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Mary Greene: This is the
one great voice we have
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in a democracy,
the voice of our vote.
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Paul Weyrich: I don't want
everybody to vote.
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Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
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they never have been,
and they are not now.
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Ronald Reagan: This idea
that government is beholden
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to the people is still
the most unique idea
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in all the long history of man.
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Coretta Scott King: Make sure
that we get people in office
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who are going to be responsive
to the needs of the individuals
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that they represent.
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John Lewis: They are
changing the rules.
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That's not right,
that's not fair,
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and that is not just.
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(upbeat music playing)
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Reporter: The National Guard
has been called in
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to aid in the water crisis
in Flint, Michigan,
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a city with a water supply
contaminated with lead.
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Reporter 2: Thousands
of residents exposed
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to toxic levels of rust,
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iron, and lead want to know
who is to blame.
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Reporter 3: Volunteers from
across the state and country
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have trucked in water on
U‐Haul trucks
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because of the city's
contaminated drinking water.
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Reporter 4:
The entire population,
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roughly 100,000 was
potentially exposed to lead.
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Stephen: The Flint water crisis
really starts
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with the 2010 elections.
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In those elections,
Republicans gained
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total control
of the state government
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in Michigan.
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One of the things that
they did was they passed
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what they called
an emergency manager law.
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This law allowed
the state government
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to effectively override
local government
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and install their own executive
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to do practically whatever
they wanted
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in terms of public policy.
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Reporter: Governor Snyder
signed a new law
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giving financial managers
broader powers
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to fix the finances
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of communities
and school districts.
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Reporter 2: Seven emergency
financial managers
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are in place including
in cities like Detroit,
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Flint, and Pontiac.
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Rick: These emergency managers
were described
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as virtual dictators
over their communities.
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They could impose
spending cuts,
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they could re‐bargain contracts.
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Rev. Williams: They took control
to keep control.
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If that meant
taking democracy away,
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they decided that that would
be the route they would take.
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We have to send
the message
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that we will not tolerate
emergency dictators in the land.
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Curt: There was widespread
grassroots opposition
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because it was so extreme.
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Rev. Williams: We fought it,
we fought it in protest,
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we fought it using our bodies.
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All: Shame,
shame, shame, shame.
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We fought it at the ballot box.
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Curt: In November 2012,
by a pretty significant margin,
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voters rejected this extreme,
emergency manager law.
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Rev. Williams: We were excited
because grassroots won,
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everyday people won,
and said,
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"We don't want
emergency management."
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And then in the midnight hour,
in a lame duck session,
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the legislature
found this loophole,
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changed some words,
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changed some commas,
and created a new law,
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and then after they changed it,
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made sure that it could never
be repealed again.
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(ominous music playing)
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Stephen: One of the first things
that Republicans did
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when they took over
the legislature
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was they drew these aggressive
legislative districts
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that locked in
Republican majorities.
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David: The legislature
never would have passed
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the Emergency Manager Act
in Michigan if it had not been
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for gerrymandering.
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The people did not want this,
they went to the ballot box
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and they made that clear
in a referendum.
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But the legislature knew
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they were no longer accountable
to the people.
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They knew
that these district lines
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completely insulated them.
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Flint city officials:
Three, two, one.
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Man: Yeah!
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Here's to Flint!
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‐ Here's to Flint!
‐ Here, here!
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Rev. Williams: My office
started getting phone calls.
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"This water is horrible,
it comes out of the tap brown."
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I'll never forget, one lady
came up to me in a meeting
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and said, "Reverend, my dog
won't drink this water."
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Reporter: This crisis began
over a year ago, silently,
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when the city switched from
a Detroit water system,
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to the Flint River.
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The Flint River has
a high salt content,
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so it corroded the pipes
that it flowed through,
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and lead from those pipes
leached into the system.
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Rev. Williams: It happened
because elected officials
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had the ability to do whatever
they wanted to do.
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"If I don't ever have to worry
about being unelected,
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I don't care about your water.
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Why? Because I don't have
to be accountable to you."
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Faith in government began
to wane, faith in democracy,
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faith in the whole process
began to wane.
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Katie: I think Flint
woke people up.
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Just sitting and watching,
like, these politicians
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just so blatantly disregard
the will of the people.
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You have these officials
who feel untouchable,
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who feel like
they can't get unelected
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because they've designed
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and rigged a system
to make it that way.
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I just reached a point where
it was like, why aren't we‐‐
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how can we do something
about this, like, how?
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I wanted to have some way
to come together
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and start fixing this.
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And stop accepting
that things are corrupt.
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In this age of the internet,
you're so connected to, like,
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these great examples of people
who start off on something,
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and it does work sometimes.
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And so I think I thought,
you know,
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I'm going to throw it out
into the world.
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(keyboard clicking)
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From the moment I posted it,
I saw so many people
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who were just upset
with the current way politics
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had been happening.
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(keyboard clicking,
pinging)
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I saw that there was
a pent‐up energy.
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I was like, "I'm not alone."
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So I just thought I would,
yeah, try.
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(laughs)
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(curious music playing)
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David: Where you draw the lines
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makes all the difference.
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A mapmaker knows
as they draw a line
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how it's going to influence
an election precisely.
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Ari: The reason
that you gerrymander
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is to make it harder
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for your opponents' vote
to count.
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And there are a few
different ways you do that.
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You can pack your opponent,
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so you can put
your opponent's supporters
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into as few districts
as possible,
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so they'll win some seats,
but you'll win
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all the other seats.
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Then there is also cracking,
that's the other way
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gerrymandering works,
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where you spread
your opponents out.
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So, fine, you'll give
your opponents 20 percent
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of the vote
in a bunch of districts,
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but they're never going
to win those districts.
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Kevin: The effects of packing
and cracking
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are to create seats
that are safe.
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The winner is pre‐decided,
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just by the way
that the districts are drawn.
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Dale: It really represents
legislators picking voters,
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rather than voters
picking legislators,
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and I think most people
find that offensive.
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Katie: The system is
no longer working,
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the political system
no longer works
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for the average person,
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and in Michigan, it no longer
works for Michiganders.
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So for today, we're going
to do a campaign highlight,
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kind of give everybody
an update of what's happened
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over the last month.
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We wanted to do something
about this issue,
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but to pretend that we knew
at all what we were doing
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would be a complete lie.
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I'm John Hanieski,
I'm heading up
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the finance committee.
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I got pulled out
a few weeks ago,
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I know Katie from college,
we sat next to each other
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in public policy class.
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And then I'm also
the state field director,
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so I have that group also
which consists of...
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Katie: There had been
some news pieces saying
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that there was not interest
from our elected officials
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in changing this.
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The proposal at a glance
is it's going
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to be a citizen's commission.
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Katie: And so it just felt
like an independent
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citizen‐driven commission
that would draw the lines
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in a fair and transparent way
was the way to go.
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You prescribe for fixing this,
this citizens' commission.
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Four would be Democrats,
four would be Republicans,
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five would be Independents.
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Yeah, so right now the process
happens completely
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behind closed doors
and is the most partisan thing
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that could happen.
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You have one party
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with lobbyists
locking themselves behind,
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you know, that door.
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Our process takes all
of that and throws it out
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into the open.
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Thank you guys so much
for coming out on a Saturday.
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Katie: Because I don't do
politics for a job,
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it's not a huge
part of my life.
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When we started talking
to other groups, you know,
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they were like well, nobody
in your group has, you know,
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directly ran
a ballot initiative, so...
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Jonathan: I mean
are you going out
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and talking to groups,
trying to get
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some big organizations
who might have some
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financial resources
behind them?
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Katie: We're looking
to coalition build.
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It... Redistricting is
an issue that affects
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so many different things.
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Tim: So who do you have onboard?
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No organizations formally yet,
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but we're working with plenty.
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Rick: You're trying
to coalition build,
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who is in your coalition?
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I think they didn't know
what to do with us.
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So this is part of
the 14th Congressional District,
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so why was
it created this way?
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Katie: But we started doing
these town halls.
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Kevin: Farmington has
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a good number
of Republicans in it,
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so you pull Pontiac out
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and you put it in
the next district over
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because there
it contributes to majorities
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for the other side.
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Katie: And we saw, you know,
a renewed sense of urgency
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from the people of Michigan.
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We started from a Facebook post
in social media,
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and quickly turned into
a thousand different strangers
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from across the state
that have come together
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to go through the process,
learning as we go.
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Male speaker: Seeing that
all those in favor of the motion
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‐ signify by saying aye.
‐ Female speaker: Aye.
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All those opposed?
The motion carries.
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(cheering and applause)
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Yes, we have something
very important for you to do.
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(exclaims)
I'm going to cry.
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(Katie laughs)
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I am shaking, thank you.
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Our whole campaign
has been about the people,
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about representing accurately
the voices of the people
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and making sure that what
we actually want as change,
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doesn't get manipulated
from anybody,
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and I feel so confident
that we have done that
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and will continue to do that.
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So thanks
and let's go gather petitions.
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‐ Yeah!
‐ (cheering)
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Thanks, Joe.
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David: Gerrymandering takes
its name
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from a man named
Elbridge Gerry,
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the Governor of Massachusetts
in 1812
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who agrees to maps
that draw up wild districts.
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A political cartoonist takes
one look at this
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and thinks it looks
like a salamander,
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so it becomes known
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as gerrymandering.
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Quick sidenote, you are
not wrong to notice
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that the "gerry" in gerrymander
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refers to a guy whose name
was actually pronounced Gary
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because literally everything
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about gerrymandering
is stupid and wrong.
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Robert: All the way through
the mid to latter part
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of the 20th Century,
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gerrymandering,
though it was pervasive...
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State legislatures all
over America are at it again.
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Robert: ...it was never used
to consolidate
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and make permanent
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the power
of any one political party.
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Male speaker: Gerrymandering
continues to be
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an effective weapon
to maintain the status quo.
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David: It was often
about incumbent protection
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and both sides would do it.
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Democrats did a terrific
job of gerrymandering
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California in the 1980s.
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There was a congressman named
Phillip Burton who used to say
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that the district lines
that he drew there
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were his contribution
to modern art.
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Regan: The fact is
gerrymandering
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has become a national scandal.
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The Democratic controlled
state legislatures
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have so rigged
the electoral process
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that the will of the people
cannot be heard.
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Announcer: Ladies
and gentlemen,
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the next first family of the
United States of America.
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(cheering)
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David: November 2008,
we have the historic election
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of our first
African American president.
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You see a Democratic
super majority
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in the U. S. Senate,
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and it returns
a Democratic majority
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to the U. S. House.
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Reporter: The defeat is total,
Republican leaders
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just can't spin it any longer.
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Reporter 2: Barack Obama
promised to change
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the red states blue and he did.
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It is remarkable.
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Dave: If you watch the news
coverage of that night,
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folks were talking as if
the Republican party was dead
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for a generation, not simply
because of this election,
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but because of the way
American demographics
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are changing.
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Vann: I think Republicans
saw the writing on the wall
which is
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there are fewer and fewer
Republicans born every day,
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and more and more
Democrats every day.
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They're running out of room.
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There's no question
now Republicans have got
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a lot of work to do.
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Something is wrong
with the Republican party.
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The damage is very severe.
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Our party is eroding by the day.
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Chris: There is always
that moment, right?
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Whenever there is
a big loss for a party,
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there's this moment of panic.
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I think those of us who have
been around a little bit
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kind of can see past the panic,
but still have the fundamental
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strategic question:
What are we going to do?
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How do we get back?
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And I think that, you know,
part of that
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turned out
to be our REDMAP project.
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David: Chris Jankowski
is one of the smartest minds
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in the Republican party.
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He understands that
as important as 2008 was,
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2010 had the opportunity
to be a much more
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important election.
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2010 is a zero year,
elections ending in zero
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are more consequential
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because it's a census year
and we redistrict
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every state legislative seat
and congressional seat
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following the census.
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Vann: The census provides
an estimate of how many people
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are in every state,
and every county,
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and every block.
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As per the constitution,
in order to keep up
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with population shifts,
they build new state
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and congressional districts.
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In 80 percent of all states,
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it's the state legislatures
that play the key role
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in redistricting.
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If you win state legislatures
in 2010,
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you get to draw the new maps
that control all the elections
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over the next decade,
and they knew that.
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David: Jankowski goes
to Republican donors
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and says I can deliver
two things for you.
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I can deliver conservative
control of congress,
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perhaps for a decade,
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but I can also
promise Republican control
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the state legislatures
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and we can move
a conservative agenda
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through the states as well.
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It was a very easy
sell to those
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who were involved
in state elections.
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What we did was
we took the cost
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of swing congressional seats
over 10 years, five elections,
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and we pegged that at over
100 million per election.
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We said okay for this price
we can get control
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of those state legislatures
and re‐draw the maps.
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We projected it would be quite
a cost‐efficient endeavor.
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25, 30 million dollars
rather than
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almost half a billion.
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David: If you look at the donors
to this project you see
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the big money interests that
help fund the Republican party
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and conservative politics
in the country.
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Walmart.
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Altria which is big tobacco.
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The Chamber of Commerce.
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Establishment
corporate interests,
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like the Koch brothers.
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2010 already was setting
up to be a big year
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for the Republicans,
but what they wanted to do
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was win the right seats.
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The key seats that would allow
them to have an influence
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on the redistricting process.
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Chris: It was Wisconsin,
Ohio, Pennsylvania,
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North Carolina, Colorado.
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You know Michigan,
I had looked at their map,
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looked at their research,
and their plan,
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and I said, "Okay,
we're in for a million,"
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and they said, "Really?"
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And I said, "Yep, so I want
you to spread this map.
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Act like you've got
another million."
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They spent tons and
tons of money in races
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where people had never
even seen TV ads before.
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Female narrator: Senator
Reynolds supports
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Obama's health care takeover.
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Male narrator: A billion‐dollar
tax increase to fund
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more government spending.
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Female narrator 2: Unemployment
has almost doubled.
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Chris: We looked
and said okay,
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looks like crime
is an issue here.
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This incumbent has
bad crime votes,
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so we're going to
educate them on that.
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You know this is
a bad budget vote,
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this is a bad school vote.
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We went wherever the data
suggested we should go.
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Margaret: We had no idea
what was about to hit us.
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Nobody had ever seen
anything like it.
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In the last weeks
of that campaign,
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mailers from my opponent
were arriving every day.
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Female narrator: Incumbent
senator Margaret Dickson,
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who does she really care about?
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Margaret: Right at the end
there was a campaign ad
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against me that portrayed me
apparently as a prostitute.
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Female narrator: What
does Margaret Dickson
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really care about?
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I didn't really
sense it in North Carolina
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until the very end,
and I saw it in my race,
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and I saw it when I
talked to colleagues,
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they were having
the same experience.
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We all had kind of
this "ah‐ha" moment.
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And it was true, it wasn't
just North Carolina,
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it was true across
the country.
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It's shaping up as
a big Republican night.
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It is being called a GOP sweep
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and a Tea Party tidal wave.
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Chris: We knew it was
going to be a good night.
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The Friday before that, I went
out on a limb and predicted
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we would pick up at least
10 legislative chambers
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and possibly higher.
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And right after I got off
the phone with that reporter
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I thought, "Ooph, that seems,
yeah, I believe it,
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I see it in the data, but it
just seems really amazing."
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But then as the night
unfolded we took everything
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we intended to take.
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News pundit: North Carolina
House and Senate flip
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to the Republicans for
the first time since 1870.
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The Indiana House
has flipped,
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the Pennsylvania House
has flipped,
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Michigan House has flipped,
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the Ohio House has flipped,
the Iowa House has flipped.
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A tsunami just
hit the heartland.
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This was actually
something that wasn't covered
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a whole lot at the time.
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A dozen or so states would
turn into Republican hands
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and would now have control
over drawing all
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of the district boundaries.
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David: They did this
for 30 million dollars.
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It's the biggest bargain
and perhaps the biggest heist
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in modern American
political history.
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Chris: For us, it was
mission accomplished.
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And then the second part of
the plan was what happened
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with redrawing the lines.
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(keyboard clicking)
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We sent out a letter
to all of the new leaders
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and said,
"If you need resources,
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we would be happy to provide
those for you."
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They say, "If you need
mapping help,
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if you need legal
help, you let us know,
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we've got the money for you.
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We have the experts, we have
the money, let us help."
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(cheerful music playing)
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Stephen: Tom Hofeller
is kind of a superstar
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in gerrymandering.
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It's my job to advise
Republican stakeholders
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in the redistricting question
on how they can maneuver
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through these thickets.
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Stephen: He goes around
and works
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for Republican legislators
in multiple states
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and will draw their maps.
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There is something almost like
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an old country doctor
about Hofeller.
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He would pack his old kit bag,
you know, with his laptop,
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kiss his wife
in Alexandria, Virginia goodbye,
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and pet his dog.
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And then set off into
a country
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that was about
to be redrawn by him.
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Rob: Redistricting used to be
done by legislators
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or their legislative staff,
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so it was always
a partisan project,
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but at least people
lived in the state,
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and they knew the people,
and they knew the politics.
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These people out
of Washington,
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all they know is where
the airport is
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when they come down
and deliver the plans.
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And they also know how
to use sophisticated software
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to maximize political results.
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Jeff: Hofeller has got
a piece of software
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and he downloads a bunch
of political data into that
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and he spits out
the most partisan map
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that he thinks
the courts will allow.
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David: Gerrymandering
from 1788 through 2000
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is in its minor leagues.
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In 2010, gerrymandering
jumps straight
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into its steroids era.
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Big data and big technology
emerge in such a way
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that you can carve
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more precise gerrymanders
than ever.
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Margaret: They used census data,
educational levels,
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income levels.
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Stephen:
Voters' partisan history,
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their race and their gender,
and their age,
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those factors tell you so much
about a voter
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that you can predict
how they're going to vote
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in a few years with
a strong degree of confidence.
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Margaret: They could go down
the street and, "These people
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are Republicans, we're going
to put them in this district,
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these people
are Democrats,
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we're going to put
them over here."
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There was no transparency
at all
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because they were using
private computers,
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they were
being drawn off site
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by hired Republican consultants.
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Jeff: Picture a black box.
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Whatever happens inside
that black box, you can't see.
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They just come out
and they say here is the map.
505
00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:02.523
Stephen: It was a flawlessly
functioning map.
506
00:27:03.123 --> 00:27:05.191
Every single district hit
what you might call
507
00:27:05.325 --> 00:27:07.493
the sweet spot, safe enough
for Republicans
508
00:27:07.628 --> 00:27:08.862
to consistently win it,
509
00:27:09.062 --> 00:27:11.031
but it didn't waste
excess votes,
510
00:27:11.164 --> 00:27:13.199
they could have spread
around to other districts.
511
00:27:13.834 --> 00:27:15.035
On the other hand,
512
00:27:15.201 --> 00:27:16.903
the few Democratic districts
they drew
513
00:27:17.037 --> 00:27:19.239
were designed to quarantine
as many Democratic voters
514
00:27:19.372 --> 00:27:20.273
as possible.
515
00:27:20.406 --> 00:27:21.842
So, here is what they do.
516
00:27:22.008 --> 00:27:24.044
They get data on where all
the African Americans live
517
00:27:24.210 --> 00:27:25.879
and then they just
draw lines around it
518
00:27:26.012 --> 00:27:27.714
so the really
crazy looking maps,
519
00:27:27.848 --> 00:27:29.282
the really
squiggly looking ones,
520
00:27:29.550 --> 00:27:30.984
the reason they're squiggly
is because they're picking up
521
00:27:31.117 --> 00:27:32.786
all the African American
communities
522
00:27:32.919 --> 00:27:34.220
all throughout the state.
523
00:27:34.588 --> 00:27:36.156
Seth: Take a look at North
Carolina's congressional map.
524
00:27:36.289 --> 00:27:39.693
Look at District 12,
it's so weirdly shaped
525
00:27:39.826 --> 00:27:42.028
they can't even fit
the 12 in it.
526
00:27:42.729 --> 00:27:45.398
Looks like a Rorschach test,
what do you see in this shape?
527
00:27:45.532 --> 00:27:48.201
I don't know, it's either
a dragon or 300 years
528
00:27:48.334 --> 00:27:49.636
of institutional racism.
529
00:27:49.770 --> 00:27:51.404
(laughing)
530
00:27:53.339 --> 00:27:55.041
Ari: Republicans have
cynically
531
00:27:55.175 --> 00:27:57.410
put more and more minorities
into what's called
532
00:27:57.544 --> 00:27:58.945
the majority minority district.
533
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.081
So the district goes
50 percent minority,
534
00:28:01.214 --> 00:28:03.483
to 60 percent minority,
to 70 percent minority,
535
00:28:03.617 --> 00:28:06.520
and the reason they're doing
this is so that minorities
536
00:28:06.653 --> 00:28:10.356
will have less impact in
all of the other districts.
537
00:28:12.225 --> 00:28:14.895
And that was exactly the
strategy that Tom Hofeller
538
00:28:15.028 --> 00:28:16.730
used in North Carolina.
539
00:28:16.930 --> 00:28:19.399
Funneling as many black voters
as possible
540
00:28:19.533 --> 00:28:21.434
into the 1st and 12th
Congressional Districts,
541
00:28:21.568 --> 00:28:24.705
while bleaching
the surrounding areas.
542
00:28:27.574 --> 00:28:29.009
Carter: The truth is
543
00:28:29.142 --> 00:28:31.878
the Republicans targeted
African Americans,
544
00:28:32.713 --> 00:28:35.081
but the motivation wasn't,
545
00:28:35.381 --> 00:28:36.950
"We want to hurt
African‐Americans,"
546
00:28:37.083 --> 00:28:38.885
it was
"We want to hurt Democrats."
547
00:28:42.523 --> 00:28:44.390
Robert: One of Hofeller's
crowning achievements
548
00:28:44.525 --> 00:28:45.992
is what he did
in the western part
549
00:28:46.126 --> 00:28:47.393
of North Carolina,
550
00:28:47.828 --> 00:28:50.296
in particular, the district
that was occupied at the time
551
00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:53.233
by a moderate Democrat,
Heath Shuler.
552
00:28:54.701 --> 00:28:56.469
Rob: Heath Shuler was a former
553
00:28:56.603 --> 00:28:58.138
University of Tennessee
quarterback.
554
00:28:58.772 --> 00:29:02.042
He was kind of a moderate
to conservative Democrat.
555
00:29:02.175 --> 00:29:03.409
You didn't send me up there
556
00:29:03.544 --> 00:29:05.045
to blindly follow any one party,
557
00:29:05.178 --> 00:29:06.747
you sent me up there
to do what's right
558
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:07.948
for our mountain families.
559
00:29:08.582 --> 00:29:11.251
Rob: Loved guns,
is anti‐abortion,
560
00:29:11.552 --> 00:29:14.320
he was the very picture
of a good old boy.
561
00:29:15.155 --> 00:29:17.457
And so you can't really
run against this guy
562
00:29:17.591 --> 00:29:19.860
like he's
a San Francisco Democrat.
563
00:29:20.661 --> 00:29:22.629
So they had to change
the guy's district.
564
00:29:23.496 --> 00:29:26.933
The most Democratic area
of his district was Asheville,
565
00:29:27.067 --> 00:29:28.334
which is this little
Haight‐Ashbury
566
00:29:28.468 --> 00:29:29.536
in the middle
of the mountains.
567
00:29:32.706 --> 00:29:34.975
Robert: Hofeller just
essentially carved Asheville
568
00:29:35.108 --> 00:29:38.244
out of that map
and moved it to another area,
569
00:29:38.378 --> 00:29:42.849
an area that was so Republican
that it could absorb Asheville.
570
00:29:44.350 --> 00:29:46.787
Suddenly that part
of Buncombe County
571
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:48.321
where Asheville was a part
572
00:29:48.454 --> 00:29:51.024
was suddenly
quite a conservative district.
573
00:29:54.260 --> 00:29:57.130
Heath Shuler, recognizing
the writing on the wall,
574
00:29:57.263 --> 00:29:59.365
retires from politics
altogether.
575
00:29:59.800 --> 00:30:02.068
Suddenly now it's there
for the taking by Republicans
576
00:30:02.202 --> 00:30:04.771
and the guy who wins it
is a guy named Mark Meadows.
577
00:30:04.905 --> 00:30:06.807
2012 is the time
578
00:30:06.973 --> 00:30:09.009
that we're going
to send Mr. Obama home
579
00:30:09.309 --> 00:30:11.678
to Kenya or wherever it is,
we're going to do it.
580
00:30:11.812 --> 00:30:13.079
(cheering)
581
00:30:13.213 --> 00:30:14.515
Stephen: Meadows is now
582
00:30:14.648 --> 00:30:16.517
the chairman
of the Freedom Caucus
583
00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:19.653
which is the hardline group
in the House of Representatives
584
00:30:19.786 --> 00:30:22.789
that opposes anything
that is not orthodox,
585
00:30:22.923 --> 00:30:24.124
you know, conservatism.
586
00:30:25.125 --> 00:30:27.160
Vann: Replacement of people
like Shuler
587
00:30:27.293 --> 00:30:28.595
with people like Meadows
588
00:30:28.729 --> 00:30:30.363
is actually one of
the reasons why
589
00:30:30.631 --> 00:30:32.332
the country, as a whole,
has become so hyper‐partisan.
590
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.501
Candidates in the middle,
both moderate Republicans
591
00:30:35.636 --> 00:30:38.772
and conservative Democrats,
they've been the key targets.
592
00:30:39.540 --> 00:30:42.576
It moves our political
system towards polarization.
593
00:30:43.810 --> 00:30:47.113
David: When a member
of congress need only fear
594
00:30:47.247 --> 00:30:48.248
a primary challenge,
595
00:30:48.749 --> 00:30:50.884
when they are so safe
in their seat
596
00:30:51.184 --> 00:30:54.020
that they cannot actually
lose an election,
597
00:30:54.487 --> 00:30:56.657
all they care about
is guarding their base.
598
00:30:57.390 --> 00:31:00.093
So working across the aisle,
compromise,
599
00:31:00.260 --> 00:31:02.195
trying to find common ground,
all of the things
600
00:31:02.328 --> 00:31:04.030
we used to think of
as being central
601
00:31:04.164 --> 00:31:05.498
to the art of politics
602
00:31:05.866 --> 00:31:08.569
actually become the only things
that can cost them their seat.
603
00:31:33.827 --> 00:31:35.629
These are all shrink‐wrapped
in packages of a hundred
604
00:31:35.762 --> 00:31:37.097
and so are the petitions,
605
00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:38.632
so I'm just going to make
sure that you have 19.
606
00:31:38.765 --> 00:31:40.266
‐ Katie: These look great.
‐ Yeah, they do.
607
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:41.702
Then it's only
for people who signed,
608
00:31:41.835 --> 00:31:43.169
people who don't sign
don't get anything.
609
00:31:43.303 --> 00:31:45.038
Yeah, they don't.
(laughs)
610
00:31:48.308 --> 00:31:49.543
So, that's where we're headed.
611
00:31:49.710 --> 00:31:51.377
Are you guys registered
to vote in Michigan?
612
00:31:51.545 --> 00:31:53.179
Volunteer: Excuse me, ma'am,
are you a registered voter
613
00:31:53.313 --> 00:31:54.615
here in Michigan?
614
00:31:54.748 --> 00:31:56.116
Have you had a chance
to sign the petition
615
00:31:56.249 --> 00:31:57.884
to end gerrymandering
in Michigan?
616
00:31:58.018 --> 00:31:59.319
To end what?
617
00:31:59.452 --> 00:32:00.754
Volunteer: Would you be
interested in signing
618
00:32:00.887 --> 00:32:02.322
a petition against
gerrymandering?
619
00:32:02.455 --> 00:32:03.957
Woman: Against what's that?
620
00:32:04.090 --> 00:32:05.391
Volunteer: Gerrymandering.
621
00:32:05.726 --> 00:32:07.393
Reporter: In Michigan it is
almost impossible
622
00:32:07.528 --> 00:32:10.463
for a petition drive to gather
enough signatures
623
00:32:10.664 --> 00:32:14.134
without using paid professional
petition circulators.
624
00:32:14.267 --> 00:32:15.569
You're not
paying for names.
625
00:32:15.736 --> 00:32:17.237
‐ Katie: Correct.
‐ And you don't intend to?
626
00:32:17.370 --> 00:32:18.605
Katie: Correct, yeah.
627
00:32:18.939 --> 00:32:20.206
Right now, we're at
two weeks in officially today,
628
00:32:20.340 --> 00:32:21.575
we have 50,000 signatures
629
00:32:21.708 --> 00:32:23.109
that have been gathered
a hundred percent
630
00:32:23.243 --> 00:32:24.645
by volunteers
from across the state.
631
00:32:24.845 --> 00:32:26.613
Volunteer: We're working
with Voters Not Politicians
632
00:32:26.747 --> 00:32:28.381
for
the anti‐gerrymandering drive.
633
00:32:28.515 --> 00:32:30.116
Because right now
politicians are manipulating
634
00:32:30.250 --> 00:32:32.318
the system, so then
they don't listen to voters.
635
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:35.355
Hi, this is Katie,
I'm doing a super,
636
00:32:35.488 --> 00:32:37.123
super late weekly update.
637
00:32:37.290 --> 00:32:41.261
I just wanted to say thank you
to every single person
638
00:32:41.394 --> 00:32:44.765
who decided to start
gathering signatures.
639
00:32:45.165 --> 00:32:46.900
So I would start
with today's date.
640
00:32:47.100 --> 00:32:49.636
Kyle: The anti‐fracking movement
had a lot of energy
641
00:32:49.770 --> 00:32:52.105
and they failed to get
the signatures needed
642
00:32:52.238 --> 00:32:53.540
to get on the ballot.
643
00:32:53.674 --> 00:32:55.208
‐ Do you know about the topic?
‐ Oh, yeah.
644
00:32:55.341 --> 00:32:56.543
You're all set, okay, wonderful.
645
00:32:56.810 --> 00:32:58.378
News pundit:
I mean, the only group ever
646
00:32:58.512 --> 00:33:00.113
to manage getting a petition
on the ballot
647
00:33:00.246 --> 00:33:02.415
using only volunteers
was Right to Life.
648
00:33:02.583 --> 00:33:04.751
If anyone else
is interested in signing.
649
00:33:04.885 --> 00:33:07.053
I'm not sure if anyone
has been paying attention
650
00:33:07.187 --> 00:33:08.889
at all to our ticker,
651
00:33:09.055 --> 00:33:12.926
but we are at
196,000 signatures,
652
00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:14.661
which is absolutely amazing.
653
00:33:14.795 --> 00:33:18.331
They're not only
on pace to get the 400,000
654
00:33:18.464 --> 00:33:20.934
that they want, but they,
it looks like they're going
655
00:33:21.067 --> 00:33:24.671
to do it before their deadline
which is really amazing.
656
00:33:24.805 --> 00:33:26.339
I tell you these
folks are everywhere.
657
00:33:26.472 --> 00:33:27.708
I mean I can't go
to a public event
658
00:33:27.841 --> 00:33:29.009
without seeing them.
659
00:33:29.375 --> 00:33:30.711
Oh my gosh, remember
right after we got approval
660
00:33:30.844 --> 00:33:32.378
where they called
all our people old ladies
661
00:33:32.513 --> 00:33:34.214
who aren't going
to get anything done?
662
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.650
They're like, their minds
are blown, it's awesome.
663
00:33:36.983 --> 00:33:38.685
(keyboard clacking)
664
00:33:45.892 --> 00:33:48.595
Woman: Aww, goodbye, hair.
665
00:33:48.995 --> 00:33:50.764
Ah, I wish I was
better at this.
666
00:33:50.897 --> 00:33:52.165
Woman 2: It's pretty bad.
667
00:33:52.298 --> 00:33:54.034
‐ Joe: Not as much as I do.
‐ (laughter)
668
00:34:01.908 --> 00:34:04.144
Katie: Today we turn
in our signatures
669
00:34:04.277 --> 00:34:05.646
to the Secretary of State.
670
00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:07.881
Who would have known that
a little over a year ago
671
00:34:08.014 --> 00:34:11.618
we would be here today
turning them in two months early
672
00:34:11.752 --> 00:34:13.053
with all volunteers?
673
00:34:13.186 --> 00:34:14.454
In under 40 days
674
00:34:14.588 --> 00:34:17.057
we got all 83 counties
represented
675
00:34:17.223 --> 00:34:18.491
and that is only possible
676
00:34:18.625 --> 00:34:20.493
because all
of you guys decided to say,
677
00:34:20.627 --> 00:34:22.763
"Heck yeah I'm going to
join onto this thing."
678
00:34:22.896 --> 00:34:25.331
Here is where
we're loading up the petitions.
679
00:34:25.465 --> 00:34:27.200
I'm not sure
if everybody can see this,
680
00:34:27.333 --> 00:34:31.271
but there are literally
rows and rows of boxes.
681
00:34:36.977 --> 00:34:40.881
Rick: I remember the first time
I saw this group get together
682
00:34:41.081 --> 00:34:42.549
and talk about it and,
you know,
683
00:34:42.683 --> 00:34:44.651
I'm a veteran
political reporter,
684
00:34:44.785 --> 00:34:45.819
I'll have you know.
685
00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:48.622
And I looked at these people
and I was like, "No way."
686
00:34:49.122 --> 00:34:50.356
No way.
687
00:34:50.557 --> 00:34:52.826
I know what a winning
operation looks like
688
00:34:52.959 --> 00:34:54.194
and this isn't it.
689
00:34:54.928 --> 00:34:58.164
Kathay: They have turned
every political operative's
690
00:34:58.298 --> 00:35:00.534
predictions on their head.
691
00:35:01.401 --> 00:35:03.737
They have really blown
the box up
692
00:35:03.870 --> 00:35:06.573
and there is no more box,
they have reinvented everything.
693
00:35:06.707 --> 00:35:08.875
Our proposal will take
redistricting out of the hands
694
00:35:09.009 --> 00:35:10.310
of politicians and lobbyists
695
00:35:10.443 --> 00:35:12.045
who do their work
behind closed doors
696
00:35:12.178 --> 00:35:15.315
and give it to citizens
who will do it in the public.
697
00:35:15.448 --> 00:35:17.283
What we've seen in other states
who have done
698
00:35:17.417 --> 00:35:19.152
redistricting efforts
similar to ours
699
00:35:19.285 --> 00:35:20.453
is you see higher voter turnout.
700
00:35:20.587 --> 00:35:22.022
There's about
13 different states
701
00:35:22.155 --> 00:35:23.957
that have
independent commissions.
702
00:35:24.090 --> 00:35:28.228
(cheering)
703
00:35:28.361 --> 00:35:29.696
Our U‐Haul.
704
00:35:29.930 --> 00:35:32.165
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There it is,
a really full truck.
705
00:35:35.235 --> 00:35:37.771
Katie: Thousands of people
worked on this campaign.
706
00:35:38.939 --> 00:35:40.941
If we can get this passed
in 2018,
707
00:35:41.074 --> 00:35:44.611
there will be thousands
of people who affected law
708
00:35:44.745 --> 00:35:46.580
that will affect every election
in Michigan.
709
00:35:47.147 --> 00:35:49.415
It was for and by the people
and I know that's like
710
00:35:49.550 --> 00:35:51.317
kind of hokey,
and kind of like, you know,
711
00:35:51.451 --> 00:35:53.453
really Founding Fathers‐y,
but like the fact
712
00:35:53.587 --> 00:35:55.522
that we would actually be able
to do that
713
00:35:55.656 --> 00:35:57.991
and prove that democracy
is still out there,
714
00:35:58.291 --> 00:35:59.359
that's amazing.
715
00:35:59.993 --> 00:36:01.762
No matter what you do
for this campaign,
716
00:36:01.895 --> 00:36:06.833
entering the check numbers,
like it all is only possible
717
00:36:06.967 --> 00:36:08.301
because of each of you.
718
00:36:08.535 --> 00:36:10.937
And I know at least on my end,
that's the best part
719
00:36:11.071 --> 00:36:14.407
about this campaign is seeing
that really the political power
720
00:36:14.541 --> 00:36:17.477
is inherent
in the people, so yeah!
721
00:36:17.678 --> 00:36:21.915
(cheering)
722
00:36:35.061 --> 00:36:37.197
Justin: The one thing
that we are sure of
723
00:36:37.397 --> 00:36:39.866
is that legislators will fight
like crazy
724
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.467
to retain this power they have.
725
00:36:41.735 --> 00:36:44.337
I think there will be a
vicious fight by the people
726
00:36:44.470 --> 00:36:46.907
who are in power
to preserve that power.
727
00:36:47.140 --> 00:36:48.709
They're going to want
to try to find some way
728
00:36:48.842 --> 00:36:50.877
to litigate us,
to keep us off from the ballot.
729
00:36:51.077 --> 00:36:52.913
We are not going to outspend
our opposition.
730
00:36:53.046 --> 00:36:55.481
We might get lucky
and get outspent four to one.
731
00:36:55.616 --> 00:36:58.151
We're probably going to get
outspent 10 to 20 to one.
732
00:36:58.284 --> 00:37:01.321
The opposition is going to try
to bleed us dry financially.
733
00:37:01.454 --> 00:37:03.456
And then they're going
to go for the PR.
734
00:37:03.690 --> 00:37:05.559
They're going to be saying
that we are complex,
735
00:37:05.759 --> 00:37:08.529
that we are complicated,
and that we're confusing.
736
00:37:08.662 --> 00:37:11.765
We cannot make our policy
sound even a little bit...
737
00:37:12.032 --> 00:37:14.868
complex, confusing at all.
738
00:37:15.035 --> 00:37:16.269
Like, we have to make sure
739
00:37:16.402 --> 00:37:17.738
it's a very simple
and direct approach,
740
00:37:17.871 --> 00:37:19.272
and that the
language that we use
741
00:37:19.405 --> 00:37:21.307
to describe the policy
reflects that.
742
00:37:22.576 --> 00:37:24.077
They're absolutely
worried about us.
743
00:37:24.578 --> 00:37:25.679
They know and we know
744
00:37:25.812 --> 00:37:26.813
that once this gets
on the ballot,
745
00:37:26.947 --> 00:37:28.381
it almost always passes.
746
00:37:41.161 --> 00:37:42.462
(elephant trumpets)
747
00:37:46.600 --> 00:37:48.034
(snake hisses)
748
00:37:50.504 --> 00:37:52.472
(bat chirps)
749
00:37:58.011 --> 00:37:59.345
(duck quacks)
750
00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:20.534
Justin: The election of 2010
had been the Tea Party wave
751
00:38:21.234 --> 00:38:23.269
and the redistricting
that followed
752
00:38:23.403 --> 00:38:24.871
the election of 2010
753
00:38:25.005 --> 00:38:28.174
would keep those
legislators in their seats.
754
00:38:29.042 --> 00:38:32.045
In a normal political cycle,
we would expect a wave
755
00:38:32.178 --> 00:38:33.847
to come in and a wave to recede,
756
00:38:33.980 --> 00:38:36.016
and a wave to come in
and a wave to recede.
757
00:38:36.182 --> 00:38:37.450
We see this over
and over again.
758
00:38:37.818 --> 00:38:41.622
The election of 2010
was a giant wave
759
00:38:42.455 --> 00:38:43.757
and the Republican Party
760
00:38:43.924 --> 00:38:46.627
put up an enormous
sea wall in order to stop
761
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:48.328
that wave from receding.
762
00:38:48.595 --> 00:38:50.797
And when that happened,
we have seen extreme policy
763
00:38:50.931 --> 00:38:51.965
as a result.
764
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(cheerful music playing)
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00:39:08.314 --> 00:39:11.985
Peter: Wisconsin is basically
an evenly divided state.
766
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.354
Half of the state is Republican
767
00:39:14.487 --> 00:39:16.422
and half the state
is Democratic.
768
00:39:20.794 --> 00:39:24.397
In 2010, Project REDMAP
and the Republicans
769
00:39:24.565 --> 00:39:25.866
invested a large amount
770
00:39:25.999 --> 00:39:28.635
of very strategically
targeted money.
771
00:39:28.835 --> 00:39:31.538
They took the State Assembly
and the State Senate
772
00:39:31.772 --> 00:39:33.874
and they won the governorship.
773
00:39:35.475 --> 00:39:36.843
Scott: No matter
where you live,
774
00:39:37.043 --> 00:39:38.478
no matter what
your background,
775
00:39:38.612 --> 00:39:39.846
no matter who you voted for,
776
00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:41.982
we all live
in Wisconsin together,
777
00:39:42.115 --> 00:39:44.851
and we're going to move
this state forward together.
778
00:39:44.985 --> 00:39:46.319
(cheering)
779
00:39:46.452 --> 00:39:48.021
Sly: Scott Walker just swept in
780
00:39:48.154 --> 00:39:49.923
with the rest
of the Republicans.
781
00:39:50.056 --> 00:39:51.758
I mean the slate went
from everything Democratic,
782
00:39:51.892 --> 00:39:54.995
to everything Republican,
everything.
783
00:39:57.030 --> 00:39:59.299
Chris: REDMAP, for us,
was only the beginning.
784
00:40:00.166 --> 00:40:01.902
State governments,
like Wisconsin,
785
00:40:02.035 --> 00:40:04.304
were little laboratories
of democracy.
786
00:40:04.738 --> 00:40:06.573
Now that we
got control of them,
787
00:40:06.707 --> 00:40:07.941
we wanted to do something
with it.
788
00:40:08.108 --> 00:40:10.043
‐ Good morning.
‐ Officials: Good morning.
789
00:40:10.844 --> 00:40:12.546
I see everyone's here to see
my prediction for
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00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.115
the Ohio State/Wisconsin game
on Saturday.
791
00:40:23.389 --> 00:40:26.660
In this bill will be a change
in terms of state employees
792
00:40:26.993 --> 00:40:30.163
not being required
to be a part of their union.
793
00:40:30.897 --> 00:40:33.066
Barry: Act 10 would essentially
do away
794
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.536
with collective bargaining
for public sector employees.
795
00:40:35.969 --> 00:40:37.638
That was something that
had been a long tradition
796
00:40:37.771 --> 00:40:39.640
in Wisconsin, had been
a cherished part of the state.
797
00:40:39.873 --> 00:40:41.241
That was a total surprise.
798
00:40:41.374 --> 00:40:42.843
This is a significant change,
799
00:40:43.143 --> 00:40:45.646
this is obviously a very bold
and aggressive change.
800
00:40:45.779 --> 00:40:47.614
The Republicans,
they understood,
801
00:40:47.748 --> 00:40:50.383
Scott Walker understood
that public sector unions,
802
00:40:50.517 --> 00:40:52.586
the teachers,
the municipal workers,
803
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.220
the folks that pick up
your garbage,
804
00:40:54.354 --> 00:40:57.858
they tend to vote Democratic
and they use their unions
805
00:40:57.991 --> 00:41:01.762
as a means of promoting
their political views.
806
00:41:01.895 --> 00:41:03.196
Thanks very much for your time.
807
00:41:03.329 --> 00:41:05.165
Peter: So he wanted
to destroy that.
808
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.669
Dale: I knew what
this would mean.
809
00:41:09.102 --> 00:41:13.473
It came up in caucus
and I think my exact words were,
810
00:41:13.607 --> 00:41:14.908
"Are you crazy?"
811
00:41:15.241 --> 00:41:17.678
People kill each other's dogs
over this kind of stuff.
812
00:41:18.011 --> 00:41:20.514
(playing "America the Beautiful"
on bagpipes)
813
00:41:27.487 --> 00:41:30.156
Peter: When Act 10 was
introduced, the entire state
814
00:41:30.290 --> 00:41:32.125
just rose up in anger.
815
00:41:32.258 --> 00:41:34.427
Announcers: We are proud
to stand with you,
816
00:41:34.561 --> 00:41:35.862
Wisconsin backers.
817
00:41:36.062 --> 00:41:37.564
(cheering)
818
00:41:37.731 --> 00:41:40.266
First there was 10,000,
then there was 20,000,
819
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.436
then there were 30,000,
and this thing just sparked.
820
00:41:43.570 --> 00:41:47.674
Protesters: Hey, hey, ho, ho,
Scott Walker has got to go.
821
00:41:48.642 --> 00:41:50.711
Patrick: Tens of thousands
of people in the capitol.
822
00:41:50.844 --> 00:41:54.414
All protesters:
Solidarity forever.
823
00:41:54.748 --> 00:41:57.818
Patrick: As many as 100,00
on the capitol ground some days
824
00:41:57.951 --> 00:41:59.786
and this thing is sustained
for days, and days,
825
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:01.254
and weeks, and weeks.
826
00:42:07.327 --> 00:42:11.364
Dale: It's just hard to express
how angry people were.
827
00:42:12.432 --> 00:42:14.935
You know this is a place
like Minnesota,
828
00:42:15.068 --> 00:42:18.238
people are basically nice,
and suddenly we had
829
00:42:18.404 --> 00:42:21.842
this incredible,
polarized atmosphere.
830
00:42:22.643 --> 00:42:26.446
‐ Woman: We are the union!
‐ Protestors: We are the union!
831
00:42:26.580 --> 00:42:28.414
Woman: The mighty, mighty union.
832
00:42:28.615 --> 00:42:31.184
Fred: We were a state
that had a strong tradition
833
00:42:31.317 --> 00:42:32.853
of trade unions.
834
00:42:33.987 --> 00:42:37.591
People thought, "What in
the world is he trying to do?"
835
00:42:43.096 --> 00:42:44.698
Scott: Hi, this is Scott Walker.
836
00:42:44.931 --> 00:42:47.100
David Koch Impersonator:
Scott, David Koch, how are you?
837
00:42:47.233 --> 00:42:49.502
Scott: Hey, David,
I'm good, and yourself?
838
00:42:49.670 --> 00:42:50.971
David Koch Impersonator:
I'm very well.
839
00:42:51.204 --> 00:42:52.873
Little disheartened
by the situation there,
840
00:42:53.006 --> 00:42:54.841
but what's the latest?
841
00:42:55.175 --> 00:42:57.377
Scott: We're actually
hanging pretty tough.
842
00:42:57.511 --> 00:43:00.514
You know amazingly there
is a much smaller group
843
00:43:00.647 --> 00:43:02.248
of protesters,
almost all of whom
844
00:43:02.382 --> 00:43:04.150
are in from other states today.
845
00:43:12.626 --> 00:43:14.094
5,000 to 6,000 state workers
846
00:43:14.227 --> 00:43:16.096
will get at‐risk notices
for layoffs.
847
00:43:16.329 --> 00:43:18.298
We might ratchet that up
a little bit, you know.
848
00:43:18.464 --> 00:43:19.900
David Koch Impersonator:
Beautiful, beautiful,
849
00:43:20.033 --> 00:43:21.735
got to crush that union.
850
00:43:22.402 --> 00:43:24.905
Chris: Just as there were all
these protesters begging
851
00:43:25.038 --> 00:43:26.673
this governor to
listen to them,
852
00:43:27.473 --> 00:43:29.776
the person who he was willing
to listen to
853
00:43:29.910 --> 00:43:31.044
and so eager to please
854
00:43:31.177 --> 00:43:33.113
was an out‐of‐state billionaire.
855
00:43:33.279 --> 00:43:35.415
He talked about coordinating
with other governors,
856
00:43:35.549 --> 00:43:38.685
which made it very clear
that this is a national plan.
857
00:43:38.819 --> 00:43:40.153
Scott: I talk
to Kasich every day,
858
00:43:40.420 --> 00:43:42.756
you know, John has got
to stand firm in Ohio.
859
00:43:42.989 --> 00:43:45.926
I think we can do
the same thing
with Rick Scott in Florida.
860
00:43:46.059 --> 00:43:49.062
I think Snyder if he got
a little more support,
861
00:43:49.195 --> 00:43:50.764
probably could do that
in Michigan.
862
00:43:50.897 --> 00:43:52.766
This was a test run
to see if they could
863
00:43:52.899 --> 00:43:55.268
run over public employee unions
nationwide.
864
00:43:55.468 --> 00:43:57.403
Scott: There's a lot of us
new governors who got elected
865
00:43:57.538 --> 00:43:58.805
to do something big.
866
00:43:59.139 --> 00:44:00.707
David Koch Impersonator:
You're the first domino.
867
00:44:00.874 --> 00:44:03.209
Scott: Yep, this is our moment.
868
00:44:11.552 --> 00:44:14.555
Stephen: Republicans had no fear
of losing power
869
00:44:14.988 --> 00:44:16.289
because they could
draw districts
870
00:44:16.422 --> 00:44:18.825
to insulate themselves
from public opinion.
871
00:44:21.094 --> 00:44:22.596
David: The leadership
of the Republican Party
872
00:44:22.729 --> 00:44:24.665
in both the House and the
Senate in Wisconsin
873
00:44:24.798 --> 00:44:29.169
are able to tell their members,
"It's okay to vote for this.
874
00:44:29.402 --> 00:44:31.872
It might not be
popular, stay strong,
875
00:44:32.005 --> 00:44:34.307
we are drawing you a seat
you cannot lose."
876
00:44:38.178 --> 00:44:41.047
Peter: While the streets were
full of people demonstrating,
877
00:44:41.214 --> 00:44:42.883
hundreds of
thousands of people,
878
00:44:43.449 --> 00:44:45.819
what we didn't know
was that Scott Walker
879
00:44:45.952 --> 00:44:48.321
and the legislature
took the computers
880
00:44:48.454 --> 00:44:50.123
that they were going
to use to redistrict
881
00:44:50.490 --> 00:44:52.458
out of the capitol building,
and they moved them
882
00:44:52.593 --> 00:44:54.961
across the street
to a Republican law firm
883
00:44:55.095 --> 00:44:57.097
by the name
of Michael Best and Friedrich.
884
00:44:58.565 --> 00:45:01.334
And in the very back
of that law firm they set up
885
00:45:01.467 --> 00:45:03.336
a secret mapping room.
886
00:45:06.339 --> 00:45:10.744
Ari: It's an incredibly powerful
and jarring juxtaposition.
887
00:45:11.011 --> 00:45:13.313
You have these two things
playing out,
888
00:45:13.514 --> 00:45:15.448
there's all these
people protesting
889
00:45:15.582 --> 00:45:17.150
the anti‐union legislation.
890
00:45:17.383 --> 00:45:20.721
Right across the street,
key aides to the legislature
891
00:45:20.854 --> 00:45:22.188
are writing, in secret,
892
00:45:22.322 --> 00:45:24.257
the redistricting maps
that will determine
893
00:45:24.424 --> 00:45:26.727
Republicans' power
for the next decade.
894
00:45:28.695 --> 00:45:30.564
Sachin: Knowing that they had
both houses
895
00:45:30.697 --> 00:45:31.932
of the legislature,
896
00:45:32.132 --> 00:45:33.634
they did everything they could
to hide
897
00:45:33.767 --> 00:45:36.570
their map drawing process
not only from the public,
898
00:45:36.703 --> 00:45:38.404
but even from most Republicans.
899
00:45:40.340 --> 00:45:42.108
Peter: Nobody could even come
into the room
900
00:45:42.242 --> 00:45:43.977
unless you signed
a secrecy agreement.
901
00:45:44.377 --> 00:45:46.046
And if you'd signed
that secrecy agreement
902
00:45:46.179 --> 00:45:47.681
and you managed
to get into the room,
903
00:45:47.814 --> 00:45:49.249
which you could only do
if you were a Republican,
904
00:45:49.449 --> 00:45:52.452
you were only
allowed to see your own map.
905
00:45:54.354 --> 00:45:56.389
State Legislator: So you have
before you the various maps
906
00:45:56.523 --> 00:45:59.560
and we have some other members
of the legislation here
907
00:45:59.693 --> 00:46:01.027
and we're open for questions.
908
00:46:02.095 --> 00:46:03.630
Sachin:
When we first see the maps,
909
00:46:03.764 --> 00:46:06.232
it's obvious that there's
some significant bias in them.
910
00:46:08.268 --> 00:46:10.436
Some individual legislators
had been drawn
911
00:46:10.571 --> 00:46:12.072
competing districts
912
00:46:12.338 --> 00:46:14.207
that were going to be much
tougher for them to win in.
913
00:46:15.208 --> 00:46:17.143
There were these districts
that were drawn
914
00:46:17.277 --> 00:46:20.180
to pull Democratic voters
into suburban districts
915
00:46:20.380 --> 00:46:22.282
so there would be fewer
Democratic districts.
916
00:46:22.583 --> 00:46:24.518
And there were clearly some
districts that were going
917
00:46:24.651 --> 00:46:25.952
to be less competitive.
918
00:46:28.421 --> 00:46:31.157
Chris:
It was very well calculated.
919
00:46:31.357 --> 00:46:34.427
They knew exactly
what they were doing.
920
00:46:34.628 --> 00:46:35.896
Wolf: We're closing in
921
00:46:36.296 --> 00:46:38.031
on the first results in
the battle for the White House.
922
00:46:51.011 --> 00:46:53.780
When the results were
known on election night
923
00:46:53.914 --> 00:46:56.382
and we had been killed
in the election,
924
00:46:56.750 --> 00:46:59.119
somebody said, "Well,
don't worry, all is not lost,
925
00:46:59.252 --> 00:47:01.788
the Republicans
won 60 seats in the Assembly."
926
00:47:01.922 --> 00:47:03.256
I said to myself
927
00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:04.958
and I said audibly
to the people I was with,
928
00:47:05.091 --> 00:47:06.893
"Well, that can't be right,
929
00:47:07.093 --> 00:47:09.195
there's a mistake
here somewhere."
930
00:47:09.630 --> 00:47:12.465
And it was at that point
I began to realize
931
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.168
that things had changed.
932
00:47:15.335 --> 00:47:17.704
You have several
states in 2012
933
00:47:17.971 --> 00:47:19.139
where Democratic candidates
934
00:47:19.272 --> 00:47:21.007
actually won
more votes statewide
935
00:47:21.141 --> 00:47:23.610
than Republicans did,
but Republicans would win
936
00:47:23.744 --> 00:47:24.745
lopsided majorities.
937
00:47:25.646 --> 00:47:28.549
You had Pennsylvania
where Democrats won more votes
938
00:47:28.815 --> 00:47:30.050
and Republicans walked away
939
00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:31.384
with a thirteen
to five advantage.
940
00:47:33.019 --> 00:47:35.088
Michigan where Democrats
won more votes
941
00:47:35.221 --> 00:47:37.524
and Republicans had
a nine to five advantage.
942
00:47:39.459 --> 00:47:40.861
North Carolina.
943
00:47:42.195 --> 00:47:43.463
Wisconsin.
944
00:47:45.498 --> 00:47:47.333
All of these states
at either the congressional
945
00:47:47.467 --> 00:47:50.737
or legislative level saw
Democratic candidates
946
00:47:50.871 --> 00:47:52.873
win more votes statewide
but Republicans
947
00:47:53.006 --> 00:47:54.407
win a majority of seats.
948
00:47:56.276 --> 00:47:58.078
David: Republicans could not
be beaten
949
00:47:58.378 --> 00:47:59.813
and they were not beaten.
950
00:47:59.946 --> 00:48:03.517
even when their side
got many fewer votes.
951
00:48:03.950 --> 00:48:05.385
And what you immediately see
952
00:48:05.552 --> 00:48:07.187
in all of these
gerrymandered states
953
00:48:07.353 --> 00:48:11.124
is the rapid movement
of a very conservative agenda
954
00:48:11.257 --> 00:48:12.626
through state legislatures.
955
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.462
Reporter: A new bill
being considered in Wisconsin
956
00:48:16.597 --> 00:48:18.298
would allow
local school districts
957
00:48:18.431 --> 00:48:19.766
to make sex education
958
00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:21.735
and teaching
contraception optional.
959
00:48:21.902 --> 00:48:24.104
Reporter 2: Republicans here
called a special session
960
00:48:24.237 --> 00:48:26.540
to pass House Bill 2,
more commonly known
961
00:48:26.707 --> 00:48:28.074
as the "Bathroom Bill".
962
00:48:28.208 --> 00:48:30.944
A recent move by the legislature
removes one route
963
00:48:31.077 --> 00:48:32.813
to recourse in wage disputes.
964
00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:36.149
It started the moment
the General Assembly
965
00:48:36.282 --> 00:48:37.450
went into session.
966
00:48:37.618 --> 00:48:39.252
We're on
the 10th order of business,
967
00:48:39.385 --> 00:48:42.055
second reading of amendments
and senate bill.
968
00:48:42.188 --> 00:48:44.057
A legislative
blitzkrieg would be
969
00:48:44.190 --> 00:48:46.059
the way I would describe it.
970
00:48:47.761 --> 00:48:49.095
Bob: There was anti‐regulation,
971
00:48:49.229 --> 00:48:50.631
anti‐environment.
972
00:48:50.864 --> 00:48:52.332
Senate Speaker: The clerk
will close the role,
973
00:48:52.465 --> 00:48:53.900
Assembly Amendment 3
is adopted.
974
00:48:54.234 --> 00:48:55.736
Sachin: Defund public schools.
975
00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:58.672
Sly: Destabling and going after
Planned Parenthood.
976
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:00.173
Concealed carry
was another issue
977
00:49:00.306 --> 00:49:01.975
that they fought
for a long time.
978
00:49:02.108 --> 00:49:03.276
Democratic governor
would veto it,
979
00:49:03.409 --> 00:49:04.578
they were able
to put that through.
980
00:49:04.711 --> 00:49:06.212
Reporter:
Another gun rights bill
981
00:49:06.346 --> 00:49:07.781
is on the table
to protect drivers
982
00:49:07.914 --> 00:49:10.016
who carry their firearms
inside their vehicles
983
00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:11.384
and go to work.
984
00:49:11.952 --> 00:49:13.119
If you wonder,
985
00:49:13.554 --> 00:49:16.590
"Why do we see representatives
that are doing things
986
00:49:16.723 --> 00:49:18.659
that their constituents
don't want?"
987
00:49:18.925 --> 00:49:22.328
"Why are laws being passed
that don't seem to reflect
988
00:49:22.462 --> 00:49:23.864
the wishes of the public?"
989
00:49:24.297 --> 00:49:26.967
Gerrymandering is a big part
of the explanation.
990
00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:29.836
One legislator stood
on the floor and said,
991
00:49:29.970 --> 00:49:31.237
"We are now in power,
992
00:49:31.371 --> 00:49:33.139
and we're going
to exercise that power,
993
00:49:33.273 --> 00:49:35.475
and you all can sit back
and forget about it."
994
00:49:35.609 --> 00:49:39.412
Protesters: Bring back,
bring back,
995
00:49:39.546 --> 00:49:42.649
oh, bring back Wisconsin to me.
996
00:49:43.449 --> 00:49:44.818
Ari: People began wondering,
997
00:49:44.951 --> 00:49:46.987
"Where are all
of these laws coming from?"
998
00:49:47.621 --> 00:49:51.491
The fact that Wisconsin,
Michigan, North Carolina,
999
00:49:51.625 --> 00:49:54.460
Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania,
they're all passing
1000
00:49:54.595 --> 00:49:57.130
virtually identical pieces
of legislation,
1001
00:49:57.263 --> 00:50:00.000
that's not a coincidence,
someone is behind this.
1002
00:50:06.873 --> 00:50:08.274
Chris: ALEC stands for
1003
00:50:08.408 --> 00:50:10.310
the American Legislative
Exchange Council
1004
00:50:10.443 --> 00:50:14.414
and the goal of ALEC
is to push out policies
1005
00:50:14.548 --> 00:50:17.450
to maximize corporate profits
at the state level.
1006
00:50:17.851 --> 00:50:22.455
This has been a goal
of the right for decades.
1007
00:50:24.558 --> 00:50:27.360
Ari: This is a shadow arm
of the Republican party.
1008
00:50:28.662 --> 00:50:31.598
You have corporations
literally writing bills
1009
00:50:31.732 --> 00:50:33.499
in conjunction
with state legislators
1010
00:50:33.634 --> 00:50:34.968
and then state legislators
1011
00:50:35.101 --> 00:50:37.137
introducing those bills
to become law.
1012
00:50:52.318 --> 00:50:55.121
How many of our Christians
have what I call
1013
00:50:55.255 --> 00:50:56.923
the goo‐goo syndrome?
1014
00:50:57.423 --> 00:51:01.361
Good government,
they want everybody to vote.
1015
00:51:02.128 --> 00:51:03.930
I don't want
everybody to vote.
1016
00:51:04.230 --> 00:51:07.100
Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
1017
00:51:07.233 --> 00:51:08.334
they never have been
1018
00:51:08.468 --> 00:51:09.402
from the beginning
of our country,
1019
00:51:09.536 --> 00:51:10.937
and they are not now.
1020
00:51:11.104 --> 00:51:13.173
As a matter of fact,
our leverage in the elections
1021
00:51:13.306 --> 00:51:14.474
quite candidly goes up
1022
00:51:14.641 --> 00:51:16.510
as the voting populace
goes down.
1023
00:51:16.677 --> 00:51:18.645
Reporter: A developing story,
a voter ID bill in Wisconsin
1024
00:51:18.779 --> 00:51:20.614
is moving on
to the full assembly.
1025
00:51:20.747 --> 00:51:22.783
The measure would
require voters to show
1026
00:51:22.916 --> 00:51:24.450
their ID's at the polls.
1027
00:51:25.185 --> 00:51:28.622
Ari: I first became aware
of ALEC after the 2010 election
1028
00:51:28.755 --> 00:51:31.658
when we began to see all
of these new voter ID laws.
1029
00:51:31.792 --> 00:51:34.194
And it was clear
that these voter ID laws
1030
00:51:34.327 --> 00:51:37.230
had been written by ALEC
after the 2008 election,
1031
00:51:37.363 --> 00:51:39.766
because we saw
the model bill, we saw the bill
1032
00:51:39.900 --> 00:51:41.267
that had ALEC's name on it.
1033
00:51:41.535 --> 00:51:43.570
Reporter: Republicans say
their intent
1034
00:51:43.704 --> 00:51:45.371
is to eliminate voter fraud
1035
00:51:45.572 --> 00:51:47.974
by requiring a photo ID
from anyone
1036
00:51:48.108 --> 00:51:49.342
who votes in Wisconsin.
1037
00:51:49.576 --> 00:51:51.678
They have advanced
these model bills
1038
00:51:51.812 --> 00:51:53.046
on voter identification
1039
00:51:53.179 --> 00:51:57.350
by creating this lie
that somehow
1040
00:51:57.483 --> 00:51:59.352
people are impersonating people
at the polls.
1041
00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:01.454
Reporter: Republicans say
this will cut down
1042
00:52:01.588 --> 00:52:03.790
on documented election fraud
in the state.
1043
00:52:04.591 --> 00:52:06.593
Ari: It's only when you begin
to understand
1044
00:52:06.793 --> 00:52:10.030
that in fact voter fraud
is an incredibly small problem
1045
00:52:10.163 --> 00:52:11.397
in American elections.
1046
00:52:11.632 --> 00:52:13.299
Then you begin to realize
that all of these laws
1047
00:52:13.433 --> 00:52:15.368
were passed for
an entirely different reason.
1048
00:52:15.501 --> 00:52:17.270
It had nothing to do
with voter fraud,
1049
00:52:17.403 --> 00:52:19.139
it was all about trying
to prevent
1050
00:52:19.272 --> 00:52:20.507
Democratic‐leaning voters
1051
00:52:20.641 --> 00:52:22.408
from being able
to cast a ballot.
1052
00:52:24.310 --> 00:52:27.113
Gerry: Instead of trying to
reach out to minority voters,
1053
00:52:27.247 --> 00:52:30.116
they said, "No, now that we've
gerrymandered the districts,
1054
00:52:30.316 --> 00:52:31.484
we're going to go after
1055
00:52:31.618 --> 00:52:32.886
and suppress
those voting rights."
1056
00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:34.688
Those bills would have
never been passed
1057
00:52:34.921 --> 00:52:37.357
but for the gerrymandering
that took place.
1058
00:52:46.299 --> 00:52:48.468
Vann: In the '90s,
North Carolina was actually
1059
00:52:48.602 --> 00:52:51.204
really progressive
when it came to voting rights.
1060
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.777
I'm a North Carolinian
and lots of my family
1061
00:52:57.077 --> 00:53:00.981
were the people that gained
the ability to vote.
1062
00:53:01.882 --> 00:53:04.317
They liked being able
to register at license offices,
1063
00:53:04.450 --> 00:53:06.186
they liked early voting.
1064
00:53:06.887 --> 00:53:09.055
They loved what's known
as Souls to the Polls,
1065
00:53:09.455 --> 00:53:11.424
which is early
voting on Sunday.
1066
00:53:12.793 --> 00:53:15.228
I've talked to people
who had that sense of joy,
1067
00:53:15.361 --> 00:53:16.930
who've had, for the first time
in their lives,
1068
00:53:17.063 --> 00:53:18.064
a sense of belongingness.
1069
00:53:18.865 --> 00:53:22.603
Anita: The process opened up,
more people were voting,
1070
00:53:22.969 --> 00:53:24.370
and percentagewise,
1071
00:53:24.505 --> 00:53:26.239
African American
registration levels
1072
00:53:26.372 --> 00:53:28.474
became more at parity
with whites.
1073
00:53:28.609 --> 00:53:31.377
And we turn to
a strict new voter ID law
1074
00:53:31.512 --> 00:53:32.913
in North Carolina,
1075
00:53:33.213 --> 00:53:35.849
which is putting a spotlight
on the broader national fight
1076
00:53:35.982 --> 00:53:39.185
over when and where
people can cast ballots.
1077
00:53:39.319 --> 00:53:41.755
What the new North Carolina
voting law did
1078
00:53:41.888 --> 00:53:44.357
was it rolled back almost
every single one
1079
00:53:44.490 --> 00:53:46.760
of those new provisions
that had been created
1080
00:53:47.027 --> 00:53:48.762
to add more black people
to the electorate.
1081
00:53:48.929 --> 00:53:51.131
It didn't just
include strict voter ID,
1082
00:53:51.264 --> 00:53:52.566
but it cut early voting,
1083
00:53:52.699 --> 00:53:54.367
it eliminated
same‐day voter registration,
1084
00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:55.936
it eliminated
out‐of‐precinct voting,
1085
00:53:56.102 --> 00:53:58.672
it even eliminated
Citizens Awareness Month
1086
00:53:58.805 --> 00:54:00.406
which the state
of North Carolina
1087
00:54:00.674 --> 00:54:03.777
ran to encourage people
to register to vote.
1088
00:54:04.545 --> 00:54:05.912
Jeff: It was all about
1089
00:54:06.046 --> 00:54:07.981
suppressing
African American vote
1090
00:54:08.114 --> 00:54:10.651
in order to give Republicans
an extra one to three percent
1091
00:54:10.784 --> 00:54:12.519
which is the margin
of victory
1092
00:54:12.653 --> 00:54:14.621
in all of our competitive races.
1093
00:54:14.855 --> 00:54:16.557
So even though gerrymandering
has reduced
1094
00:54:16.690 --> 00:54:19.325
the number of competitive races
to only about 10 percent,
1095
00:54:19.459 --> 00:54:21.828
they wanted to reduce it
even more.
1096
00:54:22.028 --> 00:54:26.867
Ain't going to let
no extremists turn me around,
1097
00:54:27.333 --> 00:54:31.071
turn me around,
turn me around.
1098
00:54:31.237 --> 00:54:33.439
Vann: I've interviewed people
who say now
1099
00:54:33.607 --> 00:54:35.408
they have lost their pride,
1100
00:54:35.542 --> 00:54:36.943
they've lost
that sense of belonging.
1101
00:54:37.077 --> 00:54:40.246
And that's a lot deeper than
just the nuts and bolts
1102
00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:41.682
of a partisan advantage.
1103
00:54:45.018 --> 00:54:47.320
Anita: There was a client
that I represented,
1104
00:54:47.521 --> 00:54:48.922
she was born at home
with a midwife,
1105
00:54:49.055 --> 00:54:50.691
didn't have a birth certificate,
couldn't get an ID.
1106
00:54:51.457 --> 00:54:55.228
She went to vote in person
and she was turned away.
1107
00:54:55.929 --> 00:54:59.132
It's humiliating when you go
and say, "I'm a citizen,
1108
00:54:59.265 --> 00:55:01.001
I have the right to vote,
I would like to vote,"
1109
00:55:01.134 --> 00:55:02.736
and everyone else
around you is voting,
1110
00:55:02.869 --> 00:55:04.971
and they turn you away
and say, "No you can't vote."
1111
00:55:05.105 --> 00:55:06.306
It is humiliating.
1112
00:55:14.748 --> 00:55:16.583
Stephen: Republicans see
their time running out
1113
00:55:16.717 --> 00:55:18.519
when it comes
to the demographics.
1114
00:55:18.819 --> 00:55:21.087
They see that the country
is getting less white,
1115
00:55:21.221 --> 00:55:25.058
more educated,
and overall just more diverse.
1116
00:55:25.959 --> 00:55:27.561
David: What they
have come up with
1117
00:55:28.028 --> 00:55:31.064
is a plan to try
and stem that tide.
1118
00:55:31.798 --> 00:55:35.969
It starts with gerrymandering,
it starts with drawing lines
1119
00:55:36.136 --> 00:55:39.606
that give them the ability
to win all of these districts.
1120
00:55:41.074 --> 00:55:44.611
The second part of this process
is voter suppression tactics
1121
00:55:44.878 --> 00:55:47.180
designed to make it harder
for Democrats
1122
00:55:47.313 --> 00:55:51.051
and minorities to exercise
the right to vote.
1123
00:55:52.686 --> 00:55:55.488
It's not a bunch
of disparate parts,
1124
00:55:55.689 --> 00:55:58.291
it's not like
one voter suppression law here,
1125
00:55:58.424 --> 00:56:00.226
one gerrymandering law here,
this is part of a concerted
1126
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.963
this is part of a concerted
national strategy
1127
00:56:03.096 --> 00:56:04.397
by the Republican party
1128
00:56:04.531 --> 00:56:07.367
that's being undertaken
all across the country
1129
00:56:07.500 --> 00:56:10.537
including in so many
important swing states.
1130
00:56:26.653 --> 00:56:29.189
Brad: We battled
to get voter ID on the ballot
1131
00:56:29.322 --> 00:56:31.391
for the November '16 election.
1132
00:56:31.525 --> 00:56:35.061
How many of your listeners
really honestly are sure
1133
00:56:35.195 --> 00:56:37.998
that President Trump was going
to win Wisconsin
1134
00:56:38.231 --> 00:56:39.700
if we didn't have voter ID
1135
00:56:39.833 --> 00:56:43.604
to keep Wisconsin's elections
clean and honest?
1136
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:48.241
Ari: I absolutely think
you can draw a line
1137
00:56:48.408 --> 00:56:50.343
line between
he voter suppression efforts
1138
00:56:50.476 --> 00:56:53.113
and the gerrymandering efforts
and election results.
1139
00:56:54.715 --> 00:56:55.849
We are seeing efforts
1140
00:56:55.982 --> 00:56:58.018
to undermine
the very core values
1141
00:56:58.184 --> 00:56:59.553
of American democracy.
1142
00:56:59.753 --> 00:57:02.122
Nothing is more fundamental
in America
1143
00:57:02.255 --> 00:57:03.757
than having the right to vote,
1144
00:57:03.890 --> 00:57:05.792
and having
the right to representation,
1145
00:57:06.059 --> 00:57:08.695
and those two core values
have been undermined
1146
00:57:08.829 --> 00:57:10.931
by this new assault
on democracy.
1147
00:57:23.443 --> 00:57:25.679
‐ Ruth: Hello.
‐ Bill: Hello, great to see you.
1148
00:57:25.812 --> 00:57:27.948
Ruth: You too, how are you?
1149
00:57:28.381 --> 00:57:29.482
It looks good, right?
1150
00:57:29.616 --> 00:57:30.851
Woman: Hi, Bill.
1151
00:57:31.618 --> 00:57:33.253
Nick: Good to see you,
how are you?
1152
00:57:33.386 --> 00:57:34.387
‐ Hello.
‐ Hi!
1153
00:57:34.521 --> 00:57:35.656
Congratulations,
1154
00:57:35.789 --> 00:57:37.090
I've been watching
your campaign.
1155
00:57:37.357 --> 00:57:38.559
‐ Plaintiff: Thank you.
‐ Ruth: That's very exciting.
1156
00:57:38.692 --> 00:57:40.761
Hey, Mary Lynne,
good to see you.
1157
00:57:44.430 --> 00:57:47.534
(indistinct chatter)
1158
00:57:49.269 --> 00:57:50.571
I just want to be sure
1159
00:57:50.704 --> 00:57:53.006
that everybody
gets to know Don Winter,
1160
00:57:53.139 --> 00:57:55.676
who hasn't been to one
of these meetings before.
1161
00:57:55.809 --> 00:57:57.110
These are all
your fellow planners, Don.
1162
00:57:57.243 --> 00:58:01.047
Emily Bunting, Janet Mitchell,
that's a lawyer.
1163
00:58:01.181 --> 00:58:03.216
(laughs)
1164
00:58:04.718 --> 00:58:06.787
Well one question I had,
too, about this election,
1165
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:08.321
about
the Supreme Court election‐‐
1166
00:58:08.454 --> 00:58:11.057
I've never met an epidemiologist
that didn't get nailed!
1167
00:58:11.191 --> 00:58:12.325
Nick: Hello.
1168
00:58:12.458 --> 00:58:14.060
Hey, how are you?
Good to see you.
1169
00:58:15.596 --> 00:58:18.532
That's Ruth,
that's Nick, Annabelle,
1170
00:58:18.665 --> 00:58:21.267
you know the names, I'm sure.
Peter Earle.
1171
00:58:24.270 --> 00:58:27.974
Nick: We did meet through
our involvement in this field.
1172
00:58:28.208 --> 00:58:31.712
Our relationship has sort
of fueled the lawsuit,
1173
00:58:31.845 --> 00:58:33.213
but then at the same time,
the lawsuit,
1174
00:58:33.413 --> 00:58:37.684
it's sort of
a mutually reinforcing circle.
1175
00:58:37.818 --> 00:58:39.920
Maybe coming from abroad,
I have less
1176
00:58:40.053 --> 00:58:41.688
of a sense of the status quo.
1177
00:58:41.822 --> 00:58:44.958
So when I see something,
like the fact that legislators
1178
00:58:45.091 --> 00:58:46.993
are allowed to draw
their own district lines,
1179
00:58:47.193 --> 00:58:49.429
I'm more easily able
to say, "Well why?"
1180
00:58:49.563 --> 00:58:50.831
Like that doesn't make
any sense.
1181
00:58:50.964 --> 00:58:52.733
Can we sit out there
so we can look at maps?
1182
00:58:52.866 --> 00:58:54.635
I brought all the maps
on the wall.
1183
00:58:54.901 --> 00:58:57.437
I thought it might be useful
to hear from all of you
1184
00:58:57.571 --> 00:58:58.939
about your districts
1185
00:58:59.205 --> 00:59:01.207
to understand what's wrong
with your districts as they are.
1186
00:59:01.407 --> 00:59:03.276
So, maybe would all
of you feel comfortable,
1187
00:59:03.409 --> 00:59:05.612
we have the map at the moment,
you're welcome to come up
1188
00:59:05.746 --> 00:59:07.147
point and tell me
what you like,
1189
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:08.982
and what you don't like,
and what you would prefer.
1190
00:59:09.115 --> 00:59:11.852
We were taken out
of our district
1191
00:59:11.985 --> 00:59:16.623
and attached to
a strongly Republican district.
1192
00:59:16.857 --> 00:59:20.093
I really feel that
our vote is a wash.
1193
00:59:20.393 --> 00:59:23.530
No matter what I do
or what we do as Democrats,
1194
00:59:23.664 --> 00:59:26.032
we can't get
a representative elected.
1195
00:59:26.366 --> 00:59:29.570
We're sort of in exile
down in Grant County
1196
00:59:29.703 --> 00:59:33.540
and I have
these two secure Republicans
1197
00:59:33.674 --> 00:59:38.244
who do not bother with me.
1198
00:59:38.478 --> 00:59:40.180
This is the district now,
and you can look,
1199
00:59:40.313 --> 00:59:42.048
like it goes up here
a little bit.
1200
00:59:42.182 --> 00:59:45.018
You can look at how crazy it is
with all these different lines,
1201
00:59:45.151 --> 00:59:46.920
but what's interesting,
you'll notice,
1202
00:59:47.053 --> 00:59:49.523
here's the city of Portage,
it goes around the city lines,
1203
00:59:49.656 --> 00:59:50.824
the city of Portage.
1204
00:59:50.957 --> 00:59:52.492
That's a Democratic‐‐
Excludes it.
1205
00:59:52.626 --> 00:59:54.127
It goes right around
the city limits.
1206
00:59:54.260 --> 00:59:56.863
Here is the city of Compass,
this is a Democratic city,
1207
00:59:56.997 --> 00:59:59.099
it goes right around
the city lines
1208
00:59:59.232 --> 01:00:00.166
and keeps it out.
1209
01:00:00.433 --> 01:00:03.036
So they took
the four largest municipalities
1210
01:00:03.169 --> 01:00:05.305
and went right around
the city lines.
1211
01:00:05.438 --> 01:00:08.308
It's a very good example
of gerrymandering.
1212
01:00:10.010 --> 01:00:11.512
Ari: The Whitford plaintiffs
realized
1213
01:00:11.645 --> 01:00:13.914
there was no legislative fix
to gerrymandering.
1214
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.851
Democrats were never going
to be able to win enough seats
1215
01:00:18.018 --> 01:00:20.921
under the gerrymandered maps
to have any sort of impact,
1216
01:00:21.054 --> 01:00:23.256
so they had to attack
this in the courts,
1217
01:00:23.389 --> 01:00:25.726
and they had to attack it
in an innovative way.
1218
01:00:25.892 --> 01:00:27.594
Ruth: If you are on the side
that you say
1219
01:00:27.728 --> 01:00:30.163
gerrymandering
isn't unconstitutional...
1220
01:00:30.330 --> 01:00:33.299
Ari: But no federal court
had ever outlawed
1221
01:00:33.433 --> 01:00:35.702
partisan gerrymandering before.
1222
01:00:36.537 --> 01:00:37.804
And to succeed,
1223
01:00:37.938 --> 01:00:39.305
the Whitford plaintiffs
had to show
1224
01:00:39.439 --> 01:00:41.808
that Republicans
deliberately intended
1225
01:00:41.975 --> 01:00:44.645
to deprive Democrats
of representation.
1226
01:00:49.049 --> 01:00:50.483
Peter:
We're trying to figure out,
1227
01:00:50.617 --> 01:00:52.853
how are we going to get a case
before the court
1228
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.989
that could once and for all
resolve this problem?
1229
01:00:56.623 --> 01:00:58.058
And we saw an avenue here.
1230
01:00:59.259 --> 01:01:01.762
We immediately demanded
that Republicans
1231
01:01:01.895 --> 01:01:03.597
in
the Wisconsin state legislature
1232
01:01:03.730 --> 01:01:07.333
give us all of the documents
from the secret mapping room
1233
01:01:07.568 --> 01:01:09.836
related to
the redistricting process.
1234
01:01:10.036 --> 01:01:13.173
All the emails,
all the iterations of the maps,
1235
01:01:13.540 --> 01:01:16.442
and they responded to us that,
"No, you don't get
1236
01:01:16.577 --> 01:01:19.412
this information.
This information is privileged."
1237
01:01:20.581 --> 01:01:23.383
The court said, "No, you have
to give them these documents.
1238
01:01:23.517 --> 01:01:25.185
You're required to
produce this information,
1239
01:01:25.318 --> 01:01:27.187
this is not something
you can hide from the public."
1240
01:01:34.027 --> 01:01:35.328
Doug: We knew
that they weren't being
1241
01:01:35.495 --> 01:01:37.731
completely forthcoming
in all of the information
1242
01:01:37.864 --> 01:01:38.799
they were providing to us.
1243
01:01:39.700 --> 01:01:42.435
There were some spreadsheets
that were created
1244
01:01:42.603 --> 01:01:43.737
by the mapmakers,
1245
01:01:44.004 --> 01:01:46.339
but we noticed
that for some reason,
1246
01:01:46.472 --> 01:01:50.343
we didn't have any spreadsheets
in April, or in May,
1247
01:01:50.544 --> 01:01:53.346
or I think June, also, of 2011.
1248
01:01:54.715 --> 01:01:57.483
And so we hired
a computer forensic expert
1249
01:01:57.618 --> 01:01:59.452
to look through
the hard drives to see
1250
01:01:59.586 --> 01:02:02.055
if he could come up
with any spreadsheets
1251
01:02:02.188 --> 01:02:05.091
from that time frame
where they were missing.
1252
01:02:07.628 --> 01:02:09.462
Mark: The first thing
that struck me
1253
01:02:09.596 --> 01:02:12.365
is one
of the external hard drives
1254
01:02:12.498 --> 01:02:17.804
had screws on the bottom
that had a number of scratches.
1255
01:02:18.471 --> 01:02:20.006
This lead me to believe
1256
01:02:20.140 --> 01:02:24.444
that someone had disassembled
this external hard drive.
1257
01:02:27.380 --> 01:02:32.553
I also determined that a piece
of commercial wiping software
1258
01:02:32.686 --> 01:02:36.122
had been downloaded
and executed.
1259
01:02:36.256 --> 01:02:38.725
And in one hard drive
we identified
1260
01:02:38.859 --> 01:02:41.995
almost one million
deleted files.
1261
01:02:43.229 --> 01:02:47.033
Someone did not want us
to see what had been
1262
01:02:47.167 --> 01:02:48.869
on those hard drives.
1263
01:02:52.472 --> 01:02:55.542
Doug: Mark was able to recover
dozens of spreadsheets.
1264
01:02:56.643 --> 01:02:58.845
And these spreadsheets
turned out to be
1265
01:02:58.979 --> 01:03:00.280
what we would see
as smoking gun evidence
1266
01:03:00.413 --> 01:03:01.314
in the case.
1267
01:03:03.550 --> 01:03:05.719
Mark: The spreadsheets
told a story
1268
01:03:06.286 --> 01:03:10.156
about how these maps
were being drawn,
1269
01:03:11.324 --> 01:03:14.728
and how these
were different scenarios
1270
01:03:14.861 --> 01:03:16.496
that were being played out.
1271
01:03:16.997 --> 01:03:19.533
It was as though
they were testing.
1272
01:03:21.635 --> 01:03:23.570
Sachin: You look at each
successive spreadsheet
1273
01:03:23.704 --> 01:03:26.106
and you can see the maps
getting more and more biased.
1274
01:03:26.372 --> 01:03:29.342
They started at 49 seats
at their basic map,
1275
01:03:29.475 --> 01:03:32.579
then go up to 52 seats,
and 55 seats, then 57 seats,
1276
01:03:32.713 --> 01:03:34.581
and 58 seats, and 59 seats.
1277
01:03:36.216 --> 01:03:37.784
What they were doing
was they're reducing
1278
01:03:37.918 --> 01:03:39.319
the number of competitive seats.
1279
01:03:40.521 --> 01:03:43.690
They got pretty quickly
to 59 seats for themselves.
1280
01:03:43.824 --> 01:03:45.626
I think there were four
or five iterations
1281
01:03:45.759 --> 01:03:47.360
of the map at 59.
1282
01:03:47.861 --> 01:03:49.630
Then they take the 59‐seat map
and they continue
1283
01:03:49.763 --> 01:03:51.164
and they continue to tweak it
1284
01:03:51.632 --> 01:03:53.499
subjecting it
to this analysis to say,
1285
01:03:53.634 --> 01:03:55.435
well what if the Democrats
do really well?
1286
01:03:55.602 --> 01:03:58.905
What if our candidates lose
the argument with the voters?
1287
01:04:00.206 --> 01:04:01.708
On that final map,
1288
01:04:01.875 --> 01:04:04.545
even under the scenario
of the Democrats winning
1289
01:04:04.678 --> 01:04:07.614
the vote by the biggest margin
they've ever won
1290
01:04:07.748 --> 01:04:09.049
in modern Wisconsin history,
1291
01:04:09.349 --> 01:04:11.852
the Republicans would still get
59 seats minimum
1292
01:04:11.985 --> 01:04:13.086
in the state assembly.
1293
01:04:13.587 --> 01:04:16.990
That's an astonishing
manipulation of democracy.
1294
01:04:17.157 --> 01:04:18.424
I mean think
about it for a second.
1295
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.227
I mean, people elect
their representative
1296
01:04:21.361 --> 01:04:23.429
and representatives
are accountable to the people
1297
01:04:23.564 --> 01:04:24.464
who elect them.
1298
01:04:24.798 --> 01:04:26.900
And, um... But if you do this,
1299
01:04:27.634 --> 01:04:30.203
if you were able
to gerrymander effectively,
1300
01:04:30.336 --> 01:04:33.740
and egregiously, and durably
for an entire 10‐year period,
1301
01:04:33.940 --> 01:04:35.141
there's no accountability.
1302
01:04:35.308 --> 01:04:37.511
They can do whatever
the hell they want
1303
01:04:37.644 --> 01:04:40.380
and that is what they
have been doing in Wisconsin.
1304
01:04:40.647 --> 01:04:41.648
Peter: Good morning.
1305
01:04:42.182 --> 01:04:45.552
I'm Peter Earle
and I'm the lead trial lawyer
1306
01:04:45.986 --> 01:04:48.154
in this lawsuit
which we filed today.
1307
01:04:57.130 --> 01:04:59.232
Peter:
When one party gains control
1308
01:04:59.365 --> 01:05:02.736
of all the levers of government
and then stacks the deck
1309
01:05:02.869 --> 01:05:04.571
in their favor
to keep control
1310
01:05:04.705 --> 01:05:06.472
regardless of the will
of the people,
1311
01:05:06.607 --> 01:05:10.310
the very heart and soul
of our democracy is weakened.
1312
01:05:10.677 --> 01:05:14.080
There had never been
a successful opinion of any sort
1313
01:05:14.214 --> 01:05:15.516
in this kind of a case.
1314
01:05:16.517 --> 01:05:19.753
I'm always a pessimist when
it comes to litigation.
1315
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.956
I thought that our odds
of winning a trial
1316
01:05:23.089 --> 01:05:24.925
were less than 50 percent.
1317
01:05:25.058 --> 01:05:26.259
Federal Court rules today
1318
01:05:26.392 --> 01:05:28.028
that Wisconsin state
voting districts
1319
01:05:28.161 --> 01:05:30.731
drawn up by Republicans
are unconstitutional.
1320
01:05:30.864 --> 01:05:33.466
I remember when it came out,
immediately, I called Nick.
1321
01:05:33.734 --> 01:05:37.003
She just yelled out,
you know, "We won, we won."
1322
01:05:37.170 --> 01:05:38.471
I was like, "You have
to come right now,
1323
01:05:38.605 --> 01:05:40.106
I'm going to buy champagne."
(laughs)
1324
01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:41.341
(cork popping)
1325
01:05:41.642 --> 01:05:45.679
We were absolutely delighted
to actually see
1326
01:05:45.846 --> 01:05:47.247
a verdict in your favor,
1327
01:05:47.380 --> 01:05:48.982
you know,
for the first time in 30 years.
1328
01:05:49.149 --> 01:05:50.283
It was awesome.
1329
01:06:01.494 --> 01:06:03.229
David: This is the single
biggest case for the future
1330
01:06:03.363 --> 01:06:05.231
of our democracy since
Citizens United.
1331
01:06:05.398 --> 01:06:09.235
This may be the last time
we have an opportunity
1332
01:06:09.369 --> 01:06:11.905
to do something
about partisan gerrymandering.
1333
01:06:12.205 --> 01:06:14.407
If they lose,
it's no holds barred.
1334
01:06:20.847 --> 01:06:23.316
(trolley bell rings)
1335
01:06:32.626 --> 01:06:34.728
Announcer: We'd like
to thank you all for joining us
1336
01:06:34.861 --> 01:06:37.163
from near and far,
crossing the country,
1337
01:06:37.297 --> 01:06:41.501
and crossing partisan lines
to focus on solutions.
1338
01:06:44.505 --> 01:06:47.440
Jamie: We're here
at the Unrig the System Summit
1339
01:06:47.574 --> 01:06:50.176
and we are mostly
just building connections.
1340
01:06:50.310 --> 01:06:51.912
That guy you were
talking to said he would
1341
01:06:52.045 --> 01:06:53.614
introduce us to that funder.
1342
01:06:54.147 --> 01:06:55.415
Jamie: We're all volunteers
1343
01:06:55.549 --> 01:06:57.117
and we've never done
this before,
1344
01:06:57.250 --> 01:06:58.484
so we have a lot
to learn from people.
1345
01:06:58.619 --> 01:06:59.920
‐ Hey, Anna.
‐ Anna: Nice to meet you.
1346
01:07:00.053 --> 01:07:01.154
What organization are you with?
1347
01:07:01.287 --> 01:07:02.523
What's been really fun
about it
1348
01:07:02.656 --> 01:07:04.257
is that everybody knows
about us already.
1349
01:07:04.390 --> 01:07:05.892
We're kind of famous.
1350
01:07:06.026 --> 01:07:07.561
I'm trying to be modest
about that.
1351
01:07:07.694 --> 01:07:08.995
‐ Sachin: Congratulations.
‐ Thank you.
1352
01:07:09.129 --> 01:07:10.363
Sachin: Thank you.
1353
01:07:10.496 --> 01:07:11.932
‐ On the app or...
‐ Sachin: I'm a fan.
1354
01:07:12.065 --> 01:07:13.199
Oh, great.
1355
01:07:13.366 --> 01:07:14.367
Sachin: I'm the director
in Wisconsin.
1356
01:07:14.500 --> 01:07:15.435
Oh, awesome.
Can we connect?
1357
01:07:15.569 --> 01:07:17.003
Can we first take a selfie?
1358
01:07:17.170 --> 01:07:18.539
Yes, please, please,
that would be great.
1359
01:07:18.672 --> 01:07:20.874
Such amazing stuff
just in being all volunteer,
1360
01:07:21.007 --> 01:07:23.176
and engaging people,
it's really been amazing.
1361
01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:24.578
Katie: He is my lawyer.
1362
01:07:24.711 --> 01:07:26.246
(Katie laughs)
1363
01:07:30.717 --> 01:07:32.352
I wish. (laughs)
1364
01:07:33.019 --> 01:07:34.220
So, you got my text?
1365
01:07:34.387 --> 01:07:35.789
Katie: What was your text?
1366
01:07:35.922 --> 01:07:37.624
It's before you speak,
Heather and I want to talk
1367
01:07:37.758 --> 01:07:40.360
to you about how to find a
way to get a money pitch in.
1368
01:07:40.493 --> 01:07:41.928
If you talk about
where we're at.
1369
01:07:42.062 --> 01:07:43.396
‐ Just, I mean...
‐ Mm‐hmm.
1370
01:07:43.530 --> 01:07:45.265
That's how we're
starting is "Where are you at?"
1371
01:07:45.398 --> 01:07:47.467
Where we're at,
quite honestly where we're at
1372
01:07:47.601 --> 01:07:49.369
is we're waiting
for the Board of Canvassers,
1373
01:07:49.502 --> 01:07:51.037
but frankly we're raising money.
1374
01:07:51.171 --> 01:07:52.472
I'm Katie Fahey,
1375
01:07:52.739 --> 01:07:54.908
I'm with an organization
called Voters Not Politicians.
1376
01:07:55.041 --> 01:07:57.944
Kathay: One of the things
that they're now
having to figure out
1377
01:07:58.078 --> 01:08:00.547
is how do we go from being
1378
01:08:00.681 --> 01:08:03.216
a citizen signature
gathering effort
1379
01:08:03.416 --> 01:08:04.851
to a campaign?
1380
01:08:05.251 --> 01:08:07.187
And how do we start to talk to
1381
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.289
a much broader universe
of people,
1382
01:08:09.523 --> 01:08:11.925
some of whom will be told
by the opposition
1383
01:08:12.058 --> 01:08:13.459
that this is a power grab
1384
01:08:13.594 --> 01:08:15.328
and you should never
vote for it.
1385
01:08:19.099 --> 01:08:20.400
Yeah.
1386
01:08:24.905 --> 01:08:26.773
Fight, oh my god, we know.
1387
01:08:31.878 --> 01:08:33.179
Bill: What about
1388
01:08:33.446 --> 01:08:34.981
the Voters Not Politicians
ballot proposal?
1389
01:08:35.115 --> 01:08:36.750
If that gets on the ballot,
do you think it's going to pass,
1390
01:08:36.883 --> 01:08:38.885
and does that cause
a big problem for Republicans
1391
01:08:39.019 --> 01:08:39.953
going forward?
1392
01:08:40.086 --> 01:08:41.254
I don't think it will pass,
1393
01:08:41.387 --> 01:08:42.789
but also when you talked
in your intro
1394
01:08:42.923 --> 01:08:45.826
about, this is some 27‐year‐old
miraculously came up
1395
01:08:45.992 --> 01:08:48.394
and organization came together,
I don't believe it.
1396
01:08:48.529 --> 01:08:49.830
I believe when you
peel behind it,
1397
01:08:49.963 --> 01:08:52.032
you are going to see
that this has all been
1398
01:08:52.165 --> 01:08:53.333
constructed by Democrats.
1399
01:08:53.466 --> 01:08:54.901
‐ But you think it will fail?
‐ I do.
1400
01:08:57.037 --> 01:09:01.007
David: The opposition
is being led by Robert LaBrant.
1401
01:09:01.842 --> 01:09:04.077
LaBrant gets his start
in politics working
1402
01:09:04.210 --> 01:09:05.445
for the Chamber of Commerce
1403
01:09:05.812 --> 01:09:09.482
and he is the maestro
of redistricting in Michigan.
1404
01:09:09.650 --> 01:09:11.918
As far as ballot questions
are concerned,
1405
01:09:12.052 --> 01:09:15.021
I've spent most of my summer
trying to work out
1406
01:09:15.188 --> 01:09:19.092
a legal strategy to get one
of the ballot question proposals
1407
01:09:19.225 --> 01:09:20.193
off the ballot.
1408
01:09:21.127 --> 01:09:24.097
David: LaBrant understood
before anybody else
1409
01:09:24.230 --> 01:09:28.168
just how crucial these
redistricting fights could be.
1410
01:09:28.301 --> 01:09:30.804
Every 10 years
we do redistricting in Michigan
1411
01:09:30.937 --> 01:09:33.640
and I've kind of made that
a kind of specialization.
1412
01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:44.250
Democrats tend to cluster in
urban cities
1413
01:09:44.651 --> 01:09:48.254
and Republicans are kind of
more evenly spread out.
1414
01:09:49.055 --> 01:09:51.825
In drawing district lines
based upon
1415
01:09:51.958 --> 01:09:54.494
traditional
redistricting criteria,
1416
01:09:54.661 --> 01:09:57.330
Democrats have a lot
of wasted votes.
1417
01:09:57.898 --> 01:09:59.833
I don't think that's
a direct result
1418
01:09:59.966 --> 01:10:03.436
of Republican gerrymandering,
it's just a fact of life.
1419
01:10:08.642 --> 01:10:11.044
David: The real intent
of LaBrant
1420
01:10:11.211 --> 01:10:13.346
and the other Republicans
in Michigan
1421
01:10:13.580 --> 01:10:16.082
was revealed
in a series of emails
1422
01:10:16.249 --> 01:10:19.553
exchanged between them during
the redistricting process
1423
01:10:19.686 --> 01:10:20.987
in 2011.
1424
01:10:41.441 --> 01:10:43.777
The emails show
that they gerrymandered
1425
01:10:43.910 --> 01:10:45.612
the state intentionally.
1426
01:11:05.131 --> 01:11:07.568
Nancy: So, for everyone
who doesn't know,
1427
01:11:07.701 --> 01:11:10.103
we've gotten sued officially.
1428
01:11:10.336 --> 01:11:13.507
Um, they have filed a suit
with the court of appeals
1429
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.209
saying that our petition touches
too many parts
1430
01:11:16.342 --> 01:11:17.477
of the constitution,
1431
01:11:17.844 --> 01:11:20.246
and so it's a wholesale revision
and not something
1432
01:11:20.380 --> 01:11:24.484
that's appropriate
for a ballot initiative.
1433
01:11:24.818 --> 01:11:27.487
Jeremy: Any time you want to
change something in Michigan,
1434
01:11:27.754 --> 01:11:31.324
any time you want to have
a citizen‐led effort
1435
01:11:31.457 --> 01:11:33.927
to take back control
over what's happening
1436
01:11:34.060 --> 01:11:35.195
in state government,
1437
01:11:35.328 --> 01:11:36.763
you better come
with a lot of money
1438
01:11:36.997 --> 01:11:39.800
because there's going to be
a lot of money on the opposition
1439
01:11:40.200 --> 01:11:43.103
funding their lawyers
to challenge everything.
1440
01:11:44.104 --> 01:11:47.473
This move is another one
of those fundamental things
1441
01:11:47.608 --> 01:11:49.209
that's wrong
with our democracy.
1442
01:11:49.342 --> 01:11:51.878
It's one of those things where,
like, it's not really right.
1443
01:11:52.012 --> 01:11:54.815
Like, we have the right
to petition our government,
1444
01:11:54.948 --> 01:11:56.983
and gather signatures,
and get it on the ballot,
1445
01:11:57.117 --> 01:12:00.153
and then they're trying
to do, like say that we can't.
1446
01:12:00.420 --> 01:12:01.988
Although we knew
we were going to get sued,
1447
01:12:02.122 --> 01:12:03.924
it's not right that we are.
1448
01:12:11.164 --> 01:12:13.767
Hey, everybody,
I wanted to do an update.
1449
01:12:13.900 --> 01:12:16.703
Normally I do this either
on a Facebook Live,
1450
01:12:16.837 --> 01:12:22.208
or with an interview group,
or a number of things.
1451
01:12:22.342 --> 01:12:27.514
You know, like an hour ago
I was feeling so good.
1452
01:12:27.648 --> 01:12:29.115
Point of pride
that I've always had
1453
01:12:29.249 --> 01:12:31.552
is that we've done things
the way that, like,
1454
01:12:31.685 --> 01:12:33.854
you hope that they're done.
Um...
1455
01:12:39.860 --> 01:12:41.795
I think that
with this court case
1456
01:12:41.928 --> 01:12:46.499
it's made it feel
really real that...
1457
01:12:59.846 --> 01:13:04.084
there's a lot of power out there
that controls a lot
1458
01:13:04.217 --> 01:13:06.620
of things that you don't get
to be in control over,
1459
01:13:06.753 --> 01:13:08.454
that you can try
and work as hard as you can,
1460
01:13:08.589 --> 01:13:09.956
but, you know,
1461
01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:12.893
a misplaced comma
or a word can throw things out.
1462
01:13:13.026 --> 01:13:16.262
And it feels really real
right now,
1463
01:13:16.462 --> 01:13:22.536
the pressure feels on,
um, because...
1464
01:13:30.376 --> 01:13:32.412
what if something does happen?
1465
01:13:34.047 --> 01:13:37.584
What if it's not possible
for a group of people
1466
01:13:37.718 --> 01:13:39.820
to band together and...
1467
01:13:41.988 --> 01:13:44.057
try as hard as they can and...
1468
01:13:45.759 --> 01:13:47.928
what if it still
doesn't matter?
1469
01:13:52.498 --> 01:13:54.535
I don't want to
disappoint anybody.
1470
01:14:00.406 --> 01:14:01.742
(clicking)
1471
01:14:05.478 --> 01:14:09.082
(traffic noise)
1472
01:14:10.917 --> 01:14:13.386
Reporter: The U. S. Supreme Court
will now decide
1473
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:17.223
whether the maps
that determine who you vote for
1474
01:14:17.390 --> 01:14:18.659
are constitutional.
1475
01:14:18.892 --> 01:14:21.094
Judy: The case on
partisan gerrymandering
1476
01:14:21.261 --> 01:14:24.330
has the potential
to reshape American politics
1477
01:14:24.464 --> 01:14:25.699
as we know it.
1478
01:14:29.636 --> 01:14:30.737
Hey, Peter.
1479
01:14:31.171 --> 01:14:32.205
Hello.
1480
01:14:32.806 --> 01:14:34.708
‐ Welcome.
‐ Good to see you guys.
1481
01:14:34.841 --> 01:14:36.142
Peter: Hey, welcome.
1482
01:14:36.276 --> 01:14:37.644
Ruth: Okay, we'll get
the lawyers in now.
1483
01:14:37.778 --> 01:14:38.679
Male speaker:
All right, lawyers.
1484
01:14:38.812 --> 01:14:39.613
Ruth: With you, with you.
1485
01:14:39.746 --> 01:14:40.914
Stay, stay, stay.
1486
01:14:41.214 --> 01:14:42.749
Photographer: One more,
look serious,
1487
01:14:42.883 --> 01:14:44.317
like you're trying
to save democracy.
1488
01:14:44.450 --> 01:14:45.619
(laughter)
1489
01:14:45.752 --> 01:14:47.654
This is what
democracy looks like.
1490
01:14:47.788 --> 01:14:49.155
(camera shutter clicks)
1491
01:14:51.525 --> 01:14:52.826
(camera clicks)
1492
01:14:53.093 --> 01:14:54.294
Ruth: It's a little weird
to have so much
1493
01:14:54.427 --> 01:14:55.696
of the world focusing on this.
1494
01:14:55.896 --> 01:14:57.731
I got woken up at 6:30
with my dad calling me
1495
01:14:57.898 --> 01:15:00.667
saying that he saw Nick,
my co‐counsel and husband,
1496
01:15:00.801 --> 01:15:03.604
on Australian TV
talking about the case.
1497
01:15:05.105 --> 01:15:07.340
We've had a countdown
on our whiteboard in Chicago.
1498
01:15:07.473 --> 01:15:09.109
Somebody rang me and was like,
"Oh, don't you have
1499
01:15:09.242 --> 01:15:10.844
a case in the next,
you know, few months?"
1500
01:15:10.977 --> 01:15:14.114
I was like, "It's in five days,
now it's four days."
1501
01:15:14.380 --> 01:15:15.381
Yeah, we're nearly there.
1502
01:15:15.682 --> 01:15:19.620
(indistinct chatter)
1503
01:15:21.087 --> 01:15:22.422
Paul: Um, so how about this?
1504
01:15:22.589 --> 01:15:23.790
As this case illustrated,
1505
01:15:23.924 --> 01:15:25.659
it's now possible to draw
a district map
1506
01:15:25.792 --> 01:15:27.694
that is so extremely
and durably biased
1507
01:15:27.828 --> 01:15:30.296
that democracy itself
is gravely compromised?
1508
01:15:31.264 --> 01:15:33.534
Nick: Paul is the
best possible person
1509
01:15:33.667 --> 01:15:34.935
in America to do this.
1510
01:15:35.401 --> 01:15:36.737
He is one of the country's
1511
01:15:36.870 --> 01:15:39.172
best respected
Supreme Court specialists
1512
01:15:39.740 --> 01:15:41.775
who also has
a particular expertise
1513
01:15:41.908 --> 01:15:44.010
in election law
and redistricting.
1514
01:15:44.144 --> 01:15:45.712
Paul: You look
at the first election,
1515
01:15:45.846 --> 01:15:46.947
you do sensitivity testing,
1516
01:15:47.080 --> 01:15:48.615
what does
the sensitivity testing
1517
01:15:48.749 --> 01:15:49.783
have to show?
1518
01:15:49.916 --> 01:15:51.652
Nick: For the Plaintiff to win?
1519
01:15:51.785 --> 01:15:53.019
‐ Yes.
‐ Nick: Uh...
1520
01:15:53.153 --> 01:15:55.155
That over a plausible range
of outcomes...
1521
01:15:55.288 --> 01:15:56.957
Paul: I think everybody
gets nervous before they argue
1522
01:15:57.090 --> 01:15:58.692
in the Supreme Court.
1523
01:15:58.825 --> 01:16:01.427
The most important thing
is to be extremely well prepared
1524
01:16:02.028 --> 01:16:03.864
and know what you're going
to say first.
1525
01:16:03.997 --> 01:16:05.799
Because once you start talking,
it's usually okay.
1526
01:16:05.932 --> 01:16:07.801
What you want to do is get
to the green light point,
1527
01:16:07.934 --> 01:16:09.570
which is basically, "This court
therefore has a choice,
1528
01:16:09.703 --> 01:16:11.237
either use the standards
we've given you
1529
01:16:11.371 --> 01:16:14.074
to limit this abusive practice,
or give a green light
1530
01:16:14.207 --> 01:16:16.109
to the gerrymanderers
to have at it."
1531
01:16:17.277 --> 01:16:20.180
‐ I like have at it. (laughs)
‐ I do too. (laughs)
1532
01:16:25.586 --> 01:16:27.588
Paul: We got very close
to winning the Vieth case,
1533
01:16:27.721 --> 01:16:29.055
as it became known.
1534
01:16:29.322 --> 01:16:32.392
We got four votes to say that
the map was unconstitutional.
1535
01:16:32.693 --> 01:16:34.127
There were four votes to say
1536
01:16:34.260 --> 01:16:35.896
that the issue
is a political question
1537
01:16:36.029 --> 01:16:37.531
that shouldn't be
in the courts at all.
1538
01:16:37.664 --> 01:16:39.533
That was the opinion written
by Justice Scalia.
1539
01:16:39.666 --> 01:16:40.601
Justice Scalia:
The basic problem
1540
01:16:40.734 --> 01:16:42.202
is that some degree
1541
01:16:42.368 --> 01:16:44.270
of political motivation
and affect in districting
1542
01:16:44.404 --> 01:16:46.139
is not unconstitutional.
1543
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:47.908
Paul: And then there
was Justice Kennedy,
1544
01:16:48.041 --> 01:16:49.710
who was in the middle.
1545
01:16:56.082 --> 01:16:58.852
Nick: Kennedy is telling
the legal community
1546
01:16:58.985 --> 01:17:00.521
and
the social science community,
1547
01:17:00.654 --> 01:17:02.122
you know, "I'm interested.
1548
01:17:02.255 --> 01:17:06.860
I'm willing to tackle
this undemocratic practice,
1549
01:17:06.993 --> 01:17:11.364
but I need some assurance
that there's a reliable,
1550
01:17:11.497 --> 01:17:12.799
workable test."
1551
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:15.168
And so at the moment
1552
01:17:15.536 --> 01:17:17.971
fighting partisan
gerrymandering in the courts
1553
01:17:18.104 --> 01:17:19.973
means coming up
with a standard
1554
01:17:20.106 --> 01:17:22.208
that would be persuasive
to Justice Kennedy.
1555
01:17:23.409 --> 01:17:25.712
Sachin: We could not
have done more to answer
1556
01:17:25.846 --> 01:17:27.881
that call for a standard.
1557
01:17:28.014 --> 01:17:30.350
To say, "This is the case,
if there's any case
1558
01:17:30.617 --> 01:17:32.018
in which you have
to draw the line
1559
01:17:32.152 --> 01:17:34.054
and say it's unconstitutional
and wrong."
1560
01:17:35.355 --> 01:17:38.124
(indistinct chatter)
1561
01:17:38.859 --> 01:17:40.961
Gerry: There are few times
in your life
1562
01:17:41.094 --> 01:17:42.763
when you get to particularly
be my age,
1563
01:17:42.996 --> 01:17:44.364
you look back and you say,
1564
01:17:44.497 --> 01:17:46.466
you know, "There were times
when I could have made
1565
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.069
a difference and did I step up
to the plate
1566
01:17:49.202 --> 01:17:51.371
and do what
I really needed to do
1567
01:17:51.538 --> 01:17:52.939
and have the courage to do it?"
1568
01:17:53.073 --> 01:17:55.542
And the plaintiffs
in this case
1569
01:17:55.809 --> 01:17:57.243
stood up for
what they believed in.
1570
01:17:57.477 --> 01:17:59.646
We are at a real crossroads
and I think the window
1571
01:17:59.780 --> 01:18:02.583
is going to close on whether
or not we can really bring about
1572
01:18:02.716 --> 01:18:03.884
this reform
1573
01:18:04.017 --> 01:18:05.919
if we don't get it done
in this case.
1574
01:18:09.690 --> 01:18:11.457
Reporter: All eyes will be
on the U. S. Supreme Court
1575
01:18:11.592 --> 01:18:14.227
as it hears a Wisconsin case
challenging the way
1576
01:18:14.360 --> 01:18:16.863
the state's legislative
districts are drawn.
1577
01:18:16.997 --> 01:18:18.464
Reporter 2:
The legal question is,
1578
01:18:18.599 --> 01:18:20.801
can we even measure this?
Should we get into it?
1579
01:18:20.967 --> 01:18:23.837
Is this a political question
that we should stay out of?
1580
01:18:24.270 --> 01:18:28.008
And can we define
what's extreme gerrymandering?
1581
01:18:28.208 --> 01:18:29.843
‐ Woman: Rise up!
‐ Protesters: Fight back!
1582
01:18:29.976 --> 01:18:33.446
‐ Woman: Rise up!
‐ Protesters: Fight back!
1583
01:18:33.580 --> 01:18:35.315
It's a fixed system.
1584
01:18:35.549 --> 01:18:37.618
It's a fixed system,
that's what gerrymandering
1585
01:18:37.751 --> 01:18:38.985
is all about.
1586
01:18:39.185 --> 01:18:41.421
Congress will never, ever fix
this problem
1587
01:18:41.688 --> 01:18:44.157
because they have one interest
and one interest only
1588
01:18:44.290 --> 01:18:46.059
and this is to stay in power.
1589
01:18:48.629 --> 01:18:51.031
Paul: Mr. Chief Justice
and may it please the court,
1590
01:18:51.397 --> 01:18:53.967
what the state is asking
for here is a free pass
1591
01:18:54.100 --> 01:18:55.836
to continue using
an assembly map
1592
01:18:55.969 --> 01:18:57.303
that is so extreme
1593
01:18:57.503 --> 01:18:59.439
that it effectively
nullifies democracy.
1594
01:18:59.573 --> 01:19:03.176
(text being read)
1595
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:56.096
Paul: Hi, everyone,
I'm Paul Smith,
1596
01:19:56.229 --> 01:19:59.265
I argued the case this morning
for the plaintiffs
1597
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:00.333
from Wisconsin.
1598
01:20:00.734 --> 01:20:04.538
We hope that the court
will see its way clear to say
1599
01:20:04.671 --> 01:20:07.107
this is not only
a constitutional violation,
1600
01:20:07.240 --> 01:20:09.610
it's a constitutional violation
for which there is
1601
01:20:09.743 --> 01:20:12.278
a meaningful judicial remedy.
1602
01:20:15.115 --> 01:20:16.617
Paul: One thing I don't do
is come out in front
1603
01:20:16.750 --> 01:20:18.952
of a bunch of cameras
and predict Justice's votes,
1604
01:20:19.085 --> 01:20:21.755
but I do think he understood
our position
1605
01:20:21.888 --> 01:20:23.123
and that he seems
quite concerned
1606
01:20:23.256 --> 01:20:25.425
about where
the country is right now.
1607
01:20:25.759 --> 01:20:26.827
Thank you, everybody.
1608
01:20:27.393 --> 01:20:28.762
Ruth: There were
some great lines,
1609
01:20:28.895 --> 01:20:29.863
did you think of them yesterday?
1610
01:20:29.996 --> 01:20:31.197
Just real zingers.
1611
01:20:31.331 --> 01:20:33.066
Like the festival
of gerrymandering
1612
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.435
the likes of which
we have never seen.
1613
01:20:39.205 --> 01:20:41.207
Doug: Well you heard
Justice Sotomayor's comments,
1614
01:20:41.341 --> 01:20:43.910
you know, I mean you did this,
and then you did this,
1615
01:20:44.077 --> 01:20:45.712
and then you did this
to really ratchet up
1616
01:20:45.846 --> 01:20:47.080
the representation.
1617
01:20:47.213 --> 01:20:48.615
That was all based on
the spreadsheets
1618
01:20:48.749 --> 01:20:50.751
that you had recovered
for us on the hard drives.
1619
01:20:51.184 --> 01:20:54.020
I'm glad it worked out,
fingers crossed, we'll see.
1620
01:20:54.154 --> 01:21:01.127
(cheering and applause)
1621
01:21:04.364 --> 01:21:07.333
I do want to say
that you get to be a star
1622
01:21:07.467 --> 01:21:09.903
of the day one day
if you're a Supreme Court guy.
1623
01:21:10.070 --> 01:21:12.573
But the case is made
in the trenches
1624
01:21:12.739 --> 01:21:17.177
and this case was really made
with all of you,
1625
01:21:17.310 --> 01:21:18.845
the plaintiffs, the lawyers.
1626
01:21:18.979 --> 01:21:20.313
If we didn't have
that foundation,
1627
01:21:20.446 --> 01:21:21.948
we wouldn't have been
in the Supreme Court.
1628
01:21:22.082 --> 01:21:24.651
So hope springs,
we're going to do it.
1629
01:21:24.785 --> 01:21:25.852
Thank you, everybody.
1630
01:21:25.986 --> 01:21:29.756
(applause)
1631
01:21:29.890 --> 01:21:31.858
(laughs)
1632
01:21:31.992 --> 01:21:34.861
Peter: We have brought together
some of the best minds
1633
01:21:35.061 --> 01:21:36.763
in the legal community...
1634
01:21:37.463 --> 01:21:39.465
and we have studied,
so carefully,
1635
01:21:39.700 --> 01:21:42.102
the Supreme Court's
jurisprudence on this question
1636
01:21:42.235 --> 01:21:43.537
and built an evidentiary record
1637
01:21:43.670 --> 01:21:47.641
that is so complete
that I'm confident
1638
01:21:47.774 --> 01:21:48.909
we're going to win,
1639
01:21:49.075 --> 01:21:50.210
I'm confident
we're going to win.
1640
01:21:50.711 --> 01:21:53.647
I'll tell you, the future
of our democracy depends on it.
1641
01:21:57.117 --> 01:22:04.290
(engines revving)
1642
01:22:06.492 --> 01:22:08.028
Ruth: Here we go,
somebody says,
1643
01:22:08.228 --> 01:22:09.495
"Is there any chance
of the gerrymandering cases
1644
01:22:09.630 --> 01:22:10.597
being decided today?"
1645
01:22:10.731 --> 01:22:11.898
Of course there is.
1646
01:22:12.098 --> 01:22:13.834
I mean, so I think
we're mentally prepared
1647
01:22:14.067 --> 01:22:15.736
for a win,
obviously it's fantastic, right?
1648
01:22:15.869 --> 01:22:18.605
But we've talked over
the loss like so many times
1649
01:22:18.739 --> 01:22:21.174
that I think we're prepared
if that happens.
1650
01:22:21.708 --> 01:22:22.809
9:00 o'clock sharp.
1651
01:22:22.943 --> 01:22:24.377
Ruth: Okay, come on.
1652
01:22:27.614 --> 01:22:30.283
Nick: Last decision,
Washington v. United Sates?
1653
01:22:30.684 --> 01:22:32.285
What's
Washington v. United States?
1654
01:22:32.418 --> 01:22:33.954
Ruth: I don't know,
but that means it's not us.
1655
01:22:34.154 --> 01:22:35.155
All right.
1656
01:22:35.321 --> 01:22:36.422
Ruth: (sighs) We can relax.
1657
01:22:36.557 --> 01:22:38.291
Okay, I bet it's next Monday.
1658
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:41.327
I don't know why I'm so calm
now that I think about it,
1659
01:22:41.461 --> 01:22:43.463
it's going to be very
stressful if it comes.
1660
01:22:43.797 --> 01:22:44.998
I just think it's not.
1661
01:22:45.165 --> 01:22:46.733
I just had a very detailed dream
that like,
1662
01:22:46.867 --> 01:22:49.970
Roberts announced the opinion,
just like, you know,
1663
01:22:50.103 --> 01:22:51.605
went after us on standing.
1664
01:22:51.872 --> 01:22:54.541
Like ruled against us
on every single possible issue.
1665
01:22:54.675 --> 01:22:56.442
Ruth: I think it's called
a nightmare, Nick.
1666
01:22:58.278 --> 01:23:00.313
Second Minnesota
Voters Alliance.
1667
01:23:00.446 --> 01:23:02.816
Oh, Mansky is reversed
and remanded.
1668
01:23:02.983 --> 01:23:04.217
Nick: Is that it?
1669
01:23:04.484 --> 01:23:05.418
Second and final opinion,
oh yeah, we're done.
1670
01:23:05.552 --> 01:23:06.920
‐ (sighs)
‐ Woo‐hoo!
1671
01:23:07.053 --> 01:23:08.121
‐ Not today.
‐ Nick: That's a wrap.
1672
01:23:08.254 --> 01:23:09.455
(all chuckle)
1673
01:23:16.096 --> 01:23:18.264
(groans)
1674
01:23:18.398 --> 01:23:19.600
Nick: Need more coffee.
1675
01:23:19.733 --> 01:23:21.334
(laughs)
1676
01:23:21.802 --> 01:23:22.869
I bet this is happening.
1677
01:23:23.036 --> 01:23:24.504
Ruth: Ah! Don't freak me out.
1678
01:23:25.471 --> 01:23:27.508
But I'm excited, but I'm scared,
but I'm excited.
1679
01:23:27.708 --> 01:23:29.976
Is Annabelle coming here
if there's a decision, just now?
1680
01:23:30.110 --> 01:23:32.112
‐ Ruth: Mm‐hmm.
‐ All right.
1681
01:23:33.847 --> 01:23:36.617
Oh my God, it's our case,
oh my God,
1682
01:23:36.750 --> 01:23:38.451
it's Gill
from the Chief Justice.
1683
01:23:38.585 --> 01:23:40.854
Holy shit, oh my God, look.
1684
01:23:40.987 --> 01:23:42.956
(barking)
1685
01:23:43.089 --> 01:23:44.490
Look.
1686
01:23:45.959 --> 01:23:48.094
‐ (panting)
‐ (barking)
1687
01:23:48.228 --> 01:23:49.462
Quiet.
1688
01:23:50.096 --> 01:23:51.532
Holy shit, it's ours.
1689
01:23:52.398 --> 01:23:54.034
Oh my God,
I'm going to be sick.
1690
01:23:54.167 --> 01:23:55.435
It is Gill, it is Roberts.
1691
01:23:55.769 --> 01:23:57.203
‐ F‐‐‐, why is it Roberts?
‐ What is it? What is it?
1692
01:23:57.337 --> 01:23:58.605
Ruth: Okay,
it's here, it's here.
1693
01:24:00.006 --> 01:24:01.975
Reporter: You know the decision
is long and complex,
1694
01:24:02.108 --> 01:24:04.010
but a quick read of it tells me
that essentially
1695
01:24:04.177 --> 01:24:06.647
what the court has said
is that these plaintiffs
1696
01:24:06.780 --> 01:24:09.683
did not prove
that they had standing
1697
01:24:09.916 --> 01:24:12.786
and individualized harm
to bring the case.
1698
01:24:12.919 --> 01:24:15.556
This morning,
the Supreme Court not ruling
1699
01:24:15.689 --> 01:24:18.959
on partisan gerrymandering,
not putting forth a test
1700
01:24:19.092 --> 01:24:20.293
as to when to determine
1701
01:24:20.426 --> 01:24:22.462
there has been
partisan gerrymandering,
1702
01:24:22.596 --> 01:24:25.365
and really sort of punting
this issue for another day.
1703
01:24:25.566 --> 01:24:26.900
‐ Ruth: No!
‐ F‐‐‐ you.
1704
01:24:27.167 --> 01:24:28.334
F‐‐‐ you.
1705
01:24:28.669 --> 01:24:31.371
"Failed to demonstrate
Article 3 standing."
1706
01:24:31.672 --> 01:24:32.906
F‐‐‐, damn them.
1707
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:35.642
Really, like that's
your f‐‐‐ing decision ground?
1708
01:24:36.442 --> 01:24:38.444
Reporter: Now
the Supreme Court did say
1709
01:24:38.579 --> 01:24:40.480
that the challengers
can try again
1710
01:24:40.614 --> 01:24:42.048
to see if they can overcome
1711
01:24:42.182 --> 01:24:43.449
the legal obstacle
of getting through
1712
01:24:43.584 --> 01:24:45.285
the courthouse door
achieving standing,
1713
01:24:45.418 --> 01:24:47.353
showing that they have
a particular injury
1714
01:24:47.487 --> 01:24:49.556
and this case does go back
to the lower courts.
1715
01:24:49.690 --> 01:24:51.992
Oh, wait, so it is
vacated and remanded.
1716
01:24:52.358 --> 01:24:53.493
Oh, it is vacated and remanded?
1717
01:24:53.627 --> 01:24:54.828
Yeah, to go back, let's see.
1718
01:24:54.961 --> 01:24:56.162
Oh, wait.
1719
01:24:56.563 --> 01:24:57.931
Nick: We might be still alive,
it might be that like,
1720
01:24:58.064 --> 01:25:00.233
"Okay, you have to go back
and technically like get
1721
01:25:00.366 --> 01:25:02.836
some more plaintiffs
with some more allegations."
1722
01:25:06.339 --> 01:25:07.874
Barak: So, did you win or lose?
1723
01:25:08.008 --> 01:25:10.911
So, the court says that
in order to pursue a claim
1724
01:25:11.044 --> 01:25:14.548
like ours, you need
to identify specific people,
1725
01:25:14.681 --> 01:25:19.052
specific voters who live
in cracked or packed districts.
1726
01:25:19.219 --> 01:25:22.155
It's not enough
to just assert exclusively
1727
01:25:22.288 --> 01:25:24.357
a statewide harm
or a statewide injury.
1728
01:25:24.490 --> 01:25:26.527
We have some plaintiffs
ready to go,
1729
01:25:26.660 --> 01:25:28.328
we are ready
to amend our complaint,
1730
01:25:28.461 --> 01:25:29.730
and move forward.
1731
01:25:29.863 --> 01:25:32.098
So it's not, I mean,
it's not a disaster,
1732
01:25:32.232 --> 01:25:33.667
it's just frustrating
timewise.
1733
01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:35.068
Barak: I can't tell,
are you disappointed,
1734
01:25:35.201 --> 01:25:36.369
are you not disappointed?
1735
01:25:36.502 --> 01:25:38.238
This is far
from the worst scenario.
1736
01:25:38.371 --> 01:25:40.240
Yes, I mean, it's frustrating
because we want
1737
01:25:40.373 --> 01:25:41.642
to just win, right?
1738
01:25:41.775 --> 01:25:43.076
Obviously, we want
to just freaking win.
1739
01:25:43.209 --> 01:25:45.245
But it's not a loss, right?
1740
01:25:45.411 --> 01:25:46.880
I mean we haven't lost,
we're still going,
1741
01:25:47.080 --> 01:25:48.549
we still have things to say,
and it suggests we're going
1742
01:25:48.682 --> 01:25:50.150
to eventually win,
which is a good sign.
1743
01:25:50.283 --> 01:25:51.585
Yeah, I would say, too,
that like, you know,
1744
01:25:51.718 --> 01:25:53.820
before today, my estimate
of our odds
1745
01:25:53.987 --> 01:25:56.557
of ultimately winning
was below 50 percent.
1746
01:25:56.690 --> 01:25:58.458
Now I think it's above
50 percent
1747
01:25:58.592 --> 01:26:00.193
our odds of ultimately winning.
1748
01:26:03.229 --> 01:26:04.731
Reporter: We continue to follow
1749
01:26:04.865 --> 01:26:06.800
that bombshell announcement
out of Washington.
1750
01:26:07.033 --> 01:26:10.036
Supreme Court Justice
Anthony Kennedy is retiring.
1751
01:26:10.170 --> 01:26:12.773
The 81‐year‐old was nominated
by President Reagan
1752
01:26:12.906 --> 01:26:14.508
and served
on the country's highest court
1753
01:26:14.641 --> 01:26:16.409
for more than 30 years.
1754
01:26:17.844 --> 01:26:20.213
Ari: There is really no way
to sugar coat it.
1755
01:26:20.514 --> 01:26:22.082
The retirement
of Anthony Kennedy
1756
01:26:22.215 --> 01:26:23.884
was terrible news
for those people
1757
01:26:24.017 --> 01:26:26.820
that wanted to see
the court do something positive
1758
01:26:27.053 --> 01:26:28.121
on gerrymandering.
1759
01:26:28.321 --> 01:26:30.490
He was the only
conservative justice
1760
01:26:30.757 --> 01:26:32.526
that was at least open minded
1761
01:26:32.726 --> 01:26:34.895
about finding a solution
on this issue
1762
01:26:35.028 --> 01:26:35.962
and now he is gone.
1763
01:26:37.197 --> 01:26:39.733
David: It is now obvious
that the Supreme Court
1764
01:26:39.866 --> 01:26:42.502
is not going to be our savior
on partisan gerrymandering.
1765
01:26:42.636 --> 01:26:45.639
We may have to be
our own saviors.
1766
01:26:46.106 --> 01:26:49.409
People are trying to take back
these district lines
1767
01:26:49.543 --> 01:26:51.177
that have been rigged
against them.
1768
01:26:51.444 --> 01:26:54.347
They want a fair playing field.
1769
01:26:59.853 --> 01:27:02.856
The hope lies now
at the state level.
1770
01:27:03.156 --> 01:27:07.093
We are seeing around
the country, Michigan, Utah,
1771
01:27:07.227 --> 01:27:12.432
Colorado, Ohio, Missouri,
there are citizen pathways
1772
01:27:12.566 --> 01:27:14.267
moving forward.
1773
01:27:14.568 --> 01:27:16.202
These are red states,
these are blue states,
1774
01:27:16.336 --> 01:27:17.604
these are purple states.
1775
01:27:17.804 --> 01:27:19.305
These are states
that went for Trump,
1776
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:21.307
these are states
that went for Clinton.
1777
01:27:21.875 --> 01:27:25.846
This is going to be
the battlefield moving forward.
1778
01:27:31.785 --> 01:27:33.587
Reporter:
The Michigan Supreme Court
1779
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:36.356
is about to have
a political hot mess
1780
01:27:36.489 --> 01:27:37.691
dumped on its lap.
1781
01:27:37.924 --> 01:27:39.593
Reporter 2:
The Michigan Court of Appeals
1782
01:27:39.726 --> 01:27:41.828
said the ballot question meets
the legal requirements
1783
01:27:42.028 --> 01:27:44.464
and the voters should decide
in November.
1784
01:27:44.598 --> 01:27:46.366
Reporter 3: But the challengers
now plan
1785
01:27:46.499 --> 01:27:48.702
to go to
the state Supreme Court.
1786
01:27:56.442 --> 01:27:58.111
‐ Katie: Hey.
‐ How are you doing?
1787
01:27:58.278 --> 01:27:59.445
Good, how are you?
1788
01:27:59.613 --> 01:28:00.881
Good, do you mind
if I chat with you
1789
01:28:01.014 --> 01:28:02.482
‐ for a few minutes?
‐ Katie: No, not at all.
1790
01:28:02.616 --> 01:28:03.984
Reporter: Great, so how
do you feel about today?
1791
01:28:04.117 --> 01:28:05.218
Katie: We feel good.
1792
01:28:05.351 --> 01:28:06.219
You know,
it's exciting to be here
1793
01:28:06.352 --> 01:28:07.521
at the Hall of Justice.
1794
01:28:07.821 --> 01:28:09.389
We had a really strong
Court of Appeals opinion,
1795
01:28:09.523 --> 01:28:11.491
3‐0 decision saying
our opposition's case
1796
01:28:11.625 --> 01:28:13.560
is without merit
and we have every confidence
1797
01:28:13.694 --> 01:28:16.062
that we'll remain on the ballot
on November 6th.
1798
01:28:18.532 --> 01:28:21.868
I remember distinctly when
we were doing our town halls
1799
01:28:22.068 --> 01:28:24.037
that one of the top questions
I received was,
1800
01:28:24.170 --> 01:28:25.772
isn't it impossible
to do this?
1801
01:28:25.939 --> 01:28:27.407
Like, isn't it‐‐ Aren't you
going to get challenged
1802
01:28:27.541 --> 01:28:28.742
by the Supreme Court anyways?
1803
01:28:28.875 --> 01:28:30.076
So, we don't even have
language yet,
1804
01:28:30.210 --> 01:28:31.344
we haven't like whatever,
1805
01:28:31.477 --> 01:28:32.713
and like the people
of Michigan
1806
01:28:32.846 --> 01:28:34.380
were already really worried
about that
1807
01:28:34.515 --> 01:28:36.717
because we consistently
have seen
1808
01:28:37.150 --> 01:28:40.053
opposition wanting
to undermine this process.
1809
01:28:40.186 --> 01:28:41.522
Good morning.
1810
01:28:41.855 --> 01:28:43.890
This is a special session
of the Michigan Supreme Court
1811
01:28:44.057 --> 01:28:46.593
to address
an emergency election matter.
1812
01:28:47.861 --> 01:28:50.296
Katie: The scary part is that
the Michigan Supreme Court
1813
01:28:50.463 --> 01:28:51.865
is a political body.
1814
01:28:52.132 --> 01:28:55.035
Our judges get nominated
from political parties.
1815
01:28:55.468 --> 01:28:58.572
Five of them were nominated
from the Republicans
1816
01:28:58.905 --> 01:29:01.474
and two of them came
from the Democrat side.
1817
01:29:02.175 --> 01:29:04.978
We know that the Michigan GOP
is applying a lot of pressure
1818
01:29:05.111 --> 01:29:07.648
to let them know how they
would like them to rule.
1819
01:29:08.148 --> 01:29:10.250
VNP Lawyer: The constitution
is very clear
1820
01:29:10.383 --> 01:29:13.654
that the people are the source
of all governmental power
1821
01:29:13.787 --> 01:29:16.623
and they have the ability
to define how the government
1822
01:29:16.757 --> 01:29:18.058
is going to be set up.
1823
01:29:18.324 --> 01:29:20.293
Judge: At the expense
of the people having their right
1824
01:29:20.426 --> 01:29:22.128
to elect representatives
as they've done
1825
01:29:22.262 --> 01:29:23.597
for two generations.
1826
01:29:24.064 --> 01:29:25.566
VNP Lawyer: I don't believe
this infringes that
1827
01:29:25.699 --> 01:29:26.933
whatsoever, Your Honor.
1828
01:29:27.067 --> 01:29:30.103
It substitutes 13 citizens
chosen at random
1829
01:29:30.403 --> 01:29:33.674
across this state in place
of a process in which
1830
01:29:33.807 --> 01:29:36.843
10 million people
have a direct participation
1831
01:29:37.010 --> 01:29:39.379
in the process by electing
their representatives
1832
01:29:39.513 --> 01:29:40.647
and senators.
1833
01:29:40.781 --> 01:29:42.716
Is that not
somewhat consequential?
1834
01:29:42.916 --> 01:29:44.818
I suppose the question
is whether they decide
1835
01:29:45.018 --> 01:29:47.287
that they want the legislature
to have this power,
1836
01:29:47.420 --> 01:29:48.589
or a commission,
1837
01:29:48.722 --> 01:29:49.990
or to do it
in some other fashion?
1838
01:29:50.123 --> 01:29:53.259
All power in our state
and in our nation
1839
01:29:53.393 --> 01:29:55.028
is derived
from the people, right?
1840
01:29:56.129 --> 01:29:58.164
Judge: Are there
any further questions?
1841
01:29:58.298 --> 01:29:59.900
We stand adjourned.
1842
01:30:02.803 --> 01:30:04.270
Katie: Yeah, sounds great.
1843
01:30:04.838 --> 01:30:06.206
Reporter: How are you doing?
1844
01:30:06.339 --> 01:30:07.307
Logged a big day, eh?
1845
01:30:07.440 --> 01:30:08.374
Yeah.
1846
01:30:08.509 --> 01:30:09.442
Let's go here with the people...
1847
01:30:09.576 --> 01:30:10.677
Katie: Okay, sounds good.
1848
01:30:10.811 --> 01:30:11.712
So this is really
a fight against
1849
01:30:11.845 --> 01:30:13.113
status quo and change?
1850
01:30:13.580 --> 01:30:14.715
I believe it is.
1851
01:30:15.148 --> 01:30:16.583
Actually, I think it's a fight
about whether the people
1852
01:30:16.717 --> 01:30:18.018
of Michigan can be trusted
1853
01:30:18.151 --> 01:30:19.620
to amend own constitution
or not.
1854
01:30:19.753 --> 01:30:22.488
I feel like we
were fairly heard,
1855
01:30:22.623 --> 01:30:24.357
and that we left it
on the table,
1856
01:30:24.525 --> 01:30:29.530
and I think that what I heard
was that our constitution
1857
01:30:30.196 --> 01:30:33.600
is enshrined in letting
the people of our state
1858
01:30:33.734 --> 01:30:35.235
decide these issues.
1859
01:30:35.536 --> 01:30:36.803
Thanks, guys.
1860
01:30:46.980 --> 01:30:49.850
‐ (woman speaking)
‐ (Katie speaking)
1861
01:30:50.250 --> 01:30:51.618
Sit down, sit down.
1862
01:30:51.752 --> 01:30:54.220
Oh my God, Jenny, calm down.
1863
01:31:01.294 --> 01:31:04.464
(exclaiming, crying)
1864
01:31:14.575 --> 01:31:16.076
We have an election to win.
1865
01:31:16.276 --> 01:31:18.679
We know that our opposition
now knows that we are an army
1866
01:31:18.812 --> 01:31:21.815
and that we can apply pressure
in ways that they can't.
1867
01:31:21.948 --> 01:31:23.917
It is time to make it
so that we get
1868
01:31:24.050 --> 01:31:26.319
way over two million votes
for voting yes
1869
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:28.021
and so that people know what
1870
01:31:28.154 --> 01:31:30.356
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
1871
01:31:30.490 --> 01:31:31.725
can mean for Michigan.
1872
01:31:31.892 --> 01:31:34.460
It is time to knock some doors.
1873
01:31:34.828 --> 01:31:37.397
Canvasser: Good morning,
I'm a volunteer
1874
01:31:37.531 --> 01:31:39.733
from Voters Not Politicians.
1875
01:31:39.933 --> 01:31:43.904
Hi, we're volunteers
with Voters Not Politicians.
1876
01:31:44.204 --> 01:31:47.073
(knocking)
1877
01:31:47.307 --> 01:31:49.743
Arnold: I want to congratulate
the people of Michigan
1878
01:31:50.076 --> 01:31:52.278
for the great choice
and the great vote
1879
01:31:52.412 --> 01:31:53.947
of the Supreme Court.
1880
01:31:54.280 --> 01:31:57.083
So that the people move
forward with the initiative
1881
01:31:57.350 --> 01:31:59.853
and to have redistricting
happening in Michigan
1882
01:32:00.020 --> 01:32:02.789
because it's the voters
versus the politicians,
1883
01:32:02.923 --> 01:32:04.057
that's what this is all about.
1884
01:32:04.190 --> 01:32:06.092
We've got to go
and vote for the voters,
1885
01:32:06.226 --> 01:32:07.260
not the politicians.
1886
01:32:07.493 --> 01:32:10.230
(laughing) That's awesome. What?
1887
01:32:13.266 --> 01:32:15.001
Reporter: Proposal 2
is on the ballot,
1888
01:32:15.135 --> 01:32:17.671
Katie Fahey is supporting
the proposal
1889
01:32:17.838 --> 01:32:19.706
and of course conservative
Republican Jamie Roe
1890
01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:21.007
doesn't like it at all.
1891
01:32:21.141 --> 01:32:23.376
Democrats lose races
in this state
1892
01:32:23.510 --> 01:32:24.645
because they have
bad candidates,
1893
01:32:24.778 --> 01:32:26.479
not because we have bad lines.
1894
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:30.617
This is an unnecessary solution
to a problem that doesn't exist.
1895
01:32:30.751 --> 01:32:32.919
The people who draw the lines
now are accountable to each
1896
01:32:33.053 --> 01:32:35.188
and every one of us
at the ballot box,
1897
01:32:35.321 --> 01:32:36.557
the 13‐member star chamber
1898
01:32:36.690 --> 01:32:38.258
is going to be accountable
to nobody.
1899
01:32:38.391 --> 01:32:40.326
Opposition ad: Proposal 2,
deal breaker number one.
1900
01:32:40.460 --> 01:32:43.196
Proposal 2 gives 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1901
01:32:43.329 --> 01:32:45.566
absolute authority
in your constitution.
1902
01:32:45.699 --> 01:32:48.769
Proposal 2 lets 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1903
01:32:48.902 --> 01:32:51.404
vote themselves unlimited pay
and unlimited perks.
1904
01:32:51.538 --> 01:32:53.907
Convicted felons can
be picked as commissioners.
1905
01:32:54.040 --> 01:32:55.909
It's 3,200 words.
1906
01:32:56.076 --> 01:32:58.745
Vote no on 2
or the joke's on you.
1907
01:33:00.146 --> 01:33:02.148
Katie: Something that is
super bothering me right now
1908
01:33:02.348 --> 01:33:04.918
is that robo‐call they did
from "Katie" urging them
1909
01:33:05.051 --> 01:33:07.120
to vote no on Prop 2 and 3.
1910
01:33:07.253 --> 01:33:10.123
Like there is no way you
just chose Katie out of a hat.
1911
01:33:10.490 --> 01:33:11.491
Jerks.
1912
01:33:11.725 --> 01:33:13.093
I'm tired.
1913
01:33:13.293 --> 01:33:14.595
(laughs)
1914
01:33:31.612 --> 01:33:38.719
(engines revving)
1915
01:33:41.588 --> 01:33:48.695
(traffic sounds)
1916
01:33:50.196 --> 01:33:52.298
Reporter: You are looking live
at democracy in action.
1917
01:33:52.498 --> 01:33:55.368
We're seeing huge numbers
of voters showing up today
1918
01:33:55.501 --> 01:33:56.803
at the polls.
1919
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:01.842
Katie: Are there door hangers
for today, we got asked.
1920
01:34:01.975 --> 01:34:03.143
They're here.
1921
01:34:03.409 --> 01:34:04.410
Katie: Aren't those
the same door hangers
1922
01:34:04.545 --> 01:34:05.812
we have been using?
1923
01:34:05.946 --> 01:34:07.113
VNP Volunteer: No,
it says, "vote today".
1924
01:34:07.247 --> 01:34:08.982
Katie: Oh, it does?
(gasps) Cute.
1925
01:34:10.450 --> 01:34:11.852
Reporter: So much more
1926
01:34:11.985 --> 01:34:13.353
than just candidates
on the ballot today,
1927
01:34:13.486 --> 01:34:14.955
we're taking a look
at three proposals
1928
01:34:15.088 --> 01:34:16.389
that could drastically change
1929
01:34:16.523 --> 01:34:18.058
what it means
to be a Michigan voter.
1930
01:34:18.458 --> 01:34:19.993
Reporter 2: Proposal 2
would create
1931
01:34:20.126 --> 01:34:21.662
an independent commission
1932
01:34:21.795 --> 01:34:23.997
to draw new legislative
and congressional districts
1933
01:34:24.130 --> 01:34:25.431
after each census.
1934
01:34:25.566 --> 01:34:27.568
Got some info on Prop 2
ending gerrymandering
1935
01:34:27.701 --> 01:34:28.735
in our state.
1936
01:34:28.902 --> 01:34:30.303
Thank you for voting.
1937
01:34:31.271 --> 01:34:32.272
Yeah.
1938
01:34:34.307 --> 01:34:36.209
Reporter: It's coming down
to the wire.
1939
01:34:36.342 --> 01:34:38.278
Reporter 2: About an hour left
to go before the polls close
1940
01:34:38.444 --> 01:34:40.981
across the state of Michigan
in these crucial
1941
01:34:41.114 --> 01:34:42.448
midterm elections.
1942
01:34:42.583 --> 01:34:43.650
Thank you.
1943
01:34:44.017 --> 01:34:45.586
‐ Volunteer: 8:01.
‐ 8:01.
1944
01:34:45.719 --> 01:34:46.920
Okay.
1945
01:34:47.087 --> 01:34:49.055
That's it,
there's nothing else we can do.
1946
01:34:49.189 --> 01:34:51.091
We've done everything we can do.
1947
01:34:57.330 --> 01:35:00.133
Volunteer: It's almost
10:00 p. m. and you guys are,
1948
01:35:00.266 --> 01:35:04.671
it's only 11‐ish percent
reporting but you're up by...
1949
01:35:04.838 --> 01:35:06.072
Nine, only nine.
1950
01:35:06.206 --> 01:35:07.774
That doesn't make
me feel good.
1951
01:35:08.074 --> 01:35:10.110
I think, I wish
we were winning by more.
1952
01:35:10.243 --> 01:35:11.311
(laughs)
1953
01:35:11.545 --> 01:35:13.246
Just so I feel a little better,
but you know what?
1954
01:35:13.379 --> 01:35:14.114
That's okay.
1955
01:35:14.247 --> 01:35:15.616
I wish they would just be done.
1956
01:35:15.749 --> 01:35:16.850
Are you also
preparing the we lost?
1957
01:35:16.983 --> 01:35:18.351
Is there a good
gift for that too?
1958
01:35:18.484 --> 01:35:20.020
We lost, oh...
1959
01:35:20.153 --> 01:35:21.522
Reporter: Just taking
a look now at some
1960
01:35:21.655 --> 01:35:23.256
of the election results
still coming in right now.
1961
01:35:23.423 --> 01:35:24.791
Proposal 2 would
change the way
1962
01:35:24.925 --> 01:35:26.292
Michigan draws
its state house,
1963
01:35:26.426 --> 01:35:28.294
state senate,
and congressional districts.
1964
01:35:28.629 --> 01:35:31.231
And right now
the yes votes are well ahead.
1965
01:35:31.431 --> 01:35:33.033
Jamie: Do they call
the proposals
1966
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:34.701
later than they call candidates?
1967
01:35:34.835 --> 01:35:36.269
Who calls it?
1968
01:35:36.537 --> 01:35:37.738
Who are we waiting for?
1969
01:35:38.438 --> 01:35:40.306
Now that some
of the results are coming in,
1970
01:35:40.440 --> 01:35:42.509
I'm like, "Yeah, okay.
1971
01:35:42.943 --> 01:35:45.979
Okay, maybe, maybe,
maybe, maybe."
1972
01:35:48.481 --> 01:35:49.516
Katie: Who said it?
1973
01:35:50.551 --> 01:35:51.985
A bunch of news articles.
1974
01:35:52.118 --> 01:35:54.621
Katie: No, Elizabeth, you
believed in us
1975
01:35:54.755 --> 01:35:56.489
before like almost anybody did.
1976
01:35:56.857 --> 01:36:03.797
(cheering)
1977
01:36:04.698 --> 01:36:09.502
(cheering)
1978
01:36:09.836 --> 01:36:12.005
I just got told we called it.
1979
01:36:12.405 --> 01:36:15.375
Way to fucking change
the Michigan constitution.
1980
01:36:15.542 --> 01:36:16.943
How am I not crying?
1981
01:36:17.077 --> 01:36:19.880
How are you guys, I cry
all the time, you never cry.
1982
01:36:20.514 --> 01:36:22.215
Come here. Come here.
1983
01:36:23.349 --> 01:36:26.052
Aww. Okay, okay,
we should say something.
1984
01:36:26.186 --> 01:36:28.589
I feel like
we should say something.
1985
01:36:28.722 --> 01:36:30.524
Hey, guys, we won!
1986
01:36:30.657 --> 01:36:35.962
(cheering)
1987
01:36:36.296 --> 01:36:39.700
We f‐‐‐ing amended
the state constitution.
1988
01:36:40.300 --> 01:36:43.469
Okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay.
1989
01:36:43.604 --> 01:36:45.606
I can't breathe, Kelly.
1990
01:36:45.739 --> 01:36:49.375
(cheering)
1991
01:36:53.146 --> 01:36:56.249
All political power
is inherent in the people!
1992
01:37:03.156 --> 01:37:06.292
There were three other states
across our country
1993
01:37:06.426 --> 01:37:08.128
who were trying
to end gerrymandering too.
1994
01:37:08.261 --> 01:37:10.363
We had Utah, Missouri,
and Colorado.
1995
01:37:10.864 --> 01:37:12.298
Missouri has been called,
1996
01:37:12.432 --> 01:37:14.935
they have also
officially ended gerrymandering,
1997
01:37:15.068 --> 01:37:16.803
heck yes!
1998
01:37:17.003 --> 01:37:19.606
(cheering)
1999
01:37:19.740 --> 01:37:23.877
Utah is almost called,
57 percent reporting
2000
01:37:24.010 --> 01:37:25.245
for changing lines.
2001
01:37:25.979 --> 01:37:30.250
In Colorado it was at
71.4 percent, 71!
2002
01:37:30.383 --> 01:37:34.454
(cheering)
2003
01:37:34.655 --> 01:37:36.923
This is not a moment,
but a movement.
2004
01:37:37.290 --> 01:37:39.626
The people of our country
are sick of this
2005
01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.128
and if we don't come and say
that enough is enough,
2006
01:37:42.262 --> 01:37:43.664
then nothing is going to change.
2007
01:37:43.797 --> 01:37:46.266
But we have proven that
you can keep your integrity,
2008
01:37:46.533 --> 01:37:48.602
you can make it so
that you can invite anyone
2009
01:37:48.735 --> 01:37:51.037
to the table,
you can operate a campaign
2010
01:37:51.171 --> 01:37:52.338
in a transparent way
2011
01:37:52.573 --> 01:37:54.741
where we actually trust
the people of our state
2012
01:37:54.875 --> 01:37:55.976
to make decisions,
2013
01:37:56.142 --> 01:37:57.578
and it ends up
in a beautiful result
2014
01:37:57.711 --> 01:37:59.846
that unites thousands of people
and is about to unite
2015
01:37:59.980 --> 01:38:01.047
millions of people.
2016
01:38:01.181 --> 01:38:02.749
It mattered that you showed up,
2017
01:38:02.883 --> 01:38:04.184
it mattered
that you knocked doors,
2018
01:38:04.317 --> 01:38:05.652
it mattered
that you gathered signatures,
2019
01:38:05.786 --> 01:38:08.088
and stood in the rain,
in the cold, in the heat.
2020
01:38:08.354 --> 01:38:12.025
All of that mattered
for generations of people.
2021
01:38:12.158 --> 01:38:16.663
Your sacrifices have changed
our constitution.
2022
01:38:17.063 --> 01:38:18.765
The Michigan state constitution
opens with,
2023
01:38:18.899 --> 01:38:21.968
"All political power
is inherent in the people."
2024
01:38:22.402 --> 01:38:25.906
We are those people,
this is our power,
2025
01:38:26.206 --> 01:38:27.307
let's go have
2026
01:38:27.608 --> 01:38:29.142
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
2027
01:38:29.275 --> 01:38:31.377
that restores faith
in democracy.
2028
01:38:31.778 --> 01:38:33.013
Cheers.
2029
01:38:33.446 --> 01:38:36.082
(cheering)
2030
01:38:36.482 --> 01:38:38.018
And I think
we're ready to party.
2031
01:38:38.151 --> 01:38:41.522
(cheering)
2032
01:39:21.427 --> 01:39:22.929
Protesters: (chanting)
Respect our vote,
2033
01:39:23.063 --> 01:39:24.364
respect our vote,
2034
01:39:24.565 --> 01:39:28.034
respect our vote,
respect our vote.
2035
01:39:28.168 --> 01:39:30.136
All votes matters.
2036
01:39:30.270 --> 01:39:31.972
Voting rights
are human rights,
2037
01:39:32.105 --> 01:39:34.107
voting rights
are human rights.
2038
01:39:34.240 --> 01:39:36.376
Show me what
democracy looks like.
2039
01:39:36.510 --> 01:39:38.979
This is what
democracy looks like.
2040
01:39:39.112 --> 01:39:41.347
Show me what
democracy looks like.
2041
01:39:41.515 --> 01:39:43.950
This is what
democracy looks like.
2042
01:39:44.084 --> 01:39:47.253
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2043
01:39:47.387 --> 01:39:50.090
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2044
01:39:50.223 --> 01:39:53.493
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2045
01:39:53.627 --> 01:39:57.297
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.