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Here, set of aluminium saucepans.

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Never seen daylight, moonlight
or <i>Fanny By Gaslight.</i>

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<i>Growing up in London,
me and my mates</i>

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<i>used to hear our parents talking about
"the good old days".</i>

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<i>We asked ourselves,
"What was so good about them?"</i>

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<i>There was depression, unemployment,</i>

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<i>World War Il, the Blitz.</i>

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<i>And even when it was all over,
food was rationed.</i>

9
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The Cockneys were always
looked upon kindly in England,

10
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but in the way you look kindly upon

11
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- Mickey Mouse or puppets, you know?
- Yeah, yeah.

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They say, "Oh, aren't they nice?
Aren't they clever?" You know.

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As though they've wound you up
and you do something.

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Well, along came a generation
of which I'm probably about the oldest.

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I feel like a grandfather
with most of them.

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I'm 33.

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We decided that we weren't gonna be
Mickey Mouse any more,

18
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at least, we'd be people, you know,

19
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whether they liked it or not,
and that's what we did.

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<i>For the first time in British history,</i>

21
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<i>the young working class, people like me,
stood up for ourselves and said,</i>

22
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<i>"We are here, this is our society
and we are not going away."</i>

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What was it all about?

24
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I'm gonna show you.

25
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You're only supposed to blow
the bloody doors off!

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Britain in the 1950s
was stable, conventional,

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predictable and dull.

28
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But that's the way our parents liked it.

29
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My generation demanded a new beginning.

30
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<i>I wasn't always Michael Caine.</i>

31
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<i>I was born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite.</i>

32
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<i>My mother was a charlady, a cleaner.</i>

33
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<i>And my father was a Billingsgate
fish market porter.</i>

34
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<i>I was expected
to follow in his footsteps,</i>

35
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<i>but I hated the smell of fish.</i>

36
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Maurice Micklewhite, are you?

37
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Yes, I am.

38
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No.

39
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Oh, my God, aren't you like your father?

40
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Cos I didn't think anybody
would be left down here.

41
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Your mother and I
were very good friends.

42
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- Yes, you were, indeed. Yes.
- And your dear old father.

43
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The times we used to pick up
old Mrs Faulkner.

44
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Yeah! Off the floor.

45
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You remember those times,

46
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- don't you, boy?
- Yeah, I remember. I do.

47
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<i>As an English child grows,</i>

48
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<i>he becomes aware he has already
been assigned a place in a large game,</i>

49
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<i>a system as intricate
and elaborate as a maze.</i>

50
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<i>A maze of tradition,</i>

51
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<i>outmoded rules about who should succeed</i>

52
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<i>in the eyes of the establishment.</i>

53
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Discipline is indispensable
to a progressive and mature society.

54
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Given discipline in the home

55
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and school,

56
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in college and at the work bench,

57
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the foundations for happiness
are well-established.

58
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<i>My dad was just
an East End lad.</i>

59
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<i>My mum wanted something better for us.</i>

60
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<i>My dad was
a very talented musician</i>

61
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<i>but he had to go out and work.</i>

62
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<i>- As I'm sure your parents did.
- They did, yeah.</i>

63
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<i>So, all his dreams
about becoming a musician</i>

64
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<i>went out the window.</i>

65
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<i>As a kid, me and my friends</i>

66
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<i>spent as much time as possible
in the cinema.</i>

67
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<i>But the films we saw
had nothing to do with our lives.</i>

68
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<i>No heroes we could relate to.</i>

69
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<i>From the way they talked,</i>

70
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<i>I thought all the actors
were dukes and duchesses.</i>

71
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Pure satin.

72
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Satin? Lace, actually.

73
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No, Major, I meant your voice.

74
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I'm so desperately in love with you.

75
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Well, you really think you are.

76
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I can't eat or sleep
for thinking of you.

77
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- You know Mr Gore-Brown, my new boss.
- How do you do?

78
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Sir Henry Hazelrigg

79
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- and Major D'Arcy Davenport.
- How do you do?

80
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Well, welcome to the toughest way
of earning a living

81
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in this so-called civilised world,
Mr Gore-Brown.

82
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Not that my East End mates would
go and see <i>Brief Encounter</i>

83
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but for some reason, I saw it.

84
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It was a love story
about a middle-aged couple.

85
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And it was funny.

86
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I love you.

87
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"I love you."

88
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You love me, too.

89
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"I love you, too."

90
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Yes.

91
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I don't want to pretend anything,
either to you or to anyone else.

92
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What did she say?

93
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And the other one says,

94
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"She says, 'I love you.'

95
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"Shut up."

96
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I look down on him
because I am upper class.

97
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I look up to him
because he is upper class.

98
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But I look down on him
because he is lower class.

99
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I am middle class.

100
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I know my place.

101
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<i>We were supposed
to respect our betters.</i>

102
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<i>The nobs, the toffs,
the people who had all the power.</i>

103
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<i>The establishment, as we knew them.</i>

104
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<i>We were all brought up
to be servants.</i>

105
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<i>I mean, we were never gonna be
the masters.</i>

106
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Lady Lewisham, what do you
think about our teenagers?

107
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I think they're splendid,

108
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and I'm delighted
you asked me that question,

109
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cos I sometimes think
they get rather a raw deal.

110
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<i>This was
the first generation that had</i>

111
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<i>the potential to make
a mark at the time.</i>

112
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<i>But the older generation</i>

113
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<i>still clung to the days</i>

114
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<i>when Britain ruled over
half the civilised world.</i>

115
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<i>We'll arise like lions
and get our Empire back.</i>

116
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The bloody great British Empire

117
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that your bloody Labour rubbish
give away to,

118
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to the people it belonged to.

119
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<i>Whether we like it or not,</i>

120
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<i>the wind of change
is blowing through this country.</i>

121
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But we don't need generals any more.

122
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There isn't a war going on.

123
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I wasn't prepared
to follow any of the principles,

124
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morals, outlooks on life

125
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of what were, I laughingly call
"my betters".

126
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And which is what I was
actually taught at school,

127
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I was taught all about my betters.

128
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I never understood who my betters
were supposed to be.

129
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I've never seen any of my betters.

130
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I've seen a lot of my equals

131
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but I've still never seen
any of my betters.

132
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<i>From my generation,</i>

133
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<i>the Labour government coming in
in '45...</i>

134
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- <i>Yeah, yeah.
- ...the Health Service,</i>

135
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<i>the change of diet,</i>

136
00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:19,417
<i>- the change of healthcare...
- Yeah.</i>

137
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<i>...and good education for everybody.
I think that set the '60s up.</i>

138
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<i>I mean, you got
a very good education, too.</i>

139
00:13:26,055 --> 00:13:27,045
<i>Yeah, yeah.</i>

140
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<i>we didn't have
to pay for education.</i>

141
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<i>I loved it</i>

142
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<i>and I was very glad to
go to a grammar school.</i>

143
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<i>- I did.
- Did you?</i>

144
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<i>- Grammar school boys!
- Grammar school.</i>

145
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<i>Come on! Give it up
for grammar school.</i>

146
00:13:38,109 --> 00:13:40,977
<i>Well, I always say to people, you know,
I got this real posh education</i>

147
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<i>for nothing.</i>

148
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<i>I always wanted to be
an actress</i>

149
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<i>and my father said,
"No, no, you can't be an actress.</i>

150
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<i>"It's terrible.
It's a terrible profession.</i>

151
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<i>"And I want you to go
to a secretarial school</i>

152
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<i>"and find a good man, get married
and have a nice life."</i>

153
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<i>There was this kinda
science teacher when I was about 12,</i>

154
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<i>he showed me how to develop film.</i>

155
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<i>So I used to go down my mum's cellar.</i>

156
00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:08,133
<i>I used to nick the chemicals from school
and process film</i>

157
00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:09,429
<i>from my mother's Brownie</i>

158
00:14:10,308 --> 00:14:11,719
<i>to see if I could photograph birds.</i>

159
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:13,342
<i>Birds?</i>

160
00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,427
<i>Oh, I was quite interested
in ornithology.</i>

161
00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:17,604
<i>Oh, I thought...
Oh, sorry, I mistook that.</i>

162
00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,273
<i>No, no.
OK, I get it now, yeah.</i>

163
00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:25,112
<i>When I saw Elvis,
it did something to me.</i>

164
00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,905
<i>And it wasn't just the song,</i>

165
00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,699
<i>and it wasn't just the fact that
everybody was talking about it.</i>

166
00:14:29,786 --> 00:14:32,073
<i>It was something animalistic.</i>

167
00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:37,707
<i>I'd seen someone that was free.</i>

168
00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:40,582
<i>Completely and utterly free.</i>

169
00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:43,163
<i>And I thought, "I've gotta do that.
I've gotta do... I've gotta be...</i>

170
00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:44,247
<i>"That's what I wanna do."</i>

171
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I wanted to be an actor
from the age of 10

172
00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:04,693
but I mean, people with my accent
and background

173
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hardly ever became actors.

174
00:15:08,157 --> 00:15:09,739
But I was in a school play

175
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and when I came on,

176
00:15:12,787 --> 00:15:14,153
I immediately got a laugh

177
00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:17,034
because my flies were undone.

178
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But

179
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I was hooked.

180
00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:23,336
So, you know, when he was working,

181
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he was always miles away, you know,
dreaming what he was gonna be

182
00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:28,587
and what he wasn't gonna be and

183
00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:31,887
- we used to think he was a bit cranky.
- We used to think he was a nutcase,

184
00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:33,089
didn't we? Let's face it.

185
00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,512
To be honest, I was happy

186
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,768
just to make a few quid
being an actor in repertory.

187
00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:41,851
Playing in draughty theatres,

188
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:44,058
living in draughty rooms.

189
00:15:45,236 --> 00:15:47,694
I never thought that I would be famous.

190
00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:49,521
Never.

191
00:15:58,291 --> 00:15:59,953
And so you've got a long way to go.

192
00:16:01,752 --> 00:16:03,334
Don't become too good too early.

193
00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:12,302
<i>So, I was in rep,
doing a play up in Liverpool</i>

194
00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:15,217
<i>and we used to go out
and have coffee and sandwiches</i>

195
00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:17,049
<i>at lunchtime at this coffee bar.</i>

196
00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,222
<i>And it was always smothered in girls.</i>

197
00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:20,886
<i>That's gonna
get you down there.</i>

198
00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:22,141
<i>Yeah.</i>

199
00:16:22,523 --> 00:16:23,513
<i>That was us, yeah.</i>

200
00:16:49,550 --> 00:16:52,588
<i>To get in,
you had to kind of bluff a bit.</i>

201
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,837
<i>- It was officially a blues club.
- Yeah.</i>

202
00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:56,547
<i>We didn't know any blues.</i>

203
00:16:56,641 --> 00:16:58,507
<i>- It was all rock and roll, what we knew.
- Yeah, sure.</i>

204
00:16:58,601 --> 00:17:00,809
<i>We were getting notes from the guy.</i>

205
00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:02,978
<i>"This is not blues!"</i>

206
00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:04,475
<i>Anyway, we bluffed it.</i>

207
00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:07,853
<i>I mean, I had my guitar.</i>

208
00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:10,027
<i>Mick Jagger had his in London,</i>

209
00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,236
<i>and Eric Burdon was up in Newcastle</i>

210
00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,406
<i>and we're all going through
the same changes at once.</i>

211
00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:16,191
<i>And you could make it without</i>

212
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:20,245
<i>college and education
and all those things, you know?</i>

213
00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:46,221
<i>Of course,
with being very poor.</i>

214
00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:48,773
<i>there was no way I was gonna
be able to buy a guitar.</i>

215
00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:51,146
<i>Yeah, how do you start?
You gotta get musical instruments.</i>

216
00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:52,273
<i>Yeah, so I went out
and bought some wood</i>

217
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:54,104
<i>like so many of our guys did.</i>

218
00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:56,736
<i>We all went out
and made our first guitars.</i>

219
00:17:56,826 --> 00:17:59,239
<i>- Made them?
- We made them, yeah. We made them.</i>

220
00:17:59,328 --> 00:18:02,446
<i>And they weren't very good.
And they didn't last very long.</i>

221
00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:06,079
<i>But all you needed to do
was have something that made a noise.</i>

222
00:18:06,168 --> 00:18:07,158
<i>Really?</i>

223
00:18:07,253 --> 00:18:10,337
<i>And if you learnt three chords
you can play many, many songs.</i>

224
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,928
And after they learned
those three chords,

225
00:18:18,014 --> 00:18:20,301
most kids headed for London.

226
00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,850
It's where everybody
who wanted to be somebody

227
00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,052
wanted to be.

228
00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:26,227
You might be out of work,

229
00:18:26,731 --> 00:18:28,188
you might be broke,

230
00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:29,310
but it was cheap

231
00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:33,022
and you lived within two miles
of Buckingham Palace.

232
00:18:33,696 --> 00:18:35,278
<i>Oh, that was a great time.</i>

233
00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:38,027
<i>We all used to just
go round London in our cars</i>

234
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,234
<i>and meet each other
and talk about music.</i>

235
00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:42,698
<i>And we were very close to the Stones.</i>

236
00:18:42,913 --> 00:18:44,905
<i>I spent a lot of time
with Brian and Mick.</i>

237
00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,490
<i>And I admired them, you know.</i>

238
00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:49,034
<i>I dug them the first time
I saw them in Richmond.</i>

239
00:18:51,422 --> 00:18:54,039
<i>And you know we wrote
their first number one?</i>

240
00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:55,669
<i>Wait a minute,
what one was that?</i>

241
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,468
<i>So, one day, me and John
were in Charing Cross Road</i>

242
00:18:58,554 --> 00:18:59,635
<i>cos that was where all</i>

243
00:18:59,722 --> 00:19:01,805
<i>- the guitar shops were.
- Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.</i>

244
00:19:01,891 --> 00:19:03,803
<i>And we used to go down.
That was like our mecca.</i>

245
00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:06,260
<i>And we were coming out of a shop one day</i>

246
00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:08,562
<i>and we saw this taxi with Rolling Stones</i>

247
00:19:08,731 --> 00:19:09,721
<i>and we were, "Hey!"</i>

248
00:19:09,982 --> 00:19:11,848
<i>So, we got in, and we're talking,
and they say,</i>

249
00:19:11,942 --> 00:19:14,605
<i>"Oh, we got a record contract with
Decca, you know? Great."</i>

250
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:16,812
<i>And Mick said, "Trouble is,
we haven't got a song."</i>

251
00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:19,193
<i>And I go, "Drr-drr-drr!"</i>

252
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:20,865
<i>I go, "Well, we've got one."</i>

253
00:19:41,347 --> 00:19:43,714
I thought the Stones wrote
that one themselves.

254
00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:45,595
No, we wrote that when we were so high.

255
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,637
How do you compare your
group with The Beatles?

256
00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:53,478
I don't know. How do you
compare it with The Beatles?

257
00:19:53,567 --> 00:19:55,684
<i>I don't compare it at all, you know.
There's no point.</i>

258
00:19:55,778 --> 00:19:57,610
<i>Well, let's get right down
to the brass tacks.</i>

259
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,313
<i>Do you think you're better
than they are?</i>

260
00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:02,107
<i>At what? You know,
it's not the same group.</i>

261
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,659
<i>- It was part of a movement.
- Yeah.</i>

262
00:20:04,745 --> 00:20:06,907
<i>Because while we were
still up in Liverpool,</i>

263
00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:09,239
<i>we were seeing people like you,</i>

264
00:20:09,834 --> 00:20:12,622
<i>Albert Finney, Courtenay,</i>

265
00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:14,499
<i>who were ordinary, working-class boys,</i>

266
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:16,166
<i>who talked with regional accents.</i>

267
00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:18,499
I've only clocked you,
that's all, you're...

268
00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:20,458
You're Crafty Arthur from the Basin.

269
00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:24,342
I shouldn't worry too much, sir.
We can always shut down a reactor.

270
00:20:24,432 --> 00:20:25,422
Yes.

271
00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:27,303
Pity if we had to, though.

272
00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:29,634
<i>Don't let the bastards
grind you down!</i>

273
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:30,845
<i>That's one thing I've learned.</i>

274
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,306
<i>Ordinary lads, you know,
and they were now making it.</i>

275
00:20:34,775 --> 00:20:37,438
<i>- You were expected to sort of talk posh.
- Yeah.</i>

276
00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:40,271
<i>And we didn't or couldn't,
and didn't want to.</i>

277
00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,778
My real name was Maurice Micklewhite,

278
00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:45,700
which is a bit of a mouthful
for an actor.

279
00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:48,073
So I changed it to Michael White.

280
00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:50,114
Then I came to London

281
00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:52,954
and every night I used to go
to Leicester Square,

282
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,242
in a phone booth,

283
00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:56,749
and call my agent
to see if there was any work.

284
00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,922
And one night she said,
"I've got a job for you.

285
00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:00,248
"It's on television."

286
00:21:00,718 --> 00:21:03,131
She said, "And you've got to join
Equity, the trade union."

287
00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,258
So I said, "OK, I'll join it." She said,
"But you've gotta change your name."

288
00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:08,305
She said, "Because there's another
Michael White

289
00:21:08,392 --> 00:21:09,553
"already in Equity.

290
00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:11,184
"So, I want the name now."

291
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,353
She said, "Obviously, you can keep
the name Michael,

292
00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:14,646
"but I want another surname."

293
00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:17,182
So, I looked round Leicester Square
at the cinemas

294
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:20,064
and there was my favourite actor,
Humphrey Bogart

295
00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:21,604
in <i>The Caine Mutiny.</i>

296
00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,108
And I thought, "This is fantastic."

297
00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:26,317
<i>So I said, "Michael Caine."
She said, "How do you spell it?"</i>

298
00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,197
I said, "C-A-I-N-E."

299
00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:30,612
And that's how I became Michael Caine.

300
00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:32,990
If I'd have gone to the cinema next door

301
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,118
I would've been
"Michael 101 Dalmatians."

302
00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:39,121
Music in this country
was very watery and weak

303
00:21:39,215 --> 00:21:40,626
and not really worth talking about.

304
00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:41,957
Then all of a sudden, you know,

305
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:45,760
the kids in England were
thinking for themselves, you know.

306
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:49,681
<i>They were beginning to sort of build up
their own ideas about fashion.</i>

307
00:21:49,767 --> 00:21:52,601
<i>And build up their own ideas
about music.</i>

308
00:22:46,699 --> 00:22:49,942
<i>I really don't care whether
they think we're a load of yobs or not.</i>

309
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,530
<i>It doesn't worry me.</i>

310
00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:54,370
<i>Cos maybe I am. I don't really care.
I'm just what I am.</i>

311
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,493
<i>It was like
slaughtering a beast.</i>

312
00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:36,117
<i>The thing could howl, it could scream.</i>

313
00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,163
<i>It was doing all kinds of noises...</i>

314
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,412
<i>...that you could only do
by smashing it.</i>

315
00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:43,871
<i>We were led in through that period
of the Cold War</i>

316
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:45,830
<i>- where we were with the Cuban Crisis.
- Exactly! Yeah.</i>

317
00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:48,963
<i>We had three minutes to live.
You just did everything now.</i>

318
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:13,153
Twenty years ago, it was music,

319
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,572
it was melody,
you wanted to dance to it.

320
00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:19,330
<i>This is London
calling the British Empire.</i>

321
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,583
<i>This is the BBC Light Programme.</i>

322
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:23,035
<i>Here is the ten o'clock news.</i>

323
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,415
<i>Ladies and gentlemen...</i>

324
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:31,168
<i>The BBC
Home and Forces Programme.</i>

325
00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:32,627
<i>Here is the news.</i>

326
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:42,679
<i>When I was a kid,
the bloke who read the news</i>

327
00:24:42,773 --> 00:24:45,982
<i>on the BBC, he wore an evening suit.</i>

328
00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:49,026
And that was on the radio.

329
00:24:50,364 --> 00:24:52,856
And that attitude still existed

330
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:54,691
among the stiffs who ran the place.

331
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,403
They didn't want us
to be exposed to the evils

332
00:24:58,497 --> 00:24:59,704
of the pop music

333
00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:02,954
of The Beatles, The Rolling Stones,
The Who.

334
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,832
But whenever the old guard
told us what we couldn't do,

335
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:09,664
we always found a way to do it.

336
00:25:30,404 --> 00:25:32,646
We've records on radio. Lovely!

337
00:25:35,826 --> 00:25:38,034
This is Radio Caroline,

338
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,157
three and a half miles
off the coast of Britain.

339
00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:44,290
The last free radio station
in the world.

340
00:25:47,337 --> 00:25:48,919
Good morning! This is Radio Caroline,

341
00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:51,544
broadcasting on 259 metres
in the medium wave.

342
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:54,421
And welcome to the show!
You're with the Admiral Robbie Dale

343
00:25:54,511 --> 00:25:58,175
through till 9:00 this evening.
Remember, of course, it's 259...

344
00:25:58,265 --> 00:26:00,678
We want food! We want food!

345
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:13,278
All broadcasting, ultimately,
was responsible to the government,

346
00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:14,979
to the representatives
of the government.

347
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:18,818
Now, these people are not.
They are a law unto themselves.

348
00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:22,404
They are, in fact, pirates.
The word is a correct one.

349
00:26:23,165 --> 00:26:25,452
They are pirates.
They are, in fact, outlaws.

350
00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:30,796
<i>If a new animal comes into
a group of animals</i>

351
00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:33,589
<i>that are already together,
the other animals will attack it.</i>

352
00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:36,627
<i>Because they don't know it,
and they're afraid of it.</i>

353
00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:39,296
The pirates are a menace,
and I don't believe at all

354
00:26:39,807 --> 00:26:43,221
that the public wouldn't support action
to enforce the law.

355
00:26:43,644 --> 00:26:45,852
<i>We broadcast 24 hours a day</i>

356
00:26:46,146 --> 00:26:49,310
<i>to Britain, France, Holland,
many other European countries.</i>

357
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:50,898
We fight for freedom.

358
00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:54,687
And we will fight
until we are physically put down.

359
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,616
<i>The old rule book
was being torn up</i>

360
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:10,284
<i>and thrown away.</i>

361
00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,537
<i>It was happening in my profession, too.</i>

362
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,840
<i>I was up for a big film,
to play a Cockney Corporal.</i>

363
00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:20,170
And I had to go to the audition

364
00:27:20,264 --> 00:27:22,005
and I didn't have a phone at that time.

365
00:27:22,099 --> 00:27:23,556
And when I got to the audition,

366
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,725
the director said, "I'm terribly sorry."

367
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:27,427
He said, "We couldn't
get in touch with you.

368
00:27:27,521 --> 00:27:29,513
"We've cast that part already."
You know?

369
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:30,596
So, I was turned down.

370
00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:32,899
But I'd been turned down
so many times it didn't matter.

371
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,692
And the room was very long,

372
00:27:34,778 --> 00:27:36,440
which was fortunate for my movie career,

373
00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:38,021
cos by the time I got to the door,

374
00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,816
the director said, "Come back a minute.
Come here."

375
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,903
Now, I was very slim, 6'2",
long, blond hair.

376
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,906
He said, "You sort of look like

377
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,624
"an officer type, you know?"

378
00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:55,039
So I said, "Thank you."
He said, "Can you do a posh accent?"

379
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:59,425
I said, "I have been in rep
for nine years,

380
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,252
"I can do any accent you want."

381
00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:04,430
<i>I was very nervous, I remember.</i>

382
00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:06,925
<i>I remember Cy Endfield,
when he did the first take,</i>

383
00:28:08,228 --> 00:28:10,641
<i>said "Cut!" halfway through
the very first take</i>

384
00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:14,349
<i>and he said, "Michael, " he said, "your
voice has gone up about three octaves."</i>

385
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:18,024
And my voice was up here with nerves
and they could hardly record it.

386
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,647
And we had to start again,
and then I brought my voice down.

387
00:28:20,991 --> 00:28:23,074
But what had happened was,
is everybody had come out

388
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,573
because they were sure this
Cockney couldn't speak like that.

389
00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,782
Who said you could use my men?

390
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,162
They were sitting around
on their backsides doing nothing.

391
00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:36,329
Rather you asked first, old boy.

392
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:39,712
That's how I got a starring role
in a movie for the first time.

393
00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:44,846
The thing is if that director
hadn't been an American

394
00:28:44,932 --> 00:28:47,390
but had been a British director,

395
00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:49,638
through no malice
or no fault of his own,

396
00:28:50,687 --> 00:28:52,098
he would never

397
00:28:52,189 --> 00:28:54,977
have cast this Cockney boy
as an officer,

398
00:28:55,984 --> 00:28:57,145
not in a million years.

399
00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:02,272
That's how strong the class system
was in England back then.

400
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:25,298
<i>And suddenly,</i>

401
00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:29,133
<i>people realised that the working class
wasn't as thick as it looked.</i>

402
00:29:29,226 --> 00:29:30,558
<i>- And it had talent.
- Yeah.</i>

403
00:29:30,644 --> 00:29:32,886
<i>There was very talented people.</i>

404
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:33,970
<i>It was a revolution.</i>

405
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,227
And I don't agree with anything
that they do.

406
00:29:41,488 --> 00:29:42,979
Young people are like they are

407
00:29:43,073 --> 00:29:46,908
because our society is throwing up
this sort of problem.

408
00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:50,286
I think the whole thing is
a lot of unfresh rubbish.

409
00:29:51,665 --> 00:29:52,746
<i>I just thought</i>

410
00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:54,699
<i>there was more of us
than there was of them.</i>

411
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,251
<i>Do you know,
that never occurred to me?</i>

412
00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,127
But it seems to me

413
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,045
that a good time is...

414
00:30:05,095 --> 00:30:08,634
is much easier had by all now
than ever before.

415
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:17,138
Any one thing that's preached
by our people in particular

416
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,519
it's that you do what you wanna do,
when you want.

417
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:24,187
This isn't the first generation
that's questioned the moral values

418
00:30:24,281 --> 00:30:25,647
of the last generation.

419
00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:35,907
You know, on recent trips to London

420
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:39,665
you don't see any people
older than 25 or 30.

421
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,837
It's as though they lock
them up somewhere.

422
00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:44,506
<i>I think they've all
moved out and left it to the teenagers.</i>

423
00:30:44,593 --> 00:30:47,131
<i>London, as far as I'm concerned,
as far as I can see,</i>

424
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,428
<i>it's all young people
the whole time now.</i>

425
00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:52,098
<i>Taste no longer
comes down from the rich.</i>

426
00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,971
<i>It often rises from the young,</i>

427
00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:55,723
<i>many of them from the working classes.</i>

428
00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:59,268
<i>They now seem the pace-setters.
They set the taste.</i>

429
00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,610
In fact, the whole strength of this
came from the young themselves.

430
00:31:04,738 --> 00:31:07,230
They knew what they wanted.
They didn't want to imitate sort of

431
00:31:07,991 --> 00:31:10,358
Countess Biggleswade, you know?
They had their own ideas.

432
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,657
<i>I looked at
the cover of</i> Time <i>magazine</i>

433
00:31:13,747 --> 00:31:16,410
<i>and I read this article
just talking about</i>

434
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,833
<i>what was going on in London,
the nightclubs,</i>

435
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:20,993
<i>the restaurants, the clothes,</i>

436
00:31:21,171 --> 00:31:24,710
<i>and I thought, "How do I get to London,
you know, like, tomorrow?"</i>

437
00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,007
<i>You know, when people say</i>

438
00:31:27,094 --> 00:31:29,586
<i>The Beatles made swinging sixties,
they didn't.</i>

439
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:31,762
<i>London made The Beatles.</i>

440
00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:34,469
Never before had so many young people

441
00:31:35,143 --> 00:31:36,554
lived away from home.

442
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:39,516
Their parents began to worry about them.

443
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,101
If their kids when to art school,

444
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:44,316
they would've worried even more.

445
00:31:45,195 --> 00:31:47,437
I don't know whether
they learned anything about painting,

446
00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:51,570
but they certainly had the
prettiest girls and the best parties.

447
00:31:52,202 --> 00:31:53,784
The pop art scene

448
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:56,362
began to transform the face of London.

449
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,911
<i>People said,
"It's a dull, grey world."</i>

450
00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:02,618
<i>Or "Everything's black and white
post-war."</i>

451
00:32:02,879 --> 00:32:04,916
<i>Even though people said that,
it was literally true.</i>

452
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:06,664
<i>Everything was dull and grey</i>

453
00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:09,671
<i>and we wanted colour, we wanted
to introduce colour into London.</i>

454
00:32:09,845 --> 00:32:13,589
<i>If we could have had coloured concrete,
coloured cement, we'd have used it.</i>

455
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:17,471
<i>The world of pop art.
The world of the popular imagination.</i>

456
00:32:17,561 --> 00:32:20,850
The world of film stars, the twist.

457
00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:23,473
<i>Art schools were
the centre of everything.</i>

458
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,184
<i>Well, they provoked so much
excitement and interest.</i>

459
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,395
<i>And we didn't even know
you could have art students.</i>

460
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,653
<i>It was wonderful
thinking you could use anything.</i>

461
00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:35,026
<i>Paintings based on a packet of tea,</i>

462
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,987
<i>just because the packets of tea
were there.</i>

463
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:41,244
<i>And I used to write
on the paintings then.</i>

464
00:32:43,086 --> 00:32:44,293
<i>A lot of graffiti.</i>

465
00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:49,170
<i>Some of it, I remember finding in the
toilets in Earl's Court Tube station.</i>

466
00:32:51,928 --> 00:32:53,669
<i>I often take the moment</i>

467
00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:55,846
<i>before something has actually happened.</i>

468
00:32:56,016 --> 00:32:58,303
<i>And you don't know
if it's going to be terrible</i>

469
00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,725
<i>or it might be very funny.</i>

470
00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:03,304
The sort of stuff that I'm doing is
absolute ephemera.

471
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,935
<i>It's do it today and I wanna
forget about it by midnight.</i>

472
00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:09,776
<i>And I'm on to something else.</i>

473
00:33:09,863 --> 00:33:11,195
<i>This is how I see.</i>

474
00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,739
<i>You know, if anything is pop,
it's pop for the minute.</i>

475
00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:22,998
It's much easier for a girl to
drift into trouble in London.

476
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,832
The streets themselves,
it's true, are clear.

477
00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:29,755
But there are more temptations,

478
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:33,755
it's more easier for anybody
who wants to exploit a girl

479
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,086
to sweep her underground.

480
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,722
<i>"I just happened
to be there, that's all."</i>

481
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,470
<i>That's a Bob Dylan line.</i>

482
00:33:43,063 --> 00:33:45,646
They said, "Would you like to come
to a party in London?"

483
00:33:45,732 --> 00:33:48,190
And I said, "Oh, I've never been
to a party in London."

484
00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:51,774
<i>Pretty girl with a lot of
very pretty friends.</i>

485
00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:54,151
- <i>Yeah.
- My friends were gorgeous, you know.</i>

486
00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:57,154
<i>We all went to this convent
and we were fabulous looking,</i>

487
00:33:57,244 --> 00:33:59,657
<i>and my God, the role model
was the Virgin Mary.</i>

488
00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:00,736
<i>Yeah, exactly.</i>

489
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,696
<i>That's what made
convent girls so sexy.</i>

490
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:06,868
<i>And hard to get. Yeah.</i>

491
00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:08,624
<i>Don't know about that.</i>

492
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,330
The Rolling Stones were there
and Millie and The Crystals,

493
00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:13,082
and all these people,

494
00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:15,467
and I was looking very shabby.

495
00:34:16,012 --> 00:34:18,675
Very, very... So shabby. It was awful.

496
00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:20,422
I was stood there.

497
00:34:21,142 --> 00:34:24,510
And then people started whispering
and sort of saying, you know,

498
00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:26,436
being very embarrassing for me.

499
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:28,647
And they came up and said
to the person I was with,

500
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:29,894
"And can she sing?"

501
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,694
Andrew Oldham, you are the person
who discovered Marianne Faithfull

502
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:34,941
at that party.

503
00:34:35,031 --> 00:34:37,990
Is it literally possible to go to
a party and pick out someone

504
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,035
with no evident talents
and make a star of them?

505
00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:43,954
- Uh, yes.
- How?

506
00:34:44,124 --> 00:34:46,457
Um, I think the first thing is
you have to be drunk.

507
00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:48,834
<i>- He had an instinct.
- Yes.</i>

508
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,082
<i>I think, that's what
Andrew... I was very good at that.</i>

509
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,333
<i>And he guided you through...</i>

510
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:55,132
<i>- He guided me through nothing.
- Really?</i>

511
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:58,302
<i>He knew whatever it was I had
he could market it.</i>

512
00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:02,799
<i>He just saw what he always called
a "commercial face".</i>

513
00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:05,100
<i>Which you did, yeah. I mean,
you were so pretty.</i>

514
00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:08,350
<i>If you can see that
perspective. I can't see it myself.</i>

515
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,430
<i>Take my word for it.</i>

516
00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:10,731
<i>OK.</i>

517
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,817
<i>I fell in love with Mick.</i>

518
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:16,771
<i>Mick was young, rich and a rock star.</i>

519
00:35:17,657 --> 00:35:20,400
<i>Bailey, the same.
Probably you had your moments, too.</i>

520
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,155
<i>Though you took your work
very seriously.</i>

521
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:23,235
<i>I did, indeed.</i>

522
00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:25,242
<i>It was a whole team of very,</i>

523
00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:26,789
<i>very naughty boys, really. Very naughty.</i>

524
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,616
<i>Yeah, well, we couldn't help it.</i>

525
00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:32,461
<i>Where I grew up, it was a bit like</i>

526
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:35,749
<i>Sicily in terms of morals and sex.</i>

527
00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:38,967
<i>If you kissed a girl, her brothers'd
come round with a shotgun</i>

528
00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:40,386
<i>and say you've gotta get married.</i>

529
00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:44,303
<i>Well, all that went out of the window.</i>

530
00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:47,305
<i>Women also
were turning into voyeurs.</i>

531
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:49,224
<i>They also liked the look of men.</i>

532
00:35:49,522 --> 00:35:52,265
<i>Given the Pill was the only
contraception that actually worked,</i>

533
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,359
<i>a woman could then really be
in charge of her own life.</i>

534
00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,269
It's smaller
than an aspirin tablet

535
00:35:57,906 --> 00:36:00,944
and it is commonly and widely
called "the Pill".

536
00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:02,567
<i>A revolution is on the way.</i>

537
00:36:02,744 --> 00:36:06,328
<i>All over the country, young girls
are sprouting, shouting and shaking.</i>

538
00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:08,906
<i>And if they terrify you, they mean to.</i>

539
00:36:09,042 --> 00:36:10,908
<i>I wanted to run and jump and dance</i>

540
00:36:11,044 --> 00:36:13,707
<i>and go on at night, straight away to
a nightclub and dance.</i>

541
00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:18,712
<i>A friend of mine said
he was gonna take me</i>

542
00:36:18,802 --> 00:36:20,794
<i>to the best disco in the whole world.</i>

543
00:36:21,805 --> 00:36:23,592
<i>It was at the top
of a very high building,</i>

544
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,298
<i>just behind Leicester Square,</i>

545
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:27,508
<i>in a club called The Ad Lib.</i>

546
00:36:30,063 --> 00:36:32,646
<i>And I'm looking round to see what sort
of people we've got here.</i>

547
00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:36,976
<i>On the dance floor,
every single Rolling Stone</i>

548
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,402
<i>and every single Beatle.</i>

549
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:42,360
<i>And I thought, "Boy,
this must be the place."</i>

550
00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:15,272
<i>I met Albert Finney,
I met Michael Caine,</i>

551
00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:16,894
<i>I met Sean Connery.</i>

552
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,444
<i>I met Stevie Winwood,
Jimi Hendrix and Brian Jones.</i>

553
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,193
<i>John Lennon was there.
I met Julie Christie there.</i>

554
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:25,274
<i>It was insane.</i>

555
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:28,660
<i>And they were all mates,
weren't they?</i>

556
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,865
<i>It was all mates. I taught Nureyev
how to twist at The Ad Lib, yeah.</i>

557
00:37:31,958 --> 00:37:35,417
<i>And he was very stiff. I mean,
he could do all that</i> Swan Lake <i>shit,</i>

558
00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:37,916
<i>but he couldn't do the twist.</i>

559
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,379
<i>We didn't have cell phones
in those days.</i>

560
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:50,600
<i>We didn't text each other.
We talked to each other face-to-face.</i>

561
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,386
<i>And that's what bred creativity</i>

562
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,019
<i>because people could meet each other
and exchange ideas.</i>

563
00:37:57,817 --> 00:38:00,525
And anyone with talent
could be a part of it.

564
00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:15,286
<i>We started a shop
in the King's Road called Bazaar.</i>

565
00:38:15,752 --> 00:38:19,166
<i>It just hit the spot from
the first day</i>.

566
00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:22,169
<i>Why was that, then?
Was that because of the miniskirt?</i>

567
00:38:22,258 --> 00:38:26,252
<i>Because I made the skirts much shorter
than anyone had seen at that time.</i>

568
00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:28,004
<i>They were provocative, you know?</i>

569
00:38:29,641 --> 00:38:32,805
Well, I can't say that I particularly
approve of some of the styles

570
00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,261
and particularly the more outré ones.

571
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:39,269
But I do appreciate that they're
the expression of, what shall I say?

572
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:41,191
The exuberance of affluent youth.

573
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,476
<i>City gents</i>

574
00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:45,396
<i>on their way to work used to
bash on the window and shout,</i>

575
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,699
<i>"Disgusting! Outrageous!
They should not be allowed!"</i>

576
00:38:48,785 --> 00:38:49,775
<i>and all the rest of it, yeah.</i>

577
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:51,906
<i>I'd have thought they'd
have been sitting outside watching.</i>

578
00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,157
<i>Yeah, you're right.</i>

579
00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:55,786
<i>I had the shortest skirts ever.</i>

580
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:58,993
<i>So short I had knickers made
to match my skirts.</i>

581
00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:01,044
<i>Yeah, micro-mini. They were like a belt.</i>

582
00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:05,583
One day in the '60s,
my mother said to me, she said,

583
00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:08,545
"I keep reading and hearing
about all these miniskirts."

584
00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:11,346
She said, "I've never seen
a girl in a miniskirt."

585
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,716
<i>I said, "Right, Mum, I'll show you,"
I said.</i>

586
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:16,644
<i>So, what I did is I took her
to King's Road in Chelsea</i>

587
00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:18,186
<i>on a Saturday afternoon,</i>

588
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,600
<i>and we got out of the car
and of course, almost immediately,</i>

589
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:25,020
<i>there's a young girl in a miniskirt.</i>

590
00:39:25,113 --> 00:39:28,572
<i>I turned to my mother and I said,
"Well, Mum, what do you think?"</i>

591
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:33,660
<i>And she said, "If it's not for sale,
you shouldn't put it in the window."</i>

592
00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:36,746
That about sums her up.

593
00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:43,250
Oh, well, fabrics are made flat
and women are round

594
00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:46,207
and there's this terrible problem
of putting the two together, you know?

595
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:48,508
Which is why I want to make
round clothes

596
00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:51,044
with no seams,

597
00:39:51,139 --> 00:39:53,631
so that it can be rounder and
smoother than we are.

598
00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:58,515
<i>The whole young</i>

599
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:00,221
<i>London thing was happening.</i>

600
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:02,347
<i>In a big way.</i>

601
00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:04,566
<i>And I was working with Mary Quant</i>

602
00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:07,437
<i>and she was working with us.</i>

603
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,396
<i>I was doing her show,
she was doing ours,</i>

604
00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:12,324
<i>and we were developing this whole thing,
in a sense, together.</i>

605
00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:16,696
<i>I was walking down Bond Street</i>

606
00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:19,540
<i>and there was this stunning photograph
of a girl</i>

607
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:21,583
<i>with her hair cut short</i>

608
00:40:21,961 --> 00:40:23,327
<i>and it said, "Vidal Sassoon."</i>

609
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:24,411
<i>And I went up the steps</i>

610
00:40:24,881 --> 00:40:26,292
<i>and right at the top,</i>

611
00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:27,707
<i>there was a kind of kitchen.</i>

612
00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:29,834
<i>Vidal was cutting hair.</i>

613
00:40:30,887 --> 00:40:31,877
Cuts.

614
00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:34,634
Great noise, that scissor.

615
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:37,224
<i>And he was chopping hair
and it was flying everywhere.</i>

616
00:40:38,603 --> 00:40:40,595
<i>And he was such a show-off,
as you can imagine.</i>

617
00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:42,771
<i>- No, I know. I knew him well, yeah.
- Yes.</i>

618
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:46,184
<i>Do you remember when
we were open one week in 108?</i>

619
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:47,267
<i>Right.</i>

620
00:40:47,362 --> 00:40:49,570
And in those days,

621
00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:52,189
when we first opened, we used to
write our name in script.

622
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:54,324
Because we thought it was very chic.

623
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:56,117
And it was gonna look marvellous,
you know?

624
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:59,493
And, um, the postman,

625
00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:02,575
You couldn't tell whether
the F's were L's or S's.

626
00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:04,001
You couldn't tell what they were.

627
00:41:04,087 --> 00:41:05,999
- Do you remember this, Bob?
- That's right, yeah.

628
00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:07,705
The postman came up
with the first letter

629
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,465
and he'd walked up
three flights of stairs.

630
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:12,258
And he opened the door
and in broad Cockney,

631
00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:13,335
he looked around and said,

632
00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:15,546
"Here, which one
of you lot's Vifal Faffoon?"

633
00:41:30,196 --> 00:41:32,438
<i>Vidal Sassoon
invented the geometric,</i>

634
00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:33,898
<i>angled style of hairdressing.</i>

635
00:41:34,283 --> 00:41:37,867
<i>It was cut almost like a fabric
and it was treated like a texture</i>

636
00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,662
<i>and it was free and alive.</i>

637
00:41:41,082 --> 00:41:44,120
<i>And so he did the hair and,
you know, I did the outfits.</i>

638
00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:34,588
<i>Very often, when somebody's
had one of our haircuts,</i>

639
00:42:35,428 --> 00:42:36,418
<i>they come back again.</i>

640
00:42:36,763 --> 00:42:39,130
<i>And in two weeks' time
they've changed their shoes</i>

641
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:41,089
<i>and their skirts are a little shorter.</i>

642
00:42:41,184 --> 00:42:43,551
<i>And within six months,
their whole look has changed.</i>

643
00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:45,385
<i>I think the point of clothes</i>

644
00:42:46,481 --> 00:42:48,063
<i>for women should be</i>

645
00:42:48,441 --> 00:42:49,727
<i>one, that you're noticed.</i>

646
00:42:49,859 --> 00:42:52,442
<i>Two, that you look sexy.</i>

647
00:42:53,029 --> 00:42:54,736
And three, that you feel good.

648
00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:58,365
I can't see that we wear them
to keep warm.

649
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:47,581
<i>It's all got to stop.
They've had enough.</i>

650
00:43:47,708 --> 00:43:48,994
The worms are turning.

651
00:43:49,085 --> 00:43:52,123
The rebellion of the long hairs
is getting underway.

652
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:56,002
We've had comments like "Darling!" and
"Can I carry your handbag?"

653
00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:57,249
thrown at us.

654
00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:59,047
I think it just had to stop now.

655
00:43:59,137 --> 00:44:00,719
I don't like men with long hair.

656
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,598
Or curlers. I like them normal.

657
00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:08,261
Well, I find it terribly difficult with
some of these long-haired young men

658
00:44:09,564 --> 00:44:11,055
to differentiate between the sexes.

659
00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:13,391
And this could be a matter
of considerable inconvenience.

660
00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:17,937
I think they're absolutely atrocious.
I like men to look like men.

661
00:44:18,114 --> 00:44:20,606
Why not for a man? Why not?
Tell me why not for a man?

662
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,407
It's all right if your colours
go together.

663
00:44:22,493 --> 00:44:24,780
Why not for a man?
Any colours go together.

664
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:27,362
That's beautiful.
What's wrong with that?

665
00:44:29,125 --> 00:44:32,084
Our parents didn't have much sex
before marriage.

666
00:44:32,795 --> 00:44:34,957
A lot of 'em didn't have
a lot of sex after marriage.

667
00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:36,879
And by the time they made
a bit of money,

668
00:44:36,966 --> 00:44:38,457
it was too late to enjoy it.

669
00:44:40,052 --> 00:44:43,341
<i>It can't have been easy for them
to see us having so much more fun</i>

670
00:44:43,431 --> 00:44:44,763
<i>than they ever thought possible.</i>

671
00:44:51,731 --> 00:44:52,721
David?

672
00:44:53,316 --> 00:44:54,306
You up there?

673
00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:58,277
Nice! Good girl. Good.

674
00:44:59,113 --> 00:45:01,981
That's good. Hold it. Good.

675
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:03,481
Good.

676
00:45:03,743 --> 00:45:06,235
Make that... Let me... No, Deb, who told
you to move?

677
00:45:06,329 --> 00:45:07,570
Go back to where you were.

678
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:09,746
Come on. Back to where you were. Good.

679
00:45:09,832 --> 00:45:12,620
And that flipping hand.

680
00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:16,041
Yeah. Good. There. That's good.

681
00:45:16,172 --> 00:45:17,162
Stay like that.

682
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:21,508
<i>I was very much influenced also
by the photographers at the time.</i>

683
00:45:21,594 --> 00:45:25,554
<i>The new, I suppose, typically young
Cockney photographers</i>

684
00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:27,882
<i>that were happening and
were our great friends.</i>

685
00:45:27,975 --> 00:45:30,433
<i>And I'm sure we sort of
bounced ideas off each other.</i>

686
00:45:31,187 --> 00:45:33,429
<i>It's the easiest thing
in the world to be a photographer.</i>

687
00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:34,854
<i>All you have to be is a bit rude,</i>

688
00:45:34,941 --> 00:45:36,728
<i>grow your hair long
and wear a leatherjacket</i>

689
00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:39,525
<i>and buy a Pentax and you're
a photographer, cos there's no union.</i>

690
00:45:39,904 --> 00:45:41,861
<i>The winsome David Bailey.</i>

691
00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:45,191
This is marvellous. Good.
Open your mouth slightly. Good.

692
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:46,942
<i>David was famous for a saying.</i>

693
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,953
<i>"David Bailey makes love daily."</i>

694
00:45:50,248 --> 00:45:52,865
<i>He wore a vest, jeans, Cuban heels</i>

695
00:45:53,292 --> 00:45:54,999
<i>and had a cheese sandwich for lunch.</i>

696
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:58,291
<i>And he photographed the most
beautiful women in the world.</i>

697
00:45:59,006 --> 00:45:59,996
<i>Lucky bugger!</i>

698
00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:02,757
<i>Bailey was extremely attractive.</i>

699
00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:05,802
<i>And every woman in the world
seemed to want to have</i>

700
00:46:05,888 --> 00:46:07,504
<i>a little bit of him.</i>

701
00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:09,385
<i>Well, a particular bit of him.</i>

702
00:46:10,268 --> 00:46:12,100
<i>Just stand with your legs apart
and face me.</i>

703
00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:22,485
<i>He came to New York</i>

704
00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:24,821
<i>to collect me, to take me to London.</i>

705
00:46:25,366 --> 00:46:28,234
<i>Completely fell in love with him
within about five minutes.</i>

706
00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:29,442
<i>It was pathetic.</i>

707
00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:31,987
<i>He sort of rang the doorbell
at my house.</i>

708
00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:34,239
<i>My mother came to the door,</i>

709
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:38,585
<i>and as soon as she saw it was Bailey,
she tried to slam the door in his face.</i>

710
00:46:38,671 --> 00:46:41,288
<i>He said, "Don't worry about it, love.
Could've been worse.</i>

711
00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:43,168
<i>"It could've been a Rolling Stone."</i>

712
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:46,502
<i>That was it. I grabbed my suitcase
and I was gone.</i>

713
00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:48,962
Just stay like that and bring this,

714
00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:52,975
slowly bring this hand down.
More, more, more. And put it there.

715
00:46:53,811 --> 00:46:56,349
Go on. No, lower down, on your thigh,
or whatever it's called.

716
00:46:56,522 --> 00:46:57,603
Good. That's good.

717
00:46:57,857 --> 00:46:59,564
And look at me, like...
Don't twist away.

718
00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:01,186
Just keep where you are. Good girl.

719
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,942
Good. There. That's lovely.

720
00:47:03,404 --> 00:47:05,111
Good, angel. Yeah.

721
00:47:05,197 --> 00:47:07,063
And it's nearly right,
if that hand was nicer.

722
00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:10,116
To the public, the camera doesn't lie.

723
00:47:10,202 --> 00:47:12,615
And therefore the best photographer
is the biggest liar.

724
00:47:13,956 --> 00:47:17,370
<i>There certainly is a school
of English photographers.</i>

725
00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:22,838
<i>I call them the "black trinity"
of Duffy, Donovan and Bailey.</i>

726
00:47:23,299 --> 00:47:26,212
Keep your legs...
Swing your arms away from your body.

727
00:47:27,261 --> 00:47:28,593
Move your legs out.

728
00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:32,013
No, you've moved. Come up, come up,
come up, come up, come up.

729
00:47:32,141 --> 00:47:34,758
And what one's trying to do is to try
and make her look beautiful.

730
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,593
If you don't do that,
then you'll lose out.

731
00:47:39,065 --> 00:47:41,102
And she loses out, and then it's a bore.

732
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:45,482
I think there is an actual pleasure
in making someone look beautiful.

733
00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:47,650
Duffy's great to work with, cos he's...

734
00:47:49,992 --> 00:47:51,779
You go in there
and sort of three hours later

735
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,907
when you've finished all the bottles
of wine that are lying around, you know,

736
00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:59,032
you've sort of talked about everything,
listened to 100 records

737
00:47:59,126 --> 00:48:00,458
of old war songs.

738
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:05,126
Somebody arrives with a sort of
handful of clothes, you know.

739
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:07,586
Out come all the paper flowers.

740
00:48:09,428 --> 00:48:12,136
And he's standing there with a camera
and you have to go on talking.

741
00:48:12,306 --> 00:48:14,798
He makes... He makes you sing, you know.

742
00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:17,722
He won't take the shot
and he gets bolshy.

743
00:48:18,312 --> 00:48:20,474
"I"m not taking the picture
unless you sing. Go on, sing."

744
00:48:20,648 --> 00:48:23,356
So you have to sing. Stand there,
singing in the studio. It's great.

745
00:48:24,193 --> 00:48:26,731
So all the pictures are sort of
dodgy birds with teeth showing,

746
00:48:27,238 --> 00:48:28,228
but they're natural.

747
00:49:07,528 --> 00:49:09,144
<i>If women are attractive,</i>

748
00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:11,362
<i>doesn't matter what they're wearing.</i>

749
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:12,982
<i>It's only packaging.</i>

750
00:49:13,742 --> 00:49:15,449
Like wrapping up soap in something.

751
00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:18,654
It's not any more complicated than that.
It's nicely wrapped,

752
00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:19,737
you look.

753
00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:21,532
<i>If not, you don't bother.</i>

754
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,491
An ideal woman?

755
00:50:04,585 --> 00:50:07,453
Well, that's sort of difficult
cos I think

756
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,293
every woman is sort of my ideal woman.

757
00:50:10,424 --> 00:50:11,915
<i>I mean, they're all lovely.</i>

758
00:50:12,927 --> 00:50:14,338
<i>Some are just lovelier than others.</i>

759
00:50:15,596 --> 00:50:17,303
<i>Which brings us
to Jean Shrimpton.</i>

760
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:18,421
<i>Yeah.</i>

761
00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,779
<i>Half the studio and there was
Duffy, photographing this girl.</i>

762
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:37,448
<i>He put up a blue background,
a sky blue background.</i>

763
00:50:37,535 --> 00:50:39,697
<i>She had these incredible blue eyes.</i>

764
00:50:45,459 --> 00:50:48,668
<i>When I looked at her, I could
see through to the background.</i>

765
00:50:49,505 --> 00:50:50,996
<i>And I said, "Who's that?"</i>

766
00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:53,206
<i>He said, "Oh, it's just
a girl I booked."</i>

767
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,507
<i>He said, "Do you like her?"</i>

768
00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:55,583
<i>I said, "Yeah."</i>

769
00:50:55,886 --> 00:50:57,673
<i>He said, "Oh, she's too
posh for you, mate."</i>

770
00:50:57,763 --> 00:50:59,174
<i>I said, "Oh, we'll see about that."</i>

771
00:50:59,265 --> 00:51:00,847
<i>He was probably right.</i>

772
00:51:00,975 --> 00:51:03,012
<i>And so I booked her</i>

773
00:51:04,228 --> 00:51:05,844
<i>and I sort of
fell in love with her, really.</i>

774
00:51:05,938 --> 00:51:07,054
<i>- You did, didn't you?
- Yeah.</i>

775
00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:09,640
<i>Being with him
is an influence, you know.</i>

776
00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:12,316
<i>He began to influence my movement
and my dress.</i>

777
00:51:12,403 --> 00:51:15,362
<i>And then when he'd get me on the set,
yeah, he'd put me into shape, you know.</i>

778
00:51:15,447 --> 00:51:17,313
<i>And he'd encourage certain expressions.</i>

779
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,526
<i>Then I began to feel something inside
which I didn't know existed.</i>

780
00:51:20,703 --> 00:51:22,740
<i>I photographed her every day
for about three years.</i>

781
00:51:35,092 --> 00:51:37,459
Vogue <i>wouldn't publish
the pictures in the beginning.</i>

782
00:51:37,553 --> 00:51:39,636
<i>- What, of people?
- Of my pictures, yeah.</i>

783
00:51:39,722 --> 00:51:43,215
<i>They always wanted a tree
in the background or an armchair or...</i>

784
00:51:43,309 --> 00:51:46,302
<i>If I've got Jean Shrimpton, why do I
want a palm tree in the background?</i>

785
00:51:46,395 --> 00:51:48,603
<i>There was even models in the '60s</i>
Vogue <i>wouldn't use</i>

786
00:51:48,689 --> 00:51:51,022
<i>because they said,
"Oh, can't possibly use her.</i>

787
00:51:51,108 --> 00:51:52,724
<i>"Have you listened to her accent?"</i>

788
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:56,399
But she'll go on
until the fashions change

789
00:51:56,488 --> 00:51:58,821
or else some other star

790
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:02,116
will suddenly come along
and take her place.

791
00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:06,071
<i>But you were the first</i>

792
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:09,908
<i>obviously Cockney young lady
to become a model.</i>

793
00:52:10,002 --> 00:52:12,039
- <i>Yeah</i>.
<i>- I mean, we heard you talk.</i>

794
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,213
<i>I mean, mostly you didn't
hear models speak, you know.</i>

795
00:52:15,466 --> 00:52:18,129
<i>But then you did. I mean,
there was a whole personality...</i>

796
00:52:18,218 --> 00:52:20,426
<i>- comes with you.
- And they've never shut me up</i>.

797
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:22,928
<i>I was at school</i>

798
00:52:23,057 --> 00:52:24,548
<i>and I wanted to be a model, you know.</i>

799
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:28,302
<i>Cos I was thin and that. And, um,</i>

800
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:30,686
<i>people said, "You ought to try it."</i>

801
00:52:31,023 --> 00:52:32,059
<i>And I thought it would be,</i>

802
00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,771
<i>you know, very glamorous
and all lovely clothes</i>

803
00:52:36,487 --> 00:52:39,275
<i>and very easy, you know, not much to do,
and lots of money.</i>

804
00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:42,440
<i>But it's not, really.
I mean, it's very hard work.</i>

805
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:44,776
<i>If you go out on location in the winter</i>

806
00:52:45,287 --> 00:52:47,870
<i>in a bathing suit
or a little summer dress,</i>

807
00:52:47,956 --> 00:52:49,447
<i>it's blooming freezing.</i>

808
00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:53,585
Bit more. There. Perfect.
Perfect. Marvellous.

809
00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:56,246
<i>Twiggy's success was phenomenal.</i>

810
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,047
<i>It went far beyond just being a model.</i>

811
00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:01,797
<i>In less than a year, her name,
her look, her brand</i>

812
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:03,093
<i>had conquered the world.</i>

813
00:53:03,305 --> 00:53:05,342
Do you feel out of place

814
00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:06,923
as a success

815
00:53:07,184 --> 00:53:10,643
because you started from
ordinary working class beginnings?

816
00:53:10,729 --> 00:53:11,719
No.

817
00:53:12,272 --> 00:53:13,433
No, why should I?

818
00:53:14,108 --> 00:53:15,940
<i>And The Beatles broke down the barrier,</i>

819
00:53:16,026 --> 00:53:17,642
<i>you know, the class barrier
and all that.</i>

820
00:53:17,945 --> 00:53:21,109
<i>Yeah, I don't think it really matters
what class of family you come from.</i>

821
00:53:21,657 --> 00:53:24,866
<i>If you're good enough in yourjob,
you know, you make it anyway.</i>

822
00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:28,828
<i>She's happened
because of all that rubbish</i>

823
00:53:28,914 --> 00:53:30,576
<i>about swinging London.</i>

824
00:53:30,666 --> 00:53:32,202
<i>Yeah, I think she's a lovely model.</i>

825
00:53:32,626 --> 00:53:35,039
Super. I mean, she's money in the bank
for photographers.

826
00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:56,056
What are your views
on serious matters?

827
00:53:57,276 --> 00:53:58,266
Like what?

828
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,443
Well, I don't know.
Who's your favourite philosopher?

829
00:54:02,281 --> 00:54:04,238
I haven't got one. I don't know any.

830
00:54:05,367 --> 00:54:06,357
Who's yours?

831
00:54:06,827 --> 00:54:09,535
Oh, I, you know, I like them all.

832
00:54:09,621 --> 00:54:10,611
Who?

833
00:54:10,831 --> 00:54:13,118
- All your basic philosophers.
- Who?

834
00:54:13,208 --> 00:54:14,198
Just all of them.

835
00:54:14,293 --> 00:54:16,410
I don't know their names, though.
What are their names?

836
00:54:17,421 --> 00:54:19,754
Oh, gee, there's a host of them.

837
00:54:32,019 --> 00:54:34,102
<i>England, where it all began.</i>

838
00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:44,062
I'm going to establish it
real quick.

839
00:54:45,407 --> 00:54:47,615
<i>Portland Street
is the headquarters</i>

840
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:49,192
<i>of Twiggy Enterprises.</i>

841
00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:55,160
<i>As short a time as six weeks
ago, we were here selling coats.</i>

842
00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:57,666
And here you are, you see Twiggy.

843
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,875
Something's been produced
in its tens and tens of thousands.

844
00:55:02,382 --> 00:55:03,918
Just too fantastic an operation.

845
00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:05,958
Don't you think?

846
00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:08,260
Have you seen all the places
we've sold to?

847
00:55:08,347 --> 00:55:09,963
Got one in Hong Kong!

848
00:55:11,683 --> 00:55:13,720
Today, these youngsters
have got a know-how.

849
00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:16,010
You know?

850
00:55:16,522 --> 00:55:18,514
And that's something that
you can't take away from them.

851
00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:29,023
<i>I used to save
my pocket money up</i>

852
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,743
<i>and every Saturday,
we'd run down the road</i>

853
00:55:32,830 --> 00:55:36,824
<i>and we'd buy something at Biba,
cos it was just, like, amazing.</i>

854
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:55,183
<i>Anybody over 30
would never dare go in there.</i>

855
00:55:55,269 --> 00:55:56,976
<i>They used to just stay outside.</i>

856
00:55:58,605 --> 00:56:02,724
<i>And if clothes were being done
for girls, it was done by a woman.</i>

857
00:56:02,943 --> 00:56:03,933
<i>Excuse me.</i>

858
00:56:04,152 --> 00:56:07,566
<i>It wasn't done by
a whole load of men in suits.</i>

859
00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:11,615
<i>As a tourist attraction,
we were number two</i>

860
00:56:11,827 --> 00:56:13,659
<i>after the Tower of London.</i>

861
00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:16,662
<i>And Buckingham Palace was number three.</i>

862
00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:19,536
<i>I think that's terribly funny, you know.</i>

863
00:56:24,172 --> 00:56:26,585
I told you before to be careful
where you put your legs.

864
00:56:26,675 --> 00:56:28,462
I was only trying to be helpful.

865
00:56:28,594 --> 00:56:29,584
I can help meself.

866
00:56:32,097 --> 00:56:33,087
Hello.

867
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:37,141
They never make these cars big enough,
do they?

868
00:56:38,812 --> 00:56:40,599
Well, are you all settled in?

869
00:56:40,689 --> 00:56:42,772
Right, we can begin. My name is...

870
00:56:42,858 --> 00:56:43,848
Alfie?

871
00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:46,893
When I became an actor,
I didn't see myself like

872
00:56:46,987 --> 00:56:48,899
playing Hamlet or King Lear.

873
00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:50,731
All I wanted

874
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:53,532
was a chance to get a true
Cockney character

875
00:56:53,619 --> 00:56:54,609
on the big screen.

876
00:56:55,662 --> 00:56:56,903
And I got the chance to do it.

877
00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:01,040
<i>There is a little bit of Alfie
in everybody</i>

878
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:03,083
<i>and people saw things in themselves,</i>

879
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:05,833
<i>even if it was something
they didn't like. I...</i>

880
00:57:05,923 --> 00:57:07,585
<i>I found a lot of things in Alfie.</i>

881
00:57:08,175 --> 00:57:10,838
Especially, as I say, I am a bachelor.

882
00:57:11,803 --> 00:57:13,169
How do you want me?

883
00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:15,300
How do I want you?
Well, I've got two positions.

884
00:57:15,474 --> 00:57:18,433
Straight up or sideways,
depending on your nationality.

885
00:57:18,602 --> 00:57:20,559
I tell you what,
I'll have you against the ships.

886
00:57:21,104 --> 00:57:23,562
All right, I've always been
partial to the Navy.

887
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:26,895
Now, you look a real treat there,
you do.

888
00:57:26,985 --> 00:57:28,772
But you see, of course,
you can't play Alfie

889
00:57:28,862 --> 00:57:30,899
and be Alfie at the same time,

890
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:33,402
because playing those parts,
it takes up too much of your time.

891
00:57:33,492 --> 00:57:34,653
You have to go to bed early.

892
00:57:35,118 --> 00:57:37,861
I don't think I went out with one girl
the whole time I was making <i>Alfie.</i>

893
00:57:39,623 --> 00:57:40,784
I did when I was finished.

894
00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:46,077
<i>We used to call girls,
I know it's very male chauvinist,</i>

895
00:57:46,171 --> 00:57:48,003
<i>and I'm sorry, ladies,
I don't do it any more.</i>

896
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:49,297
<i>We used to call girls "birds".</i>

897
00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:53,714
<i>Or in rhyming slang, "Richards",
which is Richard III's, birds.</i>

898
00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:54,794
Coffee, love?

899
00:57:56,014 --> 00:57:58,301
<i>And my flatmate
was very much a ladies' man.</i>

900
00:57:58,767 --> 00:58:00,008
<i>He had all the Richards.</i>

901
00:58:00,268 --> 00:58:01,759
<i>So, our flat became like an airport.</i>

902
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:03,310
<i>The birds came flying through there</i>

903
00:58:03,397 --> 00:58:05,138
<i>and I became a sort of
flight controller,</i>

904
00:58:06,191 --> 00:58:08,103
<i>bringing 'em in
and getting 'em out safely,</i>

905
00:58:08,193 --> 00:58:10,059
<i>and so that no one saw each other
and all that.</i>

906
00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:15,774
<i>I was living with
my then girlfriend, Jane Asher.</i>

907
00:58:16,118 --> 00:58:18,235
<i>Who I made Alfie...
And I met you on the set</i>

908
00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:20,157
<i>cos you used to come
on the set for lunch.</i>

909
00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:22,034
<i>You did</i> Alfie
<i>with her, yeah.</i>

910
00:58:22,124 --> 00:58:25,959
<i>And so I was staying at Jane's
and going out with her.</i>

911
00:58:26,044 --> 00:58:27,034
<i>But I had a piano.</i>

912
00:58:27,129 --> 00:58:28,586
<i>I was living up at the top of the house</i>

913
00:58:28,672 --> 00:58:30,379
<i>and I had a little piano in there.</i>

914
00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:32,548
<i>So, John might write one on his own.</i>

915
00:58:32,634 --> 00:58:34,967
<i>I might write one on my own,
so that started to happen.</i>

916
00:58:35,262 --> 00:58:38,130
<i>But we'd always bring it back to each
other and finish it together.</i>

917
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:43,218
<i>We thought after
following Buddy Holly records</i>

918
00:58:43,437 --> 00:58:46,225
<i>and seeing how they were made
through playing them, you know,</i>

919
00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:48,018
<i>"Oh, maybe we can write this, you know?"</i>

920
00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:51,188
<i>Well, maybe instead of singing
"Going back to Alabam" ',</i>

921
00:58:51,945 --> 00:58:54,028
<i>we can sing something about Liverpool,
you know?</i>

922
00:58:54,698 --> 00:58:57,441
So it was just after we'd learnt how to,
you know...

923
00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:00,277
Oh, you do this, and you do this
and how to make the music,

924
00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:02,828
we thought, "Oh, we'll
write about ourselves," you know?

925
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,408
And of course,
the first efforts were more dumb

926
00:59:06,543 --> 00:59:08,330
or childish than the later efforts.

927
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,502
<i>We'd sit down to write.</i>

928
00:59:10,589 --> 00:59:14,208
<i>And I think we wrote just short of
300 songs together.</i>

929
00:59:14,301 --> 00:59:15,542
<i>Over the period.</i>

930
00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:19,129
<i>And whenever we had a writing session,</i>

931
00:59:19,222 --> 00:59:21,589
<i>always come up with these songs
every time.</i>

932
00:59:21,683 --> 00:59:24,721
<i>We never left a session going,
"We'll finish it tomorrow."</i>

933
00:59:25,395 --> 00:59:27,637
<i>All these songs just came
out of me, you know?</i>

934
00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:30,605
<i>I didn't sit down to think
I'm gonna write about</i>

935
00:59:31,234 --> 00:59:32,224
<i>this, that or the other.</i>

936
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:33,526
<i>They all came out, you know,</i>

937
00:59:33,612 --> 00:59:36,229
<i>like all the best work of anybody's
ever does, you know?</i>

938
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:38,735
<i>No sense of competition
or anything?</i>

939
00:59:38,825 --> 00:59:41,192
<i>Oh, no, there was
a big sense of competition.</i>

940
00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:43,403
<i>- Oh, yeah.
- Really?</i>

941
00:59:43,497 --> 00:59:46,786
<i>- Come on! Young guys, both writers.
- Yeah.</i>

942
00:59:47,209 --> 00:59:49,041
<i>No, it was great.
It was really good for us,</i>

943
00:59:49,127 --> 00:59:50,914
<i>and you know, John would say later,
he'd say,</i>

944
00:59:51,379 --> 00:59:53,371
<i>"Bloody hell!" You know,
he'd hear one of my songs</i>

945
00:59:53,507 --> 00:59:55,590
<i>and go, "Bloody hell,
I've gotta write a better one."</i>

946
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:57,504
<i>- It was like a nuisance.
- Yeah.</i>

947
00:59:57,594 --> 01:00:00,257
<i>And then I'd hear one of his
and go, "Oh, bollocks!"</i>

948
01:00:00,847 --> 01:00:05,217
The taxi driver the other day had some
sheet music of a Mozart thing,

949
01:00:05,685 --> 01:00:07,142
and I said, "What's that?" You know.

950
01:00:07,354 --> 01:00:08,344
And he said, "Oh."

951
01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:10,145
He said,
"Oh, that's the high-class stuff.

952
01:00:10,232 --> 01:00:11,222
"You won't like that."

953
01:00:11,316 --> 01:00:12,898
He said, "No, no, you won't like that."

954
01:00:12,984 --> 01:00:14,600
And I said, "Well, what is it?"
You know.

955
01:00:14,694 --> 01:00:16,185
He said, "Oh, no, you won't like it.

956
01:00:16,321 --> 01:00:17,937
"You know, it's high-class, that.

957
01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:19,238
"It's very high-brow."

958
01:00:19,783 --> 01:00:22,992
And that kind of way,
I always used to think of it.

959
01:00:23,078 --> 01:00:25,821
I used to think, "Well, you know,
that's very clever, all that stuff."

960
01:00:26,248 --> 01:00:28,615
And it isn't, you know.
It's just exactly what's going on

961
01:00:28,708 --> 01:00:29,949
in pop at the moment.

962
01:00:30,043 --> 01:00:32,751
<i>Pop music is the classical music of now.</i>

963
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:34,837
All of a sudden,

964
01:00:34,923 --> 01:00:36,414
there was a bunch of people in London

965
01:00:36,508 --> 01:00:40,548
who were considered the most interesting
and glamorous people on the planet.

966
01:00:41,221 --> 01:00:44,009
And when people became famous
in Britain,

967
01:00:44,099 --> 01:00:45,510
they had one thought in mind.

968
01:00:46,268 --> 01:00:47,258
America.

969
01:00:47,811 --> 01:00:50,144
And they took the party across the pond.

970
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:52,563
And the British invasion
didn't just include bands.

971
01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:56,859
It was writers, designers, artists,
actors like myself.

972
01:01:04,536 --> 01:01:05,617
Here they come!

973
01:02:06,264 --> 01:02:08,472
<i>The people that started
the English invasion,</i>

974
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,808
<i>the effect here in the United States,
phenomenal.</i>

975
01:02:49,182 --> 01:02:53,142
And now, to be Cockney
is right at the top, isn't it?

976
01:02:53,353 --> 01:02:55,140
- Yeah, it helps a little.
- Yeah, yeah.

977
01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:57,096
It's not doing me any harm
in America.

978
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:58,180
<i>I know.</i>

979
01:03:03,738 --> 01:03:05,195
<i>His name is Michael Caine.</i>

980
01:03:05,657 --> 01:03:06,647
<i>Michael Caine.</i>

981
01:03:41,901 --> 01:03:44,439
I don't know, you know,
if you can say that war's no good

982
01:03:44,529 --> 01:03:47,067
and a few people believe you,
then it may be good. I don't know.

983
01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:49,114
<i>You can't say it too much, though,
that's the trouble.</i>

984
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,566
Seems a bit silly
to be in America

985
01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:53,744
and for none of them to mention Vietnam
as if nothing was happening.

986
01:03:55,081 --> 01:03:56,913
<i>And the kids wanna be free, man.</i>

987
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,957
<i>Like, that's where it's at.</i>

988
01:03:59,044 --> 01:04:01,286
<i>Youth is always
an exciting time.</i>

989
01:04:01,379 --> 01:04:04,463
<i>Well, it's certainly
more exciting than it ever was before.</i>

990
01:04:04,883 --> 01:04:07,591
<i>You can do anything,
that makes it exciting.</i>

991
01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:09,088
<i>Everything's constantly changing</i>

992
01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:11,216
<i>and attitudes are constantly changing.</i>

993
01:04:11,306 --> 01:04:12,717
<i>Well, everything is happening.</i>

994
01:04:12,807 --> 01:04:15,140
<i>Everything is happening
all over the world.</i>

995
01:04:18,438 --> 01:04:20,304
Right over there,
the little girl running down,

996
01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:22,139
the famous model
just came here from Europe.

997
01:04:22,233 --> 01:04:23,519
What do you think of her?

998
01:04:23,610 --> 01:04:25,602
- What do I think of her?
- I think she's cute but I...

999
01:04:25,695 --> 01:04:29,359
I think she's cute, except she's...

1000
01:04:29,449 --> 01:04:31,987
<i>I don't know. It'll last a couple of
weeks, like everything else.</i>

1001
01:04:32,077 --> 01:04:33,067
<i>Will it?</i>

1002
01:04:34,496 --> 01:04:36,283
To think that our next generation

1003
01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:38,205
is supposed to be
taking care of this country.

1004
01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:40,367
They don't take no pride
in anything, hardly.

1005
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:43,373
I think we have to find out
who is to blame for it all.

1006
01:04:44,255 --> 01:04:47,293
<i>When they look at me,
and I happen to have long hair</i>

1007
01:04:47,384 --> 01:04:50,047
<i>and wear kinda freaky clothes,
they really hate me.</i>

1008
01:04:50,136 --> 01:04:52,753
<i>You can look
and you see this hatred in their eyes.</i>

1009
01:05:04,484 --> 01:05:06,897
<i>Back home,
all was not as it seemed.</i>

1010
01:05:15,036 --> 01:05:17,403
<i>It became clear
that there was now a campaign</i>

1011
01:05:17,705 --> 01:05:20,948
<i>to bring down those
the establishment were thinking</i>

1012
01:05:21,543 --> 01:05:23,409
<i>were corrupting youth.</i>

1013
01:05:23,503 --> 01:05:25,415
<i>The youth didn't need
much corrupting, actually.</i>

1014
01:05:25,505 --> 01:05:28,543
<i>They were corrupting themselves
all up and down the country,</i>

1015
01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:30,549
<i>in the newfound freedom,</i>

1016
01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:32,129
<i>communicating with music</i>

1017
01:05:32,345 --> 01:05:33,881
<i>and smoking a bit of dope.</i>

1018
01:05:35,306 --> 01:05:37,298
<i>A brain under the influence of marijuana</i>

1019
01:05:37,392 --> 01:05:39,384
<i>distorts the sense of space and time.</i>

1020
01:05:39,894 --> 01:05:43,353
Whether it's pills or LSD or cannabis,

1021
01:05:44,107 --> 01:05:46,690
the use of drugs as
a central part of youth culture

1022
01:05:46,776 --> 01:05:49,610
becomes very important
in the last two or three years.

1023
01:05:49,821 --> 01:05:51,562
I only smoked marijuana once

1024
01:05:51,656 --> 01:05:53,693
and I laughed for five hours.

1025
01:05:55,493 --> 01:05:56,779
I couldn't get a taxi home.

1026
01:05:57,454 --> 01:05:58,444
I had to walk.

1027
01:05:59,706 --> 01:06:01,368
I never smoked marijuana again.

1028
01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:03,365
Honest.

1029
01:06:05,211 --> 01:06:07,498
<i>It was the Mods who started it,
you know.</i>

1030
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:10,206
<i>Purple hearts, amphetamines, speed.</i>

1031
01:06:10,842 --> 01:06:13,676
<i>But there was nothing new in that.
People used to take them in the war</i>

1032
01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:14,835
<i>to stay awake.</i>

1033
01:06:15,263 --> 01:06:17,050
<i>But they used to take
one or two tablets.</i>

1034
01:06:17,849 --> 01:06:19,761
<i>The Mods took them by the jarful.</i>

1035
01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,644
<i>All I really cared about
in those days was being...</i>

1036
01:06:23,897 --> 01:06:26,230
<i>The band being good.
I'd started this band.</i>

1037
01:06:26,483 --> 01:06:28,691
<i>And I couldn't take them.
They used to dry me up.</i>

1038
01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:30,146
<i>- And so I couldn't sing.
- Really?</i>

1039
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:32,523
<i>I thought, "Well, these are
no good for me, I can't sing.</i>

1040
01:06:32,614 --> 01:06:33,821
<i>"There's no point doing this."</i>

1041
01:06:33,907 --> 01:06:34,897
<i>So, I had to be straight.</i>

1042
01:06:36,117 --> 01:06:38,825
<i>We played one gig, it was just so bad.</i>

1043
01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:42,621
<i>The band had been up for three days.</i>

1044
01:06:42,707 --> 01:06:45,040
<i>They'd started to take
more and more pills.</i>

1045
01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:46,833
<i>The songs are getting faster and faster</i>

1046
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,877
<i>so I can't get the words in.</i>

1047
01:06:48,963 --> 01:06:52,252
<i>I mean, oh, my God, the state of us.
Literally, it was so awful</i>

1048
01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:57,128
<i>I came off the stage
in just a terrible temper.</i>

1049
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:03,387
<i>I've been on pills
since I was 15 or...</i>

1050
01:07:03,478 --> 01:07:05,014
<i>no, since I was 17.</i>

1051
01:07:05,563 --> 01:07:07,350
<i>Since I became a musician.</i>

1052
01:07:07,815 --> 01:07:10,307
<i>The only way to survive in Hamburg,
to play eight hours a night,</i>

1053
01:07:10,401 --> 01:07:11,892
<i>was to take pills.</i>

1054
01:07:11,986 --> 01:07:14,103
<i>I've always needed a drug to survive.</i>

1055
01:07:14,572 --> 01:07:16,029
<i>I can't... You know.</i>

1056
01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:18,198
<i>The others, too.
But I always had more, you know.</i>

1057
01:07:18,284 --> 01:07:19,866
<i>I always took more pills</i>

1058
01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:22,195
<i>and more of everything,
cos I'm more crazy.</i>

1059
01:07:22,288 --> 01:07:24,075
<i>Do you rely on drugs
to keep you going?</i>

1060
01:07:24,165 --> 01:07:25,701
No, it just means that,

1061
01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:29,035
you know,
there are certain things which,

1062
01:07:29,128 --> 01:07:32,371
more levels of perception which
are opened up by certain drugs.

1063
01:07:32,465 --> 01:07:33,751
<i>To many youngsters,
the glamour drugs</i>

1064
01:07:33,841 --> 01:07:36,003
<i>are those which produce hallucinations.</i>

1065
01:07:36,803 --> 01:07:39,090
<i>The best known are marijuana and LSD.</i>

1066
01:07:39,722 --> 01:07:42,009
Huxley wrote these two books, he wrote

1067
01:07:42,308 --> 01:07:44,300
<i>Heaven and Hell</i> and <i>Doors of Perception.</i>

1068
01:07:44,936 --> 01:07:49,397
And of the two, people have taken
<i>Heaven and Hell</i> as the symbol,

1069
01:07:49,482 --> 01:07:51,519
and they've taken the wrong one.

1070
01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:56,070
Because the one that...
The really explicit phrase

1071
01:07:56,197 --> 01:07:59,565
is "doors of perception",
and that is what drugs are.

1072
01:07:59,659 --> 01:08:01,150
They are the doors.

1073
01:08:01,244 --> 01:08:02,576
They're not anywhere.

1074
01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:06,406
I mean, you don't go anywhere.
You just see a crack,

1075
01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:07,706
like I'm looking through.

1076
01:08:07,834 --> 01:08:11,168
That the state that we should be in
is perfection.

1077
01:08:11,254 --> 01:08:13,211
And that the reason we're here
is to find it.

1078
01:09:08,645 --> 01:09:11,638
If you haven't heard of LSD, you will.

1079
01:09:11,731 --> 01:09:14,599
They can take it if they want,
we can't prevent them,

1080
01:09:14,692 --> 01:09:16,308
but they're really
fooling with dynamite.

1081
01:09:20,198 --> 01:09:23,066
<i>Giving us a world
we can't handle as it is,</i>

1082
01:09:24,494 --> 01:09:26,360
<i>so we're gonna change it.</i>

1083
01:09:26,454 --> 01:09:28,741
<i>Because they have shaped their world,</i>

1084
01:09:29,624 --> 01:09:33,038
<i>our world, into what it is
with guns and bombs.</i>

1085
01:09:33,127 --> 01:09:38,043
<i>It's obvious to our generation
that their way doesn't work.</i>

1086
01:09:38,132 --> 01:09:40,169
<i>It hasn't worked.
It isn't going to work.</i>

1087
01:09:41,386 --> 01:09:43,878
<i>So, a change has to be made.</i>

1088
01:09:43,971 --> 01:09:47,135
<i>And if somebody has to get
turned upside-down to do it,</i>

1089
01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:49,766
<i>well, then</i>.

1090
01:09:50,770 --> 01:09:53,262
The people who lived
through the LSD experience

1091
01:09:53,356 --> 01:09:56,440
went through a complete
facet of learning, you know.

1092
01:09:57,276 --> 01:09:59,893
And it's just, you know,
it must have been done

1093
01:09:59,987 --> 01:10:02,320
some other way when me father was a kid.

1094
01:10:02,782 --> 01:10:04,398
<i>Maybe they did it by going to war.</i>

1095
01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:07,617
The kids who take LSD
aren't gonna fight your wars,

1096
01:10:07,787 --> 01:10:10,450
middle-class, middle-aged,
whisky-drinking generals.

1097
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:13,248
Uh, they're not going to
join your corporations,

1098
01:10:13,334 --> 01:10:16,827
middle-class, middle-aged,
whisky-drinking corporation presidents.

1099
01:10:58,087 --> 01:11:03,173
They need to come down and sort
these bastards out. Get 'em out!

1100
01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:05,671
Bring them down the canal
and drown them.

1101
01:11:06,262 --> 01:11:08,504
Drown them,
that's what you wanna do with them.

1102
01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:13,513
Communist muck. Get rid of them.

1103
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:44,919
<i>I haven't got their morals,
and they haven't got mine.</i>

1104
01:11:46,677 --> 01:11:48,714
<i>They've got all these rules
for everything.</i>

1105
01:11:48,805 --> 01:11:51,923
Rules of how to live, how to paint,
how to make music.

1106
01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:54,300
And it's just not true any more.

1107
01:11:54,727 --> 01:11:56,218
<i>The government
doesn't exist for us,</i>

1108
01:11:56,521 --> 01:11:57,557
<i>they exist for themselves.</i>

1109
01:11:58,189 --> 01:11:59,930
<i>Sooner or later,
the government is gonna find</i>

1110
01:12:00,024 --> 01:12:02,892
<i>that there's something going on
that they've got no control over at all.</i>

1111
01:12:04,028 --> 01:12:06,395
<i>They haven't been
fucked since Cromwell, man.</i>

1112
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,903
Youth thinks itself wise

1113
01:12:09,992 --> 01:12:13,281
just as drunk men
think themselves sober.

1114
01:12:14,705 --> 01:12:17,413
<i>Youth knows nothing about anything
except on massive clichés.</i>

1115
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:22,328
The permissive society
is considered by some youngsters

1116
01:12:22,463 --> 01:12:24,295
to be trendy and with it.

1117
01:12:24,382 --> 01:12:29,468
Personally, I consider it condones
moral laxity and promiscuity,

1118
01:12:29,971 --> 01:12:32,805
it leads to uncertainty and instability,

1119
01:12:33,182 --> 01:12:35,925
a soggy mind and mental impoverishment

1120
01:12:36,561 --> 01:12:39,099
and contains all the disruptive elements

1121
01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:43,099
which would tear down
the pillars of our society.

1122
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:46,227
It really is about time we realised

1123
01:12:46,404 --> 01:12:51,741
that the fault lies in the fact that
we have created a permissive society.

1124
01:12:52,827 --> 01:12:57,037
Now, the epidemic drug taking
in this country

1125
01:12:57,123 --> 01:13:00,332
is now so extensive that many of you,

1126
01:13:01,419 --> 01:13:03,786
whatever your jobs,
will have come across it.

1127
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:08,878
We must rid the country of this
insidious disease of "don't care".

1128
01:13:15,099 --> 01:13:16,931
<i>And I was the first
to be busted.</i>

1129
01:13:23,691 --> 01:13:25,148
What do you know of this Donovan?

1130
01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:29,190
I've had him on the special
attention list for some time.

1131
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,270
Right.

1132
01:13:30,364 --> 01:13:33,607
<i>That next day, when we were
let out at 4:00 in the morning,</i>

1133
01:13:33,784 --> 01:13:35,696
<i>the phone rang,
and it was George Harrison.</i>

1134
01:13:35,786 --> 01:13:38,779
<i>And he said, "Is everything all right?"</i>

1135
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,578
<i>I said, "Yeah, we're out."</i>

1136
01:13:42,501 --> 01:13:43,662
<i>He said, "What you gonna do?"</i>

1137
01:13:43,753 --> 01:13:46,211
<i>I said, "We're gonna go away
for a while."</i>

1138
01:13:47,048 --> 01:13:50,212
<i>He said, "If you want
£10,000 by 12 noon..."</i>

1139
01:13:50,968 --> 01:13:52,584
<i>I said, "No, I'm OK with the money.</i>

1140
01:13:53,763 --> 01:13:56,096
<i>"We're gonna go to Scotland
until it blows over."</i>

1141
01:13:57,141 --> 01:13:59,884
<i>He said, "It'll never blow over, Don.</i>

1142
01:13:59,977 --> 01:14:01,468
<i>"We'll be next."</i>

1143
01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:03,849
Paul, how often
have you taken LSD?

1144
01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:07,182
About four times.

1145
01:14:08,235 --> 01:14:09,442
And where did you get it from?

1146
01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:12,859
Oh, you know, I mean,
if I was to say where I'd got it from,

1147
01:14:12,949 --> 01:14:14,485
you know, it's illegal and everything.

1148
01:14:14,575 --> 01:14:16,908
It's silly to say that,
so I'd rather not say that.

1149
01:14:17,244 --> 01:14:20,863
Don't you believe that this was a matter
which you should have kept private?

1150
01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:23,582
I mean, you're spreading this now,
at this moment.

1151
01:14:24,210 --> 01:14:26,998
This is going into all the homes,
you know, in Britain.

1152
01:14:28,047 --> 01:14:30,004
And I'd rather it didn't, you know.

1153
01:14:30,091 --> 01:14:32,458
But you're asking me the question.
You want me to be honest.

1154
01:14:32,593 --> 01:14:33,583
I'll be honest, you know?

1155
01:14:34,303 --> 01:14:37,046
But as a public figure,
surely you've got a responsibility

1156
01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:40,849
- to lots and lots of teenagers?
- No, it's you've got the responsibility.

1157
01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:43,552
You've got the responsibility
not to spread this now.

1158
01:14:44,271 --> 01:14:47,435
You know, I'm quite prepared
to keep it as a very personal thing.

1159
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:49,149
If you will, too.

1160
01:14:49,610 --> 01:14:52,353
What I do with things is
I look at examples

1161
01:14:52,905 --> 01:14:53,895
of people who do things.

1162
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:57,734
If I saw somebody
who took drugs who became

1163
01:14:58,327 --> 01:15:02,037
more intelligent, nicer,
earned more money, more handsome,

1164
01:15:02,123 --> 01:15:05,582
a better lover or got
a better physique through it

1165
01:15:05,668 --> 01:15:07,125
and he set a good example,

1166
01:15:07,211 --> 01:15:09,999
I would be the first to take drugs,
and suggest everybody else should.

1167
01:15:10,506 --> 01:15:13,795
But most of the people I know
who've taken drugs over a period of time

1168
01:15:13,884 --> 01:15:16,422
seem to have gone to wrack and ruin
and I don't wanna go there.

1169
01:15:16,554 --> 01:15:19,513
I never wanted to
talk about drugs in public

1170
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:21,806
because I don't want to
influence anybody

1171
01:15:22,852 --> 01:15:23,842
in anything.

1172
01:15:24,395 --> 01:15:26,978
But if you ask me,
I guess I have to say that

1173
01:15:27,064 --> 01:15:29,477
of course I took drugs, like everyone.

1174
01:15:30,609 --> 01:15:32,191
But not because of everyone.

1175
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:43,237
<i>It came from the FBI to MI5 to the...</i>

1176
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:44,320
<i>Really?</i>

1177
01:15:44,415 --> 01:15:48,034
<i>- Yes! It's like one of your films, man.
- It sounds like it!</i>

1178
01:15:55,426 --> 01:15:58,043
<i>You know, we say there were
300 people in the '60s</i>

1179
01:15:58,220 --> 01:16:00,587
<i>and all the people who said
they were at the Redlands bust,</i>

1180
01:16:01,098 --> 01:16:04,262
<i>we would have had to have
a marquee on the lawn, you know.</i>

1181
01:16:04,351 --> 01:16:06,138
<i>It was basically a party</i>

1182
01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:09,638
<i>where good friends got together
to take a bit of LSD.</i>

1183
01:16:16,614 --> 01:16:18,230
<i>That was one of my first trips.</i>

1184
01:16:18,324 --> 01:16:20,782
<i>It was a pretty rough experience,
actually...</i>

1185
01:16:20,868 --> 01:16:22,951
<i>- Yeah.
- ...to have 25 cops walk in.</i>

1186
01:16:23,037 --> 01:16:26,906
<i>- Is that what happened?
- Yeah, and I was rather naughty, too.</i>

1187
01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:29,286
<i>- I'd gone to have a bath.
- Yeah.</i>

1188
01:16:30,669 --> 01:16:33,161
<i>- I was in a fur rug.
- And nothing else?</i>

1189
01:16:33,255 --> 01:16:35,793
<i>And I dropped the fur rug.</i>

1190
01:16:35,966 --> 01:16:38,709
<i>- And gave a flash at the constabulary.
- At the coppers?</i>

1191
01:16:38,969 --> 01:16:41,507
<i>And they were so stunned, you know.</i>

1192
01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:42,758
<i>I was showing off, wasn't I?</i>

1193
01:16:42,932 --> 01:16:45,970
<i>Yeah, obviously. And why not?
You were young, beautiful.</i>

1194
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,723
<i>I was beautiful,
I was naked, I was in a fur rug.</i>

1195
01:16:48,813 --> 01:16:52,056
<i>Hey! And I was naughty and defiant.</i>

1196
01:16:53,901 --> 01:16:56,769
Evidence that an unnamed naked woman

1197
01:16:56,904 --> 01:16:59,487
was sitting on a sofa
with a rug around her

1198
01:16:59,573 --> 01:17:03,863
when police raided Keith Richards' house
at West Wittering

1199
01:17:03,953 --> 01:17:05,319
was given in court today.

1200
01:17:05,412 --> 01:17:06,744
<i>First of all,
they don't like</i>

1201
01:17:06,831 --> 01:17:08,242
<i>young kids with a lot of money,
you know?</i>

1202
01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:09,448
<i>They don't like that anyway.</i>

1203
01:17:09,542 --> 01:17:12,876
<i>But as long as you're sort of cool
and do your, you know,</i>

1204
01:17:13,212 --> 01:17:14,202
<i>and don't...</i>

1205
01:17:16,549 --> 01:17:18,791
<i>bother them, you know.
But we bothered 'em.</i>

1206
01:17:18,884 --> 01:17:20,091
<i>You know, we bothered them</i>

1207
01:17:21,387 --> 01:17:23,970
<i>because of the way we look,
because of the way we act, because...</i>

1208
01:17:24,723 --> 01:17:27,090
<i>And we never showed any
reverence for them whatsoever.</i>

1209
01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:31,266
This is not Golden Gate Park
or Central Park,

1210
01:17:31,647 --> 01:17:33,684
this is Hyde Park in London.

1211
01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:36,399
And these are British hippies

1212
01:17:36,569 --> 01:17:39,186
gathered to protest the heavy sentences

1213
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,987
against two Rolling Stones.

1214
01:17:41,323 --> 01:17:45,363
Mick Jagger, for having four tablets
of Benzedrine in his pocket

1215
01:17:45,744 --> 01:17:48,908
and Keith Richards,
for allowing his premises

1216
01:17:48,998 --> 01:17:51,160
to be used for the smoking of marijuana.

1217
01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:57,121
<i>And then I started getting
poisonous letters,</i>

1218
01:17:58,257 --> 01:18:01,750
<i>basically saying,
"The sooner you die, the better."</i>

1219
01:18:02,970 --> 01:18:05,713
<i>You know, "You are a contamination
on our island's shores."</i>

1220
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,887
<i>And I took all this very much to heart.</i>

1221
01:18:26,911 --> 01:18:29,904
<i>And I thought
I would die and I almost welcomed it.</i>

1222
01:18:29,997 --> 01:18:32,489
<i>But I started to get into hard drugs</i>

1223
01:18:32,583 --> 01:18:33,664
<i>and that's what did it.</i>

1224
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:38,958
<i>There was a feeling
that something special was over.</i>

1225
01:18:40,216 --> 01:18:41,673
We'd pushed for change,

1226
01:18:42,885 --> 01:18:45,218
now change was pushing us.

1227
01:18:46,847 --> 01:18:48,759
Maybe, for some of us,

1228
01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:51,557
the party had gone on too long.

1229
01:18:58,651 --> 01:19:01,143
<i>We'd sort of done
everything we'd wanted to do.</i>

1230
01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:05,276
<i>We were getting a bit fed up of
having to have a group mentality,</i>

1231
01:19:05,658 --> 01:19:07,445
<i>so we were pissing each other off.</i>

1232
01:19:40,276 --> 01:19:42,859
<i>Although it was a shock
when it actually happened,</i>

1233
01:19:43,362 --> 01:19:45,604
<i>nobody was really that surprised,
you know.</i>

1234
01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:47,522
Everybody knows people that...

1235
01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:50,234
You just have that feeling
that they're not gonna be,

1236
01:19:50,369 --> 01:19:53,077
they're not gonna be 70 years old,
ever, you know.

1237
01:19:53,163 --> 01:19:55,405
Not everybody makes it, you know.

1238
01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:03,538
<i>Looking back, what strikes
me most about the '60s</i>

1239
01:20:03,632 --> 01:20:05,373
<i>is that it was a time,</i>

1240
01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:06,924
<i>maybe the first time,</i>

1241
01:20:07,011 --> 01:20:09,378
<i>when the future was shaped
by young people.</i>

1242
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:13,514
<i>We were utterly convinced that it was
our time.</i>

1243
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,216
<i>The best time of our lives.</i>

1244
01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:20,313
<i>Youth is not a time of life,</i>

1245
01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:21,856
<i>it's a state of mind.</i>

1246
01:20:38,625 --> 01:20:41,618
So, they, whoever they are,
don't stand a chance,

1247
01:20:41,712 --> 01:20:43,078
because they can't beat love.

1248
01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:02,180
Never look back in anger,
always look forward in hope.

1249
01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:07,352
And never, ever, ever dream small.