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Mary Greene: This is the
one great voice we have
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in a democracy,
the voice of our vote.
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Paul Weyrich: I don't want
everybody to vote.
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Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
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they never have been,
and they are not now.
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Ronald Reagan: This idea
that government is beholden
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to the people is still
the most unique idea
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in all the long history of man.
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Coretta Scott King: Make sure
that we get people in office
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who are going to be responsive
to the needs of the individuals
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that they represent.
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John Lewis: They are
changing the rules.
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That's not right,
that's not fair,
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and that is not just.
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(upbeat music playing)
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Reporter: The National Guard
has been called in
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to aid in the water crisis
in Flint, Michigan,
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a city with a water supply
contaminated with lead.
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Reporter 2: Thousands
of residents exposed
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to toxic levels of rust,
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iron, and lead want to know
who is to blame.
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Reporter 3: Volunteers from
across the state and country
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have trucked in water on
U‐Haul trucks
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because of the city's
contaminated drinking water.
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Reporter 4:
The entire population,
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roughly 100,000 was
potentially exposed to lead.
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Stephen: The Flint water crisis
really starts
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with the 2010 elections.
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In those elections,
Republicans gained
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total control
of the state government
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in Michigan.
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One of the things that
they did was they passed
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what they called
an emergency manager law.
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This law allowed
the state government
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to effectively override
local government
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and install their own executive
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to do practically whatever
they wanted
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in terms of public policy.
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Reporter: Governor Snyder
signed a new law
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giving financial managers
broader powers
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to fix the finances
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of communities
and school districts.
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Reporter 2: Seven emergency
financial managers
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are in place including
in cities like Detroit,
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Flint, and Pontiac.
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Rick: These emergency managers
were described
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as virtual dictators
over their communities.
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They could impose
spending cuts,
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they could re‐bargain contracts.
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Rev. Williams: They took control
to keep control.
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If that meant
taking democracy away,
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they decided that that would
be the route they would take.
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We have to send
the message
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that we will not tolerate
emergency dictators in the land.
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Curt: There was widespread
grassroots opposition
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because it was so extreme.
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Rev. Williams: We fought it,
we fought it in protest,
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we fought it using our bodies.
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All: Shame,
shame, shame, shame.
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We fought it at the ballot box.
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Curt: In November 2012,
by a pretty significant margin,
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voters rejected this extreme,
emergency manager law.
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Rev. Williams: We were excited
because grassroots won,
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everyday people won,
and said,
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"We don't want
emergency management."
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And then in the midnight hour,
in a lame duck session,
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the legislature
found this loophole,
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changed some words,
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changed some commas,
and created a new law,
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and then after they changed it,
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made sure that it could never
be repealed again.
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(ominous music playing)
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Stephen: One of the first things
that Republicans did
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when they took over
the legislature
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was they drew these aggressive
legislative districts
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that locked in
Republican majorities.
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David: The legislature
never would have passed
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the Emergency Manager Act
in Michigan if it had not been
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for gerrymandering.
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The people did not want this,
they went to the ballot box
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and they made that clear
in a referendum.
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But the legislature knew
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they were no longer accountable
to the people.
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They knew
that these district lines
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completely insulated them.
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Flint city officials:
Three, two, one.
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Man: Yeah!
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Here's to Flint!
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‐ Here's to Flint!
‐ Here, here!
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Rev. Williams: My office
started getting phone calls.
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"This water is horrible,
it comes out of the tap brown."
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I'll never forget, one lady
came up to me in a meeting
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and said, "Reverend, my dog
won't drink this water."
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Reporter: This crisis began
over a year ago, silently,
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when the city switched from
a Detroit water system,
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to the Flint River.
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The Flint River has
a high salt content,
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so it corroded the pipes
that it flowed through,
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and lead from those pipes
leached into the system.
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Rev. Williams: It happened
because elected officials
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had the ability to do whatever
they wanted to do.
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"If I don't ever have to worry
about being unelected,
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I don't care about your water.
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Why? Because I don't have
to be accountable to you."
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Faith in government began
to wane, faith in democracy,
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faith in the whole process
began to wane.
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Katie: I think Flint
woke people up.
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Just sitting and watching,
like, these politicians
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just so blatantly disregard
the will of the people.
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You have these officials
who feel untouchable,
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who feel like
they can't get unelected
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because they've designed
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and rigged a system
to make it that way.
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I just reached a point where
it was like, why aren't we‐‐
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how can we do something
about this, like, how?
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I wanted to have some way
to come together
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and start fixing this.
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And stop accepting
that things are corrupt.
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In this age of the internet,
you're so connected to, like,
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these great examples of people
who start off on something,
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and it does work sometimes.
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And so I think I thought,
you know,
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I'm going to throw it out
into the world.
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(keyboard clicking)
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From the moment I posted it,
I saw so many people
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who were just upset
with the current way politics
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had been happening.
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(keyboard clicking,
pinging)
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I saw that there was
a pent‐up energy.
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I was like, "I'm not alone."
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So I just thought I would,
yeah, try.
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(laughs)
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(curious music playing)
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David: Where you draw the lines
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makes all the difference.
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A mapmaker knows
as they draw a line
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how it's going to influence
an election precisely.
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Ari: The reason
that you gerrymander
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is to make it harder
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for your opponents' vote
to count.
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And there are a few
different ways you do that.
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You can pack your opponent,
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so you can put
your opponent's supporters
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into as few districts
as possible,
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so they'll win some seats,
but you'll win
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all the other seats.
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Then there is also cracking,
that's the other way
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gerrymandering works,
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where you spread
your opponents out.
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So, fine, you'll give
your opponents 20 percent
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of the vote
in a bunch of districts,
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but they're never going
to win those districts.
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Kevin: The effects of packing
and cracking
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are to create seats
that are safe.
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The winner is pre‐decided,
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just by the way
that the districts are drawn.
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Dale: It really represents
legislators picking voters,
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rather than voters
picking legislators,
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and I think most people
find that offensive.
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Katie: The system is
no longer working,
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the political system
no longer works
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for the average person,
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and in Michigan, it no longer
works for Michiganders.
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So for today, we're going
to do a campaign highlight,
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kind of give everybody
an update of what's happened
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over the last month.
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We wanted to do something
about this issue,
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but to pretend that we knew
at all what we were doing
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would be a complete lie.
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I'm John Hanieski,
I'm heading up
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the finance committee.
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I got pulled out
a few weeks ago,
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I know Katie from college,
we sat next to each other
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in public policy class.
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And then I'm also
the state field director,
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so I have that group also
which consists of...
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Katie: There had been
some news pieces saying
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that there was not interest
from our elected officials
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in changing this.
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The proposal at a glance
is it's going
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to be a citizen's commission.
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Katie: And so it just felt
like an independent
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citizen‐driven commission
that would draw the lines
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in a fair and transparent way
was the way to go.
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You prescribe for fixing this,
this citizens' commission.
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Four would be Democrats,
four would be Republicans,
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five would be Independents.
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Yeah, so right now the process
happens completely
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behind closed doors
and is the most partisan thing
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that could happen.
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You have one party
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with lobbyists
locking themselves behind,
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you know, that door.
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Our process takes all
of that and throws it out
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into the open.
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Thank you guys so much
for coming out on a Saturday.
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Katie: Because I don't do
politics for a job,
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it's not a huge
part of my life.
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When we started talking
to other groups, you know,
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they were like well, nobody
in your group has, you know,
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directly ran
a ballot initiative, so...
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Jonathan: I mean
are you going out
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and talking to groups,
trying to get
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some big organizations
who might have some
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financial resources
behind them?
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Katie: We're looking
to coalition build.
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It... Redistricting is
an issue that affects
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so many different things.
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Tim: So who do you have onboard?
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No organizations formally yet,
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but we're working with plenty.
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Rick: You're trying
to coalition build,
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who is in your coalition?
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I think they didn't know
what to do with us.
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So this is part of
the 14th Congressional District,
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so why was
it created this way?
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Katie: But we started doing
these town halls.
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Kevin: Farmington has
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a good number
of Republicans in it,
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so you pull Pontiac out
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and you put it in
the next district over
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because there
it contributes to majorities
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for the other side.
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Katie: And we saw, you know,
a renewed sense of urgency
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from the people of Michigan.
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We started from a Facebook post
in social media,
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and quickly turned into
a thousand different strangers
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from across the state
that have come together
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to go through the process,
learning as we go.
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Male speaker: Seeing that
all those in favor of the motion
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‐ signify by saying aye.
‐ Female speaker: Aye.
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All those opposed?
The motion carries.
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(cheering and applause)
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Yes, we have something
very important for you to do.
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(exclaims)
I'm going to cry.
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(Katie laughs)
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I am shaking, thank you.
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Our whole campaign
has been about the people,
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about representing accurately
the voices of the people
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and making sure that what
we actually want as change,
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doesn't get manipulated
from anybody,
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and I feel so confident
that we have done that
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and will continue to do that.
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So thanks
and let's go gather petitions.
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‐ Yeah!
‐ (cheering)
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Thanks, Joe.
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David: Gerrymandering takes
its name
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from a man named
Elbridge Gerry,
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the Governor of Massachusetts
in 1812
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who agrees to maps
that draw up wild districts.
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A political cartoonist takes
one look at this
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and thinks it looks
like a salamander,
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so it becomes known
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as gerrymandering.
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Quick sidenote, you are
not wrong to notice
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that the "gerry" in gerrymander
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refers to a guy whose name
was actually pronounced Gary
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because literally everything
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about gerrymandering
is stupid and wrong.
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Robert: All the way through
the mid to latter part
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of the 20th Century,
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gerrymandering,
though it was pervasive...
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State legislatures all
over America are at it again.
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Robert: ...it was never used
to consolidate
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and make permanent
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the power
of any one political party.
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Male speaker: Gerrymandering
continues to be
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an effective weapon
to maintain the status quo.
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David: It was often
about incumbent protection
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and both sides would do it.
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Democrats did a terrific
job of gerrymandering
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California in the 1980s.
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There was a congressman named
Phillip Burton who used to say
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that the district lines
that he drew there
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were his contribution
to modern art.
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Regan: The fact is
gerrymandering
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has become a national scandal.
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The Democratic controlled
state legislatures
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have so rigged
the electoral process
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that the will of the people
cannot be heard.
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Announcer: Ladies
and gentlemen,
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the next first family of the
United States of America.
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(cheering)
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David: November 2008,
we have the historic election
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of our first
African American president.
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You see a Democratic
super majority
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in the U. S. Senate,
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and it returns
a Democratic majority
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to the U. S. House.
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Reporter: The defeat is total,
Republican leaders
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just can't spin it any longer.
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Reporter 2: Barack Obama
promised to change
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the red states blue and he did.
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It is remarkable.
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Dave: If you watch the news
coverage of that night,
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folks were talking as if
the Republican party was dead
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for a generation, not simply
because of this election,
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but because of the way
American demographics
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are changing.
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Vann: I think Republicans
saw the writing on the wall
which is
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there are fewer and fewer
Republicans born every day,
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and more and more
Democrats every day.
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They're running out of room.
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There's no question
now Republicans have got
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a lot of work to do.
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Something is wrong
with the Republican party.
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The damage is very severe.
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Our party is eroding by the day.
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Chris: There is always
that moment, right?
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Whenever there is
a big loss for a party,
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there's this moment of panic.
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I think those of us who have
been around a little bit
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kind of can see past the panic,
but still have the fundamental
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strategic question:
What are we going to do?
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How do we get back?
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And I think that, you know,
part of that
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turned out
to be our REDMAP project.
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David: Chris Jankowski
is one of the smartest minds
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in the Republican party.
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He understands that
as important as 2008 was,
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2010 had the opportunity
to be a much more
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important election.
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2010 is a zero year,
elections ending in zero
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are more consequential
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because it's a census year
and we redistrict
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every state legislative seat
and congressional seat
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following the census.
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Vann: The census provides
an estimate of how many people
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are in every state,
and every county,
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and every block.
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As per the constitution,
in order to keep up
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with population shifts,
they build new state
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and congressional districts.
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In 80 percent of all states,
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it's the state legislatures
that play the key role
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in redistricting.
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If you win state legislatures
in 2010,
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you get to draw the new maps
that control all the elections
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over the next decade,
and they knew that.
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David: Jankowski goes
to Republican donors
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and says I can deliver
two things for you.
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I can deliver conservative
control of congress,
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perhaps for a decade,
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but I can also
promise Republican control
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the state legislatures
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and we can move
a conservative agenda
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through the states as well.
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It was a very easy
sell to those
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who were involved
in state elections.
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What we did was
we took the cost
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of swing congressional seats
over 10 years, five elections,
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and we pegged that at over
100 million per election.
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We said okay for this price
we can get control
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of those state legislatures
and re‐draw the maps.
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We projected it would be quite
a cost‐efficient endeavor.
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25, 30 million dollars
rather than
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almost half a billion.
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David: If you look at the donors
to this project you see
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the big money interests that
help fund the Republican party
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and conservative politics
in the country.
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Walmart.
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Altria which is big tobacco.
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The Chamber of Commerce.
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Establishment
corporate interests,
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like the Koch brothers.
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2010 already was setting
up to be a big year
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for the Republicans,
but what they wanted to do
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was win the right seats.
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The key seats that would allow
them to have an influence
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on the redistricting process.
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Chris: It was Wisconsin,
Ohio, Pennsylvania,
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North Carolina, Colorado.
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You know Michigan,
I had looked at their map,
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looked at their research,
and their plan,
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and I said, "Okay,
we're in for a million,"
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and they said, "Really?"
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And I said, "Yep, so I want
you to spread this map.
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Act like you've got
another million."
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They spent tons and
tons of money in races
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where people had never
even seen TV ads before.
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Female narrator: Senator
Reynolds supports
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Obama's health care takeover.
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Male narrator: A billion‐dollar
tax increase to fund
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more government spending.
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Female narrator 2: Unemployment
has almost doubled.
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Chris: We looked
and said okay,
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looks like crime
is an issue here.
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This incumbent has
bad crime votes,
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so we're going to
educate them on that.
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You know this is
a bad budget vote,
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this is a bad school vote.
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We went wherever the data
suggested we should go.
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Margaret: We had no idea
what was about to hit us.
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Nobody had ever seen
anything like it.
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In the last weeks
of that campaign,
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mailers from my opponent
were arriving every day.
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Female narrator: Incumbent
senator Margaret Dickson,
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who does she really care about?
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Margaret: Right at the end
there was a campaign ad
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against me that portrayed me
apparently as a prostitute.
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Female narrator: What
does Margaret Dickson
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really care about?
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I didn't really
sense it in North Carolina
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until the very end,
and I saw it in my race,
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and I saw it when I
talked to colleagues,
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they were having
the same experience.
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We all had kind of
this "ah‐ha" moment.
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And it was true, it wasn't
just North Carolina,
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it was true across
the country.
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It's shaping up as
a big Republican night.
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It is being called a GOP sweep
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and a Tea Party tidal wave.
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Chris: We knew it was
going to be a good night.
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The Friday before that, I went
out on a limb and predicted
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we would pick up at least
10 legislative chambers
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and possibly higher.
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And right after I got off
the phone with that reporter
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I thought, "Ooph, that seems,
yeah, I believe it,
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I see it in the data, but it
just seems really amazing."
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But then as the night
unfolded we took everything
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we intended to take.
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News pundit: North Carolina
House and Senate flip
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to the Republicans for
the first time since 1870.
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The Indiana House
has flipped,
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the Pennsylvania House
has flipped,
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Michigan House has flipped,
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the Ohio House has flipped,
the Iowa House has flipped.
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A tsunami just
hit the heartland.
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This was actually
something that wasn't covered
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a whole lot at the time.
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A dozen or so states would
turn into Republican hands
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and would now have control
over drawing all
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of the district boundaries.
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David: They did this
for 30 million dollars.
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It's the biggest bargain
and perhaps the biggest heist
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in modern American
political history.
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Chris: For us, it was
mission accomplished.
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And then the second part of
the plan was what happened
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with redrawing the lines.
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(keyboard clicking)
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We sent out a letter
to all of the new leaders
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and said,
"If you need resources,
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we would be happy to provide
those for you."
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They say, "If you need
mapping help,
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if you need legal
help, you let us know,
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we've got the money for you.
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We have the experts, we have
the money, let us help."
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(cheerful music playing)
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Stephen: Tom Hofeller
is kind of a superstar
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in gerrymandering.
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It's my job to advise
Republican stakeholders
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in the redistricting question
on how they can maneuver
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through these thickets.
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Stephen: He goes around
and works
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for Republican legislators
in multiple states
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and will draw their maps.
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There is something almost like
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an old country doctor
about Hofeller.
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He would pack his old kit bag,
you know, with his laptop,
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kiss his wife
in Alexandria, Virginia goodbye,
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and pet his dog.
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And then set off into
a country
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that was about
to be redrawn by him.
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Rob: Redistricting used to be
done by legislators
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or their legislative staff,
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so it was always
a partisan project,
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but at least people
lived in the state,
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and they knew the people,
and they knew the politics.
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These people out
of Washington,
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all they know is where
the airport is
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when they come down
and deliver the plans.
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And they also know how
to use sophisticated software
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to maximize political results.
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Jeff: Hofeller has got
a piece of software
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and he downloads a bunch
of political data into that
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and he spits out
the most partisan map
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that he thinks
the courts will allow.
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David: Gerrymandering
from 1788 through 2000
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is in its minor leagues.
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In 2010, gerrymandering
jumps straight
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into its steroids era.
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Big data and big technology
emerge in such a way
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that you can carve
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more precise gerrymanders
than ever.
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Margaret: They used census data,
educational levels,
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income levels.
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Stephen:
Voters' partisan history,
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their race and their gender,
and their age,
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those factors tell you so much
about a voter
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that you can predict
how they're going to vote
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in a few years with
a strong degree of confidence.
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Margaret: They could go down
the street and, "These people
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are Republicans, we're going
to put them in this district,
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these people
are Democrats,
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we're going to put
them over here."
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There was no transparency
at all
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because they were using
private computers,
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they were
being drawn off site
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by hired Republican consultants.
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Jeff: Picture a black box.
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Whatever happens inside
that black box, you can't see.
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00:26:54,548 --> 00:26:57,651
They just come out
and they say here is the map.
505
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,523
Stephen: It was a flawlessly
functioning map.
506
00:27:03,123 --> 00:27:05,191
Every single district hit
what you might call
507
00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:07,493
the sweet spot, safe enough
for Republicans
508
00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:08,862
to consistently win it,
509
00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:11,031
but it didn't waste
excess votes,
510
00:27:11,164 --> 00:27:13,199
they could have spread
around to other districts.
511
00:27:13,834 --> 00:27:15,035
On the other hand,
512
00:27:15,201 --> 00:27:16,903
the few Democratic districts
they drew
513
00:27:17,037 --> 00:27:19,239
were designed to quarantine
as many Democratic voters
514
00:27:19,372 --> 00:27:20,273
as possible.
515
00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:21,842
So, here is what they do.
516
00:27:22,008 --> 00:27:24,044
They get data on where all
the African Americans live
517
00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:25,879
and then they just
draw lines around it
518
00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:27,714
so the really
crazy looking maps,
519
00:27:27,848 --> 00:27:29,282
the really
squiggly looking ones,
520
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:30,984
the reason they're squiggly
is because they're picking up
521
00:27:31,117 --> 00:27:32,786
all the African American
communities
522
00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:34,220
all throughout the state.
523
00:27:34,588 --> 00:27:36,156
Seth: Take a look at North
Carolina's congressional map.
524
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:39,693
Look at District 12,
it's so weirdly shaped
525
00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:42,028
they can't even fit
the 12 in it.
526
00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:45,398
Looks like a Rorschach test,
what do you see in this shape?
527
00:27:45,532 --> 00:27:48,201
I don't know, it's either
a dragon or 300 years
528
00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,636
of institutional racism.
529
00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:51,404
(laughing)
530
00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:55,041
Ari: Republicans have
cynically
531
00:27:55,175 --> 00:27:57,410
put more and more minorities
into what's called
532
00:27:57,544 --> 00:27:58,945
the majority minority district.
533
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,081
So the district goes
50 percent minority,
534
00:28:01,214 --> 00:28:03,483
to 60 percent minority,
to 70 percent minority,
535
00:28:03,617 --> 00:28:06,520
and the reason they're doing
this is so that minorities
536
00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:10,356
will have less impact in
all of the other districts.
537
00:28:12,225 --> 00:28:14,895
And that was exactly the
strategy that Tom Hofeller
538
00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:16,730
used in North Carolina.
539
00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:19,399
Funneling as many black voters
as possible
540
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,434
into the 1st and 12th
Congressional Districts,
541
00:28:21,568 --> 00:28:24,705
while bleaching
the surrounding areas.
542
00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:29,009
Carter: The truth is
543
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,878
the Republicans targeted
African Americans,
544
00:28:32,713 --> 00:28:35,081
but the motivation wasn't,
545
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:36,950
"We want to hurt
African‐Americans,"
546
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,885
it was
"We want to hurt Democrats."
547
00:28:42,523 --> 00:28:44,390
Robert: One of Hofeller's
crowning achievements
548
00:28:44,525 --> 00:28:45,992
is what he did
in the western part
549
00:28:46,126 --> 00:28:47,393
of North Carolina,
550
00:28:47,828 --> 00:28:50,296
in particular, the district
that was occupied at the time
551
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:53,233
by a moderate Democrat,
Heath Shuler.
552
00:28:54,701 --> 00:28:56,469
Rob: Heath Shuler was a former
553
00:28:56,603 --> 00:28:58,138
University of Tennessee
quarterback.
554
00:28:58,772 --> 00:29:02,042
He was kind of a moderate
to conservative Democrat.
555
00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:03,409
You didn't send me up there
556
00:29:03,544 --> 00:29:05,045
to blindly follow any one party,
557
00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:06,747
you sent me up there
to do what's right
558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,948
for our mountain families.
559
00:29:08,582 --> 00:29:11,251
Rob: Loved guns,
is anti‐abortion,
560
00:29:11,552 --> 00:29:14,320
he was the very picture
of a good old boy.
561
00:29:15,155 --> 00:29:17,457
And so you can't really
run against this guy
562
00:29:17,591 --> 00:29:19,860
like he's
a San Francisco Democrat.
563
00:29:20,661 --> 00:29:22,629
So they had to change
the guy's district.
564
00:29:23,496 --> 00:29:26,933
The most Democratic area
of his district was Asheville,
565
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:28,334
which is this little
Haight‐Ashbury
566
00:29:28,468 --> 00:29:29,536
in the middle
of the mountains.
567
00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:34,975
Robert: Hofeller just
essentially carved Asheville
568
00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:38,244
out of that map
and moved it to another area,
569
00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:42,849
an area that was so Republican
that it could absorb Asheville.
570
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:46,787
Suddenly that part
of Buncombe County
571
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,321
where Asheville was a part
572
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,024
was suddenly
quite a conservative district.
573
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:57,130
Heath Shuler, recognizing
the writing on the wall,
574
00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:59,365
retires from politics
altogether.
575
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,068
Suddenly now it's there
for the taking by Republicans
576
00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:04,771
and the guy who wins it
is a guy named Mark Meadows.
577
00:30:04,905 --> 00:30:06,807
2012 is the time
578
00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:09,009
that we're going
to send Mr. Obama home
579
00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,678
to Kenya or wherever it is,
we're going to do it.
580
00:30:11,812 --> 00:30:13,079
(cheering)
581
00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:14,515
Stephen: Meadows is now
582
00:30:14,648 --> 00:30:16,517
the chairman
of the Freedom Caucus
583
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,653
which is the hardline group
in the House of Representatives
584
00:30:19,786 --> 00:30:22,789
that opposes anything
that is not orthodox,
585
00:30:22,923 --> 00:30:24,124
you know, conservatism.
586
00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:27,160
Vann: Replacement of people
like Shuler
587
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:28,595
with people like Meadows
588
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,363
is actually one of
the reasons why
589
00:30:30,631 --> 00:30:32,332
the country, as a whole,
has become so hyper‐partisan.
590
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,501
Candidates in the middle,
both moderate Republicans
591
00:30:35,636 --> 00:30:38,772
and conservative Democrats,
they've been the key targets.
592
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:42,576
It moves our political
system towards polarization.
593
00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,113
David: When a member
of congress need only fear
594
00:30:47,247 --> 00:30:48,248
a primary challenge,
595
00:30:48,749 --> 00:30:50,884
when they are so safe
in their seat
596
00:30:51,184 --> 00:30:54,020
that they cannot actually
lose an election,
597
00:30:54,487 --> 00:30:56,657
all they care about
is guarding their base.
598
00:30:57,390 --> 00:31:00,093
So working across the aisle,
compromise,
599
00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:02,195
trying to find common ground,
all of the things
600
00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:04,030
we used to think of
as being central
601
00:31:04,164 --> 00:31:05,498
to the art of politics
602
00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:08,569
actually become the only things
that can cost them their seat.
603
00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,629
These are all shrink‐wrapped
in packages of a hundred
604
00:31:35,762 --> 00:31:37,097
and so are the petitions,
605
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:38,632
so I'm just going to make
sure that you have 19.
606
00:31:38,765 --> 00:31:40,266
‐ Katie: These look great.
‐ Yeah, they do.
607
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,702
Then it's only
for people who signed,
608
00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:43,169
people who don't sign
don't get anything.
609
00:31:43,303 --> 00:31:45,038
Yeah, they don't.
(laughs)
610
00:31:48,308 --> 00:31:49,543
So, that's where we're headed.
611
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,377
Are you guys registered
to vote in Michigan?
612
00:31:51,545 --> 00:31:53,179
Volunteer: Excuse me, ma'am,
are you a registered voter
613
00:31:53,313 --> 00:31:54,615
here in Michigan?
614
00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:56,116
Have you had a chance
to sign the petition
615
00:31:56,249 --> 00:31:57,884
to end gerrymandering
in Michigan?
616
00:31:58,018 --> 00:31:59,319
To end what?
617
00:31:59,452 --> 00:32:00,754
Volunteer: Would you be
interested in signing
618
00:32:00,887 --> 00:32:02,322
a petition against
gerrymandering?
619
00:32:02,455 --> 00:32:03,957
Woman: Against what's that?
620
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,391
Volunteer: Gerrymandering.
621
00:32:05,726 --> 00:32:07,393
Reporter: In Michigan it is
almost impossible
622
00:32:07,528 --> 00:32:10,463
for a petition drive to gather
enough signatures
623
00:32:10,664 --> 00:32:14,134
without using paid professional
petition circulators.
624
00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:15,569
You're not
paying for names.
625
00:32:15,736 --> 00:32:17,237
‐ Katie: Correct.
‐ And you don't intend to?
626
00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:18,605
Katie: Correct, yeah.
627
00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,206
Right now, we're at
two weeks in officially today,
628
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:21,575
we have 50,000 signatures
629
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,109
that have been gathered
a hundred percent
630
00:32:23,243 --> 00:32:24,645
by volunteers
from across the state.
631
00:32:24,845 --> 00:32:26,613
Volunteer: We're working
with Voters Not Politicians
632
00:32:26,747 --> 00:32:28,381
for
the anti‐gerrymandering drive.
633
00:32:28,515 --> 00:32:30,116
Because right now
politicians are manipulating
634
00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,318
the system, so then
they don't listen to voters.
635
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,355
Hi, this is Katie,
I'm doing a super,
636
00:32:35,488 --> 00:32:37,123
super late weekly update.
637
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:41,261
I just wanted to say thank you
to every single person
638
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,765
who decided to start
gathering signatures.
639
00:32:45,165 --> 00:32:46,900
So I would start
with today's date.
640
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,636
Kyle: The anti‐fracking movement
had a lot of energy
641
00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:52,105
and they failed to get
the signatures needed
642
00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:53,540
to get on the ballot.
643
00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:55,208
‐ Do you know about the topic?
‐ Oh, yeah.
644
00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:56,543
You're all set, okay, wonderful.
645
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,378
News pundit:
I mean, the only group ever
646
00:32:58,512 --> 00:33:00,113
to manage getting a petition
on the ballot
647
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,415
using only volunteers
was Right to Life.
648
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:04,751
If anyone else
is interested in signing.
649
00:33:04,885 --> 00:33:07,053
I'm not sure if anyone
has been paying attention
650
00:33:07,187 --> 00:33:08,889
at all to our ticker,
651
00:33:09,055 --> 00:33:12,926
but we are at
196,000 signatures,
652
00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:14,661
which is absolutely amazing.
653
00:33:14,795 --> 00:33:18,331
They're not only
on pace to get the 400,000
654
00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,934
that they want, but they,
it looks like they're going
655
00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:24,671
to do it before their deadline
which is really amazing.
656
00:33:24,805 --> 00:33:26,339
I tell you these
folks are everywhere.
657
00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:27,708
I mean I can't go
to a public event
658
00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:29,009
without seeing them.
659
00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:30,711
Oh my gosh, remember
right after we got approval
660
00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:32,378
where they called
all our people old ladies
661
00:33:32,513 --> 00:33:34,214
who aren't going
to get anything done?
662
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,650
They're like, their minds
are blown, it's awesome.
663
00:33:36,983 --> 00:33:38,685
(keyboard clacking)
664
00:33:45,892 --> 00:33:48,595
Woman: Aww, goodbye, hair.
665
00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,764
Ah, I wish I was
better at this.
666
00:33:50,897 --> 00:33:52,165
Woman 2: It's pretty bad.
667
00:33:52,298 --> 00:33:54,034
‐ Joe: Not as much as I do.
‐ (laughter)
668
00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:04,144
Katie: Today we turn
in our signatures
669
00:34:04,277 --> 00:34:05,646
to the Secretary of State.
670
00:34:05,779 --> 00:34:07,881
Who would have known that
a little over a year ago
671
00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:11,618
we would be here today
turning them in two months early
672
00:34:11,752 --> 00:34:13,053
with all volunteers?
673
00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:14,454
In under 40 days
674
00:34:14,588 --> 00:34:17,057
we got all 83 counties
represented
675
00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:18,491
and that is only possible
676
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,493
because all
of you guys decided to say,
677
00:34:20,627 --> 00:34:22,763
"Heck yeah I'm going to
join onto this thing."
678
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,331
Here is where
we're loading up the petitions.
679
00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:27,200
I'm not sure
if everybody can see this,
680
00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:31,271
but there are literally
rows and rows of boxes.
681
00:34:36,977 --> 00:34:40,881
Rick: I remember the first time
I saw this group get together
682
00:34:41,081 --> 00:34:42,549
and talk about it and,
you know,
683
00:34:42,683 --> 00:34:44,651
I'm a veteran
political reporter,
684
00:34:44,785 --> 00:34:45,819
I'll have you know.
685
00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:48,622
And I looked at these people
and I was like, "No way."
686
00:34:49,122 --> 00:34:50,356
No way.
687
00:34:50,557 --> 00:34:52,826
I know what a winning
operation looks like
688
00:34:52,959 --> 00:34:54,194
and this isn't it.
689
00:34:54,928 --> 00:34:58,164
Kathay: They have turned
every political operative's
690
00:34:58,298 --> 00:35:00,534
predictions on their head.
691
00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:03,737
They have really blown
the box up
692
00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:06,573
and there is no more box,
they have reinvented everything.
693
00:35:06,707 --> 00:35:08,875
Our proposal will take
redistricting out of the hands
694
00:35:09,009 --> 00:35:10,310
of politicians and lobbyists
695
00:35:10,443 --> 00:35:12,045
who do their work
behind closed doors
696
00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:15,315
and give it to citizens
who will do it in the public.
697
00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:17,283
What we've seen in other states
who have done
698
00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:19,152
redistricting efforts
similar to ours
699
00:35:19,285 --> 00:35:20,453
is you see higher voter turnout.
700
00:35:20,587 --> 00:35:22,022
There's about
13 different states
701
00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:23,957
that have
independent commissions.
702
00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:28,228
(cheering)
703
00:35:28,361 --> 00:35:29,696
Our U‐Haul.
704
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:32,165
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There it is,
a really full truck.
705
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,771
Katie: Thousands of people
worked on this campaign.
706
00:35:38,939 --> 00:35:40,941
If we can get this passed
in 2018,
707
00:35:41,074 --> 00:35:44,611
there will be thousands
of people who affected law
708
00:35:44,745 --> 00:35:46,580
that will affect every election
in Michigan.
709
00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:49,415
It was for and by the people
and I know that's like
710
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:51,317
kind of hokey,
and kind of like, you know,
711
00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:53,453
really Founding Fathers‐y,
but like the fact
712
00:35:53,587 --> 00:35:55,522
that we would actually be able
to do that
713
00:35:55,656 --> 00:35:57,991
and prove that democracy
is still out there,
714
00:35:58,291 --> 00:35:59,359
that's amazing.
715
00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:01,762
No matter what you do
for this campaign,
716
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:06,833
entering the check numbers,
like it all is only possible
717
00:36:06,967 --> 00:36:08,301
because of each of you.
718
00:36:08,535 --> 00:36:10,937
And I know at least on my end,
that's the best part
719
00:36:11,071 --> 00:36:14,407
about this campaign is seeing
that really the political power
720
00:36:14,541 --> 00:36:17,477
is inherent
in the people, so yeah!
721
00:36:17,678 --> 00:36:21,915
(cheering)
722
00:36:35,061 --> 00:36:37,197
Justin: The one thing
that we are sure of
723
00:36:37,397 --> 00:36:39,866
is that legislators will fight
like crazy
724
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,467
to retain this power they have.
725
00:36:41,735 --> 00:36:44,337
I think there will be a
vicious fight by the people
726
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,907
who are in power
to preserve that power.
727
00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:48,709
They're going to want
to try to find some way
728
00:36:48,842 --> 00:36:50,877
to litigate us,
to keep us off from the ballot.
729
00:36:51,077 --> 00:36:52,913
We are not going to outspend
our opposition.
730
00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:55,481
We might get lucky
and get outspent four to one.
731
00:36:55,616 --> 00:36:58,151
We're probably going to get
outspent 10 to 20 to one.
732
00:36:58,284 --> 00:37:01,321
The opposition is going to try
to bleed us dry financially.
733
00:37:01,454 --> 00:37:03,456
And then they're going
to go for the PR.
734
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,559
They're going to be saying
that we are complex,
735
00:37:05,759 --> 00:37:08,529
that we are complicated,
and that we're confusing.
736
00:37:08,662 --> 00:37:11,765
We cannot make our policy
sound even a little bit...
737
00:37:12,032 --> 00:37:14,868
complex, confusing at all.
738
00:37:15,035 --> 00:37:16,269
Like, we have to make sure
739
00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:17,738
it's a very simple
and direct approach,
740
00:37:17,871 --> 00:37:19,272
and that the
language that we use
741
00:37:19,405 --> 00:37:21,307
to describe the policy
reflects that.
742
00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,077
They're absolutely
worried about us.
743
00:37:24,578 --> 00:37:25,679
They know and we know
744
00:37:25,812 --> 00:37:26,813
that once this gets
on the ballot,
745
00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:28,381
it almost always passes.
746
00:37:41,161 --> 00:37:42,462
(elephant trumpets)
747
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,034
(snake hisses)
748
00:37:50,504 --> 00:37:52,472
(bat chirps)
749
00:37:58,011 --> 00:37:59,345
(duck quacks)
750
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:20,534
Justin: The election of 2010
had been the Tea Party wave
751
00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:23,269
and the redistricting
that followed
752
00:38:23,403 --> 00:38:24,871
the election of 2010
753
00:38:25,005 --> 00:38:28,174
would keep those
legislators in their seats.
754
00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:32,045
In a normal political cycle,
we would expect a wave
755
00:38:32,178 --> 00:38:33,847
to come in and a wave to recede,
756
00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,016
and a wave to come in
and a wave to recede.
757
00:38:36,182 --> 00:38:37,450
We see this over
and over again.
758
00:38:37,818 --> 00:38:41,622
The election of 2010
was a giant wave
759
00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:43,757
and the Republican Party
760
00:38:43,924 --> 00:38:46,627
put up an enormous
sea wall in order to stop
761
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,328
that wave from receding.
762
00:38:48,595 --> 00:38:50,797
And when that happened,
we have seen extreme policy
763
00:38:50,931 --> 00:38:51,965
as a result.
764
00:38:54,434 --> 00:38:58,605
(cheerful music playing)
765
00:39:08,314 --> 00:39:11,985
Peter: Wisconsin is basically
an evenly divided state.
766
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,354
Half of the state is Republican
767
00:39:14,487 --> 00:39:16,422
and half the state
is Democratic.
768
00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:24,397
In 2010, Project REDMAP
and the Republicans
769
00:39:24,565 --> 00:39:25,866
invested a large amount
770
00:39:25,999 --> 00:39:28,635
of very strategically
targeted money.
771
00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:31,538
They took the State Assembly
and the State Senate
772
00:39:31,772 --> 00:39:33,874
and they won the governorship.
773
00:39:35,475 --> 00:39:36,843
Scott: No matter
where you live,
774
00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:38,478
no matter what
your background,
775
00:39:38,612 --> 00:39:39,846
no matter who you voted for,
776
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,982
we all live
in Wisconsin together,
777
00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,851
and we're going to move
this state forward together.
778
00:39:44,985 --> 00:39:46,319
(cheering)
779
00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:48,021
Sly: Scott Walker just swept in
780
00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:49,923
with the rest
of the Republicans.
781
00:39:50,056 --> 00:39:51,758
I mean the slate went
from everything Democratic,
782
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,995
to everything Republican,
everything.
783
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:59,299
Chris: REDMAP, for us,
was only the beginning.
784
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:01,902
State governments,
like Wisconsin,
785
00:40:02,035 --> 00:40:04,304
were little laboratories
of democracy.
786
00:40:04,738 --> 00:40:06,573
Now that we
got control of them,
787
00:40:06,707 --> 00:40:07,941
we wanted to do something
with it.
788
00:40:08,108 --> 00:40:10,043
‐ Good morning.
‐ Officials: Good morning.
789
00:40:10,844 --> 00:40:12,546
I see everyone's here to see
my prediction for
790
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,115
the Ohio State/Wisconsin game
on Saturday.
791
00:40:23,389 --> 00:40:26,660
In this bill will be a change
in terms of state employees
792
00:40:26,993 --> 00:40:30,163
not being required
to be a part of their union.
793
00:40:30,897 --> 00:40:33,066
Barry: Act 10 would essentially
do away
794
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:35,536
with collective bargaining
for public sector employees.
795
00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:37,638
That was something that
had been a long tradition
796
00:40:37,771 --> 00:40:39,640
in Wisconsin, had been
a cherished part of the state.
797
00:40:39,873 --> 00:40:41,241
That was a total surprise.
798
00:40:41,374 --> 00:40:42,843
This is a significant change,
799
00:40:43,143 --> 00:40:45,646
this is obviously a very bold
and aggressive change.
800
00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:47,614
The Republicans,
they understood,
801
00:40:47,748 --> 00:40:50,383
Scott Walker understood
that public sector unions,
802
00:40:50,517 --> 00:40:52,586
the teachers,
the municipal workers,
803
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,220
the folks that pick up
your garbage,
804
00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:57,858
they tend to vote Democratic
and they use their unions
805
00:40:57,991 --> 00:41:01,762
as a means of promoting
their political views.
806
00:41:01,895 --> 00:41:03,196
Thanks very much for your time.
807
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,165
Peter: So he wanted
to destroy that.
808
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,669
Dale: I knew what
this would mean.
809
00:41:09,102 --> 00:41:13,473
It came up in caucus
and I think my exact words were,
810
00:41:13,607 --> 00:41:14,908
"Are you crazy?"
811
00:41:15,241 --> 00:41:17,678
People kill each other's dogs
over this kind of stuff.
812
00:41:18,011 --> 00:41:20,514
(playing "America the Beautiful"
on bagpipes)
813
00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:30,156
Peter: When Act 10 was
introduced, the entire state
814
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:32,125
just rose up in anger.
815
00:41:32,258 --> 00:41:34,427
Announcers: We are proud
to stand with you,
816
00:41:34,561 --> 00:41:35,862
Wisconsin backers.
817
00:41:36,062 --> 00:41:37,564
(cheering)
818
00:41:37,731 --> 00:41:40,266
First there was 10,000,
then there was 20,000,
819
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,436
then there were 30,000,
and this thing just sparked.
820
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:47,674
Protesters: Hey, hey, ho, ho,
Scott Walker has got to go.
821
00:41:48,642 --> 00:41:50,711
Patrick: Tens of thousands
of people in the capitol.
822
00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:54,414
All protesters:
Solidarity forever.
823
00:41:54,748 --> 00:41:57,818
Patrick: As many as 100,00
on the capitol ground some days
824
00:41:57,951 --> 00:41:59,786
and this thing is sustained
for days, and days,
825
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,254
and weeks, and weeks.
826
00:42:07,327 --> 00:42:11,364
Dale: It's just hard to express
how angry people were.
827
00:42:12,432 --> 00:42:14,935
You know this is a place
like Minnesota,
828
00:42:15,068 --> 00:42:18,238
people are basically nice,
and suddenly we had
829
00:42:18,404 --> 00:42:21,842
this incredible,
polarized atmosphere.
830
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:26,446
‐ Woman: We are the union!
‐ Protestors: We are the union!
831
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:28,414
Woman: The mighty, mighty union.
832
00:42:28,615 --> 00:42:31,184
Fred: We were a state
that had a strong tradition
833
00:42:31,317 --> 00:42:32,853
of trade unions.
834
00:42:33,987 --> 00:42:37,591
People thought, "What in
the world is he trying to do?"
835
00:42:43,096 --> 00:42:44,698
Scott: Hi, this is Scott Walker.
836
00:42:44,931 --> 00:42:47,100
David Koch Impersonator:
Scott, David Koch, how are you?
837
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,502
Scott: Hey, David,
I'm good, and yourself?
838
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:50,971
David Koch Impersonator:
I'm very well.
839
00:42:51,204 --> 00:42:52,873
Little disheartened
by the situation there,
840
00:42:53,006 --> 00:42:54,841
but what's the latest?
841
00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:57,377
Scott: We're actually
hanging pretty tough.
842
00:42:57,511 --> 00:43:00,514
You know amazingly there
is a much smaller group
843
00:43:00,647 --> 00:43:02,248
of protesters,
almost all of whom
844
00:43:02,382 --> 00:43:04,150
are in from other states today.
845
00:43:12,626 --> 00:43:14,094
5,000 to 6,000 state workers
846
00:43:14,227 --> 00:43:16,096
will get at‐risk notices
for layoffs.
847
00:43:16,329 --> 00:43:18,298
We might ratchet that up
a little bit, you know.
848
00:43:18,464 --> 00:43:19,900
David Koch Impersonator:
Beautiful, beautiful,
849
00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:21,735
got to crush that union.
850
00:43:22,402 --> 00:43:24,905
Chris: Just as there were all
these protesters begging
851
00:43:25,038 --> 00:43:26,673
this governor to
listen to them,
852
00:43:27,473 --> 00:43:29,776
the person who he was willing
to listen to
853
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:31,044
and so eager to please
854
00:43:31,177 --> 00:43:33,113
was an out‐of‐state billionaire.
855
00:43:33,279 --> 00:43:35,415
He talked about coordinating
with other governors,
856
00:43:35,549 --> 00:43:38,685
which made it very clear
that this is a national plan.
857
00:43:38,819 --> 00:43:40,153
Scott: I talk
to Kasich every day,
858
00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:42,756
you know, John has got
to stand firm in Ohio.
859
00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:45,926
I think we can do
the same thing
with Rick Scott in Florida.
860
00:43:46,059 --> 00:43:49,062
I think Snyder if he got
a little more support,
861
00:43:49,195 --> 00:43:50,764
probably could do that
in Michigan.
862
00:43:50,897 --> 00:43:52,766
This was a test run
to see if they could
863
00:43:52,899 --> 00:43:55,268
run over public employee unions
nationwide.
864
00:43:55,468 --> 00:43:57,403
Scott: There's a lot of us
new governors who got elected
865
00:43:57,538 --> 00:43:58,805
to do something big.
866
00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:00,707
David Koch Impersonator:
You're the first domino.
867
00:44:00,874 --> 00:44:03,209
Scott: Yep, this is our moment.
868
00:44:11,552 --> 00:44:14,555
Stephen: Republicans had no fear
of losing power
869
00:44:14,988 --> 00:44:16,289
because they could
draw districts
870
00:44:16,422 --> 00:44:18,825
to insulate themselves
from public opinion.
871
00:44:21,094 --> 00:44:22,596
David: The leadership
of the Republican Party
872
00:44:22,729 --> 00:44:24,665
in both the House and the
Senate in Wisconsin
873
00:44:24,798 --> 00:44:29,169
are able to tell their members,
"It's okay to vote for this.
874
00:44:29,402 --> 00:44:31,872
It might not be
popular, stay strong,
875
00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:34,307
we are drawing you a seat
you cannot lose."
876
00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,047
Peter: While the streets were
full of people demonstrating,
877
00:44:41,214 --> 00:44:42,883
hundreds of
thousands of people,
878
00:44:43,449 --> 00:44:45,819
what we didn't know
was that Scott Walker
879
00:44:45,952 --> 00:44:48,321
and the legislature
took the computers
880
00:44:48,454 --> 00:44:50,123
that they were going
to use to redistrict
881
00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:52,458
out of the capitol building,
and they moved them
882
00:44:52,593 --> 00:44:54,961
across the street
to a Republican law firm
883
00:44:55,095 --> 00:44:57,097
by the name
of Michael Best and Friedrich.
884
00:44:58,565 --> 00:45:01,334
And in the very back
of that law firm they set up
885
00:45:01,467 --> 00:45:03,336
a secret mapping room.
886
00:45:06,339 --> 00:45:10,744
Ari: It's an incredibly powerful
and jarring juxtaposition.
887
00:45:11,011 --> 00:45:13,313
You have these two things
playing out,
888
00:45:13,514 --> 00:45:15,448
there's all these
people protesting
889
00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:17,150
the anti‐union legislation.
890
00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:20,721
Right across the street,
key aides to the legislature
891
00:45:20,854 --> 00:45:22,188
are writing, in secret,
892
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,257
the redistricting maps
that will determine
893
00:45:24,424 --> 00:45:26,727
Republicans' power
for the next decade.
894
00:45:28,695 --> 00:45:30,564
Sachin: Knowing that they had
both houses
895
00:45:30,697 --> 00:45:31,932
of the legislature,
896
00:45:32,132 --> 00:45:33,634
they did everything they could
to hide
897
00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:36,570
their map drawing process
not only from the public,
898
00:45:36,703 --> 00:45:38,404
but even from most Republicans.
899
00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:42,108
Peter: Nobody could even come
into the room
900
00:45:42,242 --> 00:45:43,977
unless you signed
a secrecy agreement.
901
00:45:44,377 --> 00:45:46,046
And if you'd signed
that secrecy agreement
902
00:45:46,179 --> 00:45:47,681
and you managed
to get into the room,
903
00:45:47,814 --> 00:45:49,249
which you could only do
if you were a Republican,
904
00:45:49,449 --> 00:45:52,452
you were only
allowed to see your own map.
905
00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:56,389
State Legislator: So you have
before you the various maps
906
00:45:56,523 --> 00:45:59,560
and we have some other members
of the legislation here
907
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,027
and we're open for questions.
908
00:46:02,095 --> 00:46:03,630
Sachin:
When we first see the maps,
909
00:46:03,764 --> 00:46:06,232
it's obvious that there's
some significant bias in them.
910
00:46:08,268 --> 00:46:10,436
Some individual legislators
had been drawn
911
00:46:10,571 --> 00:46:12,072
competing districts
912
00:46:12,338 --> 00:46:14,207
that were going to be much
tougher for them to win in.
913
00:46:15,208 --> 00:46:17,143
There were these districts
that were drawn
914
00:46:17,277 --> 00:46:20,180
to pull Democratic voters
into suburban districts
915
00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:22,282
so there would be fewer
Democratic districts.
916
00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:24,518
And there were clearly some
districts that were going
917
00:46:24,651 --> 00:46:25,952
to be less competitive.
918
00:46:28,421 --> 00:46:31,157
Chris:
It was very well calculated.
919
00:46:31,357 --> 00:46:34,427
They knew exactly
what they were doing.
920
00:46:34,628 --> 00:46:35,896
Wolf: We're closing in
921
00:46:36,296 --> 00:46:38,031
on the first results in
the battle for the White House.
922
00:46:51,011 --> 00:46:53,780
When the results were
known on election night
923
00:46:53,914 --> 00:46:56,382
and we had been killed
in the election,
924
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:59,119
somebody said, "Well,
don't worry, all is not lost,
925
00:46:59,252 --> 00:47:01,788
the Republicans
won 60 seats in the Assembly."
926
00:47:01,922 --> 00:47:03,256
I said to myself
927
00:47:03,389 --> 00:47:04,958
and I said audibly
to the people I was with,
928
00:47:05,091 --> 00:47:06,893
"Well, that can't be right,
929
00:47:07,093 --> 00:47:09,195
there's a mistake
here somewhere."
930
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,465
And it was at that point
I began to realize
931
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,168
that things had changed.
932
00:47:15,335 --> 00:47:17,704
You have several
states in 2012
933
00:47:17,971 --> 00:47:19,139
where Democratic candidates
934
00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:21,007
actually won
more votes statewide
935
00:47:21,141 --> 00:47:23,610
than Republicans did,
but Republicans would win
936
00:47:23,744 --> 00:47:24,745
lopsided majorities.
937
00:47:25,646 --> 00:47:28,549
You had Pennsylvania
where Democrats won more votes
938
00:47:28,815 --> 00:47:30,050
and Republicans walked away
939
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:31,384
with a thirteen
to five advantage.
940
00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:35,088
Michigan where Democrats
won more votes
941
00:47:35,221 --> 00:47:37,524
and Republicans had
a nine to five advantage.
942
00:47:39,459 --> 00:47:40,861
North Carolina.
943
00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:43,463
Wisconsin.
944
00:47:45,498 --> 00:47:47,333
All of these states
at either the congressional
945
00:47:47,467 --> 00:47:50,737
or legislative level saw
Democratic candidates
946
00:47:50,871 --> 00:47:52,873
win more votes statewide
but Republicans
947
00:47:53,006 --> 00:47:54,407
win a majority of seats.
948
00:47:56,276 --> 00:47:58,078
David: Republicans could not
be beaten
949
00:47:58,378 --> 00:47:59,813
and they were not beaten.
950
00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:03,517
even when their side
got many fewer votes.
951
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,385
And what you immediately see
952
00:48:05,552 --> 00:48:07,187
in all of these
gerrymandered states
953
00:48:07,353 --> 00:48:11,124
is the rapid movement
of a very conservative agenda
954
00:48:11,257 --> 00:48:12,626
through state legislatures.
955
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,462
Reporter: A new bill
being considered in Wisconsin
956
00:48:16,597 --> 00:48:18,298
would allow
local school districts
957
00:48:18,431 --> 00:48:19,766
to make sex education
958
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,735
and teaching
contraception optional.
959
00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:24,104
Reporter 2: Republicans here
called a special session
960
00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:26,540
to pass House Bill 2,
more commonly known
961
00:48:26,707 --> 00:48:28,074
as the "Bathroom Bill".
962
00:48:28,208 --> 00:48:30,944
A recent move by the legislature
removes one route
963
00:48:31,077 --> 00:48:32,813
to recourse in wage disputes.
964
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,149
It started the moment
the General Assembly
965
00:48:36,282 --> 00:48:37,450
went into session.
966
00:48:37,618 --> 00:48:39,252
We're on
the 10th order of business,
967
00:48:39,385 --> 00:48:42,055
second reading of amendments
and senate bill.
968
00:48:42,188 --> 00:48:44,057
A legislative
blitzkrieg would be
969
00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:46,059
the way I would describe it.
970
00:48:47,761 --> 00:48:49,095
Bob: There was anti‐regulation,
971
00:48:49,229 --> 00:48:50,631
anti‐environment.
972
00:48:50,864 --> 00:48:52,332
Senate Speaker: The clerk
will close the role,
973
00:48:52,465 --> 00:48:53,900
Assembly Amendment 3
is adopted.
974
00:48:54,234 --> 00:48:55,736
Sachin: Defund public schools.
975
00:48:55,869 --> 00:48:58,672
Sly: Destabling and going after
Planned Parenthood.
976
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,173
Concealed carry
was another issue
977
00:49:00,306 --> 00:49:01,975
that they fought
for a long time.
978
00:49:02,108 --> 00:49:03,276
Democratic governor
would veto it,
979
00:49:03,409 --> 00:49:04,578
they were able
to put that through.
980
00:49:04,711 --> 00:49:06,212
Reporter:
Another gun rights bill
981
00:49:06,346 --> 00:49:07,781
is on the table
to protect drivers
982
00:49:07,914 --> 00:49:10,016
who carry their firearms
inside their vehicles
983
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:11,384
and go to work.
984
00:49:11,952 --> 00:49:13,119
If you wonder,
985
00:49:13,554 --> 00:49:16,590
"Why do we see representatives
that are doing things
986
00:49:16,723 --> 00:49:18,659
that their constituents
don't want?"
987
00:49:18,925 --> 00:49:22,328
"Why are laws being passed
that don't seem to reflect
988
00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:23,864
the wishes of the public?"
989
00:49:24,297 --> 00:49:26,967
Gerrymandering is a big part
of the explanation.
990
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,836
One legislator stood
on the floor and said,
991
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:31,237
"We are now in power,
992
00:49:31,371 --> 00:49:33,139
and we're going
to exercise that power,
993
00:49:33,273 --> 00:49:35,475
and you all can sit back
and forget about it."
994
00:49:35,609 --> 00:49:39,412
Protesters: Bring back,
bring back,
995
00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:42,649
oh, bring back Wisconsin to me.
996
00:49:43,449 --> 00:49:44,818
Ari: People began wondering,
997
00:49:44,951 --> 00:49:46,987
"Where are all
of these laws coming from?"
998
00:49:47,621 --> 00:49:51,491
The fact that Wisconsin,
Michigan, North Carolina,
999
00:49:51,625 --> 00:49:54,460
Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania,
they're all passing
1000
00:49:54,595 --> 00:49:57,130
virtually identical pieces
of legislation,
1001
00:49:57,263 --> 00:50:00,000
that's not a coincidence,
someone is behind this.
1002
00:50:06,873 --> 00:50:08,274
Chris: ALEC stands for
1003
00:50:08,408 --> 00:50:10,310
the American Legislative
Exchange Council
1004
00:50:10,443 --> 00:50:14,414
and the goal of ALEC
is to push out policies
1005
00:50:14,548 --> 00:50:17,450
to maximize corporate profits
at the state level.
1006
00:50:17,851 --> 00:50:22,455
This has been a goal
of the right for decades.
1007
00:50:24,558 --> 00:50:27,360
Ari: This is a shadow arm
of the Republican party.
1008
00:50:28,662 --> 00:50:31,598
You have corporations
literally writing bills
1009
00:50:31,732 --> 00:50:33,499
in conjunction
with state legislators
1010
00:50:33,634 --> 00:50:34,968
and then state legislators
1011
00:50:35,101 --> 00:50:37,137
introducing those bills
to become law.
1012
00:50:52,318 --> 00:50:55,121
How many of our Christians
have what I call
1013
00:50:55,255 --> 00:50:56,923
the goo‐goo syndrome?
1014
00:50:57,423 --> 00:51:01,361
Good government,
they want everybody to vote.
1015
00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:03,930
I don't want
everybody to vote.
1016
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:07,100
Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
1017
00:51:07,233 --> 00:51:08,334
they never have been
1018
00:51:08,468 --> 00:51:09,402
from the beginning
of our country,
1019
00:51:09,536 --> 00:51:10,937
and they are not now.
1020
00:51:11,104 --> 00:51:13,173
As a matter of fact,
our leverage in the elections
1021
00:51:13,306 --> 00:51:14,474
quite candidly goes up
1022
00:51:14,641 --> 00:51:16,510
as the voting populace
goes down.
1023
00:51:16,677 --> 00:51:18,645
Reporter: A developing story,
a voter ID bill in Wisconsin
1024
00:51:18,779 --> 00:51:20,614
is moving on
to the full assembly.
1025
00:51:20,747 --> 00:51:22,783
The measure would
require voters to show
1026
00:51:22,916 --> 00:51:24,450
their ID's at the polls.
1027
00:51:25,185 --> 00:51:28,622
Ari: I first became aware
of ALEC after the 2010 election
1028
00:51:28,755 --> 00:51:31,658
when we began to see all
of these new voter ID laws.
1029
00:51:31,792 --> 00:51:34,194
And it was clear
that these voter ID laws
1030
00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:37,230
had been written by ALEC
after the 2008 election,
1031
00:51:37,363 --> 00:51:39,766
because we saw
the model bill, we saw the bill
1032
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,267
that had ALEC's name on it.
1033
00:51:41,535 --> 00:51:43,570
Reporter: Republicans say
their intent
1034
00:51:43,704 --> 00:51:45,371
is to eliminate voter fraud
1035
00:51:45,572 --> 00:51:47,974
by requiring a photo ID
from anyone
1036
00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:49,342
who votes in Wisconsin.
1037
00:51:49,576 --> 00:51:51,678
They have advanced
these model bills
1038
00:51:51,812 --> 00:51:53,046
on voter identification
1039
00:51:53,179 --> 00:51:57,350
by creating this lie
that somehow
1040
00:51:57,483 --> 00:51:59,352
people are impersonating people
at the polls.
1041
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,454
Reporter: Republicans say
this will cut down
1042
00:52:01,588 --> 00:52:03,790
on documented election fraud
in the state.
1043
00:52:04,591 --> 00:52:06,593
Ari: It's only when you begin
to understand
1044
00:52:06,793 --> 00:52:10,030
that in fact voter fraud
is an incredibly small problem
1045
00:52:10,163 --> 00:52:11,397
in American elections.
1046
00:52:11,632 --> 00:52:13,299
Then you begin to realize
that all of these laws
1047
00:52:13,433 --> 00:52:15,368
were passed for
an entirely different reason.
1048
00:52:15,501 --> 00:52:17,270
It had nothing to do
with voter fraud,
1049
00:52:17,403 --> 00:52:19,139
it was all about trying
to prevent
1050
00:52:19,272 --> 00:52:20,507
Democratic‐leaning voters
1051
00:52:20,641 --> 00:52:22,408
from being able
to cast a ballot.
1052
00:52:24,310 --> 00:52:27,113
Gerry: Instead of trying to
reach out to minority voters,
1053
00:52:27,247 --> 00:52:30,116
they said, "No, now that we've
gerrymandered the districts,
1054
00:52:30,316 --> 00:52:31,484
we're going to go after
1055
00:52:31,618 --> 00:52:32,886
and suppress
those voting rights."
1056
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,688
Those bills would have
never been passed
1057
00:52:34,921 --> 00:52:37,357
but for the gerrymandering
that took place.
1058
00:52:46,299 --> 00:52:48,468
Vann: In the '90s,
North Carolina was actually
1059
00:52:48,602 --> 00:52:51,204
really progressive
when it came to voting rights.
1060
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,777
I'm a North Carolinian
and lots of my family
1061
00:52:57,077 --> 00:53:00,981
were the people that gained
the ability to vote.
1062
00:53:01,882 --> 00:53:04,317
They liked being able
to register at license offices,
1063
00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:06,186
they liked early voting.
1064
00:53:06,887 --> 00:53:09,055
They loved what's known
as Souls to the Polls,
1065
00:53:09,455 --> 00:53:11,424
which is early
voting on Sunday.
1066
00:53:12,793 --> 00:53:15,228
I've talked to people
who had that sense of joy,
1067
00:53:15,361 --> 00:53:16,930
who've had, for the first time
in their lives,
1068
00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:18,064
a sense of belongingness.
1069
00:53:18,865 --> 00:53:22,603
Anita: The process opened up,
more people were voting,
1070
00:53:22,969 --> 00:53:24,370
and percentagewise,
1071
00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:26,239
African American
registration levels
1072
00:53:26,372 --> 00:53:28,474
became more at parity
with whites.
1073
00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:31,377
And we turn to
a strict new voter ID law
1074
00:53:31,512 --> 00:53:32,913
in North Carolina,
1075
00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:35,849
which is putting a spotlight
on the broader national fight
1076
00:53:35,982 --> 00:53:39,185
over when and where
people can cast ballots.
1077
00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,755
What the new North Carolina
voting law did
1078
00:53:41,888 --> 00:53:44,357
was it rolled back almost
every single one
1079
00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:46,760
of those new provisions
that had been created
1080
00:53:47,027 --> 00:53:48,762
to add more black people
to the electorate.
1081
00:53:48,929 --> 00:53:51,131
It didn't just
include strict voter ID,
1082
00:53:51,264 --> 00:53:52,566
but it cut early voting,
1083
00:53:52,699 --> 00:53:54,367
it eliminated
same‐day voter registration,
1084
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:55,936
it eliminated
out‐of‐precinct voting,
1085
00:53:56,102 --> 00:53:58,672
it even eliminated
Citizens Awareness Month
1086
00:53:58,805 --> 00:54:00,406
which the state
of North Carolina
1087
00:54:00,674 --> 00:54:03,777
ran to encourage people
to register to vote.
1088
00:54:04,545 --> 00:54:05,912
Jeff: It was all about
1089
00:54:06,046 --> 00:54:07,981
suppressing
African American vote
1090
00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:10,651
in order to give Republicans
an extra one to three percent
1091
00:54:10,784 --> 00:54:12,519
which is the margin
of victory
1092
00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:14,621
in all of our competitive races.
1093
00:54:14,855 --> 00:54:16,557
So even though gerrymandering
has reduced
1094
00:54:16,690 --> 00:54:19,325
the number of competitive races
to only about 10 percent,
1095
00:54:19,459 --> 00:54:21,828
they wanted to reduce it
even more.
1096
00:54:22,028 --> 00:54:26,867
Ain't going to let
no extremists turn me around,
1097
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:31,071
turn me around,
turn me around.
1098
00:54:31,237 --> 00:54:33,439
Vann: I've interviewed people
who say now
1099
00:54:33,607 --> 00:54:35,408
they have lost their pride,
1100
00:54:35,542 --> 00:54:36,943
they've lost
that sense of belonging.
1101
00:54:37,077 --> 00:54:40,246
And that's a lot deeper than
just the nuts and bolts
1102
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:41,682
of a partisan advantage.
1103
00:54:45,018 --> 00:54:47,320
Anita: There was a client
that I represented,
1104
00:54:47,521 --> 00:54:48,922
she was born at home
with a midwife,
1105
00:54:49,055 --> 00:54:50,691
didn't have a birth certificate,
couldn't get an ID.
1106
00:54:51,457 --> 00:54:55,228
She went to vote in person
and she was turned away.
1107
00:54:55,929 --> 00:54:59,132
It's humiliating when you go
and say, "I'm a citizen,
1108
00:54:59,265 --> 00:55:01,001
I have the right to vote,
I would like to vote,"
1109
00:55:01,134 --> 00:55:02,736
and everyone else
around you is voting,
1110
00:55:02,869 --> 00:55:04,971
and they turn you away
and say, "No you can't vote."
1111
00:55:05,105 --> 00:55:06,306
It is humiliating.
1112
00:55:14,748 --> 00:55:16,583
Stephen: Republicans see
their time running out
1113
00:55:16,717 --> 00:55:18,519
when it comes
to the demographics.
1114
00:55:18,819 --> 00:55:21,087
They see that the country
is getting less white,
1115
00:55:21,221 --> 00:55:25,058
more educated,
and overall just more diverse.
1116
00:55:25,959 --> 00:55:27,561
David: What they
have come up with
1117
00:55:28,028 --> 00:55:31,064
is a plan to try
and stem that tide.
1118
00:55:31,798 --> 00:55:35,969
It starts with gerrymandering,
it starts with drawing lines
1119
00:55:36,136 --> 00:55:39,606
that give them the ability
to win all of these districts.
1120
00:55:41,074 --> 00:55:44,611
The second part of this process
is voter suppression tactics
1121
00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:47,180
designed to make it harder
for Democrats
1122
00:55:47,313 --> 00:55:51,051
and minorities to exercise
the right to vote.
1123
00:55:52,686 --> 00:55:55,488
It's not a bunch
of disparate parts,
1124
00:55:55,689 --> 00:55:58,291
it's not like
one voter suppression law here,
1125
00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,226
one gerrymandering law here,
this is part of a concerted
1126
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,963
this is part of a concerted
national strategy
1127
00:56:03,096 --> 00:56:04,397
by the Republican party
1128
00:56:04,531 --> 00:56:07,367
that's being undertaken
all across the country
1129
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,537
including in so many
important swing states.
1130
00:56:26,653 --> 00:56:29,189
Brad: We battled
to get voter ID on the ballot
1131
00:56:29,322 --> 00:56:31,391
for the November '16 election.
1132
00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:35,061
How many of your listeners
really honestly are sure
1133
00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,998
that President Trump was going
to win Wisconsin
1134
00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:39,700
if we didn't have voter ID
1135
00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:43,604
to keep Wisconsin's elections
clean and honest?
1136
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:48,241
Ari: I absolutely think
you can draw a line
1137
00:56:48,408 --> 00:56:50,343
line between
he voter suppression efforts
1138
00:56:50,476 --> 00:56:53,113
and the gerrymandering efforts
and election results.
1139
00:56:54,715 --> 00:56:55,849
We are seeing efforts
1140
00:56:55,982 --> 00:56:58,018
to undermine
the very core values
1141
00:56:58,184 --> 00:56:59,553
of American democracy.
1142
00:56:59,753 --> 00:57:02,122
Nothing is more fundamental
in America
1143
00:57:02,255 --> 00:57:03,757
than having the right to vote,
1144
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:05,792
and having
the right to representation,
1145
00:57:06,059 --> 00:57:08,695
and those two core values
have been undermined
1146
00:57:08,829 --> 00:57:10,931
by this new assault
on democracy.
1147
00:57:23,443 --> 00:57:25,679
‐ Ruth: Hello.
‐ Bill: Hello, great to see you.
1148
00:57:25,812 --> 00:57:27,948
Ruth: You too, how are you?
1149
00:57:28,381 --> 00:57:29,482
It looks good, right?
1150
00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:30,851
Woman: Hi, Bill.
1151
00:57:31,618 --> 00:57:33,253
Nick: Good to see you,
how are you?
1152
00:57:33,386 --> 00:57:34,387
‐ Hello.
‐ Hi!
1153
00:57:34,521 --> 00:57:35,656
Congratulations,
1154
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,090
I've been watching
your campaign.
1155
00:57:37,357 --> 00:57:38,559
‐ Plaintiff: Thank you.
‐ Ruth: That's very exciting.
1156
00:57:38,692 --> 00:57:40,761
Hey, Mary Lynne,
good to see you.
1157
00:57:44,430 --> 00:57:47,534
(indistinct chatter)
1158
00:57:49,269 --> 00:57:50,571
I just want to be sure
1159
00:57:50,704 --> 00:57:53,006
that everybody
gets to know Don Winter,
1160
00:57:53,139 --> 00:57:55,676
who hasn't been to one
of these meetings before.
1161
00:57:55,809 --> 00:57:57,110
These are all
your fellow planners, Don.
1162
00:57:57,243 --> 00:58:01,047
Emily Bunting, Janet Mitchell,
that's a lawyer.
1163
00:58:01,181 --> 00:58:03,216
(laughs)
1164
00:58:04,718 --> 00:58:06,787
Well one question I had,
too, about this election,
1165
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,321
about
the Supreme Court election‐‐
1166
00:58:08,454 --> 00:58:11,057
I've never met an epidemiologist
that didn't get nailed!
1167
00:58:11,191 --> 00:58:12,325
Nick: Hello.
1168
00:58:12,458 --> 00:58:14,060
Hey, how are you?
Good to see you.
1169
00:58:15,596 --> 00:58:18,532
That's Ruth,
that's Nick, Annabelle,
1170
00:58:18,665 --> 00:58:21,267
you know the names, I'm sure.
Peter Earle.
1171
00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:27,974
Nick: We did meet through
our involvement in this field.
1172
00:58:28,208 --> 00:58:31,712
Our relationship has sort
of fueled the lawsuit,
1173
00:58:31,845 --> 00:58:33,213
but then at the same time,
the lawsuit,
1174
00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:37,684
it's sort of
a mutually reinforcing circle.
1175
00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:39,920
Maybe coming from abroad,
I have less
1176
00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:41,688
of a sense of the status quo.
1177
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,958
So when I see something,
like the fact that legislators
1178
00:58:45,091 --> 00:58:46,993
are allowed to draw
their own district lines,
1179
00:58:47,193 --> 00:58:49,429
I'm more easily able
to say, "Well why?"
1180
00:58:49,563 --> 00:58:50,831
Like that doesn't make
any sense.
1181
00:58:50,964 --> 00:58:52,733
Can we sit out there
so we can look at maps?
1182
00:58:52,866 --> 00:58:54,635
I brought all the maps
on the wall.
1183
00:58:54,901 --> 00:58:57,437
I thought it might be useful
to hear from all of you
1184
00:58:57,571 --> 00:58:58,939
about your districts
1185
00:58:59,205 --> 00:59:01,207
to understand what's wrong
with your districts as they are.
1186
00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:03,276
So, maybe would all
of you feel comfortable,
1187
00:59:03,409 --> 00:59:05,612
we have the map at the moment,
you're welcome to come up
1188
00:59:05,746 --> 00:59:07,147
point and tell me
what you like,
1189
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,982
and what you don't like,
and what you would prefer.
1190
00:59:09,115 --> 00:59:11,852
We were taken out
of our district
1191
00:59:11,985 --> 00:59:16,623
and attached to
a strongly Republican district.
1192
00:59:16,857 --> 00:59:20,093
I really feel that
our vote is a wash.
1193
00:59:20,393 --> 00:59:23,530
No matter what I do
or what we do as Democrats,
1194
00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,032
we can't get
a representative elected.
1195
00:59:26,366 --> 00:59:29,570
We're sort of in exile
down in Grant County
1196
00:59:29,703 --> 00:59:33,540
and I have
these two secure Republicans
1197
00:59:33,674 --> 00:59:38,244
who do not bother with me.
1198
00:59:38,478 --> 00:59:40,180
This is the district now,
and you can look,
1199
00:59:40,313 --> 00:59:42,048
like it goes up here
a little bit.
1200
00:59:42,182 --> 00:59:45,018
You can look at how crazy it is
with all these different lines,
1201
00:59:45,151 --> 00:59:46,920
but what's interesting,
you'll notice,
1202
00:59:47,053 --> 00:59:49,523
here's the city of Portage,
it goes around the city lines,
1203
00:59:49,656 --> 00:59:50,824
the city of Portage.
1204
00:59:50,957 --> 00:59:52,492
That's a Democratic‐‐
Excludes it.
1205
00:59:52,626 --> 00:59:54,127
It goes right around
the city limits.
1206
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,863
Here is the city of Compass,
this is a Democratic city,
1207
00:59:56,997 --> 00:59:59,099
it goes right around
the city lines
1208
00:59:59,232 --> 01:00:00,166
and keeps it out.
1209
01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:03,036
So they took
the four largest municipalities
1210
01:00:03,169 --> 01:00:05,305
and went right around
the city lines.
1211
01:00:05,438 --> 01:00:08,308
It's a very good example
of gerrymandering.
1212
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:11,512
Ari: The Whitford plaintiffs
realized
1213
01:00:11,645 --> 01:00:13,914
there was no legislative fix
to gerrymandering.
1214
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,851
Democrats were never going
to be able to win enough seats
1215
01:00:18,018 --> 01:00:20,921
under the gerrymandered maps
to have any sort of impact,
1216
01:00:21,054 --> 01:00:23,256
so they had to attack
this in the courts,
1217
01:00:23,389 --> 01:00:25,726
and they had to attack it
in an innovative way.
1218
01:00:25,892 --> 01:00:27,594
Ruth: If you are on the side
that you say
1219
01:00:27,728 --> 01:00:30,163
gerrymandering
isn't unconstitutional...
1220
01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:33,299
Ari: But no federal court
had ever outlawed
1221
01:00:33,433 --> 01:00:35,702
partisan gerrymandering before.
1222
01:00:36,537 --> 01:00:37,804
And to succeed,
1223
01:00:37,938 --> 01:00:39,305
the Whitford plaintiffs
had to show
1224
01:00:39,439 --> 01:00:41,808
that Republicans
deliberately intended
1225
01:00:41,975 --> 01:00:44,645
to deprive Democrats
of representation.
1226
01:00:49,049 --> 01:00:50,483
Peter:
We're trying to figure out,
1227
01:00:50,617 --> 01:00:52,853
how are we going to get a case
before the court
1228
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,989
that could once and for all
resolve this problem?
1229
01:00:56,623 --> 01:00:58,058
And we saw an avenue here.
1230
01:00:59,259 --> 01:01:01,762
We immediately demanded
that Republicans
1231
01:01:01,895 --> 01:01:03,597
in
the Wisconsin state legislature
1232
01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:07,333
give us all of the documents
from the secret mapping room
1233
01:01:07,568 --> 01:01:09,836
related to
the redistricting process.
1234
01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,173
All the emails,
all the iterations of the maps,
1235
01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:16,442
and they responded to us that,
"No, you don't get
1236
01:01:16,577 --> 01:01:19,412
this information.
This information is privileged."
1237
01:01:20,581 --> 01:01:23,383
The court said, "No, you have
to give them these documents.
1238
01:01:23,517 --> 01:01:25,185
You're required to
produce this information,
1239
01:01:25,318 --> 01:01:27,187
this is not something
you can hide from the public."
1240
01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:35,328
Doug: We knew
that they weren't being
1241
01:01:35,495 --> 01:01:37,731
completely forthcoming
in all of the information
1242
01:01:37,864 --> 01:01:38,799
they were providing to us.
1243
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,435
There were some spreadsheets
that were created
1244
01:01:42,603 --> 01:01:43,737
by the mapmakers,
1245
01:01:44,004 --> 01:01:46,339
but we noticed
that for some reason,
1246
01:01:46,472 --> 01:01:50,343
we didn't have any spreadsheets
in April, or in May,
1247
01:01:50,544 --> 01:01:53,346
or I think June, also, of 2011.
1248
01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:57,483
And so we hired
a computer forensic expert
1249
01:01:57,618 --> 01:01:59,452
to look through
the hard drives to see
1250
01:01:59,586 --> 01:02:02,055
if he could come up
with any spreadsheets
1251
01:02:02,188 --> 01:02:05,091
from that time frame
where they were missing.
1252
01:02:07,628 --> 01:02:09,462
Mark: The first thing
that struck me
1253
01:02:09,596 --> 01:02:12,365
is one
of the external hard drives
1254
01:02:12,498 --> 01:02:17,804
had screws on the bottom
that had a number of scratches.
1255
01:02:18,471 --> 01:02:20,006
This lead me to believe
1256
01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:24,444
that someone had disassembled
this external hard drive.
1257
01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:32,553
I also determined that a piece
of commercial wiping software
1258
01:02:32,686 --> 01:02:36,122
had been downloaded
and executed.
1259
01:02:36,256 --> 01:02:38,725
And in one hard drive
we identified
1260
01:02:38,859 --> 01:02:41,995
almost one million
deleted files.
1261
01:02:43,229 --> 01:02:47,033
Someone did not want us
to see what had been
1262
01:02:47,167 --> 01:02:48,869
on those hard drives.
1263
01:02:52,472 --> 01:02:55,542
Doug: Mark was able to recover
dozens of spreadsheets.
1264
01:02:56,643 --> 01:02:58,845
And these spreadsheets
turned out to be
1265
01:02:58,979 --> 01:03:00,280
what we would see
as smoking gun evidence
1266
01:03:00,413 --> 01:03:01,314
in the case.
1267
01:03:03,550 --> 01:03:05,719
Mark: The spreadsheets
told a story
1268
01:03:06,286 --> 01:03:10,156
about how these maps
were being drawn,
1269
01:03:11,324 --> 01:03:14,728
and how these
were different scenarios
1270
01:03:14,861 --> 01:03:16,496
that were being played out.
1271
01:03:16,997 --> 01:03:19,533
It was as though
they were testing.
1272
01:03:21,635 --> 01:03:23,570
Sachin: You look at each
successive spreadsheet
1273
01:03:23,704 --> 01:03:26,106
and you can see the maps
getting more and more biased.
1274
01:03:26,372 --> 01:03:29,342
They started at 49 seats
at their basic map,
1275
01:03:29,475 --> 01:03:32,579
then go up to 52 seats,
and 55 seats, then 57 seats,
1276
01:03:32,713 --> 01:03:34,581
and 58 seats, and 59 seats.
1277
01:03:36,216 --> 01:03:37,784
What they were doing
was they're reducing
1278
01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:39,319
the number of competitive seats.
1279
01:03:40,521 --> 01:03:43,690
They got pretty quickly
to 59 seats for themselves.
1280
01:03:43,824 --> 01:03:45,626
I think there were four
or five iterations
1281
01:03:45,759 --> 01:03:47,360
of the map at 59.
1282
01:03:47,861 --> 01:03:49,630
Then they take the 59‐seat map
and they continue
1283
01:03:49,763 --> 01:03:51,164
and they continue to tweak it
1284
01:03:51,632 --> 01:03:53,499
subjecting it
to this analysis to say,
1285
01:03:53,634 --> 01:03:55,435
well what if the Democrats
do really well?
1286
01:03:55,602 --> 01:03:58,905
What if our candidates lose
the argument with the voters?
1287
01:04:00,206 --> 01:04:01,708
On that final map,
1288
01:04:01,875 --> 01:04:04,545
even under the scenario
of the Democrats winning
1289
01:04:04,678 --> 01:04:07,614
the vote by the biggest margin
they've ever won
1290
01:04:07,748 --> 01:04:09,049
in modern Wisconsin history,
1291
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:11,852
the Republicans would still get
59 seats minimum
1292
01:04:11,985 --> 01:04:13,086
in the state assembly.
1293
01:04:13,587 --> 01:04:16,990
That's an astonishing
manipulation of democracy.
1294
01:04:17,157 --> 01:04:18,424
I mean think
about it for a second.
1295
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,227
I mean, people elect
their representative
1296
01:04:21,361 --> 01:04:23,429
and representatives
are accountable to the people
1297
01:04:23,564 --> 01:04:24,464
who elect them.
1298
01:04:24,798 --> 01:04:26,900
And, um... But if you do this,
1299
01:04:27,634 --> 01:04:30,203
if you were able
to gerrymander effectively,
1300
01:04:30,336 --> 01:04:33,740
and egregiously, and durably
for an entire 10‐year period,
1301
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:35,141
there's no accountability.
1302
01:04:35,308 --> 01:04:37,511
They can do whatever
the hell they want
1303
01:04:37,644 --> 01:04:40,380
and that is what they
have been doing in Wisconsin.
1304
01:04:40,647 --> 01:04:41,648
Peter: Good morning.
1305
01:04:42,182 --> 01:04:45,552
I'm Peter Earle
and I'm the lead trial lawyer
1306
01:04:45,986 --> 01:04:48,154
in this lawsuit
which we filed today.
1307
01:04:57,130 --> 01:04:59,232
Peter:
When one party gains control
1308
01:04:59,365 --> 01:05:02,736
of all the levers of government
and then stacks the deck
1309
01:05:02,869 --> 01:05:04,571
in their favor
to keep control
1310
01:05:04,705 --> 01:05:06,472
regardless of the will
of the people,
1311
01:05:06,607 --> 01:05:10,310
the very heart and soul
of our democracy is weakened.
1312
01:05:10,677 --> 01:05:14,080
There had never been
a successful opinion of any sort
1313
01:05:14,214 --> 01:05:15,516
in this kind of a case.
1314
01:05:16,517 --> 01:05:19,753
I'm always a pessimist when
it comes to litigation.
1315
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,956
I thought that our odds
of winning a trial
1316
01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:24,925
were less than 50 percent.
1317
01:05:25,058 --> 01:05:26,259
Federal Court rules today
1318
01:05:26,392 --> 01:05:28,028
that Wisconsin state
voting districts
1319
01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:30,731
drawn up by Republicans
are unconstitutional.
1320
01:05:30,864 --> 01:05:33,466
I remember when it came out,
immediately, I called Nick.
1321
01:05:33,734 --> 01:05:37,003
She just yelled out,
you know, "We won, we won."
1322
01:05:37,170 --> 01:05:38,471
I was like, "You have
to come right now,
1323
01:05:38,605 --> 01:05:40,106
I'm going to buy champagne."
(laughs)
1324
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,341
(cork popping)
1325
01:05:41,642 --> 01:05:45,679
We were absolutely delighted
to actually see
1326
01:05:45,846 --> 01:05:47,247
a verdict in your favor,
1327
01:05:47,380 --> 01:05:48,982
you know,
for the first time in 30 years.
1328
01:05:49,149 --> 01:05:50,283
It was awesome.
1329
01:06:01,494 --> 01:06:03,229
David: This is the single
biggest case for the future
1330
01:06:03,363 --> 01:06:05,231
of our democracy since
Citizens United.
1331
01:06:05,398 --> 01:06:09,235
This may be the last time
we have an opportunity
1332
01:06:09,369 --> 01:06:11,905
to do something
about partisan gerrymandering.
1333
01:06:12,205 --> 01:06:14,407
If they lose,
it's no holds barred.
1334
01:06:20,847 --> 01:06:23,316
(trolley bell rings)
1335
01:06:32,626 --> 01:06:34,728
Announcer: We'd like
to thank you all for joining us
1336
01:06:34,861 --> 01:06:37,163
from near and far,
crossing the country,
1337
01:06:37,297 --> 01:06:41,501
and crossing partisan lines
to focus on solutions.
1338
01:06:44,505 --> 01:06:47,440
Jamie: We're here
at the Unrig the System Summit
1339
01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:50,176
and we are mostly
just building connections.
1340
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:51,912
That guy you were
talking to said he would
1341
01:06:52,045 --> 01:06:53,614
introduce us to that funder.
1342
01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:55,415
Jamie: We're all volunteers
1343
01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:57,117
and we've never done
this before,
1344
01:06:57,250 --> 01:06:58,484
so we have a lot
to learn from people.
1345
01:06:58,619 --> 01:06:59,920
‐ Hey, Anna.
‐ Anna: Nice to meet you.
1346
01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:01,154
What organization are you with?
1347
01:07:01,287 --> 01:07:02,523
What's been really fun
about it
1348
01:07:02,656 --> 01:07:04,257
is that everybody knows
about us already.
1349
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:05,892
We're kind of famous.
1350
01:07:06,026 --> 01:07:07,561
I'm trying to be modest
about that.
1351
01:07:07,694 --> 01:07:08,995
‐ Sachin: Congratulations.
‐ Thank you.
1352
01:07:09,129 --> 01:07:10,363
Sachin: Thank you.
1353
01:07:10,496 --> 01:07:11,932
‐ On the app or...
‐ Sachin: I'm a fan.
1354
01:07:12,065 --> 01:07:13,199
Oh, great.
1355
01:07:13,366 --> 01:07:14,367
Sachin: I'm the director
in Wisconsin.
1356
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:15,435
Oh, awesome.
Can we connect?
1357
01:07:15,569 --> 01:07:17,003
Can we first take a selfie?
1358
01:07:17,170 --> 01:07:18,539
Yes, please, please,
that would be great.
1359
01:07:18,672 --> 01:07:20,874
Such amazing stuff
just in being all volunteer,
1360
01:07:21,007 --> 01:07:23,176
and engaging people,
it's really been amazing.
1361
01:07:23,309 --> 01:07:24,578
Katie: He is my lawyer.
1362
01:07:24,711 --> 01:07:26,246
(Katie laughs)
1363
01:07:30,717 --> 01:07:32,352
I wish. (laughs)
1364
01:07:33,019 --> 01:07:34,220
So, you got my text?
1365
01:07:34,387 --> 01:07:35,789
Katie: What was your text?
1366
01:07:35,922 --> 01:07:37,624
It's before you speak,
Heather and I want to talk
1367
01:07:37,758 --> 01:07:40,360
to you about how to find a
way to get a money pitch in.
1368
01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:41,928
If you talk about
where we're at.
1369
01:07:42,062 --> 01:07:43,396
‐ Just, I mean...
‐ Mm‐hmm.
1370
01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:45,265
That's how we're
starting is "Where are you at?"
1371
01:07:45,398 --> 01:07:47,467
Where we're at,
quite honestly where we're at
1372
01:07:47,601 --> 01:07:49,369
is we're waiting
for the Board of Canvassers,
1373
01:07:49,502 --> 01:07:51,037
but frankly we're raising money.
1374
01:07:51,171 --> 01:07:52,472
I'm Katie Fahey,
1375
01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:54,908
I'm with an organization
called Voters Not Politicians.
1376
01:07:55,041 --> 01:07:57,944
Kathay: One of the things
that they're now
having to figure out
1377
01:07:58,078 --> 01:08:00,547
is how do we go from being
1378
01:08:00,681 --> 01:08:03,216
a citizen signature
gathering effort
1379
01:08:03,416 --> 01:08:04,851
to a campaign?
1380
01:08:05,251 --> 01:08:07,187
And how do we start to talk to
1381
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,289
a much broader universe
of people,
1382
01:08:09,523 --> 01:08:11,925
some of whom will be told
by the opposition
1383
01:08:12,058 --> 01:08:13,459
that this is a power grab
1384
01:08:13,594 --> 01:08:15,328
and you should never
vote for it.
1385
01:08:19,099 --> 01:08:20,400
Yeah.
1386
01:08:24,905 --> 01:08:26,773
Fight, oh my god, we know.
1387
01:08:31,878 --> 01:08:33,179
Bill: What about
1388
01:08:33,446 --> 01:08:34,981
the Voters Not Politicians
ballot proposal?
1389
01:08:35,115 --> 01:08:36,750
If that gets on the ballot,
do you think it's going to pass,
1390
01:08:36,883 --> 01:08:38,885
and does that cause
a big problem for Republicans
1391
01:08:39,019 --> 01:08:39,953
going forward?
1392
01:08:40,086 --> 01:08:41,254
I don't think it will pass,
1393
01:08:41,387 --> 01:08:42,789
but also when you talked
in your intro
1394
01:08:42,923 --> 01:08:45,826
about, this is some 27‐year‐old
miraculously came up
1395
01:08:45,992 --> 01:08:48,394
and organization came together,
I don't believe it.
1396
01:08:48,529 --> 01:08:49,830
I believe when you
peel behind it,
1397
01:08:49,963 --> 01:08:52,032
you are going to see
that this has all been
1398
01:08:52,165 --> 01:08:53,333
constructed by Democrats.
1399
01:08:53,466 --> 01:08:54,901
‐ But you think it will fail?
‐ I do.
1400
01:08:57,037 --> 01:09:01,007
David: The opposition
is being led by Robert LaBrant.
1401
01:09:01,842 --> 01:09:04,077
LaBrant gets his start
in politics working
1402
01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:05,445
for the Chamber of Commerce
1403
01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:09,482
and he is the maestro
of redistricting in Michigan.
1404
01:09:09,650 --> 01:09:11,918
As far as ballot questions
are concerned,
1405
01:09:12,052 --> 01:09:15,021
I've spent most of my summer
trying to work out
1406
01:09:15,188 --> 01:09:19,092
a legal strategy to get one
of the ballot question proposals
1407
01:09:19,225 --> 01:09:20,193
off the ballot.
1408
01:09:21,127 --> 01:09:24,097
David: LaBrant understood
before anybody else
1409
01:09:24,230 --> 01:09:28,168
just how crucial these
redistricting fights could be.
1410
01:09:28,301 --> 01:09:30,804
Every 10 years
we do redistricting in Michigan
1411
01:09:30,937 --> 01:09:33,640
and I've kind of made that
a kind of specialization.
1412
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,250
Democrats tend to cluster in
urban cities
1413
01:09:44,651 --> 01:09:48,254
and Republicans are kind of
more evenly spread out.
1414
01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:51,825
In drawing district lines
based upon
1415
01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,494
traditional
redistricting criteria,
1416
01:09:54,661 --> 01:09:57,330
Democrats have a lot
of wasted votes.
1417
01:09:57,898 --> 01:09:59,833
I don't think that's
a direct result
1418
01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:03,436
of Republican gerrymandering,
it's just a fact of life.
1419
01:10:08,642 --> 01:10:11,044
David: The real intent
of LaBrant
1420
01:10:11,211 --> 01:10:13,346
and the other Republicans
in Michigan
1421
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:16,082
was revealed
in a series of emails
1422
01:10:16,249 --> 01:10:19,553
exchanged between them during
the redistricting process
1423
01:10:19,686 --> 01:10:20,987
in 2011.
1424
01:10:41,441 --> 01:10:43,777
The emails show
that they gerrymandered
1425
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:45,612
the state intentionally.
1426
01:11:05,131 --> 01:11:07,568
Nancy: So, for everyone
who doesn't know,
1427
01:11:07,701 --> 01:11:10,103
we've gotten sued officially.
1428
01:11:10,336 --> 01:11:13,507
Um, they have filed a suit
with the court of appeals
1429
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,209
saying that our petition touches
too many parts
1430
01:11:16,342 --> 01:11:17,477
of the constitution,
1431
01:11:17,844 --> 01:11:20,246
and so it's a wholesale revision
and not something
1432
01:11:20,380 --> 01:11:24,484
that's appropriate
for a ballot initiative.
1433
01:11:24,818 --> 01:11:27,487
Jeremy: Any time you want to
change something in Michigan,
1434
01:11:27,754 --> 01:11:31,324
any time you want to have
a citizen‐led effort
1435
01:11:31,457 --> 01:11:33,927
to take back control
over what's happening
1436
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:35,195
in state government,
1437
01:11:35,328 --> 01:11:36,763
you better come
with a lot of money
1438
01:11:36,997 --> 01:11:39,800
because there's going to be
a lot of money on the opposition
1439
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,103
funding their lawyers
to challenge everything.
1440
01:11:44,104 --> 01:11:47,473
This move is another one
of those fundamental things
1441
01:11:47,608 --> 01:11:49,209
that's wrong
with our democracy.
1442
01:11:49,342 --> 01:11:51,878
It's one of those things where,
like, it's not really right.
1443
01:11:52,012 --> 01:11:54,815
Like, we have the right
to petition our government,
1444
01:11:54,948 --> 01:11:56,983
and gather signatures,
and get it on the ballot,
1445
01:11:57,117 --> 01:12:00,153
and then they're trying
to do, like say that we can't.
1446
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:01,988
Although we knew
we were going to get sued,
1447
01:12:02,122 --> 01:12:03,924
it's not right that we are.
1448
01:12:11,164 --> 01:12:13,767
Hey, everybody,
I wanted to do an update.
1449
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,703
Normally I do this either
on a Facebook Live,
1450
01:12:16,837 --> 01:12:22,208
or with an interview group,
or a number of things.
1451
01:12:22,342 --> 01:12:27,514
You know, like an hour ago
I was feeling so good.
1452
01:12:27,648 --> 01:12:29,115
Point of pride
that I've always had
1453
01:12:29,249 --> 01:12:31,552
is that we've done things
the way that, like,
1454
01:12:31,685 --> 01:12:33,854
you hope that they're done.
Um...
1455
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:41,795
I think that
with this court case
1456
01:12:41,928 --> 01:12:46,499
it's made it feel
really real that...
1457
01:12:59,846 --> 01:13:04,084
there's a lot of power out there
that controls a lot
1458
01:13:04,217 --> 01:13:06,620
of things that you don't get
to be in control over,
1459
01:13:06,753 --> 01:13:08,454
that you can try
and work as hard as you can,
1460
01:13:08,589 --> 01:13:09,956
but, you know,
1461
01:13:10,090 --> 01:13:12,893
a misplaced comma
or a word can throw things out.
1462
01:13:13,026 --> 01:13:16,262
And it feels really real
right now,
1463
01:13:16,462 --> 01:13:22,536
the pressure feels on,
um, because...
1464
01:13:30,376 --> 01:13:32,412
what if something does happen?
1465
01:13:34,047 --> 01:13:37,584
What if it's not possible
for a group of people
1466
01:13:37,718 --> 01:13:39,820
to band together and...
1467
01:13:41,988 --> 01:13:44,057
try as hard as they can and...
1468
01:13:45,759 --> 01:13:47,928
what if it still
doesn't matter?
1469
01:13:52,498 --> 01:13:54,535
I don't want to
disappoint anybody.
1470
01:14:00,406 --> 01:14:01,742
(clicking)
1471
01:14:05,478 --> 01:14:09,082
(traffic noise)
1472
01:14:10,917 --> 01:14:13,386
Reporter: The U. S. Supreme Court
will now decide
1473
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,223
whether the maps
that determine who you vote for
1474
01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:18,659
are constitutional.
1475
01:14:18,892 --> 01:14:21,094
Judy: The case on
partisan gerrymandering
1476
01:14:21,261 --> 01:14:24,330
has the potential
to reshape American politics
1477
01:14:24,464 --> 01:14:25,699
as we know it.
1478
01:14:29,636 --> 01:14:30,737
Hey, Peter.
1479
01:14:31,171 --> 01:14:32,205
Hello.
1480
01:14:32,806 --> 01:14:34,708
‐ Welcome.
‐ Good to see you guys.
1481
01:14:34,841 --> 01:14:36,142
Peter: Hey, welcome.
1482
01:14:36,276 --> 01:14:37,644
Ruth: Okay, we'll get
the lawyers in now.
1483
01:14:37,778 --> 01:14:38,679
Male speaker:
All right, lawyers.
1484
01:14:38,812 --> 01:14:39,613
Ruth: With you, with you.
1485
01:14:39,746 --> 01:14:40,914
Stay, stay, stay.
1486
01:14:41,214 --> 01:14:42,749
Photographer: One more,
look serious,
1487
01:14:42,883 --> 01:14:44,317
like you're trying
to save democracy.
1488
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:45,619
(laughter)
1489
01:14:45,752 --> 01:14:47,654
This is what
democracy looks like.
1490
01:14:47,788 --> 01:14:49,155
(camera shutter clicks)
1491
01:14:51,525 --> 01:14:52,826
(camera clicks)
1492
01:14:53,093 --> 01:14:54,294
Ruth: It's a little weird
to have so much
1493
01:14:54,427 --> 01:14:55,696
of the world focusing on this.
1494
01:14:55,896 --> 01:14:57,731
I got woken up at 6:30
with my dad calling me
1495
01:14:57,898 --> 01:15:00,667
saying that he saw Nick,
my co‐counsel and husband,
1496
01:15:00,801 --> 01:15:03,604
on Australian TV
talking about the case.
1497
01:15:05,105 --> 01:15:07,340
We've had a countdown
on our whiteboard in Chicago.
1498
01:15:07,473 --> 01:15:09,109
Somebody rang me and was like,
"Oh, don't you have
1499
01:15:09,242 --> 01:15:10,844
a case in the next,
you know, few months?"
1500
01:15:10,977 --> 01:15:14,114
I was like, "It's in five days,
now it's four days."
1501
01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:15,381
Yeah, we're nearly there.
1502
01:15:15,682 --> 01:15:19,620
(indistinct chatter)
1503
01:15:21,087 --> 01:15:22,422
Paul: Um, so how about this?
1504
01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:23,790
As this case illustrated,
1505
01:15:23,924 --> 01:15:25,659
it's now possible to draw
a district map
1506
01:15:25,792 --> 01:15:27,694
that is so extremely
and durably biased
1507
01:15:27,828 --> 01:15:30,296
that democracy itself
is gravely compromised?
1508
01:15:31,264 --> 01:15:33,534
Nick: Paul is the
best possible person
1509
01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:34,935
in America to do this.
1510
01:15:35,401 --> 01:15:36,737
He is one of the country's
1511
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:39,172
best respected
Supreme Court specialists
1512
01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:41,775
who also has
a particular expertise
1513
01:15:41,908 --> 01:15:44,010
in election law
and redistricting.
1514
01:15:44,144 --> 01:15:45,712
Paul: You look
at the first election,
1515
01:15:45,846 --> 01:15:46,947
you do sensitivity testing,
1516
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,615
what does
the sensitivity testing
1517
01:15:48,749 --> 01:15:49,783
have to show?
1518
01:15:49,916 --> 01:15:51,652
Nick: For the Plaintiff to win?
1519
01:15:51,785 --> 01:15:53,019
‐ Yes.
‐ Nick: Uh...
1520
01:15:53,153 --> 01:15:55,155
That over a plausible range
of outcomes...
1521
01:15:55,288 --> 01:15:56,957
Paul: I think everybody
gets nervous before they argue
1522
01:15:57,090 --> 01:15:58,692
in the Supreme Court.
1523
01:15:58,825 --> 01:16:01,427
The most important thing
is to be extremely well prepared
1524
01:16:02,028 --> 01:16:03,864
and know what you're going
to say first.
1525
01:16:03,997 --> 01:16:05,799
Because once you start talking,
it's usually okay.
1526
01:16:05,932 --> 01:16:07,801
What you want to do is get
to the green light point,
1527
01:16:07,934 --> 01:16:09,570
which is basically, "This court
therefore has a choice,
1528
01:16:09,703 --> 01:16:11,237
either use the standards
we've given you
1529
01:16:11,371 --> 01:16:14,074
to limit this abusive practice,
or give a green light
1530
01:16:14,207 --> 01:16:16,109
to the gerrymanderers
to have at it."
1531
01:16:17,277 --> 01:16:20,180
‐ I like have at it. (laughs)
‐ I do too. (laughs)
1532
01:16:25,586 --> 01:16:27,588
Paul: We got very close
to winning the Vieth case,
1533
01:16:27,721 --> 01:16:29,055
as it became known.
1534
01:16:29,322 --> 01:16:32,392
We got four votes to say that
the map was unconstitutional.
1535
01:16:32,693 --> 01:16:34,127
There were four votes to say
1536
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:35,896
that the issue
is a political question
1537
01:16:36,029 --> 01:16:37,531
that shouldn't be
in the courts at all.
1538
01:16:37,664 --> 01:16:39,533
That was the opinion written
by Justice Scalia.
1539
01:16:39,666 --> 01:16:40,601
Justice Scalia:
The basic problem
1540
01:16:40,734 --> 01:16:42,202
is that some degree
1541
01:16:42,368 --> 01:16:44,270
of political motivation
and affect in districting
1542
01:16:44,404 --> 01:16:46,139
is not unconstitutional.
1543
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:47,908
Paul: And then there
was Justice Kennedy,
1544
01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:49,710
who was in the middle.
1545
01:16:56,082 --> 01:16:58,852
Nick: Kennedy is telling
the legal community
1546
01:16:58,985 --> 01:17:00,521
and
the social science community,
1547
01:17:00,654 --> 01:17:02,122
you know, "I'm interested.
1548
01:17:02,255 --> 01:17:06,860
I'm willing to tackle
this undemocratic practice,
1549
01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:11,364
but I need some assurance
that there's a reliable,
1550
01:17:11,497 --> 01:17:12,799
workable test."
1551
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,168
And so at the moment
1552
01:17:15,536 --> 01:17:17,971
fighting partisan
gerrymandering in the courts
1553
01:17:18,104 --> 01:17:19,973
means coming up
with a standard
1554
01:17:20,106 --> 01:17:22,208
that would be persuasive
to Justice Kennedy.
1555
01:17:23,409 --> 01:17:25,712
Sachin: We could not
have done more to answer
1556
01:17:25,846 --> 01:17:27,881
that call for a standard.
1557
01:17:28,014 --> 01:17:30,350
To say, "This is the case,
if there's any case
1558
01:17:30,617 --> 01:17:32,018
in which you have
to draw the line
1559
01:17:32,152 --> 01:17:34,054
and say it's unconstitutional
and wrong."
1560
01:17:35,355 --> 01:17:38,124
(indistinct chatter)
1561
01:17:38,859 --> 01:17:40,961
Gerry: There are few times
in your life
1562
01:17:41,094 --> 01:17:42,763
when you get to particularly
be my age,
1563
01:17:42,996 --> 01:17:44,364
you look back and you say,
1564
01:17:44,497 --> 01:17:46,466
you know, "There were times
when I could have made
1565
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,069
a difference and did I step up
to the plate
1566
01:17:49,202 --> 01:17:51,371
and do what
I really needed to do
1567
01:17:51,538 --> 01:17:52,939
and have the courage to do it?"
1568
01:17:53,073 --> 01:17:55,542
And the plaintiffs
in this case
1569
01:17:55,809 --> 01:17:57,243
stood up for
what they believed in.
1570
01:17:57,477 --> 01:17:59,646
We are at a real crossroads
and I think the window
1571
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:02,583
is going to close on whether
or not we can really bring about
1572
01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:03,884
this reform
1573
01:18:04,017 --> 01:18:05,919
if we don't get it done
in this case.
1574
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:11,457
Reporter: All eyes will be
on the U. S. Supreme Court
1575
01:18:11,592 --> 01:18:14,227
as it hears a Wisconsin case
challenging the way
1576
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,863
the state's legislative
districts are drawn.
1577
01:18:16,997 --> 01:18:18,464
Reporter 2:
The legal question is,
1578
01:18:18,599 --> 01:18:20,801
can we even measure this?
Should we get into it?
1579
01:18:20,967 --> 01:18:23,837
Is this a political question
that we should stay out of?
1580
01:18:24,270 --> 01:18:28,008
And can we define
what's extreme gerrymandering?
1581
01:18:28,208 --> 01:18:29,843
‐ Woman: Rise up!
‐ Protesters: Fight back!
1582
01:18:29,976 --> 01:18:33,446
‐ Woman: Rise up!
‐ Protesters: Fight back!
1583
01:18:33,580 --> 01:18:35,315
It's a fixed system.
1584
01:18:35,549 --> 01:18:37,618
It's a fixed system,
that's what gerrymandering
1585
01:18:37,751 --> 01:18:38,985
is all about.
1586
01:18:39,185 --> 01:18:41,421
Congress will never, ever fix
this problem
1587
01:18:41,688 --> 01:18:44,157
because they have one interest
and one interest only
1588
01:18:44,290 --> 01:18:46,059
and this is to stay in power.
1589
01:18:48,629 --> 01:18:51,031
Paul: Mr. Chief Justice
and may it please the court,
1590
01:18:51,397 --> 01:18:53,967
what the state is asking
for here is a free pass
1591
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,836
to continue using
an assembly map
1592
01:18:55,969 --> 01:18:57,303
that is so extreme
1593
01:18:57,503 --> 01:18:59,439
that it effectively
nullifies democracy.
1594
01:18:59,573 --> 01:19:03,176
(text being read)
1595
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,096
Paul: Hi, everyone,
I'm Paul Smith,
1596
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:59,265
I argued the case this morning
for the plaintiffs
1597
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:00,333
from Wisconsin.
1598
01:20:00,734 --> 01:20:04,538
We hope that the court
will see its way clear to say
1599
01:20:04,671 --> 01:20:07,107
this is not only
a constitutional violation,
1600
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,610
it's a constitutional violation
for which there is
1601
01:20:09,743 --> 01:20:12,278
a meaningful judicial remedy.
1602
01:20:15,115 --> 01:20:16,617
Paul: One thing I don't do
is come out in front
1603
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:18,952
of a bunch of cameras
and predict Justice's votes,
1604
01:20:19,085 --> 01:20:21,755
but I do think he understood
our position
1605
01:20:21,888 --> 01:20:23,123
and that he seems
quite concerned
1606
01:20:23,256 --> 01:20:25,425
about where
the country is right now.
1607
01:20:25,759 --> 01:20:26,827
Thank you, everybody.
1608
01:20:27,393 --> 01:20:28,762
Ruth: There were
some great lines,
1609
01:20:28,895 --> 01:20:29,863
did you think of them yesterday?
1610
01:20:29,996 --> 01:20:31,197
Just real zingers.
1611
01:20:31,331 --> 01:20:33,066
Like the festival
of gerrymandering
1612
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,435
the likes of which
we have never seen.
1613
01:20:39,205 --> 01:20:41,207
Doug: Well you heard
Justice Sotomayor's comments,
1614
01:20:41,341 --> 01:20:43,910
you know, I mean you did this,
and then you did this,
1615
01:20:44,077 --> 01:20:45,712
and then you did this
to really ratchet up
1616
01:20:45,846 --> 01:20:47,080
the representation.
1617
01:20:47,213 --> 01:20:48,615
That was all based on
the spreadsheets
1618
01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:50,751
that you had recovered
for us on the hard drives.
1619
01:20:51,184 --> 01:20:54,020
I'm glad it worked out,
fingers crossed, we'll see.
1620
01:20:54,154 --> 01:21:01,127
(cheering and applause)
1621
01:21:04,364 --> 01:21:07,333
I do want to say
that you get to be a star
1622
01:21:07,467 --> 01:21:09,903
of the day one day
if you're a Supreme Court guy.
1623
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:12,573
But the case is made
in the trenches
1624
01:21:12,739 --> 01:21:17,177
and this case was really made
with all of you,
1625
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,845
the plaintiffs, the lawyers.
1626
01:21:18,979 --> 01:21:20,313
If we didn't have
that foundation,
1627
01:21:20,446 --> 01:21:21,948
we wouldn't have been
in the Supreme Court.
1628
01:21:22,082 --> 01:21:24,651
So hope springs,
we're going to do it.
1629
01:21:24,785 --> 01:21:25,852
Thank you, everybody.
1630
01:21:25,986 --> 01:21:29,756
(applause)
1631
01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:31,858
(laughs)
1632
01:21:31,992 --> 01:21:34,861
Peter: We have brought together
some of the best minds
1633
01:21:35,061 --> 01:21:36,763
in the legal community...
1634
01:21:37,463 --> 01:21:39,465
and we have studied,
so carefully,
1635
01:21:39,700 --> 01:21:42,102
the Supreme Court's
jurisprudence on this question
1636
01:21:42,235 --> 01:21:43,537
and built an evidentiary record
1637
01:21:43,670 --> 01:21:47,641
that is so complete
that I'm confident
1638
01:21:47,774 --> 01:21:48,909
we're going to win,
1639
01:21:49,075 --> 01:21:50,210
I'm confident
we're going to win.
1640
01:21:50,711 --> 01:21:53,647
I'll tell you, the future
of our democracy depends on it.
1641
01:21:57,117 --> 01:22:04,290
(engines revving)
1642
01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:08,028
Ruth: Here we go,
somebody says,
1643
01:22:08,228 --> 01:22:09,495
"Is there any chance
of the gerrymandering cases
1644
01:22:09,630 --> 01:22:10,597
being decided today?"
1645
01:22:10,731 --> 01:22:11,898
Of course there is.
1646
01:22:12,098 --> 01:22:13,834
I mean, so I think
we're mentally prepared
1647
01:22:14,067 --> 01:22:15,736
for a win,
obviously it's fantastic, right?
1648
01:22:15,869 --> 01:22:18,605
But we've talked over
the loss like so many times
1649
01:22:18,739 --> 01:22:21,174
that I think we're prepared
if that happens.
1650
01:22:21,708 --> 01:22:22,809
9:00 o'clock sharp.
1651
01:22:22,943 --> 01:22:24,377
Ruth: Okay, come on.
1652
01:22:27,614 --> 01:22:30,283
Nick: Last decision,
Washington v. United Sates?
1653
01:22:30,684 --> 01:22:32,285
What's
Washington v. United States?
1654
01:22:32,418 --> 01:22:33,954
Ruth: I don't know,
but that means it's not us.
1655
01:22:34,154 --> 01:22:35,155
All right.
1656
01:22:35,321 --> 01:22:36,422
Ruth: (sighs) We can relax.
1657
01:22:36,557 --> 01:22:38,291
Okay, I bet it's next Monday.
1658
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:41,327
I don't know why I'm so calm
now that I think about it,
1659
01:22:41,461 --> 01:22:43,463
it's going to be very
stressful if it comes.
1660
01:22:43,797 --> 01:22:44,998
I just think it's not.
1661
01:22:45,165 --> 01:22:46,733
I just had a very detailed dream
that like,
1662
01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:49,970
Roberts announced the opinion,
just like, you know,
1663
01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:51,605
went after us on standing.
1664
01:22:51,872 --> 01:22:54,541
Like ruled against us
on every single possible issue.
1665
01:22:54,675 --> 01:22:56,442
Ruth: I think it's called
a nightmare, Nick.
1666
01:22:58,278 --> 01:23:00,313
Second Minnesota
Voters Alliance.
1667
01:23:00,446 --> 01:23:02,816
Oh, Mansky is reversed
and remanded.
1668
01:23:02,983 --> 01:23:04,217
Nick: Is that it?
1669
01:23:04,484 --> 01:23:05,418
Second and final opinion,
oh yeah, we're done.
1670
01:23:05,552 --> 01:23:06,920
‐ (sighs)
‐ Woo‐hoo!
1671
01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:08,121
‐ Not today.
‐ Nick: That's a wrap.
1672
01:23:08,254 --> 01:23:09,455
(all chuckle)
1673
01:23:16,096 --> 01:23:18,264
(groans)
1674
01:23:18,398 --> 01:23:19,600
Nick: Need more coffee.
1675
01:23:19,733 --> 01:23:21,334
(laughs)
1676
01:23:21,802 --> 01:23:22,869
I bet this is happening.
1677
01:23:23,036 --> 01:23:24,504
Ruth: Ah! Don't freak me out.
1678
01:23:25,471 --> 01:23:27,508
But I'm excited, but I'm scared,
but I'm excited.
1679
01:23:27,708 --> 01:23:29,976
Is Annabelle coming here
if there's a decision, just now?
1680
01:23:30,110 --> 01:23:32,112
‐ Ruth: Mm‐hmm.
‐ All right.
1681
01:23:33,847 --> 01:23:36,617
Oh my God, it's our case,
oh my God,
1682
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:38,451
it's Gill
from the Chief Justice.
1683
01:23:38,585 --> 01:23:40,854
Holy shit, oh my God, look.
1684
01:23:40,987 --> 01:23:42,956
(barking)
1685
01:23:43,089 --> 01:23:44,490
Look.
1686
01:23:45,959 --> 01:23:48,094
‐ (panting)
‐ (barking)
1687
01:23:48,228 --> 01:23:49,462
Quiet.
1688
01:23:50,096 --> 01:23:51,532
Holy shit, it's ours.
1689
01:23:52,398 --> 01:23:54,034
Oh my God,
I'm going to be sick.
1690
01:23:54,167 --> 01:23:55,435
It is Gill, it is Roberts.
1691
01:23:55,769 --> 01:23:57,203
‐ F‐‐‐, why is it Roberts?
‐ What is it? What is it?
1692
01:23:57,337 --> 01:23:58,605
Ruth: Okay,
it's here, it's here.
1693
01:24:00,006 --> 01:24:01,975
Reporter: You know the decision
is long and complex,
1694
01:24:02,108 --> 01:24:04,010
but a quick read of it tells me
that essentially
1695
01:24:04,177 --> 01:24:06,647
what the court has said
is that these plaintiffs
1696
01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,683
did not prove
that they had standing
1697
01:24:09,916 --> 01:24:12,786
and individualized harm
to bring the case.
1698
01:24:12,919 --> 01:24:15,556
This morning,
the Supreme Court not ruling
1699
01:24:15,689 --> 01:24:18,959
on partisan gerrymandering,
not putting forth a test
1700
01:24:19,092 --> 01:24:20,293
as to when to determine
1701
01:24:20,426 --> 01:24:22,462
there has been
partisan gerrymandering,
1702
01:24:22,596 --> 01:24:25,365
and really sort of punting
this issue for another day.
1703
01:24:25,566 --> 01:24:26,900
‐ Ruth: No!
‐ F‐‐‐ you.
1704
01:24:27,167 --> 01:24:28,334
F‐‐‐ you.
1705
01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:31,371
"Failed to demonstrate
Article 3 standing."
1706
01:24:31,672 --> 01:24:32,906
F‐‐‐, damn them.
1707
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:35,642
Really, like that's
your f‐‐‐ing decision ground?
1708
01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:38,444
Reporter: Now
the Supreme Court did say
1709
01:24:38,579 --> 01:24:40,480
that the challengers
can try again
1710
01:24:40,614 --> 01:24:42,048
to see if they can overcome
1711
01:24:42,182 --> 01:24:43,449
the legal obstacle
of getting through
1712
01:24:43,584 --> 01:24:45,285
the courthouse door
achieving standing,
1713
01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:47,353
showing that they have
a particular injury
1714
01:24:47,487 --> 01:24:49,556
and this case does go back
to the lower courts.
1715
01:24:49,690 --> 01:24:51,992
Oh, wait, so it is
vacated and remanded.
1716
01:24:52,358 --> 01:24:53,493
Oh, it is vacated and remanded?
1717
01:24:53,627 --> 01:24:54,828
Yeah, to go back, let's see.
1718
01:24:54,961 --> 01:24:56,162
Oh, wait.
1719
01:24:56,563 --> 01:24:57,931
Nick: We might be still alive,
it might be that like,
1720
01:24:58,064 --> 01:25:00,233
"Okay, you have to go back
and technically like get
1721
01:25:00,366 --> 01:25:02,836
some more plaintiffs
with some more allegations."
1722
01:25:06,339 --> 01:25:07,874
Barak: So, did you win or lose?
1723
01:25:08,008 --> 01:25:10,911
So, the court says that
in order to pursue a claim
1724
01:25:11,044 --> 01:25:14,548
like ours, you need
to identify specific people,
1725
01:25:14,681 --> 01:25:19,052
specific voters who live
in cracked or packed districts.
1726
01:25:19,219 --> 01:25:22,155
It's not enough
to just assert exclusively
1727
01:25:22,288 --> 01:25:24,357
a statewide harm
or a statewide injury.
1728
01:25:24,490 --> 01:25:26,527
We have some plaintiffs
ready to go,
1729
01:25:26,660 --> 01:25:28,328
we are ready
to amend our complaint,
1730
01:25:28,461 --> 01:25:29,730
and move forward.
1731
01:25:29,863 --> 01:25:32,098
So it's not, I mean,
it's not a disaster,
1732
01:25:32,232 --> 01:25:33,667
it's just frustrating
timewise.
1733
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,068
Barak: I can't tell,
are you disappointed,
1734
01:25:35,201 --> 01:25:36,369
are you not disappointed?
1735
01:25:36,502 --> 01:25:38,238
This is far
from the worst scenario.
1736
01:25:38,371 --> 01:25:40,240
Yes, I mean, it's frustrating
because we want
1737
01:25:40,373 --> 01:25:41,642
to just win, right?
1738
01:25:41,775 --> 01:25:43,076
Obviously, we want
to just freaking win.
1739
01:25:43,209 --> 01:25:45,245
But it's not a loss, right?
1740
01:25:45,411 --> 01:25:46,880
I mean we haven't lost,
we're still going,
1741
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,549
we still have things to say,
and it suggests we're going
1742
01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:50,150
to eventually win,
which is a good sign.
1743
01:25:50,283 --> 01:25:51,585
Yeah, I would say, too,
that like, you know,
1744
01:25:51,718 --> 01:25:53,820
before today, my estimate
of our odds
1745
01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:56,557
of ultimately winning
was below 50 percent.
1746
01:25:56,690 --> 01:25:58,458
Now I think it's above
50 percent
1747
01:25:58,592 --> 01:26:00,193
our odds of ultimately winning.
1748
01:26:03,229 --> 01:26:04,731
Reporter: We continue to follow
1749
01:26:04,865 --> 01:26:06,800
that bombshell announcement
out of Washington.
1750
01:26:07,033 --> 01:26:10,036
Supreme Court Justice
Anthony Kennedy is retiring.
1751
01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:12,773
The 81‐year‐old was nominated
by President Reagan
1752
01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:14,508
and served
on the country's highest court
1753
01:26:14,641 --> 01:26:16,409
for more than 30 years.
1754
01:26:17,844 --> 01:26:20,213
Ari: There is really no way
to sugar coat it.
1755
01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:22,082
The retirement
of Anthony Kennedy
1756
01:26:22,215 --> 01:26:23,884
was terrible news
for those people
1757
01:26:24,017 --> 01:26:26,820
that wanted to see
the court do something positive
1758
01:26:27,053 --> 01:26:28,121
on gerrymandering.
1759
01:26:28,321 --> 01:26:30,490
He was the only
conservative justice
1760
01:26:30,757 --> 01:26:32,526
that was at least open minded
1761
01:26:32,726 --> 01:26:34,895
about finding a solution
on this issue
1762
01:26:35,028 --> 01:26:35,962
and now he is gone.
1763
01:26:37,197 --> 01:26:39,733
David: It is now obvious
that the Supreme Court
1764
01:26:39,866 --> 01:26:42,502
is not going to be our savior
on partisan gerrymandering.
1765
01:26:42,636 --> 01:26:45,639
We may have to be
our own saviors.
1766
01:26:46,106 --> 01:26:49,409
People are trying to take back
these district lines
1767
01:26:49,543 --> 01:26:51,177
that have been rigged
against them.
1768
01:26:51,444 --> 01:26:54,347
They want a fair playing field.
1769
01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:02,856
The hope lies now
at the state level.
1770
01:27:03,156 --> 01:27:07,093
We are seeing around
the country, Michigan, Utah,
1771
01:27:07,227 --> 01:27:12,432
Colorado, Ohio, Missouri,
there are citizen pathways
1772
01:27:12,566 --> 01:27:14,267
moving forward.
1773
01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,202
These are red states,
these are blue states,
1774
01:27:16,336 --> 01:27:17,604
these are purple states.
1775
01:27:17,804 --> 01:27:19,305
These are states
that went for Trump,
1776
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,307
these are states
that went for Clinton.
1777
01:27:21,875 --> 01:27:25,846
This is going to be
the battlefield moving forward.
1778
01:27:31,785 --> 01:27:33,587
Reporter:
The Michigan Supreme Court
1779
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,356
is about to have
a political hot mess
1780
01:27:36,489 --> 01:27:37,691
dumped on its lap.
1781
01:27:37,924 --> 01:27:39,593
Reporter 2:
The Michigan Court of Appeals
1782
01:27:39,726 --> 01:27:41,828
said the ballot question meets
the legal requirements
1783
01:27:42,028 --> 01:27:44,464
and the voters should decide
in November.
1784
01:27:44,598 --> 01:27:46,366
Reporter 3: But the challengers
now plan
1785
01:27:46,499 --> 01:27:48,702
to go to
the state Supreme Court.
1786
01:27:56,442 --> 01:27:58,111
‐ Katie: Hey.
‐ How are you doing?
1787
01:27:58,278 --> 01:27:59,445
Good, how are you?
1788
01:27:59,613 --> 01:28:00,881
Good, do you mind
if I chat with you
1789
01:28:01,014 --> 01:28:02,482
‐ for a few minutes?
‐ Katie: No, not at all.
1790
01:28:02,616 --> 01:28:03,984
Reporter: Great, so how
do you feel about today?
1791
01:28:04,117 --> 01:28:05,218
Katie: We feel good.
1792
01:28:05,351 --> 01:28:06,219
You know,
it's exciting to be here
1793
01:28:06,352 --> 01:28:07,521
at the Hall of Justice.
1794
01:28:07,821 --> 01:28:09,389
We had a really strong
Court of Appeals opinion,
1795
01:28:09,523 --> 01:28:11,491
3‐0 decision saying
our opposition's case
1796
01:28:11,625 --> 01:28:13,560
is without merit
and we have every confidence
1797
01:28:13,694 --> 01:28:16,062
that we'll remain on the ballot
on November 6th.
1798
01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:21,868
I remember distinctly when
we were doing our town halls
1799
01:28:22,068 --> 01:28:24,037
that one of the top questions
I received was,
1800
01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:25,772
isn't it impossible
to do this?
1801
01:28:25,939 --> 01:28:27,407
Like, isn't it‐‐ Aren't you
going to get challenged
1802
01:28:27,541 --> 01:28:28,742
by the Supreme Court anyways?
1803
01:28:28,875 --> 01:28:30,076
So, we don't even have
language yet,
1804
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:31,344
we haven't like whatever,
1805
01:28:31,477 --> 01:28:32,713
and like the people
of Michigan
1806
01:28:32,846 --> 01:28:34,380
were already really worried
about that
1807
01:28:34,515 --> 01:28:36,717
because we consistently
have seen
1808
01:28:37,150 --> 01:28:40,053
opposition wanting
to undermine this process.
1809
01:28:40,186 --> 01:28:41,522
Good morning.
1810
01:28:41,855 --> 01:28:43,890
This is a special session
of the Michigan Supreme Court
1811
01:28:44,057 --> 01:28:46,593
to address
an emergency election matter.
1812
01:28:47,861 --> 01:28:50,296
Katie: The scary part is that
the Michigan Supreme Court
1813
01:28:50,463 --> 01:28:51,865
is a political body.
1814
01:28:52,132 --> 01:28:55,035
Our judges get nominated
from political parties.
1815
01:28:55,468 --> 01:28:58,572
Five of them were nominated
from the Republicans
1816
01:28:58,905 --> 01:29:01,474
and two of them came
from the Democrat side.
1817
01:29:02,175 --> 01:29:04,978
We know that the Michigan GOP
is applying a lot of pressure
1818
01:29:05,111 --> 01:29:07,648
to let them know how they
would like them to rule.
1819
01:29:08,148 --> 01:29:10,250
VNP Lawyer: The constitution
is very clear
1820
01:29:10,383 --> 01:29:13,654
that the people are the source
of all governmental power
1821
01:29:13,787 --> 01:29:16,623
and they have the ability
to define how the government
1822
01:29:16,757 --> 01:29:18,058
is going to be set up.
1823
01:29:18,324 --> 01:29:20,293
Judge: At the expense
of the people having their right
1824
01:29:20,426 --> 01:29:22,128
to elect representatives
as they've done
1825
01:29:22,262 --> 01:29:23,597
for two generations.
1826
01:29:24,064 --> 01:29:25,566
VNP Lawyer: I don't believe
this infringes that
1827
01:29:25,699 --> 01:29:26,933
whatsoever, Your Honor.
1828
01:29:27,067 --> 01:29:30,103
It substitutes 13 citizens
chosen at random
1829
01:29:30,403 --> 01:29:33,674
across this state in place
of a process in which
1830
01:29:33,807 --> 01:29:36,843
10 million people
have a direct participation
1831
01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:39,379
in the process by electing
their representatives
1832
01:29:39,513 --> 01:29:40,647
and senators.
1833
01:29:40,781 --> 01:29:42,716
Is that not
somewhat consequential?
1834
01:29:42,916 --> 01:29:44,818
I suppose the question
is whether they decide
1835
01:29:45,018 --> 01:29:47,287
that they want the legislature
to have this power,
1836
01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:48,589
or a commission,
1837
01:29:48,722 --> 01:29:49,990
or to do it
in some other fashion?
1838
01:29:50,123 --> 01:29:53,259
All power in our state
and in our nation
1839
01:29:53,393 --> 01:29:55,028
is derived
from the people, right?
1840
01:29:56,129 --> 01:29:58,164
Judge: Are there
any further questions?
1841
01:29:58,298 --> 01:29:59,900
We stand adjourned.
1842
01:30:02,803 --> 01:30:04,270
Katie: Yeah, sounds great.
1843
01:30:04,838 --> 01:30:06,206
Reporter: How are you doing?
1844
01:30:06,339 --> 01:30:07,307
Logged a big day, eh?
1845
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:08,374
Yeah.
1846
01:30:08,509 --> 01:30:09,442
Let's go here with the people...
1847
01:30:09,576 --> 01:30:10,677
Katie: Okay, sounds good.
1848
01:30:10,811 --> 01:30:11,712
So this is really
a fight against
1849
01:30:11,845 --> 01:30:13,113
status quo and change?
1850
01:30:13,580 --> 01:30:14,715
I believe it is.
1851
01:30:15,148 --> 01:30:16,583
Actually, I think it's a fight
about whether the people
1852
01:30:16,717 --> 01:30:18,018
of Michigan can be trusted
1853
01:30:18,151 --> 01:30:19,620
to amend own constitution
or not.
1854
01:30:19,753 --> 01:30:22,488
I feel like we
were fairly heard,
1855
01:30:22,623 --> 01:30:24,357
and that we left it
on the table,
1856
01:30:24,525 --> 01:30:29,530
and I think that what I heard
was that our constitution
1857
01:30:30,196 --> 01:30:33,600
is enshrined in letting
the people of our state
1858
01:30:33,734 --> 01:30:35,235
decide these issues.
1859
01:30:35,536 --> 01:30:36,803
Thanks, guys.
1860
01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:49,850
‐ (woman speaking)
‐ (Katie speaking)
1861
01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:51,618
Sit down, sit down.
1862
01:30:51,752 --> 01:30:54,220
Oh my God, Jenny, calm down.
1863
01:31:01,294 --> 01:31:04,464
(exclaiming, crying)
1864
01:31:14,575 --> 01:31:16,076
We have an election to win.
1865
01:31:16,276 --> 01:31:18,679
We know that our opposition
now knows that we are an army
1866
01:31:18,812 --> 01:31:21,815
and that we can apply pressure
in ways that they can't.
1867
01:31:21,948 --> 01:31:23,917
It is time to make it
so that we get
1868
01:31:24,050 --> 01:31:26,319
way over two million votes
for voting yes
1869
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,021
and so that people know what
1870
01:31:28,154 --> 01:31:30,356
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
1871
01:31:30,490 --> 01:31:31,725
can mean for Michigan.
1872
01:31:31,892 --> 01:31:34,460
It is time to knock some doors.
1873
01:31:34,828 --> 01:31:37,397
Canvasser: Good morning,
I'm a volunteer
1874
01:31:37,531 --> 01:31:39,733
from Voters Not Politicians.
1875
01:31:39,933 --> 01:31:43,904
Hi, we're volunteers
with Voters Not Politicians.
1876
01:31:44,204 --> 01:31:47,073
(knocking)
1877
01:31:47,307 --> 01:31:49,743
Arnold: I want to congratulate
the people of Michigan
1878
01:31:50,076 --> 01:31:52,278
for the great choice
and the great vote
1879
01:31:52,412 --> 01:31:53,947
of the Supreme Court.
1880
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,083
So that the people move
forward with the initiative
1881
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:59,853
and to have redistricting
happening in Michigan
1882
01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:02,789
because it's the voters
versus the politicians,
1883
01:32:02,923 --> 01:32:04,057
that's what this is all about.
1884
01:32:04,190 --> 01:32:06,092
We've got to go
and vote for the voters,
1885
01:32:06,226 --> 01:32:07,260
not the politicians.
1886
01:32:07,493 --> 01:32:10,230
(laughing) That's awesome. What?
1887
01:32:13,266 --> 01:32:15,001
Reporter: Proposal 2
is on the ballot,
1888
01:32:15,135 --> 01:32:17,671
Katie Fahey is supporting
the proposal
1889
01:32:17,838 --> 01:32:19,706
and of course conservative
Republican Jamie Roe
1890
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,007
doesn't like it at all.
1891
01:32:21,141 --> 01:32:23,376
Democrats lose races
in this state
1892
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:24,645
because they have
bad candidates,
1893
01:32:24,778 --> 01:32:26,479
not because we have bad lines.
1894
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,617
This is an unnecessary solution
to a problem that doesn't exist.
1895
01:32:30,751 --> 01:32:32,919
The people who draw the lines
now are accountable to each
1896
01:32:33,053 --> 01:32:35,188
and every one of us
at the ballot box,
1897
01:32:35,321 --> 01:32:36,557
the 13‐member star chamber
1898
01:32:36,690 --> 01:32:38,258
is going to be accountable
to nobody.
1899
01:32:38,391 --> 01:32:40,326
Opposition ad: Proposal 2,
deal breaker number one.
1900
01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:43,196
Proposal 2 gives 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1901
01:32:43,329 --> 01:32:45,566
absolute authority
in your constitution.
1902
01:32:45,699 --> 01:32:48,769
Proposal 2 lets 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1903
01:32:48,902 --> 01:32:51,404
vote themselves unlimited pay
and unlimited perks.
1904
01:32:51,538 --> 01:32:53,907
Convicted felons can
be picked as commissioners.
1905
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,909
It's 3,200 words.
1906
01:32:56,076 --> 01:32:58,745
Vote no on 2
or the joke's on you.
1907
01:33:00,146 --> 01:33:02,148
Katie: Something that is
super bothering me right now
1908
01:33:02,348 --> 01:33:04,918
is that robo‐call they did
from "Katie" urging them
1909
01:33:05,051 --> 01:33:07,120
to vote no on Prop 2 and 3.
1910
01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:10,123
Like there is no way you
just chose Katie out of a hat.
1911
01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:11,491
Jerks.
1912
01:33:11,725 --> 01:33:13,093
I'm tired.
1913
01:33:13,293 --> 01:33:14,595
(laughs)
1914
01:33:31,612 --> 01:33:38,719
(engines revving)
1915
01:33:41,588 --> 01:33:48,695
(traffic sounds)
1916
01:33:50,196 --> 01:33:52,298
Reporter: You are looking live
at democracy in action.
1917
01:33:52,498 --> 01:33:55,368
We're seeing huge numbers
of voters showing up today
1918
01:33:55,501 --> 01:33:56,803
at the polls.
1919
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:01,842
Katie: Are there door hangers
for today, we got asked.
1920
01:34:01,975 --> 01:34:03,143
They're here.
1921
01:34:03,409 --> 01:34:04,410
Katie: Aren't those
the same door hangers
1922
01:34:04,545 --> 01:34:05,812
we have been using?
1923
01:34:05,946 --> 01:34:07,113
VNP Volunteer: No,
it says, "vote today".
1924
01:34:07,247 --> 01:34:08,982
Katie: Oh, it does?
(gasps) Cute.
1925
01:34:10,450 --> 01:34:11,852
Reporter: So much more
1926
01:34:11,985 --> 01:34:13,353
than just candidates
on the ballot today,
1927
01:34:13,486 --> 01:34:14,955
we're taking a look
at three proposals
1928
01:34:15,088 --> 01:34:16,389
that could drastically change
1929
01:34:16,523 --> 01:34:18,058
what it means
to be a Michigan voter.
1930
01:34:18,458 --> 01:34:19,993
Reporter 2: Proposal 2
would create
1931
01:34:20,126 --> 01:34:21,662
an independent commission
1932
01:34:21,795 --> 01:34:23,997
to draw new legislative
and congressional districts
1933
01:34:24,130 --> 01:34:25,431
after each census.
1934
01:34:25,566 --> 01:34:27,568
Got some info on Prop 2
ending gerrymandering
1935
01:34:27,701 --> 01:34:28,735
in our state.
1936
01:34:28,902 --> 01:34:30,303
Thank you for voting.
1937
01:34:31,271 --> 01:34:32,272
Yeah.
1938
01:34:34,307 --> 01:34:36,209
Reporter: It's coming down
to the wire.
1939
01:34:36,342 --> 01:34:38,278
Reporter 2: About an hour left
to go before the polls close
1940
01:34:38,444 --> 01:34:40,981
across the state of Michigan
in these crucial
1941
01:34:41,114 --> 01:34:42,448
midterm elections.
1942
01:34:42,583 --> 01:34:43,650
Thank you.
1943
01:34:44,017 --> 01:34:45,586
‐ Volunteer: 8:01.
‐ 8:01.
1944
01:34:45,719 --> 01:34:46,920
Okay.
1945
01:34:47,087 --> 01:34:49,055
That's it,
there's nothing else we can do.
1946
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:51,091
We've done everything we can do.
1947
01:34:57,330 --> 01:35:00,133
Volunteer: It's almost
10:00 p. m. and you guys are,
1948
01:35:00,266 --> 01:35:04,671
it's only 11‐ish percent
reporting but you're up by...
1949
01:35:04,838 --> 01:35:06,072
Nine, only nine.
1950
01:35:06,206 --> 01:35:07,774
That doesn't make
me feel good.
1951
01:35:08,074 --> 01:35:10,110
I think, I wish
we were winning by more.
1952
01:35:10,243 --> 01:35:11,311
(laughs)
1953
01:35:11,545 --> 01:35:13,246
Just so I feel a little better,
but you know what?
1954
01:35:13,379 --> 01:35:14,114
That's okay.
1955
01:35:14,247 --> 01:35:15,616
I wish they would just be done.
1956
01:35:15,749 --> 01:35:16,850
Are you also
preparing the we lost?
1957
01:35:16,983 --> 01:35:18,351
Is there a good
gift for that too?
1958
01:35:18,484 --> 01:35:20,020
We lost, oh...
1959
01:35:20,153 --> 01:35:21,522
Reporter: Just taking
a look now at some
1960
01:35:21,655 --> 01:35:23,256
of the election results
still coming in right now.
1961
01:35:23,423 --> 01:35:24,791
Proposal 2 would
change the way
1962
01:35:24,925 --> 01:35:26,292
Michigan draws
its state house,
1963
01:35:26,426 --> 01:35:28,294
state senate,
and congressional districts.
1964
01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:31,231
And right now
the yes votes are well ahead.
1965
01:35:31,431 --> 01:35:33,033
Jamie: Do they call
the proposals
1966
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:34,701
later than they call candidates?
1967
01:35:34,835 --> 01:35:36,269
Who calls it?
1968
01:35:36,537 --> 01:35:37,738
Who are we waiting for?
1969
01:35:38,438 --> 01:35:40,306
Now that some
of the results are coming in,
1970
01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:42,509
I'm like, "Yeah, okay.
1971
01:35:42,943 --> 01:35:45,979
Okay, maybe, maybe,
maybe, maybe."
1972
01:35:48,481 --> 01:35:49,516
Katie: Who said it?
1973
01:35:50,551 --> 01:35:51,985
A bunch of news articles.
1974
01:35:52,118 --> 01:35:54,621
Katie: No, Elizabeth, you
believed in us
1975
01:35:54,755 --> 01:35:56,489
before like almost anybody did.
1976
01:35:56,857 --> 01:36:03,797
(cheering)
1977
01:36:04,698 --> 01:36:09,502
(cheering)
1978
01:36:09,836 --> 01:36:12,005
I just got told we called it.
1979
01:36:12,405 --> 01:36:15,375
Way to fucking change
the Michigan constitution.
1980
01:36:15,542 --> 01:36:16,943
How am I not crying?
1981
01:36:17,077 --> 01:36:19,880
How are you guys, I cry
all the time, you never cry.
1982
01:36:20,514 --> 01:36:22,215
Come here. Come here.
1983
01:36:23,349 --> 01:36:26,052
Aww. Okay, okay,
we should say something.
1984
01:36:26,186 --> 01:36:28,589
I feel like
we should say something.
1985
01:36:28,722 --> 01:36:30,524
Hey, guys, we won!
1986
01:36:30,657 --> 01:36:35,962
(cheering)
1987
01:36:36,296 --> 01:36:39,700
We f‐‐‐ing amended
the state constitution.
1988
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:43,469
Okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay.
1989
01:36:43,604 --> 01:36:45,606
I can't breathe, Kelly.
1990
01:36:45,739 --> 01:36:49,375
(cheering)
1991
01:36:53,146 --> 01:36:56,249
All political power
is inherent in the people!
1992
01:37:03,156 --> 01:37:06,292
There were three other states
across our country
1993
01:37:06,426 --> 01:37:08,128
who were trying
to end gerrymandering too.
1994
01:37:08,261 --> 01:37:10,363
We had Utah, Missouri,
and Colorado.
1995
01:37:10,864 --> 01:37:12,298
Missouri has been called,
1996
01:37:12,432 --> 01:37:14,935
they have also
officially ended gerrymandering,
1997
01:37:15,068 --> 01:37:16,803
heck yes!
1998
01:37:17,003 --> 01:37:19,606
(cheering)
1999
01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,877
Utah is almost called,
57 percent reporting
2000
01:37:24,010 --> 01:37:25,245
for changing lines.
2001
01:37:25,979 --> 01:37:30,250
In Colorado it was at
71.4 percent, 71!
2002
01:37:30,383 --> 01:37:34,454
(cheering)
2003
01:37:34,655 --> 01:37:36,923
This is not a moment,
but a movement.
2004
01:37:37,290 --> 01:37:39,626
The people of our country
are sick of this
2005
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,128
and if we don't come and say
that enough is enough,
2006
01:37:42,262 --> 01:37:43,664
then nothing is going to change.
2007
01:37:43,797 --> 01:37:46,266
But we have proven that
you can keep your integrity,
2008
01:37:46,533 --> 01:37:48,602
you can make it so
that you can invite anyone
2009
01:37:48,735 --> 01:37:51,037
to the table,
you can operate a campaign
2010
01:37:51,171 --> 01:37:52,338
in a transparent way
2011
01:37:52,573 --> 01:37:54,741
where we actually trust
the people of our state
2012
01:37:54,875 --> 01:37:55,976
to make decisions,
2013
01:37:56,142 --> 01:37:57,578
and it ends up
in a beautiful result
2014
01:37:57,711 --> 01:37:59,846
that unites thousands of people
and is about to unite
2015
01:37:59,980 --> 01:38:01,047
millions of people.
2016
01:38:01,181 --> 01:38:02,749
It mattered that you showed up,
2017
01:38:02,883 --> 01:38:04,184
it mattered
that you knocked doors,
2018
01:38:04,317 --> 01:38:05,652
it mattered
that you gathered signatures,
2019
01:38:05,786 --> 01:38:08,088
and stood in the rain,
in the cold, in the heat.
2020
01:38:08,354 --> 01:38:12,025
All of that mattered
for generations of people.
2021
01:38:12,158 --> 01:38:16,663
Your sacrifices have changed
our constitution.
2022
01:38:17,063 --> 01:38:18,765
The Michigan state constitution
opens with,
2023
01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:21,968
"All political power
is inherent in the people."
2024
01:38:22,402 --> 01:38:25,906
We are those people,
this is our power,
2025
01:38:26,206 --> 01:38:27,307
let's go have
2026
01:38:27,608 --> 01:38:29,142
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
2027
01:38:29,275 --> 01:38:31,377
that restores faith
in democracy.
2028
01:38:31,778 --> 01:38:33,013
Cheers.
2029
01:38:33,446 --> 01:38:36,082
(cheering)
2030
01:38:36,482 --> 01:38:38,018
And I think
we're ready to party.
2031
01:38:38,151 --> 01:38:41,522
(cheering)
2032
01:39:21,427 --> 01:39:22,929
Protesters: (chanting)
Respect our vote,
2033
01:39:23,063 --> 01:39:24,364
respect our vote,
2034
01:39:24,565 --> 01:39:28,034
respect our vote,
respect our vote.
2035
01:39:28,168 --> 01:39:30,136
All votes matters.
2036
01:39:30,270 --> 01:39:31,972
Voting rights
are human rights,
2037
01:39:32,105 --> 01:39:34,107
voting rights
are human rights.
2038
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,376
Show me what
democracy looks like.
2039
01:39:36,510 --> 01:39:38,979
This is what
democracy looks like.
2040
01:39:39,112 --> 01:39:41,347
Show me what
democracy looks like.
2041
01:39:41,515 --> 01:39:43,950
This is what
democracy looks like.
2042
01:39:44,084 --> 01:39:47,253
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2043
01:39:47,387 --> 01:39:50,090
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2044
01:39:50,223 --> 01:39:53,493
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
2045
01:39:53,627 --> 01:39:57,297
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.