WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:07.800 [stereo buzzing] 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10.520 --> 00:00:13.760 [tape player whirring] 5 00:00:19.360 --> 00:00:20.200 - [Rudy] Bob. 6 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.480 The only way we can possibly prevent you from being indicted 7 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:27.400 is if you come forward, tell the truth, 8 00:00:27.400 --> 00:00:28.680 we can try to work it out. 9 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:30.960 - [Bob] You want me to go and say 10 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:32.920 I did all these kinds of things, I'll never do it. 11 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:34.920 - [Rudy] Why? 12 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.120 - I'm not gonna implicate any of my friends. 13 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:40.600 I'll never hurt Mandato, 14 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:42.960 I'll never hurt Wolff, I'll never hurt Cody. 15 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:44.400 I'm not gonna do it, those are my partners. 16 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:45.400 I'm not gonna do it. 17 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:48.520 And so two guys go and both fuck yourselves. 18 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.320 [suspenseful music] 19 00:01:16.240 --> 00:01:18.400 - [Interviewer] You were a hero to some 20 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:19.960 others were furious at you 21 00:01:19.960 --> 00:01:22.960 that you broke the code of silence among police officers. 22 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.480 - Bob Leuci turned around on the essential problem, 23 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.400 the corruption that existed in the narcotics enforcement. 24 00:01:35.520 --> 00:01:38.200 - It was so difficult to tell who was the good guy 25 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.720 and who was the bad guy. 26 00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:43.440 What is right in this scene? What is wrong? 27 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.520 - [Man] Bob Leuci committed probably more crimes 28 00:01:48.520 --> 00:01:50.400 than almost any other police officer 29 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:51.600 in the city of New York. 30 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.560 - He really thought he was going to be 31 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.160 this great American hero. 32 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.720 [traffic passing] [horn honking] 33 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:13.400 [phone beeping] 34 00:02:16.760 --> 00:02:18.360 - [Bob] Hi Magnus, how are you? 35 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:19.960 - [Magnus] I'm good. How are you? 36 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:21.160 - [Bob] I feel better today. 37 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:23.600 Not great, but better. 38 00:02:23.600 --> 00:02:27.200 - [Magnus] Could we maybe in the next month or so, 39 00:02:27.200 --> 00:02:29.400 find a time? 40 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:30.480 - [Bob] I don't know. 41 00:02:31.640 --> 00:02:32.480 I really don't. 42 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:34.880 I would think so, but I don't know. 43 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.080 I'm afraid, you know what I'm saying? 44 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.920 [suspenseful music] 45 00:02:46.920 --> 00:02:49.480 - Yeah, he's one of the most complex people I know. 46 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:56.320 Cops today may not know Bob personally 47 00:02:56.320 --> 00:02:59.000 or know anything about his unit, the SIU. 48 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:03.280 They say terrible things about it. 49 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.360 Because that's what you do to demonstrate your loyalty 50 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:08.280 to the brotherhood. 51 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.840 If there's a cop who rats on another cop, 52 00:03:15.760 --> 00:03:20.760 his home will have a wreath put on the door 53 00:03:21.040 --> 00:03:25.280 and the wreath is made up of a string of dead rats. 54 00:03:27.480 --> 00:03:29.640 It's a sign, we're watching you buddy. 55 00:03:30.480 --> 00:03:31.880 Watch your step. 56 00:03:31.880 --> 00:03:34.600 [sirens wailing] 57 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.240 - Our next guest is a man who at one time 58 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:42.400 was a top New York City detective. 59 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.240 His testimony broke one of the biggest tales of corruption 60 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.600 ever uncovered in New York City Police Department. 61 00:03:47.600 --> 00:03:50.200 - He gave up the code. 62 00:03:50.200 --> 00:03:54.120 He made the NYPD look like garbage 63 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.280 and was a criminal just like the drug dealers 64 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:58.760 that he covered. 65 00:03:58.760 --> 00:04:02.760 - How did you wind up being a crooked cop? 66 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:08.040 - When I was in training, his name was among the names 67 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:09.880 I was told not to work with. 68 00:04:09.880 --> 00:04:11.400 His shield was for sale 69 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.600 and he was a disgrace to what we stood for. 70 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:19.320 And the thought was, if I worked with him, I could get hurt. 71 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.160 [soft guitar music] 72 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.080 - [Bob] A lot of people have gotten angry with me. 73 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:28.120 You know, why are you doing this? 74 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.280 Why are you opening this all up again? 75 00:04:30.280 --> 00:04:32.360 And they throw darts at my picture. 76 00:04:34.280 --> 00:04:35.840 We'll set it up and I'll do it, okay? 77 00:04:35.840 --> 00:04:38.000 - Yeah, let's do that. - All right. 78 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.120 - Cool, okay, see you soon. - Bye, bye. 79 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.840 ♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪ 80 00:04:42.840 --> 00:04:45.920 ♪ Pick your stick and hang it on the wall ♪ 81 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.800 ♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪ 82 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.520 ♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪ 83 00:04:51.520 --> 00:04:55.040 ♪ There a black eight, won't roll straight ♪ 84 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.000 ♪ Scratch every match and you're easy bait ♪ 85 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.880 ♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪ 86 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:03.960 ♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪ 87 00:05:03.960 --> 00:05:05.440 [dog barking] 88 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:07.080 - Don't you, that's too close! 89 00:05:07.080 --> 00:05:09.360 Get--fucking back up. 90 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:10.200 Back up. 91 00:05:11.960 --> 00:05:14.000 Jesus, these fucking Norwegian pricks. 92 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.200 Underneath my coat. - All right. 93 00:05:20.200 --> 00:05:21.640 - [Bob] Does that make any sense? 94 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.040 - [Interviewer] How do you feel about this? 95 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.120 - Well, I mean, really it's hard in the beginning 96 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.800 but we'll get going and get it right. 97 00:05:38.640 --> 00:05:43.280 - Having a documentary about him at this stage in his life 98 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.120 would really put things in perspective for him, 99 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.600 for his family, for his friends, 100 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.200 for anyone who saw it who knew him 101 00:05:55.200 --> 00:05:58.520 from the beginning of this journey that he took. 102 00:05:59.440 --> 00:06:01.840 [soft music] 103 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:05.800 - I should have the students sign up pretty soon. 104 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:06.880 I mean, I'm not sure, 105 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:08.680 I fill my classes usually. 106 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:14.760 I train police all over the country. 107 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:18.800 I talk to them about working undercover. 108 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.240 I try to explain to them what you have to do 109 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.240 to make sure you understand who you are. 110 00:06:28.840 --> 00:06:32.720 Once you become a reflection of the people that you police, 111 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.040 you begin looking like them, dressing like them, 112 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.840 wearing your hair like them, talking like them. 113 00:06:38.880 --> 00:06:40.840 You've been then taken by them. 114 00:06:40.840 --> 00:06:42.440 That's a world you visit. 115 00:06:42.440 --> 00:06:45.080 It's not a world you become part of. 116 00:06:45.080 --> 00:06:46.880 And I became part of it. 117 00:06:48.880 --> 00:06:51.600 ♪ He is on your side ♪ 118 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:55.640 - [Narrator] Yes, the man in blue is on your side. 119 00:06:55.640 --> 00:06:57.720 Cooperate with the New York City police officers 120 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.240 in your neighborhood. 121 00:07:01.440 --> 00:07:04.040 - My whole life from the time I was 18, 122 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:05.480 I always wanted to be a policeman. 123 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.880 [soft music] 124 00:07:10.280 --> 00:07:12.440 There's a certain kind of bonding that takes place 125 00:07:12.440 --> 00:07:14.640 that you don't find in any other profession. 126 00:07:19.320 --> 00:07:22.480 And I couldn't imagine living any other kind of life. 127 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:24.400 [sirens] [police radio] 128 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.080 I was a good kid in high school. 129 00:07:30.080 --> 00:07:33.040 I went to college and played football out in Kansas. 130 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:38.120 I never smoked a joint. 131 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:40.920 I never broke any law. 132 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.960 I took the test when I was 19. 133 00:07:51.760 --> 00:07:54.040 I came back and I became a cop. 134 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:06.720 My father was a socialist, really a communist. 135 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:08.840 He didn't have a great love for the police. 136 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.600 And he hated the idea that I would become a cop. 137 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:15.520 And I probably did it more 138 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:17.680 because he hated the idea so much. 139 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.320 [upbeat music] 140 00:08:27.400 --> 00:08:29.080 - [Reporter] New York City's Police Department, 141 00:08:29.080 --> 00:08:32.720 by far the nation's largest with 31,000 men. 142 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:33.960 - Most of the policemen in this city 143 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:35.760 I think they have a very rough job. 144 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:37.360 I think it's a dangerous job. 145 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.160 - [Woman] The police is doing a good job in their duty 146 00:08:40.160 --> 00:08:42.840 and if it wasn't for them, 147 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.480 a lot of crimes could have been committed. 148 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:47.320 - I was very strong pro-police. 149 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.360 My sense was that if I wear a uniform 150 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.080 and I tell you to do something, you do it. 151 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:06.760 I was a street guy very much. 152 00:09:06.760 --> 00:09:07.920 [upbeat music continues] 153 00:09:07.920 --> 00:09:10.040 I felt very much a part of the city. 154 00:09:10.040 --> 00:09:12.080 The city was my city in a lot of ways. 155 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.720 [siren wailing] 156 00:09:18.040 --> 00:09:20.520 I was young, full of energy. 157 00:09:20.520 --> 00:09:24.600 In a short time, they put me into the narcotics division. 158 00:09:29.280 --> 00:09:32.280 [people chattering] 159 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.440 - Bob Leuci was assigned to my office in Brooklyn 160 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.680 at the time, this was in the early 60s. 161 00:09:45.560 --> 00:09:48.200 He looked like a choir boy and 162 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.960 very innocent looking and didn't look like a policeman. 163 00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:58.800 [suspenseful music] 164 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:00.320 - When you heard the name Baby Face, 165 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.960 you knew it was Bob Leuci. 166 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:05.400 That was his name, Baby Face, 167 00:10:05.400 --> 00:10:07.800 'cause he was so young looking. 168 00:10:07.800 --> 00:10:09.520 - Good looking guy. 169 00:10:09.520 --> 00:10:12.200 Very charming, very personable. 170 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:15.840 Could wrap you around his finger in a minute. 171 00:10:19.640 --> 00:10:21.440 - We were colleagues, 172 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.560 you know, saw each other just about daily. 173 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:27.120 When they'd make arrests, 174 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.400 he was very good with the prisoners. 175 00:10:29.400 --> 00:10:31.880 [man yelling] 176 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:36.840 - [Bob] Calm down, calm down, calm down. 177 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.360 Take it easy, take it easy. 178 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.920 - And because he was an easy going guy, 179 00:10:41.920 --> 00:10:43.640 he was able to charm the prisoners 180 00:10:43.640 --> 00:10:45.720 and get information from them. 181 00:10:46.680 --> 00:10:47.960 - [Prisoner] What a small precinct. 182 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.720 This the lousiest precinct in the Bronx. 183 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.480 - It was mainly his personality that, you know, 184 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.240 that got him moving along. 185 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:04.400 - I was smaller than the average cop 186 00:11:04.400 --> 00:11:06.360 so I used to get dressed up as a woman. 187 00:11:07.760 --> 00:11:09.160 - Do you get a lot of kidding from the boys 188 00:11:09.160 --> 00:11:10.840 when you have to dress up this way? 189 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.840 - You do feel self-conscious, you know, 190 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:19.920 in a way, feel that it isn't your normal dress. 191 00:11:19.920 --> 00:11:21.120 You know, whenever you wear something 192 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.400 that's not your normal dress you think everybody's, 193 00:11:23.400 --> 00:11:24.840 when you go out in the street you feel like, 194 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.120 know that I'm a man, you know, self-conscious. 195 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:34.520 - He had the guile and the persona to sell a character. 196 00:11:34.520 --> 00:11:35.760 He was an actor. 197 00:11:35.760 --> 00:11:38.520 [sirens wailing] 198 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:44.920 [police radio] 199 00:11:50.560 --> 00:11:51.800 - The first thing I would do 200 00:11:51.800 --> 00:11:53.480 as soon as I went out into the street, I would buy drugs. 201 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:54.680 It was so easy for me. 202 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:57.680 There were drugs everywhere 203 00:11:57.680 --> 00:11:59.800 and people always wanted to sell me drugs. 204 00:12:01.040 --> 00:12:02.120 And I'd make arrests. 205 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:07.800 [sirens wailing] 206 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.200 - We must wage what I have called total war 207 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.840 against public enemy number one in the United States, 208 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:20.400 the problem of dangerous drugs. 209 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.240 - [Reporter] Official estimates claim 210 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.480 there are now 300,000 addicts 211 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.640 of heroin alone and a growing proportion 212 00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:32.440 of them are teenagers. 213 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.520 - Everybody in the whole block use heroin. 214 00:12:35.640 --> 00:12:37.760 Old lady, 85, use heroin. 215 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:42.280 Young people nine to 12 use heroin. 216 00:12:42.280 --> 00:12:44.080 - Nine years old? - Nine years old. 217 00:12:46.400 --> 00:12:49.520 - I just tried it once, you know? I wanted to see... 218 00:12:49.520 --> 00:12:53.880 I wanted more of the drugs, I want to get high at times. 219 00:12:55.640 --> 00:12:59.320 - We've got to be harsh with those who are dealing in it 220 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.600 on the street level. 221 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.760 And that's what these youngsters are doing. 222 00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:07.040 [pounding] 223 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.640 [officers yelling] 224 00:13:12.760 --> 00:13:15.920 - Treating addicts as if they are criminals 225 00:13:15.920 --> 00:13:18.520 and chasing them and fighting them and hitting 'em, 226 00:13:18.520 --> 00:13:20.120 I did it for it years. 227 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.200 - [Officer] Easy, easy, easy does it, easy does it. 228 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.560 - Then I had plenty of guys who worked with me in the street 229 00:13:28.560 --> 00:13:32.880 were great informants and then they would beg me for drugs. 230 00:13:35.400 --> 00:13:38.080 And then I got to a point where I was giving drugs 231 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:39.520 to my informants. 232 00:13:39.520 --> 00:13:41.320 I would do it every day almost. 233 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.680 - It was a method of getting information from the addicts 234 00:13:47.680 --> 00:13:49.840 and it was hard to 235 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:52.480 curtail it, 236 00:13:53.920 --> 00:13:57.080 but I made him aware of the dangers involved. 237 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.560 I imagined he understood. 238 00:14:01.680 --> 00:14:04.600 [crowd chattering] 239 00:14:08.400 --> 00:14:09.760 - [Reporter] Wednesday night, 240 00:14:09.760 --> 00:14:11.440 two patrolmen were critically wounded 241 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.440 when their patrol car was riddled with 45 caliber bullets 242 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:18.240 apparently from a submachine gun fired from another auto. 243 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.880 - I regard this as the most dastardly possible act. 244 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:25.200 - At the same time, 245 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.720 there were these various liberation groups going around 246 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.640 killing policemen and shooting them in the back, 247 00:14:31.640 --> 00:14:33.520 and it was a horrible, bad time. 248 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:35.720 - [Reporter] One officer, a negro, 249 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.560 was shot in the back of the head. 250 00:14:37.560 --> 00:14:40.840 The other, a white man, had eight 45 caliber bullets 251 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.200 in his back. 252 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.000 - These people are the worst kind of vermin 253 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.560 that God ever put on this earth. 254 00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:48.640 [people yelling] 255 00:14:48.640 --> 00:14:50.120 [gun firing] 256 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.800 - We had 275 gangs in the Bronx where I was working 257 00:14:53.800 --> 00:14:57.320 when I first started and they all hated cops. 258 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.800 [indistinct voices] 259 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.320 They were killing cops 260 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:06.200 like they would get a cup of coffee. 261 00:15:06.760 --> 00:15:09.760 [intense somber music] 262 00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:14.400 - They say that we were very brutal, you know, in those days. 263 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.560 But fact of the matter is there was brutality all around us. 264 00:15:22.560 --> 00:15:24.720 Y'know, how would you expect us not to be? 265 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.400 [crowd yelling] 266 00:15:28.800 --> 00:15:31.640 [people chanting] 267 00:15:33.920 --> 00:15:35.720 You find that the only people you can trust 268 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:36.920 are other policeman. 269 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.160 You turn inward instead of turning outward. 270 00:15:40.160 --> 00:15:42.080 You turn inward to protect yourself 271 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:45.520 you know, and it becomes this blue code of silence. 272 00:15:48.680 --> 00:15:50.720 [indistinct voices] 273 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.200 - In order to fight and defeat this enemy, 274 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:59.160 it is necessary to wage a new all-out offensive. 275 00:16:02.760 --> 00:16:06.000 I've asked the Congress to provide the legislative authority 276 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.920 and the funds to fuel this kind of offensive. 277 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:11.280 - The teams will be shifted around 278 00:16:11.280 --> 00:16:14.920 to where the action is and where work can be performed. 279 00:16:14.920 --> 00:16:17.520 [upbeat music] 280 00:16:19.400 --> 00:16:21.800 - I wanted to be in this special unit. 281 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.160 [banging] 282 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.120 - [Reporter] The newly formed SIU, 283 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.120 Special Investigations Unit. 284 00:16:31.280 --> 00:16:33.880 - It was a small unit within the narcotics division. 285 00:16:35.560 --> 00:16:37.560 Some of the best detectives in the city. 286 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:41.680 They were the detectives that made 287 00:16:41.680 --> 00:16:43.000 the French Connection case. 288 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.880 - [Reporter] 398 pounds of narcotics 289 00:16:47.880 --> 00:16:50.040 worth at least $70 million. 290 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.720 - This was a combination of about two months 291 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.680 of investigation into the activities 292 00:16:57.680 --> 00:17:00.120 of this particular group of people. 293 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:01.640 - They made up their own cases. 294 00:17:01.640 --> 00:17:03.600 They got their own targets. 295 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.280 They did everything on their own. 296 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.320 [high pitched music] 297 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.120 - [Reporter] This is part of a 12 and a half million dollar 298 00:17:16.120 --> 00:17:19.000 illegal consignment, enough to feed the habits 299 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.160 of all the city's drug addicts for several weeks. 300 00:17:22.600 --> 00:17:25.120 [drumming music] 301 00:17:27.040 --> 00:17:29.080 - [Man] Three out of five major European 302 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:32.400 and South American heroin rings have been busted 303 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.400 in the past a couple of years. 304 00:17:36.560 --> 00:17:39.080 - But everyone in that unit was over six feet tall. 305 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:42.080 They were all ex paratroopers and ex Marines. 306 00:17:42.080 --> 00:17:43.440 It was really a crazy unit. 307 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:47.760 And I was too small. 308 00:17:48.840 --> 00:17:49.800 But I kept insisting 309 00:17:49.800 --> 00:17:52.520 and I was going for interviews and writing, calling. 310 00:17:55.320 --> 00:17:57.080 And finally, they gave me a chance. 311 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.160 I was the first one in the unit under six feet tall. 312 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:15.080 - Somebody once said they were the princes of the city, 313 00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:18.880 they could arrest somebody or not as they choose. 314 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.600 They could do anything they wanted 315 00:18:22.600 --> 00:18:24.600 the way medieval princes could. 316 00:18:24.600 --> 00:18:26.840 They were untouchable. 317 00:18:26.840 --> 00:18:28.800 And they were for a time. 318 00:18:30.040 --> 00:18:33.040 [people chattering] 319 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.280 - What was special about the SIU was that 320 00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:41.640 they didn't have any rules. 321 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.240 They were doing great things. 322 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.200 They were clearing drugs off the street. 323 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.280 They were stopping people from dying. 324 00:18:52.280 --> 00:18:55.320 And so the rules didn't apply to them 325 00:18:55.320 --> 00:18:56.440 and they knew that. 326 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:01.040 [indistinct voices] 327 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.600 As long as they were bringing in the drug kingpins, 328 00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:10.960 nobody asked any questions. 329 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.280 They were the princes, they were the elite. 330 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:16.360 [suspenseful music] 331 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:26.520 - The amount of money involved 332 00:19:26.520 --> 00:19:28.600 in the drug business is astronomical. 333 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.000 I mean, it's beyond anything you could imagine. 334 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:34.840 I would go into an apartment 335 00:19:34.840 --> 00:19:36.480 where there were thousands of dollars laying around 336 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:37.440 all over the place. 337 00:19:40.280 --> 00:19:41.600 These are people who could barely read or write 338 00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:44.040 and they had more money than I could ever dream of having. 339 00:19:47.360 --> 00:19:49.760 - And SIU came in contact 340 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:52.120 with the high level drug dealers 341 00:19:52.120 --> 00:19:53.960 who had a lot of money to corrupt 342 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:55.440 the law enforcement system. 343 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.400 We sort of knew about it 344 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.800 but there was a culture of keep your mouth shut. 345 00:20:01.120 --> 00:20:02.800 [piano music] 346 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.920 - Police corruption has always been there. 347 00:20:11.320 --> 00:20:14.720 It got worse when we started enforcing the drug laws 348 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:18.360 very vigorously, the war on drugs created 349 00:20:18.360 --> 00:20:20.600 or contributed to the corruption. 350 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.000 - I first went into the unit and I was there about a week. 351 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.080 I couldn't find a partner, no one wanted to work with me. 352 00:20:38.280 --> 00:20:39.560 I never had trouble getting partners 353 00:20:39.560 --> 00:20:42.200 but this particular group of guys wouldn't work on me. 354 00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:46.000 I couldn't figure it out until finally somebody said, 355 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.200 "Look, people are afraid of you." 356 00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:50.080 You know... 357 00:20:50.320 --> 00:20:51.560 I said, "Afraid of what?" 358 00:20:53.560 --> 00:20:55.320 Well, if there's money around, 359 00:20:55.320 --> 00:20:57.120 people are gonna take some. 360 00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:59.120 They were afraid if you were gonna be there, 361 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.160 and it was because I never took any money. 362 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:06.720 [suspenseful music] 363 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.360 - You're only making 250 a week. 364 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:11.320 It's tough. 365 00:21:12.280 --> 00:21:16.720 And when some dirt bag out there turns around and says- 366 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.680 - "I can take care of your problem." 367 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:20.560 - "How about I give it 10 grand this week 368 00:21:20.560 --> 00:21:22.800 and 10 grand every week from now on 369 00:21:22.800 --> 00:21:25.960 and you just help me out a little." 370 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.440 It's very easy to be corrupted. 371 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.040 [upbeat music] 372 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:36.960 - There was a retirement party going on 373 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.400 from one of the major chiefs of detectives. 374 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.200 And every detective in New York City 375 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.400 was going to his retirement party, everyone. 376 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:48.520 [music continues] [laughing, cheering] 377 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:51.680 Except me and my team. 378 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.120 And they said, "Well, you guys brand new here. 379 00:21:55.120 --> 00:21:56.600 What we want you to do is to drive 380 00:21:56.600 --> 00:21:59.680 to this location in the Bronx. 381 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.760 And watch these two Cuban guys from Miami 382 00:22:03.760 --> 00:22:05.760 who were gonna be in this motel." 383 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:07.440 Now they were supposed to be major drug dealers, 384 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:09.280 big time drug dealers from Florida. 385 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:12.080 I'm following the one guy, 386 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:14.080 he's going places all over the city. 387 00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:15.400 He's going to places mostly in Harlem 388 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:17.040 and a lot of places in the Bronx. 389 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:19.600 [ominous music] 390 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:21.480 But he's not bringing anything, 391 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:22.760 he's picking things up all the time, 392 00:22:22.760 --> 00:22:25.560 always picking up a bag, an attache case. 393 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:31.120 They go back to the motel 394 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:34.760 and they began emptying their hotel room. 395 00:22:37.560 --> 00:22:40.200 So we call this guy out, 396 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.520 this Cuban guy and my Lieutenant spoke to him. 397 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:46.760 He says he'll get the keys from them 398 00:22:46.760 --> 00:22:48.720 and go open the trunks of the cars. 399 00:22:52.280 --> 00:22:54.680 It was the most money I've ever seen in my life. 400 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:56.280 [music intensifies] 401 00:22:56.280 --> 00:22:58.360 Bundles of money wrapped in red rubber bands 402 00:22:58.360 --> 00:22:59.240 all over the cars. 403 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.360 Cars start pulling up from this party. 404 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.560 A lieutenant and four detectives is five, 405 00:23:11.560 --> 00:23:15.120 another sergeant and four detectives is 10, us four. 406 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:19.400 14 cops in the parking lot of this motel. 407 00:23:21.320 --> 00:23:23.040 He's like, "I don't know, what do you want to do? 408 00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:24.040 What should we do?" 409 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.160 There was no crime there per se 410 00:23:28.040 --> 00:23:29.440 but they had all this money. 411 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:33.680 Everybody's standing around and he looks at me, 412 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.920 because we were brand new, me and my partner. 413 00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:39.600 "What are we going do with it? 414 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.520 Take it? Return it? Turn it over to the police? 415 00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:46.560 What should we do?" 416 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.960 Lieutenant then says, "Look, as far as I'm concerned 417 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.120 we take half the money, give them half the money. 418 00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:57.840 If nobody objects, let them get out of here 419 00:23:57.840 --> 00:23:59.760 and that'll be it." 420 00:24:01.320 --> 00:24:02.160 And I look at him, I'm looking around 421 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.920 and I wanted to raise my hand. 422 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:04.840 I should've said something. 423 00:24:04.840 --> 00:24:06.840 I should've done something, I could have. 424 00:24:06.840 --> 00:24:09.440 And I think it may have ended right there 425 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.240 but I didn't have the courage. 426 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.080 [dramatic music] 427 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.000 - He could have been a good cop. 428 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:35.280 Had he operated in a different time or a different place, 429 00:24:35.280 --> 00:24:37.640 he would have been a very good police officer, 430 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.920 but he came into a culture of corruption. 431 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.640 He became part of it. 432 00:24:44.320 --> 00:24:46.760 - He might as well be dirty and make a profit 433 00:24:46.760 --> 00:24:48.440 and do anything he could 434 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.920 because everybody around him was doing it. 435 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.600 And he adopted right away, became dirty. 436 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:01.360 - When you get to the level of SIU 437 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.080 and you're wearing the suits 438 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:07.080 and you're wearing the hats 439 00:25:07.080 --> 00:25:11.760 and you're becoming engulfed in this new culture, 440 00:25:12.800 --> 00:25:16.640 are you losing sight of who you really are? 441 00:25:20.320 --> 00:25:22.320 - And I want to stop now, okay? 442 00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:23.920 Okay? 443 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:25.440 And then we'll go on from there. 444 00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:27.480 But right now I'm tired. 445 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:41.080 I'll be right outside. - Cool. 446 00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:43.080 - Is that what you want to do, outside right? 447 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:44.800 - Yeah. - Okay. 448 00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:48.960 [heavy breathing] 449 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.880 - It was really important to Bob 450 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.840 that the people that he liked adored him. 451 00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:02.360 He wanted it to be all of his friends' best friend. 452 00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:05.880 [soft music] 453 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:10.320 He was the oldest son in an Italian family. 454 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:16.920 And his mother thought he was the golden boy of New York. 455 00:26:19.520 --> 00:26:22.800 She just thought he was the greatest thing in the world. 456 00:26:22.800 --> 00:26:25.240 Almost every mother thinks that about their children 457 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.720 but I think she took it to a level 458 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:29.840 where he could never do anything wrong. 459 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.640 She had said to him once, 460 00:26:36.040 --> 00:26:37.400 "If you ever kill anyone, 461 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.520 I know it's going to be for a good reason." 462 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:47.880 - And I began doing things that I would never 463 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.640 have dreamt of doing before I became a cop. 464 00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:54.640 [upbeat piano music] 465 00:27:00.320 --> 00:27:04.520 - The SIU evolved into a unit who were really 466 00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:06.880 more gangsters than the police officers. 467 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.360 They took advantage of the opportunities that they had. 468 00:27:10.360 --> 00:27:13.400 [slow jazzy music] 469 00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:19.280 - They went to the best restaurants. 470 00:27:19.280 --> 00:27:22.440 They dressed with Armani suits. 471 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.120 They had the best cars. 472 00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:26.640 Why? 473 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.160 Because they were all stealing. 474 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.800 ♪ Give it up, to give it up ♪ 475 00:27:30.800 --> 00:27:33.960 ♪ You know what's on my mind ♪ 476 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.720 ♪ Give it up, to give it up, girl ♪ 477 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.400 ♪ You've been wastin' too much time ♪ 478 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.840 - They took two bundles of stuff that I had, $5 each, 479 00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:45.440 and $150 I had and they let me go. 480 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:51.400 - They came and took all my drugs and just let me go. 481 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.000 - Who's they? - The police. 482 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:55.720 - It was just breaking the law. 483 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.120 Just violating the law in a very serious way. 484 00:28:00.120 --> 00:28:03.280 I mean, I committed, really, a lot of felony. 485 00:28:05.080 --> 00:28:06.480 ♪ Now give it to me ♪ 486 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.640 - Let some people go and arrest others. 487 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.280 ♪ Give it to me ♪ 488 00:28:14.600 --> 00:28:17.160 - I certainly used illegal wire taps 489 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.560 and bugged people's homes. 490 00:28:19.560 --> 00:28:21.080 I bugged their phones. 491 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.080 - [Reporter] Using electronic surveillance, 492 00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:26.720 SIU cops would find out when drug pushers 493 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.480 were about to make a big deal. 494 00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:32.280 After a raid, the cops kept the most of the seized cash 495 00:28:32.280 --> 00:28:34.280 and drugs for themselves. 496 00:28:34.280 --> 00:28:36.680 [soft music] 497 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.760 - Once I went along with this program, 498 00:28:40.760 --> 00:28:41.960 everybody's hugging me. 499 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:44.960 We all got together where the money was shared 500 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:46.000 then given to each. 501 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:50.600 Some people got a lot more than others. 502 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.920 It was a sense of all of a sudden, a belonging, 503 00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.880 that we were all part of the same Robin Hood group. 504 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.040 [man laughing] 505 00:29:03.040 --> 00:29:07.560 This whole business of a shared kind of doing something 506 00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:10.120 you shouldn't be doing, everyone doing it together. 507 00:29:10.120 --> 00:29:11.960 [background chatter] 508 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.760 95% of the people in that unit were corrupt, 509 00:29:22.760 --> 00:29:24.840 including all the bosses. 510 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.280 And after awhile I just lost myself. 511 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:31.880 I was not a policeman anymore. 512 00:29:35.800 --> 00:29:40.800 - Approximately 57 pounds of contraband heroin 513 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:46.080 seized by the police department in 1962 514 00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:47.560 has been stolen. 515 00:29:47.560 --> 00:29:50.640 [suspenseful music] 516 00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:54.640 - [Narrator] The original seizure in 1962 517 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.840 known as the French Connection case, 518 00:29:56.840 --> 00:29:59.440 one of America's biggest narcotic seizures. 519 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.440 - All the drugs was stolen from the property clerk 520 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:05.880 and returned to the street. 521 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.760 Nothing like this ever been done before. 522 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.760 That created an incredible investigation 523 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:18.440 that got into a unit that I worked at. 524 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.040 - The creation of Mr. Jerry's office 525 00:30:22.040 --> 00:30:24.360 provides additional resources to deal 526 00:30:24.360 --> 00:30:27.120 with this problem of corruption. 527 00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:29.680 - No police office and no prosecutor, 528 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.320 no judge, no one involved in criminal justice 529 00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:34.560 who becomes a defendant is going to be given 530 00:30:34.560 --> 00:30:35.840 a special privilege. 531 00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:39.960 - The case was bought over to me. 532 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.200 We had a lot of people on it. 533 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.960 Everybody was trying to find out how it happened, 534 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.760 who did it and why. 535 00:30:46.760 --> 00:30:48.080 - There were two detectives in the SIU 536 00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:49.800 that apparently were involved in that, 537 00:30:49.800 --> 00:30:52.160 but there were 70 people in the unit. 538 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.960 - Well, we're not just talking about the French Connection- 539 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.120 - A lot of other drugs too, I agree. 540 00:30:57.120 --> 00:30:59.040 Listen, all the rationalizations I've been able to make 541 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:01.440 over the years for the things that I did myself 542 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.760 and the other things that the SIU did in general 543 00:31:03.760 --> 00:31:06.240 are kind of wiped away by that particular incident. 544 00:31:08.560 --> 00:31:09.560 It was his corrupt world. 545 00:31:09.560 --> 00:31:12.960 The whole atmosphere was corrupt. 546 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.280 - They were doing the same thing 547 00:31:16.280 --> 00:31:18.600 that we were putting people in jail for. 548 00:31:18.600 --> 00:31:21.840 It was stealing money, stealing drugs, selling drugs. 549 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.320 How bad can you go? 550 00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:27.960 - [Reporter] Six weeks ago in Harlem 551 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.880 Black Panthers seized large quantities of heroin 552 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.400 from drug peddlers and poured it into the street. 553 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.400 They refuse to turn it over to police 554 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.440 because they insisted police would only re- sell it 555 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:40.480 to the pushers. 556 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.520 - I would have no sympathy for someone like me. 557 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.560 I would be very harsh towards someone 558 00:31:52.560 --> 00:31:53.680 who behaved like I did. 559 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.120 - My father prioritized work over his family. 560 00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:11.280 Being a detective, being a New York City police officer 561 00:32:11.280 --> 00:32:13.000 was his life, he loved it. 562 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.480 But he wasn't home that often. 563 00:32:18.760 --> 00:32:19.840 And there were times he'd show up 564 00:32:19.840 --> 00:32:21.280 with some of his informants 565 00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:24.760 and the majority of his informants were heroin addicts. 566 00:32:24.760 --> 00:32:26.840 He'd bring them to the house. 567 00:32:26.840 --> 00:32:29.280 Those are little things that would stick in my head. 568 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.040 Just these unusual things that were happening 569 00:32:32.040 --> 00:32:34.000 around my house that weren't normal 570 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.680 day-to-day events for most homes. 571 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:39.640 He loved being out, he loved being about. 572 00:32:41.840 --> 00:32:42.800 He wasn't loyal to my mother. 573 00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:44.800 He wasn't a good husband from that standpoint. 574 00:32:47.360 --> 00:32:49.920 His lifestyle was going the wrong direction. 575 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.160 He realized it. 576 00:32:54.600 --> 00:32:57.000 [soft music] 577 00:33:00.040 --> 00:33:01.960 - I was having a barbecue at my house. 578 00:33:04.280 --> 00:33:05.480 And all my friends were there, 579 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.000 all the cops that I worked with came to the house. 580 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:13.880 And my father came. 581 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.200 "Look, I met all these guys, your friends, 582 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:19.520 these cops, they don't look like cops, 583 00:33:19.520 --> 00:33:21.760 they don't act like cops, they don't sound like cops." 584 00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:23.080 He said, "I grew up with gangsters. 585 00:33:23.080 --> 00:33:24.600 They all sound like gangsters. 586 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.320 The way they talk, their view of the world." 587 00:33:30.320 --> 00:33:31.760 They were all wearing diamond rings. 588 00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:33.240 They were all wearing gold bracelets. 589 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:34.840 They were all wearing necklaces. 590 00:33:34.840 --> 00:33:36.200 [indistinct chatter] 591 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.640 My brother was a heroin addict. 592 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.400 My father said, "It's people like you and your friends, 593 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:42.960 are responsible for that." 594 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.440 And I took a good, long close look at myself. 595 00:33:51.760 --> 00:33:55.960 I was dressing differently, I was behaving differently, 596 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:57.680 speaking differently. 597 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.120 I said, "This is not me, I don't want to be this. 598 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.840 I'm a policeman, not a gangster." 599 00:34:17.640 --> 00:34:20.240 - I think it's about time that something's done to prove 600 00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:23.360 that. uh, New York City's police really aren't the finest. 601 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.520 - All the things that they've been doing, 602 00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:27.560 taking the money, the bribes and everything else, 603 00:34:27.560 --> 00:34:29.680 - That should be brought out in the open 604 00:34:29.680 --> 00:34:33.320 and let's hope that this corruption ceases immediately. 605 00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:42.560 - The easy people to point the finger at are the policemen, 606 00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:43.720 that's too easy. 607 00:34:43.720 --> 00:34:47.720 You cannot expose and end police corruption 608 00:34:47.720 --> 00:34:50.400 unless you go after the real cause of corruption. 609 00:34:52.200 --> 00:34:55.000 - [Reporter] The courtroom also has its rotten apples. 610 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.840 Prosecutors, lawyers, even judges and jurors. 611 00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:02.600 - Our investigation has certainly shown 612 00:35:02.600 --> 00:35:03.760 that we are not dealing 613 00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.880 with a few rotten apples by any means. 614 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.440 It's not the rotten apples it's the barrel. 615 00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:13.160 - We were investigating cops, 616 00:35:13.160 --> 00:35:16.880 we were investigating judges, we're investigating lawyers. 617 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.480 It was a watershed of corruption in New York City. 618 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.480 The corruption went through the entire system 619 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.280 and had to go through the entire system to be effective. 620 00:35:26.600 --> 00:35:29.440 [dramatic music] 621 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.240 - Someone got in touch with me at one point 622 00:35:33.240 --> 00:35:36.200 and asked me if I would get involved in an investigation 623 00:35:37.120 --> 00:35:39.880 investigating the criminal justice system in New York, 624 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.320 not the police. 625 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.000 [tape clicking] 626 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:46.640 Who is this guy? 627 00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:47.480 Where does he come from? 628 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:48.560 What does he want from me? 629 00:35:49.560 --> 00:35:51.120 And I couldn't explain why I was doing it, 630 00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:52.720 why I was talking to him, 631 00:35:52.720 --> 00:35:55.200 but the whole thing sounds scary. 632 00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.480 - I had some information about Bob Leuci 633 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.280 because there were allegations of corruption 634 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.760 against any number of police officers in the SIU. 635 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.840 [ominous music] 636 00:36:07.640 --> 00:36:09.120 I met with him in my office. 637 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:12.480 We talked for a couple of hours in the office. 638 00:36:14.160 --> 00:36:16.560 He did indeed start by acknowledging 639 00:36:16.560 --> 00:36:19.200 three different cases that he had been involved in 640 00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:21.280 where he had been involved in corruption. 641 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.600 - [Bob] I think I may have found an important friend. 642 00:36:27.080 --> 00:36:29.600 I wanted to tell him everything. 643 00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:33.960 I want to get it out from me, I want to get it all out. 644 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.240 All the things that I had been doing 645 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:39.080 and all of the things that had me really uptight 646 00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:40.560 over the last several years. 647 00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:44.360 And I thought by confession that it would be over 648 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:45.800 and I would start new again. 649 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.280 - As it turned out we ended up talking 650 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.360 that first day into the night 651 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.120 until five o'clock in the morning and it broke off, 652 00:36:58.120 --> 00:36:58.960 we got some sleep. 653 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.160 We came back, we did it again. 654 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:02.280 We did that for four days and four nights. 655 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:03.760 [clock ticking] 656 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.840 We are still talking about motivation and why, 657 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.680 and fear and anxiety, guilt, 658 00:37:11.680 --> 00:37:13.120 the desire to be on the right side 659 00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:15.480 after having been on the wrong side for so long. 660 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.800 - I have a feeling that they maybe had something on him 661 00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:28.040 and that he chose to cooperate rather than be arrested 662 00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:30.560 and being charged with something. 663 00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:31.880 - I know what he was. 664 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.400 He was liar that got caught, a thief that got caught 665 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.880 and now he's playing the game. 666 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.920 - No one ever caught me doing anything wrong. 667 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:40.800 And I had never saw any good point 668 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.440 of my telling them all the things I'd done. 669 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.600 I told them I did a couple of minor things 670 00:37:45.600 --> 00:37:48.280 so they would believe what I had to say. 671 00:37:49.240 --> 00:37:51.400 Whereas I had done a lot of things. 672 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.080 [suspenseful music] 673 00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:57.320 - Leuci had seen what was coming 674 00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:01.160 and what he did was he got out in front of the curve, 675 00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:02.000 as they say. 676 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.760 He began to cooperate before the investigators got to him. 677 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.440 [upbeat music] 678 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.160 - [Bob] I would show them where the corruption was 679 00:38:21.160 --> 00:38:23.160 that the police were the least involved. 680 00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:26.920 I never had a lawyer working in narcotics 681 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.520 that didn't offer me a bribe in one form or another. 682 00:38:30.680 --> 00:38:33.360 I was shown that the entire court system was corrupt. 683 00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:36.680 - I think my father truly believed 684 00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:38.360 he was the smartest guy in the room, 685 00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.400 like he could get involved in a way where he could dictate 686 00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.680 how an investigation was going to go. 687 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.320 - We put word out on the street 688 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.920 that I had access to grand jury testimony. 689 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.160 I don't know if you know what that means. 690 00:39:03.160 --> 00:39:05.120 It's private testimony 691 00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:08.200 that's having to do with investigations. 692 00:39:08.200 --> 00:39:10.880 If we set that out, people would get in touch with me. 693 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.440 [phone ringing] 694 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.640 A private detective got in touch with me 695 00:39:19.640 --> 00:39:22.960 [muffled conversation] 696 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.600 and he said, "Listen, I have a client 697 00:39:26.640 --> 00:39:29.280 who's a very big lawyer, big time lawyer 698 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.320 who would pay a lot of money to find out 699 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.280 what kind of testimony's going on in the grand jury 700 00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.440 having to do with him." 701 00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:38.960 I said, "I can get that information." 702 00:39:42.560 --> 00:39:45.000 - Eddie Rosner was a very successful lawyer 703 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.600 in New York City. 704 00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:48.360 He handled a lot of drug cases 705 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.640 and he was suspected of having fabricated evidence. 706 00:39:55.120 --> 00:39:56.160 They wanted to get him 707 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:58.400 they were prepared to do anything to get him. 708 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.760 [dramatic music] 709 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.200 So they set them up through Robert Leuci 710 00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:09.080 to commit an additional crime. 711 00:40:10.680 --> 00:40:11.480 [tape scratching] 712 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.000 - Wearing a wire, we met. 713 00:40:18.120 --> 00:40:20.200 We came with the New York City police detective 714 00:40:20.200 --> 00:40:21.400 who was a friend of his. 715 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.280 And he asked me if I could get access 716 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.040 to this grand jury testimony 717 00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:29.720 having to deal with one of his clients. 718 00:40:29.720 --> 00:40:31.320 And I'll pay you a lot of money. 719 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.040 - They had him on tape 720 00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:38.880 and they were determined to put him away 721 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:40.280 and get him disbarred. 722 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.040 [dramatic music] 723 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.560 - [Reporter] Edmund A Rosner was convicted yesterday 724 00:40:48.560 --> 00:40:50.600 for bribing a federal official. 725 00:40:50.600 --> 00:40:53.000 - [Reporter] Mr. Rosner wanted names of witnesses 726 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.960 that would be killed instead of testifying. 727 00:40:57.720 --> 00:41:01.200 - [Reporter] Two NYPD detectives were also indicted 728 00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:02.120 in the case. 729 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.200 - The double life that he was leading, 730 00:41:12.200 --> 00:41:13.840 I think he actually enjoyed it. 731 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.720 Acting as an SIU agent, arresting people, 732 00:41:20.720 --> 00:41:23.560 at the same time going after bad cops, 733 00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:25.160 going after bad attorneys. 734 00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:31.320 Once he took this role, he liked it. 735 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.840 [soft music] 736 00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:55.800 - Some days I would wear a wire and some days I wouldn't. 737 00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.080 Some days I have a sense from the last meeting 738 00:41:59.080 --> 00:42:00.880 that they're gonna search me, you know? 739 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.400 So I'm not going to wear a wire. 740 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.320 Or other times I'm not worried about it. 741 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.400 I'm gonna wear a wire. 742 00:42:09.560 --> 00:42:13.160 - Leuci was providing excellent, undercover work, 743 00:42:13.160 --> 00:42:15.400 a whole wealth of important information 744 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.440 so he was a very valuable cooperator. 745 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.720 - He'd be invited to stealing money 746 00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:22.760 because he was known as a corrupt cop 747 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.320 and they trusted him. 748 00:42:24.600 --> 00:42:25.920 [beeping] [static] 749 00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:28.200 - [Bob] My car's over here. 750 00:42:28.200 --> 00:42:30.720 - [Man] Bobby, I'll call your house in about an hour or two. 751 00:42:30.720 --> 00:42:33.400 - [Bob] I'm off until Sunday night, though, you know? 752 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.160 - [Man] All right. 753 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:37.760 [static] - He was a very, very good undercover, 754 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.280 because he could bullshit his way out of a paper bag. 755 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.600 [laughing] 756 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.080 - What he said was, 757 00:42:49.080 --> 00:42:51.600 "If I fall on any corrupt cops in the way, 758 00:42:51.600 --> 00:42:52.760 I'll get them for you too, 759 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.480 but I will not work against my partners." 760 00:42:58.680 --> 00:43:01.120 [dramatic music] 761 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.040 - The word started to go out that Bob Leuci 762 00:43:06.040 --> 00:43:08.000 was wearing a wire. 763 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.880 - As rumored for some months, a prime government witness 764 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.680 is from the ranks of the police department 765 00:43:12.680 --> 00:43:14.440 and he apparently is ready to talk. 766 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.600 - Leuci had entrapped a bail bondsman and a detective 767 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.920 and they realized that he had been turned as cops say, 768 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:29.920 that he was working for the prosecutors 769 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.520 and they were going to kill him. 770 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.320 - They grabbed me, they put a gun on me, 771 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.560 they said they were gonna take me someplace, search me, 772 00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:42.480 and if they found a wire, they were gonna kill me. 773 00:43:43.600 --> 00:43:45.600 [music continues] 774 00:43:48.720 --> 00:43:49.720 I had a wire on. 775 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.560 And when I sat the transmitter would sometimes turn 776 00:43:58.560 --> 00:44:01.760 in its casing and the backside of it was metal. 777 00:44:02.680 --> 00:44:04.480 And had burnt into my skin. 778 00:44:06.520 --> 00:44:08.200 And I was dying to get my hands on his thing. 779 00:44:08.200 --> 00:44:10.000 And I couldn't shut it off because they taped it 780 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.960 in such a way that I couldn't click it on or off. 781 00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:15.480 And the guy who was driving goes, 782 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.360 "What the hell smells in here? 783 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.280 Did you step in dog shit? It's terrible." 784 00:44:21.560 --> 00:44:23.040 It had burned through my skin. 785 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.120 I really thought I'm paying for what I'm done. 786 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.840 We were in the middle of a Little Italy. 787 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.400 And I saw this guy across the street who I had investigated. 788 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.920 His name was Alphonse Indelicato, Sonny Red. 789 00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:56.840 He was a big time mafia guy. 790 00:44:58.520 --> 00:44:59.920 He saw what was going on. 791 00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:04.960 I said, "Look, go ask him if you could trust me." 792 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.400 And they looked at his mafia guy who was a major bad guy. 793 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.480 [suspenseful music] 794 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.560 [train horn blaring] 795 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.160 He tells them, "Look, if you think he's a rat, kill him, 796 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:22.480 but you better be right, because he's a friend of mine 797 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:23.840 and I like him. 798 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.520 So if you're wrong, I'll come after your ass." 799 00:45:26.520 --> 00:45:27.680 And they were petrified of this, 800 00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:29.520 everyone was afraid of this guy. 801 00:45:29.520 --> 00:45:30.640 So they came back and they said, 802 00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:32.800 "Well, if he likes you, you gotta be okay." 803 00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:39.080 After that, I became very frightened. 804 00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:44.960 - He didn't know that he was doing the right thing. 805 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.560 He hoped he was doing the right thing 806 00:45:47.560 --> 00:45:50.640 and he hoped he would be able to protect his partners. 807 00:45:56.080 --> 00:45:57.360 - They couldn't be closer. 808 00:45:58.720 --> 00:46:00.800 Would you turn on your closest friends? 809 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.640 Let me ask you, would you? 810 00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:04.480 Years of friendship and trust 811 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.960 and going to each other's barbecues 812 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:11.160 and religious, everything, they shared all of that. 813 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.600 - My world was the police world. 814 00:46:19.240 --> 00:46:21.840 And I work with all these guys in different situations 815 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.040 and they all trusted me and took care of me. 816 00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:31.960 It's only when someone who was part of it all 817 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.880 turns on you, that's when you get hurt 818 00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.200 and that's when you get hurt badly. 819 00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:38.600 [soft music] 820 00:46:43.560 --> 00:46:47.240 [people chattering] [cameras clicking] 821 00:46:47.240 --> 00:46:49.040 - I'm confident that my office can do anything 822 00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:51.080 but that's probably one of my weaknesses. 823 00:46:51.080 --> 00:46:52.240 [chuckling] 824 00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:57.440 - I participated in the SIU investigation being led 825 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.040 by Rudy Giuliani who was at that time 826 00:47:00.040 --> 00:47:01.440 head of the Corruption Unit. 827 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.600 Rudy and I spent an evening with Bob Leuci 828 00:47:11.600 --> 00:47:19.000 and my task at that time was to debrief Bob Leuci. 829 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.840 [dramatic music] 830 00:47:22.200 --> 00:47:25.520 We spent a lot of time going over the various teams 831 00:47:25.520 --> 00:47:28.280 that Leuci work with, 832 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.680 which took weeks and weeks and weeks. 833 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.560 - [Bob] I'm not gonna implicate any of my friends. 834 00:47:38.080 --> 00:47:39.960 Do you want me to destroy myself? 835 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:40.800 You want me to go and say 836 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:41.680 I did all of these kinds of things. 837 00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:42.560 I'll never do it. 838 00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:45.920 Why should I make cases against my friends 839 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.360 when I can make cases against other people 840 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:48.840 and accomplish the same thing? 841 00:47:51.080 --> 00:47:53.280 And so two guys go and both fuck yourselves. 842 00:47:55.720 --> 00:47:58.160 - Giuliani, who later was mayor of New York 843 00:47:58.160 --> 00:47:59.320 and ran for president 844 00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:03.440 became convinced that Leuci was covering up something. 845 00:48:07.640 --> 00:48:09.280 - The vast majority he's been a good, 846 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.600 honest, law abiding, family loving, decent man 847 00:48:13.080 --> 00:48:15.080 who'd do criminal things once in awhile. 848 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.640 - They began to pressure Leuci who slowly went to pieces. 849 00:48:23.720 --> 00:48:24.600 - [Detective] What do you see reflected 850 00:48:24.600 --> 00:48:26.720 in the mirror in the morning? 851 00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:28.080 What are your children going to see in you 852 00:48:28.080 --> 00:48:29.080 in three or four years from now 853 00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:31.680 when they're old enough to decide what you are? 854 00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:32.920 What does your wife see? 855 00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:36.840 - Some of the people that he dealt with 856 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:38.960 were smart enough to see 857 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.400 that Bob was basically an insecure person 858 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.720 with an ego, and they played to that. 859 00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:53.640 - And finally, Leuci cracked. 860 00:48:55.040 --> 00:48:56.920 And with that, he began to talk. 861 00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:02.120 [soft music] 862 00:49:14.040 --> 00:49:16.720 - [Reporter] A jury heard detective Robert Leuci in person 863 00:49:16.720 --> 00:49:17.600 and on tape yesterday. 864 00:49:17.600 --> 00:49:20.000 - [Reporter] Tape recorded conversations 865 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.320 between detective Leuci and three men. 866 00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:24.800 - [Giuliani] I can comment only to the extent 867 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.080 that there are public charges today. 868 00:49:27.080 --> 00:49:32.000 - Giuliani wanted to be a known prosecutor, which he was. 869 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:33.680 I mean, he put everybody in jail. 870 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.240 [music continues] 871 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.120 - Several were indicted, several went to jail, 872 00:49:46.120 --> 00:49:48.360 others If they didn't get indicted or go to jail, 873 00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.560 they were fired from the police department. 874 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.440 - He got himself out of the jackpot 875 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.600 and put everybody else in it. 876 00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:01.400 He sold his soul to save his ass. 877 00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:31.000 - [Man] A private investigator overheard a conversation 878 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.000 between three or four people at the casino in Las Vegas. 879 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.240 They discuss the killing of Bob Leuci 880 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.160 and how it was to be done. 881 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:47.840 [explosion] 882 00:50:55.160 --> 00:50:58.720 I became really, really paranoid at that point though. 883 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.560 - [Interviewer] Why did some cops want to kill him? 884 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:06.960 - Hopefully destroy the cases against them 885 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.240 if he couldn't testify. 886 00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:11.280 Revenge for ruining their lives. 887 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.600 And he betrayed them. 888 00:51:16.560 --> 00:51:19.360 - He had to go into the Witness Protection Program. 889 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.560 He had to be hidden from the world 890 00:51:21.560 --> 00:51:23.320 [slow music] 891 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.120 His family, too, had to move out. 892 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.600 - My son, who's was a young, young little kid at the time, 893 00:51:32.600 --> 00:51:34.080 he said that there had been a car 894 00:51:34.080 --> 00:51:35.960 driving around the house where we lived. 895 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.320 You know, had gone around the block a few times 896 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:38.760 and it made him nervous. 897 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:44.880 - I was young, anywhere from four, six years old. 898 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.320 So, but having those marshals in the house, 899 00:51:49.080 --> 00:51:51.320 there's something going on behind the scenes 900 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:52.520 that I'm not being made aware of. 901 00:51:52.520 --> 00:51:55.080 No one's explaining to me what's happening. 902 00:51:55.080 --> 00:51:57.200 But there are these men in our house. 903 00:51:58.120 --> 00:51:59.800 Their concern was that if they didn't go after my father, 904 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.120 they'd go after his family. 905 00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:08.280 - My wife and the children were moved 906 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:09.640 in the Catskill Mountains 907 00:52:09.640 --> 00:52:12.640 in a little hunting lodge that I had. 908 00:52:12.640 --> 00:52:15.200 [somber music] 909 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.000 I lived out in Governors Island, 910 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.440 which is a military base off Manhattan. 911 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:32.480 I was put under protection for four years 912 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.600 and I had 18 bodyguards who were all New York cops. 913 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.120 - Once my husband decided to do it, he gave me a way out. 914 00:52:44.120 --> 00:52:48.800 He said, "Either you're going to go through it with me 915 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.160 or you could get out." 916 00:52:50.160 --> 00:52:52.800 - Did you ever think about getting out? 917 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.200 - No, I don't think there was any question at any time. 918 00:52:58.680 --> 00:53:01.440 - She's trying to make our lives as normal as possible. 919 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:05.160 She was the one who had the brunt of everything 920 00:53:05.160 --> 00:53:08.160 that was going on at home while he was away, 921 00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:10.280 when he was out testifying, 922 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:11.840 he was with marshals, he was secluded, 923 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:12.880 he was in different areas. 924 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.520 She was home with kids 925 00:53:15.520 --> 00:53:17.000 hoping that the house was protected, 926 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.680 hoping the marshals do their jobs and that's difficult. 927 00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:21.880 Sorry. 928 00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.760 - I want my marriage to work out. 929 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:27.600 - [Interviewer] Is that in jeopardy 930 00:53:27.600 --> 00:53:28.520 because what your husband did? 931 00:53:28.520 --> 00:53:29.480 - Yes, I think so. 932 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:31.960 [drone sounds] 933 00:53:33.560 --> 00:53:36.560 [people chattering] 934 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.800 - [Reporter] The question is whether the state could 935 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.360 or should indict Leuci, 936 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.200 now a federal witness who is cooperating. 937 00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.280 - Leuci was portraying himself as having joined 938 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.640 with Scoppetta and the others to overcome corruption. 939 00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.320 But 940 00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:02.440 for all that claim of doing good and cleaning up, 941 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.080 there was an underlying filth, if you would, 942 00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:09.400 a corruption that Leuci hid. 943 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.400 [suspenseful music] 944 00:54:13.600 --> 00:54:16.720 - When you're dealing with an informant like Bob Leuci, 945 00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:19.600 there's a tendency to fall in love with, 946 00:54:19.600 --> 00:54:23.040 to become so favorable to the cooperator, 947 00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:23.960 you're happy, you're pleased with 948 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:25.960 what the cooperators telling you 949 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.760 that you close your eyes to what should be obvious. 950 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.680 - He was steadfast that he'd committed four or five acts. 951 00:54:36.600 --> 00:54:39.720 And the truth of the matter is he committed hundreds of acts 952 00:54:40.720 --> 00:54:42.840 and he made an awful lot of money. 953 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.840 - Bob Leuci committed probably more crimes 954 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:48.400 than almost any other police officer 955 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:49.840 in the city of New York. 956 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.080 [pulsating music] 957 00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:57.920 - I represented several of the 958 00:54:57.920 --> 00:54:59.840 Special Investigator Unit detectives 959 00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:01.600 who had been charged. 960 00:55:01.600 --> 00:55:03.040 By that time, 961 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.520 there was a lot known about Leuci 962 00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:09.640 in the sense of what he had done. 963 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.000 - [Reporter] Former narcotics detective Robert Leuci 964 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.640 admitted yesterday that he had committed 965 00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:21.200 possibly hundreds of criminal acts 966 00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:24.960 in which he previously had denied taking part of. 967 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:26.320 - [Reporter] Shaking down drug dealers 968 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.200 for as much as $40,000 and splitting the take. 969 00:55:29.200 --> 00:55:31.640 Bribes of as much as $50,000 970 00:55:31.640 --> 00:55:34.200 reportedly were paid by heroin dealers... 971 00:55:34.200 --> 00:55:35.560 [distorted vocals] 972 00:55:35.560 --> 00:55:38.600 - We had a ton of bad acts, 973 00:55:38.600 --> 00:55:43.120 not only stealing and the corruption, but the lying. 974 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.320 "I lied before to these prosecutors and oh yeah, I did. 975 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:49.360 I lied in the grand jury 976 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:51.920 but now I'm gonna tell the truth." 977 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:52.880 Doesn't make any sense. 978 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.080 He looked like a fool to be honest with you. 979 00:55:56.520 --> 00:55:59.080 - Never got prosecuted, no. 980 00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:00.400 I was lucky to have friends. 981 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:04.840 I had some really amazing people on my side. 982 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:05.680 - Bob Leuci 983 00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:10.520 turned around on the essential problem, 984 00:56:10.520 --> 00:56:13.160 the corruption that existed in narcotics enforcement 985 00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:14.880 without having been caught, 986 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.600 without having been pushed up against the wall 987 00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:18.760 and forced to turn around. 988 00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:20.840 He did it because something was happening inside of him 989 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.560 that bothered him about it, and that's a great credit. 990 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:27.960 - Giuliani said, "You can't jail this man, 991 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.120 not after what he has given the public 992 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.400 and what he's been through." 993 00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:47.000 - I never ever dreamt it would ever turn 994 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.440 on the police the way it did. 995 00:56:49.640 --> 00:56:52.720 And I guess they blame me for initiating it all. 996 00:56:53.680 --> 00:56:54.680 Starting it all. 997 00:56:56.600 --> 00:56:57.720 - [Carl] I trusted him- 998 00:56:57.720 --> 00:57:01.320 - [Reporter] Carl Aguilas today has a secret identity. 999 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.160 He was one of the cops trapped by Leuci. 1000 00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:05.680 - He invited me over to his house one day 1001 00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:08.040 and the kitchen would be wired. 1002 00:57:08.040 --> 00:57:09.720 I'd be holding his baby on my lap. 1003 00:57:10.720 --> 00:57:12.440 And there was a real friend, 1004 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.400 supposedly a real friendly type buddy, buddy situation. 1005 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.280 However, I was being recorded. 1006 00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.640 We were like brothers, I trusted him. 1007 00:57:21.600 --> 00:57:23.560 [pounding] 1008 00:57:23.560 --> 00:57:24.960 - [Bob] I'll never hurt Mandato, 1009 00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.640 I'll never hurt Wolff, I'll never hurt Cody. 1010 00:57:27.640 --> 00:57:29.240 I'm not gonna do it, those are my partners. 1011 00:57:29.240 --> 00:57:30.520 I'm not gonna do it. 1012 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:34.240 [pulsating music] 1013 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.320 - Cody was supposed to testify. 1014 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.080 [ominous music] 1015 00:57:43.040 --> 00:57:44.920 The night before he testified 1016 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:49.200 he was to be babysat by two agents. 1017 00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:52.600 I asked him to stay with him through the night, they didn't. 1018 00:57:52.600 --> 00:57:54.080 The next day Cody went out, 1019 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.960 sat down at Prospect Park and blew his head off with pistol. 1020 00:58:00.200 --> 00:58:02.960 [sirens wailing] 1021 00:58:08.680 --> 00:58:12.280 Bob heard that and he took out a bottle of Valium five 1022 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.240 and swallowed it and ran out the office, 1023 00:58:15.240 --> 00:58:16.760 disappeared for a few days. 1024 00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:22.800 [somber music] 1025 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.200 - [Bob] David Cody, he was one of a kind. 1026 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:36.240 Everything he did centered around 1027 00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:38.600 the New York City Police Department. 1028 00:58:38.600 --> 00:58:41.320 Retirement parties, Christmas parties, 1029 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.280 during the summer watching the Yankees. 1030 00:58:46.520 --> 00:58:47.680 I spoke to him. 1031 00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:49.840 That the only thing to do was to come in 1032 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.040 and tell the whole story 1033 00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.120 and talk about the things not only he did, 1034 00:58:55.120 --> 00:58:56.920 but things that we all did together. 1035 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.040 I thought that was the only sane way out 1036 00:59:01.040 --> 00:59:02.080 for us at that point. 1037 00:59:06.520 --> 00:59:07.840 But it was just too much for Dave to handle, 1038 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:08.680 that's for sure. 1039 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.880 [somber music] 1040 00:59:25.040 --> 00:59:28.120 - He could move past a lot of things in his life. 1041 00:59:29.080 --> 00:59:30.840 He could never move past that. 1042 00:59:34.520 --> 00:59:35.680 It was so hard for him. 1043 00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:47.160 - [Bob] There are certain things 1044 00:59:47.160 --> 00:59:48.560 you can't say I'm sorry for. 1045 00:59:49.680 --> 00:59:52.440 You're way, way past the I'm sorry part. 1046 00:59:58.680 --> 01:00:01.040 [birds cawing] 1047 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.440 [newsreel music] 1048 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.760 - A month ago Bob Leuci retired after serving 20 years 1049 01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:14.680 on the New York City Police Force 1050 01:00:14.680 --> 01:00:16.120 and he's with us here this morning. 1051 01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:18.080 One thing that you got out of all this. 1052 01:00:19.520 --> 01:00:21.680 - Well, one of the major thing that I got out of it 1053 01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:24.000 was an opportunity to change my life 1054 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.160 you know, and to live a new life. 1055 01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:28.400 - Now, a book has been written about the special agony 1056 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.760 of his life as a cop and as a citizen, 1057 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.880 it is called "Prince of the City." 1058 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:34.680 It was written by Robert Daley, 1059 01:00:34.680 --> 01:00:37.440 former deputy police commissioner here in New York City. 1060 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.840 - I didn't know about detective Leuci 1061 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:41.960 and I didn't want to meet him. 1062 01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:43.960 To me, he was just a corrupt cop. 1063 01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.400 I had no use for corrupt cops. 1064 01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.480 Then he called me up sometime later 1065 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.560 and begged me to do his life story, to listen to him. 1066 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:56.640 Leuci practically lived at our house. 1067 01:00:56.640 --> 01:00:58.000 He came every morning. 1068 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.640 I wanted the title to be the cop who knew too much 1069 01:01:01.640 --> 01:01:03.240 and I got shot down. 1070 01:01:03.240 --> 01:01:06.240 The movie people said, "No, no, Prince of the City." 1071 01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:12.880 - [Reporter] Corruption within the NYPD 1072 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:14.120 will become the subject 1073 01:01:14.120 --> 01:01:16.800 of a major Hollywood movie next year. [actors screeching] 1074 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:18.360 Orion Pictures has just purchased 1075 01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:22.200 "Prince of the City" by Robert Daley. 1076 01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:25.600 - Nobody cares about me, but my partner. Fuck you! 1077 01:01:27.040 --> 01:01:29.320 - When I was 29 years old, I played Bob Leuci 1078 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.880 and consequently I became a good friend 1079 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.280 of Bob's over the years. 1080 01:01:36.520 --> 01:01:39.120 - At different times, he captured me 100% 1081 01:01:39.120 --> 01:01:41.880 and other times I think it was Treat. [Treat laughs] 1082 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.440 And he's an actor 1083 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.520 and, uh, he's a wonderful performer. 1084 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:50.800 [soft music] 1085 01:01:52.040 --> 01:01:54.440 - There are no heroes. There are no villains. 1086 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.280 Everybody was trying to do what they thought was best. 1087 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:01.000 And that kind of complexity is endlessly interesting to me. 1088 01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.960 - Sidney said one of the reasons that he hired me 1089 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.600 was I didn't really care what people thought of me. 1090 01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:10.720 I wouldn't worry about being likable 1091 01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:15.720 because ultimately the character becomes quite unlikeable. 1092 01:02:15.720 --> 01:02:18.880 [music intensifies] 1093 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:28.760 - He embraced the fame. 1094 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.160 Another part of his mind took over 1095 01:02:31.160 --> 01:02:33.720 and he thought of himself as a celebrity. 1096 01:02:33.720 --> 01:02:34.560 - I've been talking to someone recently 1097 01:02:34.560 --> 01:02:36.600 about writing a screenplay about 1098 01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:38.160 "The Return of Superfly" for example. 1099 01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:40.200 And it was a thought- 1100 01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:42.000 - Bob really has changed. 1101 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:45.960 I shouldn't say for the worse, 1102 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.120 but he isn't the man I married, not by any means. 1103 01:02:53.120 --> 01:02:56.080 - He didn't feel like his wife fit into the crowd 1104 01:02:56.080 --> 01:02:58.280 that he was now a part of. 1105 01:02:58.280 --> 01:02:59.240 You know... 1106 01:02:59.240 --> 01:03:02.520 dinner parties where Sean Connery was there 1107 01:03:02.520 --> 01:03:07.440 or going out with Rudy Giuliani and his girlfriend. 1108 01:03:09.680 --> 01:03:13.000 - The film and the book has put as much stress on the family 1109 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:17.560 and my marriage as anything else that I've experienced. 1110 01:03:22.120 --> 01:03:24.240 - You're asking me about that movie. 1111 01:03:24.240 --> 01:03:25.760 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 1112 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.080 - "Prince of the City." - Yeah. 1113 01:03:28.080 --> 01:03:28.920 - It sucked. 1114 01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.920 [soft music] 1115 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.600 - [Reporter] The movie has also provoked controversy. 1116 01:03:34.600 --> 01:03:36.880 Some law enforcement officials say the film 1117 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:39.080 falsely glamorizes Mr. Leuci 1118 01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:42.360 from the now defunct Special Investigations Unit. 1119 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:43.760 - Makes me want to throw up 1120 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.040 when I see them idolize him and say he was the hero. 1121 01:03:49.240 --> 01:03:51.720 Don't hold this guy up as a living example 1122 01:03:51.720 --> 01:03:54.280 of what you should do if you get your ass in a jam, 1123 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:56.720 because that's not the right thing to do. 1124 01:03:56.720 --> 01:03:59.040 Don't get your ass in a jam. 1125 01:03:59.040 --> 01:04:00.840 Do it right to begin with. 1126 01:04:03.040 --> 01:04:06.200 - I don't see how anybody could stretch it 1127 01:04:06.200 --> 01:04:07.440 to make them a hero. 1128 01:04:08.680 --> 01:04:10.800 He was a weakling and a coward 1129 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:14.360 that thought to save himself above everybody else. 1130 01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.200 - You making any money on the movie? 1131 01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:19.840 - Movie, hopefully will make money. 1132 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:26.800 - He was a celebrity, but he was nothing but a crook. 1133 01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:27.640 - Absolutely. 1134 01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:31.320 - I think he enjoyed being a celebrity. 1135 01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.040 I think he liked being the center of attention. 1136 01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:35.560 And I think that's one of the things 1137 01:04:35.560 --> 01:04:36.880 that the hatred for Bob was, 1138 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.560 that somehow he became the star, 1139 01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:42.200 that he got famous as result of this, 1140 01:04:42.200 --> 01:04:44.600 that he made money off of this. 1141 01:04:46.520 --> 01:04:48.520 - He's not enjoying this. 1142 01:04:48.520 --> 01:04:49.960 He's not enjoying this fame. 1143 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:53.680 He's not enjoying this hero reputation 1144 01:04:53.680 --> 01:04:55.480 because he knows it's just not true. 1145 01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.560 - His career was ruined. 1146 01:04:59.560 --> 01:05:02.360 And his name will go down ever in history 1147 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.800 as being a police rat. 1148 01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:19.640 [Bob speaking indistinctly] 1149 01:05:19.640 --> 01:05:22.120 - [Kathy] Just the mail today. 1150 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:25.320 - I'll carry that. 1151 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.520 - I just want to see how full this is, okay? 1152 01:05:28.520 --> 01:05:29.560 - Yeah. 1153 01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:30.880 - No, I'm gonna take the other tank. 1154 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:31.760 This one's almost empty. 1155 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:33.000 - I hardly use it all. 1156 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:34.640 - [Kathy] Honey, it's almost empty. 1157 01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:36.200 It doesn't make any difference how much you used it. 1158 01:05:36.200 --> 01:05:37.720 - [Bob] I have the other thing, the nebulizer. 1159 01:05:37.720 --> 01:05:39.200 - [Kathy] Uh-huh. 1160 01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:40.320 - I'll just take that, that's enough. 1161 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.920 - Are you sure? - Yeah, yeah. 1162 01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:46.400 - He really thought he was going to be 1163 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.040 this great American hero. 1164 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.080 Instead, he became one of the most hated men 1165 01:05:52.080 --> 01:05:53.200 in the police department. 1166 01:05:53.200 --> 01:05:55.440 You talk to people in the police department now, 1167 01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:58.400 they know his name and they call him a rat. 1168 01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:01.840 I'm not sure that was a good trade off. 1169 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:08.560 [somber music] 1170 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.520 [birds chirping] 1171 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.360 He and his first wife divorced. 1172 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:38.120 So he moved up to Rhode Island. 1173 01:06:38.120 --> 01:06:40.520 [soft music] 1174 01:06:44.680 --> 01:06:47.200 - I can't walk too far, you know, it's crazy. 1175 01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.440 - He was star of all the dinner parties up here 1176 01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.440 because they had this celebrity in their midst. 1177 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:05.400 - You can't believe everything you read. 1178 01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:07.720 My last name is Leuci, L-E-U-C-I, look it up. 1179 01:07:07.720 --> 01:07:09.440 If you get a chance, Google me. 1180 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:12.880 You may not be a fan, but you'll see. 1181 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:14.040 [man laughing] 1182 01:07:14.040 --> 01:07:15.640 - Nice to meet you. - Nice meeting you, take care. 1183 01:07:15.640 --> 01:07:18.440 - You've gone from being hated in one part of the country 1184 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:19.720 to another part of the country 1185 01:07:19.720 --> 01:07:21.760 where everyone thinks this is great. 1186 01:07:23.680 --> 01:07:26.680 [seagulls chirping] 1187 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:33.240 [cars honking] [sirens wailing] 1188 01:07:33.240 --> 01:07:37.960 [heavy breathing] 1189 01:07:49.160 --> 01:07:51.760 [somber music] 1190 01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:55.880 - Well, a former New York detective 1191 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.600 who famously exposed corruption in the NYPD 1192 01:07:58.600 --> 01:08:00.840 in the 1970s has died. 1193 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.200 Robert Leuci put his life on the line to blow the whistle 1194 01:08:04.200 --> 01:08:06.320 on a narcotics unit that was accepting cash 1195 01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:08.120 and drugs from dealers. 1196 01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:11.440 His service was honored in the movie "Prince of the City." 1197 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:13.280 He emerged from Witness Protection... 1198 01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:19.720 - If you ask 100 people, 1199 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.040 how are you going to remember Bob in one word? 1200 01:08:23.400 --> 01:08:26.000 You're going to get 100 different words. 1201 01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:29.520 [somber music] 1202 01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:38.360 The people that loved him the most 1203 01:08:38.360 --> 01:08:40.960 were the ones who were not blind to his faults. 1204 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.400 And he had plenty like everyone. 1205 01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:56.800 - I can't imagine my father will ever be seen as the hero. 1206 01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:58.960 I mean, what he did was heroic. 1207 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.120 I think, he was directly responsible 1208 01:09:01.120 --> 01:09:02.760 for changing the culture 1209 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.360 of the New York City Police Department. 1210 01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:08.520 [soft music] 1211 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.560 - Did it make any real difference, Sylvia, 1212 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.320 after all the agony? 1213 01:09:12.320 --> 01:09:13.160 - You know what the top 1214 01:09:13.160 --> 01:09:14.600 US drug enforcement official told me? 1215 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:16.760 He said that his only regret was that Bob Leuci 1216 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:18.080 is no longer in law enforcement. 1217 01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:19.760 And that it's because of him 1218 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:22.840 that cops no longer routinely steal and deal drugs. 1219 01:09:24.440 --> 01:09:26.080 - [Reporter] As a result of the Leuci case, 1220 01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:28.840 the police department and the state in the last decade 1221 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:31.040 have adopted new tactics to discourage 1222 01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:33.520 and uproot corruption in New York City. 1223 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.200 - [Officer] That cancer that almost killed our department 1224 01:09:36.200 --> 01:09:38.960 some years ago will never ever happen again. 1225 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:42.040 [audience cheering] 1226 01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:45.120 - The criminal justice system cleaned itself up 1227 01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:47.840 but the publicity that came out of those cases 1228 01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.240 put the fear of God into a lot of people. 1229 01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:52.840 [audience applauding] 1230 01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:56.000 - I think the exposure had a dramatic effect 1231 01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.560 on public understanding of police corruption. 1232 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:02.760 - This man went a long way toward cleaning up 1233 01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:03.880 something that was very rotten 1234 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:05.440 in the New York City Police Department. 1235 01:10:05.440 --> 01:10:06.840 - [Interviewer] Thank you very much, Mr. Leuci, 1236 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.120 thank you for all the contributions 1237 01:10:08.120 --> 01:10:09.760 you've done to the police system. 1238 01:10:13.120 --> 01:10:15.920 - It did clean it up, but you know something? 1239 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:17.920 It's a cyclical thing. 1240 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:18.920 You think, oh, it's all cleaned up. 1241 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:21.360 Four more years later, it happens again. 1242 01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:22.440 And it happens again. 1243 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:26.120 [dramatic music] 1244 01:10:26.120 --> 01:10:28.400 - [Reporter] The corrupt cups were called good cups. 1245 01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:30.840 - 'Cause it was the blue wall of silence. 1246 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:33.520 Cops don't tell on cops. 1247 01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.400 - [Reporter] Right now, 10 out of 75 police precincts 1248 01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:39.200 are being investigated for corruption. 1249 01:10:39.200 --> 01:10:41.640 - [Woman] 11 murders committed by 1250 01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:44.480 and for their mob benefactors. 1251 01:10:44.480 --> 01:10:47.280 - We are here today, again, 1252 01:10:47.280 --> 01:10:49.360 to announce public corruption charges, 1253 01:10:49.360 --> 01:10:52.920 this time at some of the highest and most sensitive levels 1254 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:54.840 of the New York City Police Department. 1255 01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.800 [suspenseful music] 1256 01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:03.720 - I see cases just like the Robert Leuci case 1257 01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:04.960 every day today. 1258 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:10.800 I see them today when police kill innocent suspects 1259 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.240 and the police will cover for themselves 1260 01:11:13.240 --> 01:11:16.240 and prosecutors cover for the police. 1261 01:11:18.440 --> 01:11:21.040 It's important that we create a culture 1262 01:11:21.040 --> 01:11:23.480 whereby whistle blowers within the police department 1263 01:11:23.480 --> 01:11:25.400 are praised rather than condemned. 1264 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.720 - It's been a while since I got wired up. 1265 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.920 - [Interviewer] Leuci always used to joke about that. 1266 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:41.440 - Yeah, well, he would know. 1267 01:11:41.440 --> 01:11:44.800 - Putting on the wire again. - He would know. 1268 01:11:45.320 --> 01:11:48.200 I hope there's a hell and he's in it. 1269 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.720 [soft guitar music] 1270 01:11:58.360 --> 01:12:00.640 - [Bob] Someone once said that there are some teardrops 1271 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:01.640 that just never dry. 1272 01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:06.880 And I don't think that time heals all wounds. 1273 01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:07.960 I wish it did. 1274 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:13.200 ♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪ 1275 01:12:13.200 --> 01:12:16.240 ♪ Pick your stick and hang it on the wall ♪ 1276 01:12:16.240 --> 01:12:19.280 ♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪ 1277 01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:22.040 ♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪ 1278 01:12:22.040 --> 01:12:25.480 ♪ There a black eight, won't roll straight ♪ 1279 01:12:25.480 --> 01:12:28.360 ♪ Scratch every match and you're easy bait ♪ 1280 01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:30.960 ♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪ 1281 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.880 ♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪ 1282 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:39.880 ♪ Lucy Ann your man's been out rambling ♪ 1283 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:45.760 ♪ What will he bringing home to you ♪ 1284 01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:51.680 ♪ On the winds that sing of whiskey, wine and gambling ♪ 1285 01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:54.560 [soft music] 1286 01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.760 [somber piano music]