946 01:10:58,813 --> 01:11:01,085 You see over there, Puppet? 947 01:11:01,221 --> 01:11:02,790 - Oh okay let's go. 948 01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:04,121 - Take us towards them. 949 01:11:09,092 --> 01:11:11,893 Is there any way we can get some support from Neak? 950 01:11:12,834 --> 01:11:13,928 Okay. 951 01:11:16,703 --> 01:11:19,835 Yeah, yeah, I know, we should be careful. 952 01:11:23,375 --> 01:11:24,438 He's dropped his net. 953 01:11:24,573 --> 01:11:25,573 He's cut his net. 954 01:11:25,707 --> 01:11:26,939 His net is in the water. 955 01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:29,247 That big motherfucker is running. 956 01:11:29,382 --> 01:11:31,345 Hey move, move, move, move. 957 01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:32,683 Move, now. 958 01:11:34,852 --> 01:11:36,252 - You got one of them there Paul. 959 01:11:36,355 --> 01:11:37,387 - Yeah, yeah I see him. 960 01:11:37,523 --> 01:11:38,665 Hey, Virak, now we've got two. 961 01:11:38,689 --> 01:11:40,020 We're 300 meters from Koh Seh. 962 01:11:40,155 --> 01:11:41,921 One has dropped his net and he's running 963 01:11:42,057 --> 01:11:44,297 and there's one other boat with him. 964 01:11:44,432 --> 01:11:46,095 And he's signaling for his friends. 965 01:11:46,231 --> 01:11:49,264 He's calling his friends, he's signaling to the other boats. 966 01:11:51,933 --> 01:11:53,101 Let's go after the other one. 967 01:11:53,237 --> 01:11:54,539 Carney, 968 01:11:54,675 --> 01:11:57,543 give me the baseball bat just in case. 969 01:12:07,716 --> 01:12:09,918 See the electric cable? 970 01:12:12,392 --> 01:12:14,222 Phon, put me into the front. 971 01:12:14,357 --> 01:12:15,759 Okay? 972 01:12:28,305 --> 01:12:29,942 - Ooh. 973 01:12:30,078 --> 01:12:31,742 You guys, man. 974 01:12:34,016 --> 01:12:35,375 - That is a squid. 975 01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:37,112 Yeah. 976 01:12:37,248 --> 01:12:38,458 You know like the big squid that you see on the market? 977 01:12:38,482 --> 01:12:39,916 That's a baby one. 978 01:12:40,051 --> 01:12:42,422 So he's never going to get to be a big squid. 979 01:12:42,558 --> 01:12:44,685 A whole load of them, tiny little babies. 980 01:12:44,821 --> 01:12:48,428 Never going to get any bigger. 981 01:12:48,563 --> 01:12:49,901 I've had enough of these dudes, man. 982 01:12:49,925 --> 01:12:51,465 He's been told that many times 983 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,862 he's still got electric, they still don't stop. 984 01:12:54,998 --> 01:12:57,933 Phon, do the same, yeah? Tow him. 985 01:13:04,647 --> 01:13:08,748 Even I feel sorry for these guys right now. 986 01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:12,551 But at the same time you've got these legal fishermen out there 987 01:13:12,686 --> 01:13:14,885 and the legal fishermen have nothing 988 01:13:15,020 --> 01:13:18,558 and they're losing their livelihoods to these guys. 989 01:13:53,654 --> 01:13:56,757 - We caught them on time and they pulled the neck and said 990 01:13:56,892 --> 01:13:58,361 they go out but they obviously... 991 01:14:04,071 --> 01:14:05,198 - Yeah. 992 01:14:06,502 --> 01:14:08,171 - Yeah. 993 01:14:08,307 --> 01:14:11,375 MCC's been on the front lines of this battle for years now, 994 01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:14,208 largely on their own. 995 01:14:14,343 --> 01:14:18,552 But, finally the government is starting to realize 996 01:14:18,688 --> 01:14:20,448 that they're doing this for the right reason 997 01:14:20,556 --> 01:14:23,823 and that it's the right thing to do. 998 01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:27,792 - This is the same way they did for Kampot in 2008, I think. 999 01:14:28,961 --> 01:14:31,996 - He posted 1 out of 10 drop the drop. 1000 01:14:32,132 --> 01:14:33,167 - Yeah. 1001 01:14:33,303 --> 01:14:35,133 If we can make, like document, 1002 01:14:35,268 --> 01:14:36,603 like a request, 1003 01:14:36,738 --> 01:14:39,670 then I can show for the donor for the money. 1004 01:14:39,806 --> 01:14:41,841 Now we have full backing and permission 1005 01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:44,607 from high ranking people within the government of Cambodia 1006 01:14:44,742 --> 01:14:47,482 to go out and stop boats again. 1007 01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:32,652 - At the moment we have marine police, provincial police, 1008 01:15:32,787 --> 01:15:34,322 fisheries. 1009 01:15:34,457 --> 01:15:39,900 They've come down to take these people to the court. 1010 01:15:40,035 --> 01:15:42,475 To have the Marine police and the provincial police here means 1011 01:15:42,532 --> 01:15:44,852 that they're really, really starting to take it seriously. 1012 01:15:44,973 --> 01:15:48,642 I'm impressed. I'll be honest, I'm seriously impressed. 1013 01:16:03,951 --> 01:16:06,792 - Yeah. - Okay. 1014 01:16:17,202 --> 01:16:19,242 - It is a big step because when you arrest someone, 1015 01:16:19,303 --> 01:16:22,103 it begins a process that's supposed to be followed. 1016 01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:24,371 Right? And we've seen in the past that 1017 01:16:24,507 --> 01:16:27,613 they don't follow the process, but, every time you see 1018 01:16:27,748 --> 01:16:29,242 the fisheries guys doing their job, 1019 01:16:29,378 --> 01:16:31,344 it's a great sign for things to come. 1020 01:16:41,690 --> 01:16:43,257 Okay. 1021 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,999 The whole MCC project 1022 01:19:01,135 --> 01:19:03,068 was built from scratch by Paul and his people 1023 01:19:03,204 --> 01:19:05,938 with their bare hands and with very little money. 1024 01:19:14,116 --> 01:19:18,278 The problem of overfishing in Cambodia is so complex 1025 01:19:18,414 --> 01:19:22,752 and involves so many moving parts that 1026 01:19:22,888 --> 01:19:24,651 if it can be solved here, 1027 01:19:24,786 --> 01:19:26,992 it can probably be solved anywhere around the world. 1028 01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:48,574 Just on the small scale that we've been doing, 1029 01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:53,920 we have a proof that the ocean can recover. 1030 01:19:57,519 --> 01:20:00,289 The MFMA is enough to give you hope. 1031 01:20:02,030 --> 01:20:03,996 It will be a signal to the illegal fishers, 1032 01:20:04,132 --> 01:20:07,329 the government is serious about changing things. 1033 01:20:16,538 --> 01:20:19,374 - Okay, everybody here this morning, 1034 01:20:19,509 --> 01:20:21,573 I'd like to introduce you to, Angie San 1035 01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:24,484 is the excellency director general of 1036 01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:26,181 Fisheries Administration. 1037 01:20:26,316 --> 01:20:27,888 Director Angel San's come today to 1038 01:20:28,024 --> 01:20:30,121 officially drop the first demarcation blocks 1039 01:20:30,256 --> 01:20:32,893 so that we can begin to protect the area with 1040 01:20:33,028 --> 01:20:36,021 anti-trawling devices that create fish homes. 1041 01:21:09,262 --> 01:21:12,094 - The idea is each block is around 150 1042 01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:13,589 and then we have a big metal pole 1043 01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:15,135 block to join them together. 1044 01:21:15,271 --> 01:21:16,365 - Right. 1045 01:21:17,567 --> 01:21:19,532 - So this is the actual fish aggregation device. 1046 01:21:19,667 --> 01:21:21,533 So it's attracting the fish into it. 1047 01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:23,148 So the moment we put these to the test, 1048 01:21:23,172 --> 01:21:24,874 within one to two days, 1049 01:21:25,009 --> 01:21:26,342 they're full of fish. 1050 01:21:26,477 --> 01:21:28,381 Like, everything is just looking for a home. 1051 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:33,952 For him to come here, for him to say that 1052 01:21:34,088 --> 01:21:35,750 the work we're doing is wonderful 1053 01:21:35,886 --> 01:21:37,798 and it's something that could be implemented in other places 1054 01:21:37,822 --> 01:21:39,357 in Cambodia, 1055 01:21:39,492 --> 01:21:42,660 for him to be so happy with the work that we've done, 1056 01:21:42,796 --> 01:21:44,932 tt's insanely wonderful. 1057 01:21:47,031 --> 01:21:48,798 All very good swimmers. 1058 01:21:48,934 --> 01:21:50,564 Swim from the deep. 1059 01:21:55,473 --> 01:21:58,946 Yeah, onto the front is probably the easiest. 1060 01:22:01,579 --> 01:22:05,346 And just around here is where Rachana made her reef. 1061 01:22:05,481 --> 01:22:07,153 So she's got the two big structure, 1062 01:22:07,289 --> 01:22:09,852 a small one, and then two lions like on the pier. 1063 01:22:09,988 --> 01:22:12,223 It looks very beautiful. 1064 01:22:27,970 --> 01:22:31,407 Rachana is basically the future and the hope of MCC in my mind. 1065 01:22:33,012 --> 01:22:34,474 Mind your toes, mind your feet. 1066 01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:37,684 Go on, out of the way. Come on Rachana, 1067 01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:39,745 I believe under her leadership 1068 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,388 she will take MCC to a different level. 1069 01:22:43,524 --> 01:22:45,054 - 1,2,3! 1070 01:22:57,436 --> 01:23:00,368 - That allows us to do what we've done here 1071 01:23:00,504 --> 01:23:03,043 throughout the whole archipelago. 1072 01:23:12,418 --> 01:23:15,153 It's the beginning of full restoration. 1073 01:23:15,288 --> 01:23:16,923 It's the beginning of the beginning. 1074 01:23:17,059 --> 01:23:19,492 I'm just, I'm buzzing. It's brilliant. 1075 01:23:19,628 --> 01:23:21,153 - Yeah, yeah. 1076 01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:27,393 Thank you very, very much everybody 1077 01:23:27,528 --> 01:23:29,201 for being fucking wonderful! 1078 01:23:32,672 --> 01:23:33,771 Yes! 1079 01:24:36,868 --> 01:24:39,973 - For me, the great power of investigative journalism 1080 01:24:40,108 --> 01:24:43,275 is that it can make things change. 1081 01:24:45,743 --> 01:24:49,775 And, this new job gives me a much bigger platform 1082 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:52,445 and more resources to keep reporting 1083 01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:55,452 the stories that don't get told.